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Post by jaq515 on Sept 22, 2024 17:43:12 GMT -5
ex wife not sure she'd be that interested riddling anymore Wasn’t she a’riddlin a few weeks ago on here? Or was that an imposter I.would guess he answer to that is that its not Gems ex wife Lou used to be very active on twitter and interacted with fans back in day doubt, and think disappeared so doubt she'd be needing to post riddles on here to for her ex husbands ex band but you never know I guess...
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Post by surrealneil on Sept 22, 2024 21:19:17 GMT -5
The backlash to Liam’s voice online has been totally over the top! It wasn’t even that bad. It was rough but man we’ve heard much much worse. But you have to remember most people watching it aren't diehard Oasis fans that have been following and watching anything and everything Oasis related over the years. Their main point of reference for the songs and his singing is probably the records and then they see him on telly mostly shouting down the mic, unable to hit notes in a chorus etc etc.. Of course they're gonna think it sounds bad. Objectively, for the casual viewer, it is pretty bad to hear a singer unable to hit notes in a song and whatnot.
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Post by thespiderandthefly on Sept 22, 2024 21:45:35 GMT -5
Alllllright then….About time we go back to debating drummers, yeah?
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Post by neila83 on Sept 22, 2024 21:50:09 GMT -5
The backlash to Liam’s voice online has been totally over the top! It wasn’t even that bad. It was rough but man we’ve heard much much worse. But you have to remember most people watching it aren't diehard Oasis fans that have been following and watching anything and everything Oasis related over the years. Their main point of reference for the songs and his singing is probably the records and then they see him on telly mostly shouting down the mic, unable to hit notes in a chorus etc etc.. Of course they're gonna think it sounds bad. Objectively, for the casual viewer, it is pretty bad to hear a singer unable to hit notes in a song and whatnot. Yeh I think we have to remember it's different for us because we've seen how he's changed over the years, seen the highs and lows, and adjusted our expectations as to what is 'good'. But we should compare it to how we feel when we see an artist we don't follow closely who sounds very very different to what we've heard on record or even live gigs years ago. e.g. the Elton John 'I'm dill danding' COVID debacle. I'm not saying Liam is that bad though certainly has been. I'm sure most here pass comment if they see a band on TV and they soind different to what they expected, so we have to expect the same when people see Liam, especially with all the scrutiny right now. And he needs to be prepared for this. We can only hope it is a wake up call he won't get away with anything less than his best.
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Post by Manualex on Sept 22, 2024 22:30:41 GMT -5
Damn this is crazy
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Post by His Royal Noelness on Sept 22, 2024 23:56:52 GMT -5
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Post by Marissa on Sept 23, 2024 0:13:34 GMT -5
This is also par for the course with Liam, he is constantly having sound issues at his gigs. At least Noel will sort that for Oasis Noticed this as well, and he doesn't respond well to it. It clearly frustrates him and he walked off stage twice out of the 3 gigs I've seen of his because of it lol. He apparently lost his voice at Lollapalooza because he had bad sound the whole night previously at the pre-show he played. So not surprised he was shouting if he couldn't hear himself, that's how he responds to a bad mix
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Post by dr_robert on Sept 23, 2024 0:20:49 GMT -5
And after all…will this reunion be permanent? I've been wondering for a long time.
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Post by ChampagneHypernova on Sept 23, 2024 1:44:26 GMT -5
This is also par for the course with Liam, he is constantly having sound issues at his gigs. At least Noel will sort that for Oasis Noticed this as well, and he doesn't respond well to it. It clearly frustrates him and he walked off stage twice out of the 3 gigs I've seen of his because of it lol. He apparently lost his voice at Lollapalooza because he had bad sound the whole night previously at the pre-show he played. So not surprised he was shouting if he couldn't hear himself, that's how he responds to a bad mix I wonder if he does sound checks these days or not. In Oasis he didn't.
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Post by mimmihopps on Sept 23, 2024 2:14:35 GMT -5
Noticed this as well, and he doesn't respond well to it. It clearly frustrates him and he walked off stage twice out of the 3 gigs I've seen of his because of it lol. He apparently lost his voice at Lollapalooza because he had bad sound the whole night previously at the pre-show he played. So not surprised he was shouting if he couldn't hear himself, that's how he responds to a bad mix I wonder if he does sound checks these days or not. In Oasis he didn't. Also his Beady Eyes years and solo years too.
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Post by thestylecouncil on Sept 23, 2024 2:27:24 GMT -5
I wonder if he does sound checks these days or not. In Oasis he didn't. Also his Beady Eyes years and solo years too. I literally heard Liam sing Flick of the Finger at a soundcheck before their concert in Hamburg
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Post by psj3809 on Sept 23, 2024 2:27:53 GMT -5
Well I'm back from London and my bloody £250 shit travel lodge !
Love boxing but for whatever reason never seen it live, so weird without commentators !
Liam i was so looking forward to, I'm a huge fan BUT the sound was crap. Obviously it was set up for the boxing not the music so its not like he had a huge wall of speakers or that, it sounded like someone was singing far corner of the stadium and you kinda could hear it but the quality was crap. The people near me didnt enjoy it at all which was weird to see, but after every song there was tons of applause. The syncing was bad so you would look at the screens and it really didnt tally up with the words.
Not Liams fault, from what i've seen on TV later he sounded great, but being there at the stadium (I wasnt in the nosebleed seats) the sound was awful
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Post by andymorris on Sept 23, 2024 2:28:54 GMT -5
Singers dont really need to do soundchecks though, its just a level thing, low or high.
completely different for a drummer or a guitarist. Especially a guitarist, who needs to adapt many many settings to the venue PA.
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Post by oasisserbia on Sept 23, 2024 3:01:51 GMT -5
Liam doesn't know how to sing. It's been like that for 25 years. The improvement over the last few years has been minimal and essentially unnoticeable.
Liam doesn't have a problem with big gigs broadcasted on TV and he doesn't sound worse in those situations - it's just that during those gigs, he is exposed, all the focus is on him, it's not 100% his audience and they aren't loud enough to mask his voice.
The good thing is that when it comes to Oasis gigs, the atmosphere in the crowd will be wild, which was always the point. You'll hear people around you shouting, you'll hear your own voice... no one comes to an Oasis concert to sit down and carefully listen to every note.
Oasis live shows have always been closer to a rave than to a Pink Floyd concert. Just like it doesn't make much sense to watch a rave on YouTube and comment on it - you should be there to understand it.
On the other hand, this doesn't mean Liam couldn't be better. He simply lacks the feel and style for singing - all he knows is how to shout and he's obviously too stubborn to take advice from someone else.
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Post by tomlivesforever on Sept 23, 2024 3:12:13 GMT -5
Liam doesn't know how to sing. It's been like that for 25 years. The improvement over the last few years has been minimal and essentially unnoticeable. I don't think that's true. 2006, 2008-9, Ibiza Rocks. There was an obvious improvement from 2017 onwards.
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Post by oasisserbia on Sept 23, 2024 3:14:10 GMT -5
Yeah but it's still the same shit.
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Post by tomlivesforever on Sept 23, 2024 3:16:34 GMT -5
Yeah but it's still the same shit. It's not. The chance of the him in those years taking on Headshrinker, Rockin Chair, Roll It Over to name a few, would have been zero.
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Post by chamu on Sept 23, 2024 3:19:33 GMT -5
Last Oasis Pro-shot
Last Liam Pro-shot
each one comes to his own conclusion.
After 15 years and he´s sounding better. If you were getting excited about an oasis reunion and after this boxing show you are critizing Liam, sorry but you´re: a/not a fan b/you don´t know what are you talking about or c/ you´re a hater
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Post by tomlivesforever on Sept 23, 2024 3:22:06 GMT -5
Last Oasis Pro-shot Last Liam Pro-shot each one comes to his own conclusion. After 15 years and he´s sounding better. If you were getting excited about an oasis reunion and after this boxing show you are critizing Liam, sorry but you´re: a/not a fan b/you don´t know what are you talking about or c/ you´re a hater Exactly. It's not really debatable.
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Post by thegear on Sept 23, 2024 3:26:22 GMT -5
Liam doesn't know how to sing. It's been like that for 25 years. The improvement over the last few years has been minimal and essentially unnoticeable. Liam doesn't have a problem with big gigs broadcasted on TV and he doesn't sound worse in those situations - it's just that during those gigs, he is exposed, all the focus is on him, it's not 100% his audience and they aren't loud enough to mask his voice. The good thing is that when it comes to Oasis gigs, the atmosphere in the crowd will be wild, which was always the point. You'll hear people around you shouting, you'll hear your own voice... no one comes to an Oasis concert to sit down and carefully listen to every note. Oasis live shows have always been closer to a rave than to a Pink Floyd concert. Just like it doesn't make much sense to watch a rave on YouTube and comment on it - you should be there to understand it. On the other hand, this doesn't mean Liam couldn't be better. He simply lacks the feel and style for singing - all he knows is how to shout and he's obviously too stubborn to take advice from someone else. Yes agree with most of that however the fact is Liam is known as the singer of Oasis and has been known to do more than shout, historically. What I think you’re alluding to is he is not a trained singer and so he could not be expected to maintain ‘his style’ forever with the same consistency. Even as late as 2001 when there were moments of struggle but mostly good live performances at least his singing was melodic. A lot of what people are frustrated by in this performance is his ability to differentiate the notes was poor, in particular during verses of Rock and roll star. It by no means the worse we have seen though, supersonic is actually really good for the most part. I really hope he can now has some time to rest. Would love to understand from a management perspective why they agreed to this so late in the tour, perhaps just simply money. In the context of the recent reunion it doesn’t totally make sense but perhaps booked last year.
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Post by surrealneil on Sept 23, 2024 3:33:17 GMT -5
Well I'm back from London and my bloody £250 shit travel lodge ! Love boxing but for whatever reason never seen it live, so weird without commentators ! Liam i was so looking forward to, I'm a huge fan BUT the sound was crap. Obviously it was set up for the boxing not the music so its not like he had a huge wall of speakers or that, it sounded like someone was singing far corner of the stadium and you kinda could hear it but the quality was crap. The people near me didnt enjoy it at all which was weird to see, but after every song there was tons of applause. The syncing was bad so you would look at the screens and it really didnt tally up with the words. Not Liams fault, from what i've seen on TV later he sounded great, but being there at the stadium (I wasnt in the nosebleed seats) the sound was awful In fairness, people not enjoying it is normal, most people are there to watching boxing. Im a massive boxing fan, but I'm not a fan of music at the events. A boxing event is a long old night if you watch the undercard like I do. It's often a 5 or 6 hour long event before you even get to the headline fight. People just wanna see the main fight by this point and not interested in seeing someome perform. Eminem was performing at one last month and the response was flat because people were just waiting for him to finish to get on with the fight. I'm sure it'd be the same the other way around. Imagine going to see Oasis next year and their entrance is delayed 20 minutes for a boxing match or something.
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Post by surrealneil on Sept 23, 2024 3:38:26 GMT -5
Liam doesn't know how to sing. It's been like that for 25 years. The improvement over the last few years has been minimal and essentially unnoticeable. Liam doesn't have a problem with big gigs broadcasted on TV and he doesn't sound worse in those situations - it's just that during those gigs, he is exposed, all the focus is on him, it's not 100% his audience and they aren't loud enough to mask his voice. The good thing is that when it comes to Oasis gigs, the atmosphere in the crowd will be wild, which was always the point. You'll hear people around you shouting, you'll hear your own voice... no one comes to an Oasis concert to sit down and carefully listen to every note. Oasis live shows have always been closer to a rave than to a Pink Floyd concert. Just like it doesn't make much sense to watch a rave on YouTube and comment on it - you should be there to understand it. On the other hand, this doesn't mean Liam couldn't be better. He simply lacks the feel and style for singing - all he knows is how to shout and he's obviously too stubborn to take advice from someone else. Yes agree with most of that however the fact is Liam is known as the singer of Oasis and has been known to do more than shout, historically. What I think you’re alluding to is he is not a trained singer and so he could not be expected to maintain ‘his style’ forever with the same consistency. Even as late as 2001 when there were moments of struggle but mostly good live performances at least his singing was melodic. A lot of what people are frustrated by in this performance is his ability to differentiate the notes was poor, in particular during verses of Rock and roll star. It by no means the worse we have seen though, supersonic is actually really good for the most part. I really hope he can now has some time to rest. Would love to understand from a management perspective why they agreed to this so late in the tour, perhaps just simply money. In the context of the recent reunion it doesn’t totally make sense but perhaps booked last year. Well it can't have been booked last year, this fight wasn't even made until about 3 or 4 months ago. The Saudi's offered big Saudi money to him to perform 3 songs, that's all it comes down to, just like they did with Emimem last month. They will have got some serious dough for very little work.
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Post by desmondfcb on Sept 23, 2024 4:40:24 GMT -5
Liam doesn't know how to sing. It's been like that for 25 years. The improvement over the last few years has been minimal and essentially unnoticeable. On the other hand, this doesn't mean Liam couldn't be better. He simply lacks the feel and style for singing - all he knows is how to shout and he's obviously too stubborn to take advice from someone else. what are you talking about?
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Post by halftheworldaway91 on Sept 23, 2024 4:54:20 GMT -5
“Liam doesn’t know how to sing”
He knows how to sing, he just chooses to shout instead!
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Post by andymorris on Sept 23, 2024 4:57:42 GMT -5
Liam knows how to sing and he could be a great "singer" live (he is in his own way, but not in the traditional sense). To me he shouts because of a lack of confidence even though he tries to hide it. He comes from a background where being agressive projects confidence. So he's doing the same with the singing.
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