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Post by cloudburster on Aug 30, 2024 17:41:29 GMT -5
Be truthful, did anyone think it would be this big? I was too young to experience the 90s and have no reference point. I've been staggered to the point expectations have lowered to 'miracle' if I got a ticket tomorrow morning. Even this forum, jeez, a month ago it was dead. Given the worldwide attention this got, it's a mixture of pride and bemusement that something that never strayed from the minds of all us dedicated posters for 15 years is international news. As I said earlier in the thread (I think), these 15 years have done them good. I was too young in 2009 but the way it was described by those who experienced it, they looked like one of those past their prime dinosaur bands who go on the road to play the hits and no one wants to hear the new tunes (although, to be fair they were still getting top 10 singles), plus it felt miserable for the actual members. The absence has elevated them to classic status, but at the same time a new generation has come through and whatever you may think about their solo careers they've both kept a dignified, serious approach to producing music and going on the road to play it So the energy's still there, there's excitement from the people and those first two albums have now become staples, plus there's still a void when it comes to rock bands, the new ones just don't generate the same kind of movement in terms of cultural influence, in a way you could say Oasis were the last, although the likes of Arctic Monkeys or even Muse came close at some point Coldplay obviously get the numbers but there's a different feel to them I mean, when you get Taylor Swift fans fearing for her records you're onto something... It's so good for your generation. A 19 year old lad told me about the Reunion in the pub last week and i didn't believe him, but he was buzzing. There's a whole load of kids who want to hear them now. They've achieved legendary status.
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Post by jaq515 on Aug 30, 2024 17:45:32 GMT -5
are you gonna try for tickets? it is insane times and really is such a great feeling. I actually wasn't, I saw them plenty and it will be great for those that haven't seen them before. However, my 18 year old step daughter loves them and really wants us to go. So I'm going to have a go for the cheap seats 😂 thats more like it!!
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Post by glider on Aug 30, 2024 17:49:41 GMT -5
Be truthful, did anyone think it would be this big? I was too young to experience the 90s and have no reference point. I've been staggered to the point expectations have lowered to 'miracle' if I got a ticket tomorrow morning. Even this forum, jeez, a month ago it was dead. Given the worldwide attention this got, it's a mixture of pride and bemusement that something that never strayed from the minds of all us dedicated posters for 15 years is international news. The night is always darkest before the dawn.
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Post by themanwholivesinhell on Aug 30, 2024 17:51:59 GMT -5
As I said earlier in the thread (I think), these 15 years have done them good. I was too young in 2009 but the way it was described by those who experienced it, they looked like one of those past their prime dinosaur bands who go on the road to play the hits and no one wants to hear the new tunes (although, to be fair they were still getting top 10 singles), plus it felt miserable for the actual members. The absence has elevated them to classic status, but at the same time a new generation has come through and whatever you may think about their solo careers they've both kept a dignified, serious approach to producing music and going on the road to play it So the energy's still there, there's excitement from the people and those first two albums have now become staples, plus there's still a void when it comes to rock bands, the new ones just don't generate the same kind of movement in terms of cultural influence, in a way you could say Oasis were the last, although the likes of Arctic Monkeys or even Muse came close at some point Coldplay obviously get the numbers but there's a different feel to them I mean, when you get Taylor Swift fans fearing for her records you're onto something... It's so good for your generation. A 19 year old lad told me about the Reunion in the pub last week and i didn't believe him, but he was buzzing. There's a whole load of kids who want to hear them now. They've achieved legendary status. I was only just too young to see them first time round (b.1996), so while I was a childhood fan back in the 2000s, I dont quite class as an “old school fan”. Hence, Im totally fine with younger people wanting this so much.
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Post by defmaybe00 on Aug 30, 2024 17:52:04 GMT -5
As I said earlier in the thread (I think), these 15 years have done them good. I was too young in 2009 but the way it was described by those who experienced it, they looked like one of those past their prime dinosaur bands who go on the road to play the hits and no one wants to hear the new tunes (although, to be fair they were still getting top 10 singles), plus it felt miserable for the actual members. The absence has elevated them to classic status, but at the same time a new generation has come through and whatever you may think about their solo careers they've both kept a dignified, serious approach to producing music and going on the road to play it So the energy's still there, there's excitement from the people and those first two albums have now become staples, plus there's still a void when it comes to rock bands, the new ones just don't generate the same kind of movement in terms of cultural influence, in a way you could say Oasis were the last, although the likes of Arctic Monkeys or even Muse came close at some point Coldplay obviously get the numbers but there's a different feel to them I mean, when you get Taylor Swift fans fearing for her records you're onto something... It's so good for your generation. A 19 year old lad told me about the Reunion in the pub last week and i didn't believe him, but he was buzzing. There's a whole load of kids who want to hear them now. They've achieved legendary status. I was never obsessed about a reunion, in the sense that I was quite at peace with the idea that it was a closed chapter and I thought they had every right to go in another direction if that's what they wanted, then I'm also a fan of Noel's solo career so it was all good for me But now it's happening the idea of seeing them together and hearing those songs as they were meant to be played is so incredibly exciting, even more so because I never took it for granted I'm sure every fan thinks this of their favourite band, but I always felt Oasis in particular were about shared feeling and a communal experience, so to be able to actually live it, even though it's not the 90s anymore and it's gonna be different, is incredible And it's so great that it's not just going to be a nostalgia fest, but so many young people are into it now
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Post by cloudburster on Aug 30, 2024 18:02:58 GMT -5
It's so good for your generation. A 19 year old lad told me about the Reunion in the pub last week and i didn't believe him, but he was buzzing. There's a whole load of kids who want to hear them now. They've achieved legendary status. I was never obsessed about a reunion, in the sense that I was quite at peace with the idea that it was a closed chapter and I thought they had every right to go in another direction if that's what they wanted, then I'm also a fan of Noel's solo career so it was all good for me But now it's happening the idea of seeing them together and hearing those songs as they were meant to be played is so incredibly exciting, even more so because I never took it for granted I'm sure every fan thinks this of their favourite band, but I always felt Oasis in particular were about shared feeling and a communal experience, so to be able to actually live it, even though it's not the 90s anymore and it's gonna be different, is incredible And it's so great that it's not just going to be a nostalgia fest, but so many young people are into it now Yeah I caught them 3 times on the DOYS tour (became a fan in 2005) and when they broke up I thought "at least I got to see them before they were gone for good" Now there's a whole load of young'uns who missed that last tour who now get a chance. A lot will have been at Liam's gigs but there's a different vibe in the air when you see Oasis opposed to Noel or Liam's solo stuff.
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Post by tomlivesforever on Aug 30, 2024 18:03:09 GMT -5
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Post by matt on Aug 30, 2024 18:18:30 GMT -5
Be truthful, did anyone think it would be this big? I was too young to experience the 90s and have no reference point. I've been staggered to the point expectations have lowered to 'miracle' if I got a ticket tomorrow morning. Even this forum, jeez, a month ago it was dead. Given the worldwide attention this got, it's a mixture of pride and bemusement that something that never strayed from the minds of all us dedicated posters for 15 years is international news. As I said earlier in the thread (I think), these 15 years have done them good. I was too young in 2009 but the way it was described by those who experienced it, they looked like one of those past their prime dinosaur bands who go on the road to play the hits and no one wants to hear the new tunes (although, to be fair they were still getting top 10 singles), plus it felt miserable for the actual members. The absence has elevated them to classic status, but at the same time a new generation has come through and whatever you may think about their solo careers they've both kept a dignified, serious approach to producing music and going on the road to play it So the energy's still there, there's excitement from the people and those first two albums have now become staples, plus there's still a void when it comes to rock bands, the new ones just don't generate the same kind of movement in terms of cultural influence, in a way you could say Oasis were the last, although the likes of Arctic Monkeys or even Muse came close at some point Coldplay obviously get the numbers but there's a different feel to them I mean, when you get Taylor Swift fans fearing for her records you're onto something... You mention top ten singles, and it made me realise that they were still a contemporary band back then (albeit one past the glory days). With the passing of all that time, they've evolved into a 'classic band'. It's also incredible to think that the entirety of Oasis career (in the public eye starting with Definitely Maybe) fits almost exactly in the timespan of their split. August '94 to August '09. August '09 to August '24. The Oasis career feels like a lifetime, the split does not.
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Post by cloudburster on Aug 30, 2024 18:22:28 GMT -5
As I said earlier in the thread (I think), these 15 years have done them good. I was too young in 2009 but the way it was described by those who experienced it, they looked like one of those past their prime dinosaur bands who go on the road to play the hits and no one wants to hear the new tunes (although, to be fair they were still getting top 10 singles), plus it felt miserable for the actual members. The absence has elevated them to classic status, but at the same time a new generation has come through and whatever you may think about their solo careers they've both kept a dignified, serious approach to producing music and going on the road to play it So the energy's still there, there's excitement from the people and those first two albums have now become staples, plus there's still a void when it comes to rock bands, the new ones just don't generate the same kind of movement in terms of cultural influence, in a way you could say Oasis were the last, although the likes of Arctic Monkeys or even Muse came close at some point Coldplay obviously get the numbers but there's a different feel to them I mean, when you get Taylor Swift fans fearing for her records you're onto something... You mention top ten singles, and it made me realise that they were still a contemporary band back then (albeit one past the glory days). With the passing of all that time, they've evolved into a 'classic band'. It's also incredible to think that the entirety of Oasis career (in the public eye starting with Definitely Maybe) fits almost exactly in the timespan of their split. August '94 to August '09. August '09 to August '24. The Oasis career feels like a lifetime, the split does not. Here's to another period of August '24-'44?
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Post by themanwholivesinhell on Aug 30, 2024 18:23:21 GMT -5
Be truthful, did anyone think it would be this big? I was too young to experience the 90s and have no reference point. I've been staggered to the point expectations have lowered to 'miracle' if I got a ticket tomorrow morning. Even this forum, jeez, a month ago it was dead. Given the worldwide attention this got, it's a mixture of pride and bemusement that something that never strayed from the minds of all us dedicated posters for 15 years is international news. To be truthful, I always thought that by reuniting it would be pretty huge live. I thought the demand would immediately put them back on the A-list; they’ve been big enough, Liam especially with things like Knebworth 22 and the DM Tour, to slot right back in. I maybe didn’t expect the old catalog to see such a surge in popularity. Maybe the first 2 albums and Wonderwall denting the Top 40, but not this. I won’t lie they did pick a good time, with the reissue having already generated some interest in advance. But they still wouldnt have generated this hype if they weren’t truly in demand. The boys are back.
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Post by jeffrey on Aug 30, 2024 18:35:56 GMT -5
Be truthful, did anyone think it would be this big? I was too young to experience the 90s and have no reference point. I've been staggered to the point expectations have lowered to 'miracle' if I got a ticket tomorrow morning. Even this forum, jeez, a month ago it was dead. Given the worldwide attention this got, it's a mixture of pride and bemusement that something that never strayed from the minds of all us dedicated posters for 15 years is international news. Excellent post. I agree. The scope of worldwide interest has boggled my mind, to be honest; more so, I feel like the current recognition in the U.S. defies logic. The mainstream and social media coverage/hysteria has made it seem like Oasis were/are the biggest band since The Beatles.
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Post by cloudburster on Aug 30, 2024 18:36:21 GMT -5
Be truthful, did anyone think it would be this big? I was too young to experience the 90s and have no reference point. I've been staggered to the point expectations have lowered to 'miracle' if I got a ticket tomorrow morning. Even this forum, jeez, a month ago it was dead. Given the worldwide attention this got, it's a mixture of pride and bemusement that something that never strayed from the minds of all us dedicated posters for 15 years is international news. To be truthful, I always thought that by reuniting it would be pretty huge live. I thought the demand would immediately put them back on the A-list; they’ve been big enough, Liam especially with things like Knebworth 22 and the DM Tour, to slot right back in. I maybe didn’t expect the old catalog to see such a surge in popularity. Maybe the first 2 albums and Wonderwall denting the Top 40, but not this. I won’t lie they did pick a good time, with the reissue having already generated some interest in advance. But they still wouldnt have generated this hype if they weren’t truly in demand. The boys are back. I Listen to LBC all day at work and to hear it in the hourly headlines all week amongst the political stuff is surreal. "So yeah Keir Starmer is doing this, also Oasis".. James O'brien and Tom Swarbrick dedicating parts of their phone ins to the Oasis reunion is madness. Someone made a point that Oasis broke up in 2009 when Labour were in government and we got 14 years of the Tories. Labour come back in and we get an Oasis reunion.
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Aug 30, 2024 18:55:02 GMT -5
Shows that the Rock N Roll Hall of Fame is a complete sham.
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Post by marqueemoon on Aug 30, 2024 18:57:25 GMT -5
When I got into Oasis during the DBTT era that was considered the comeback. Brilliant time to be a new fan but has absolutely nothing on this. I knew the UK would go nuts but the US media picking up on it is crazy. Stadium gigs in the states will absolutely cement them as massive here too.
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Post by matt on Aug 30, 2024 19:03:44 GMT -5
Shows that the Rock N Roll Hall of Fame is a complete sham. The Rock n Roll Hall of Fame is one big joke. Basically that arsehole Jann Wenner from Rolling Stone, and a few other nobodies, who are self-appointed gatekeepers of music dictating what is and what isn't 'legendary'. It basically boils down to what appeals to narrow minded American boomers. I can't believe its still a thing. The fact that shite like Bon Jovi got inducted says it all, while Oasis and The Smiths aren't anywhere near it. Tasteless and tacky in the extreme.
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Post by vespa on Aug 30, 2024 19:31:34 GMT -5
They are the biggest hyped band since the Beatles…
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Post by matt on Aug 30, 2024 19:31:48 GMT -5
To be truthful, I always thought that by reuniting it would be pretty huge live. I thought the demand would immediately put them back on the A-list; they’ve been big enough, Liam especially with things like Knebworth 22 and the DM Tour, to slot right back in. I maybe didn’t expect the old catalog to see such a surge in popularity. Maybe the first 2 albums and Wonderwall denting the Top 40, but not this. I won’t lie they did pick a good time, with the reissue having already generated some interest in advance. But they still wouldnt have generated this hype if they weren’t truly in demand. The boys are back. I Listen to LBC all day at work and to hear it in the hourly headlines all week amongst the political stuff is surreal. "So yeah Keir Starmer is doing this, also Oasis".. James O'brien and Tom Swarbrick dedicating parts of their phone ins to the Oasis reunion is madness. Someone made a point that Oasis broke up in 2009 when Labour were in government and we got 14 years of the Tories. Labour come back in and we get an Oasis reunion.Because Oasis were associated with New Labour, there's this thought from social commentators that their popularity stemmed from optimism of a new government. Yet everyone fails to realise their best albums came during the Tory administration. So it discredits the idea that their music was a mere side effect to over-inflated optimism. It's such a cliche, and I'm surprised so many journalists still fall into that trap. Much like dunces like Simon Price who think Oasis presaged nationalism and Brexit. If that's the case, why are so many Gen Z youngsters jumping on board, those who know nothing of the 90s and those who are hardly catalysts for far-right ideology? Heck, even I only got into them as an angst ridden teenager at the start of a horrific recession, hardly an optimistic time... So for all the accolades the soap opera between Noel and Liam being analysed, and the 'intellectual social commentaries' on the band, I don't know why writers fail to mention that the simplest answer to all this is, as Noel says in Wibbling Rivalry, 'MUSIC! MUSIC! MUSIC!' The hints of social commentary in Definitely Maybe are just window dressing to an already great album, because it boils down to life affirming sentiments aligned with top class melodies that give it conviction. It's extroverted showmanship by Liam from an introverted soul in Noel. It's euphoric, it's also melancholic. The music treads a line perfectly between the two qualities, often in the same song, same melody and same lyric. No other act on earth comes close to so perfectly balancing euphoria and melancholy. It's why their optimism and happiness is not the forced theatrical fantasy of most acts (hello Queen, latter Coldplay, most popstars) because the melancholy gives it a grounding in reality. It recognises that reality but makes you believe in better things. It's not art, it's not intellectual, it's sincerely emotional. It's a primal thing, and tapping into that and bottling it up in a simple song is genius. No wonder they're still huge.
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Post by Sadie on Aug 30, 2024 19:36:10 GMT -5
I Listen to LBC all day at work and to hear it in the hourly headlines all week amongst the political stuff is surreal. "So yeah Keir Starmer is doing this, also Oasis".. James O'brien and Tom Swarbrick dedicating parts of their phone ins to the Oasis reunion is madness. Someone made a point that Oasis broke up in 2009 when Labour were in government and we got 14 years of the Tories. Labour come back in and we get an Oasis reunion.Because Oasis were associated with New Labour, there's this thought from social commentators that their popularity stemmed from optimism of a new government. Yet everyone fails to realise their best albums came during the Tory administration. So it discredits the idea that their music was a mere side effect to over-inflated optimism. It's such a cliche, and I'm surprised so many journalists still fall into that trap. Much like dunces like Simon Price who think Oasis presaged nationalism and Brexit. If that's the case, why are so many Gen Z youngsters jumping on board, those who know nothing of the 90s and those who are hardly catalysts for far-right ideology? Heck, even I only got into them as an angst ridden teenager at the start of a horrific recession, hardly an optimistic time... So for all the accolades the soap opera between Noel and Liam being analysed, and the 'intellectual social commentaries' on the band, I don't know why writers fail to mention that the simplest answer to all this is, as Noel says in Wibbling Rivalry, 'MUSIC! MUSIC! MUSIC!' The hints of social commentary in Definitely Maybe are just window dressing to an already great album, because it boils down to life affirming sentiments aligned with top class melodies that give it conviction. It's extroverted showmanship by Liam from an introverted soul in Noel. It's euphoric, it's also melancholic. The music treads a line perfectly between the two qualities, often in the same song, same melody and same lyric. No other act on earth comes close to so perfectly balancing euphoria and melancholy. It's why their optimism and happiness is not the forced theatrical fantasy of most acts (hello Queen, latter Coldplay) because the melancholy gives it a grounding in reality. It recognises that reality but makes you believe in better things. It's not art, it's not intellectual, it's sincerely emotional. It's a primal thing, and tapping into that and bottling it up in a simple song is genius. You have such an incredible way with words
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Post by riverman on Aug 30, 2024 20:32:15 GMT -5
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Post by thespiderandthefly on Aug 30, 2024 21:01:23 GMT -5
That account has breaking news about Liam being abducted by aliens. True story of course, but how credible can information be from them?
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Post by Sadie on Aug 30, 2024 21:28:14 GMT -5
That account has breaking news about Liam being abducted by aliens. True story of course, but how credible can information be from them? They've got a lot right recently tbf!
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Post by psj3809 on Aug 31, 2024 0:36:16 GMT -5
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Post by morning_rain on Aug 31, 2024 1:16:08 GMT -5
Beautiful x I love that they’re both wearing black, I only wear black; despite having many colorful clothes. OCD, it’s a problem…. God bless. I guess you don't have a cat.
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Post by oasisglory on Aug 31, 2024 1:49:44 GMT -5
I Listen to LBC all day at work and to hear it in the hourly headlines all week amongst the political stuff is surreal. "So yeah Keir Starmer is doing this, also Oasis".. James O'brien and Tom Swarbrick dedicating parts of their phone ins to the Oasis reunion is madness. Someone made a point that Oasis broke up in 2009 when Labour were in government and we got 14 years of the Tories. Labour come back in and we get an Oasis reunion.Because Oasis were associated with New Labour, there's this thought from social commentators that their popularity stemmed from optimism of a new government. Yet everyone fails to realise their best albums came during the Tory administration. So it discredits the idea that their music was a mere side effect to over-inflated optimism. It's such a cliche, and I'm surprised so many journalists still fall into that trap. Much like dunces like Simon Price who think Oasis presaged nationalism and Brexit. If that's the case, why are so many Gen Z youngsters jumping on board, those who know nothing of the 90s and those who are hardly catalysts for far-right ideology? Heck, even I only got into them as an angst ridden teenager at the start of a horrific recession, hardly an optimistic time... So for all the accolades the soap opera between Noel and Liam being analysed, and the 'intellectual social commentaries' on the band, I don't know why writers fail to mention that the simplest answer to all this is, as Noel says in Wibbling Rivalry, 'MUSIC! MUSIC! MUSIC!' The hints of social commentary in Definitely Maybe are just window dressing to an already great album, because it boils down to life affirming sentiments aligned with top class melodies that give it conviction. It's extroverted showmanship by Liam from an introverted soul in Noel. It's euphoric, it's also melancholic. The music treads a line perfectly between the two qualities, often in the same song, same melody and same lyric. No other act on earth comes close to so perfectly balancing euphoria and melancholy. It's why their optimism and happiness is not the forced theatrical fantasy of most acts (hello Queen, latter Coldplay, most popstars) because the melancholy gives it a grounding in reality. It recognises that reality but makes you believe in better things. It's not art, it's not intellectual, it's sincerely emotional. It's a primal thing, and tapping into that and bottling it up in a simple song is genius. No wonder they're still huge. Brilliant post, really well put!
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Post by settingson on Aug 31, 2024 2:06:11 GMT -5
People want to like music and (young people in particular) want to like music that speaks to them about what they're feeling and thinking. They want larger than life songs and idols. They want some swagger.
They have timed this reunion perfectly and not just from a DM/WTSMG 30 perspective. The pendulum is swinging back from the extremes of cultural marxism and strict cancel culture. The High Sparrow must eventually fall.
People are ready for some fun in 2025.
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