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Post by oasisserbia on Mar 31, 2023 18:44:26 GMT -5
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Post by glider on Mar 31, 2023 22:23:34 GMT -5
Dot-com all over again. Enjoy the current peak while it last folks! Won't see proper innovation again for another 15 years after this.
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Post by Aman on Apr 2, 2023 6:01:11 GMT -5
This is great. Just hammers home all the Noel sung songs Liam should've sang when he was at his peak. |
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Post by glider on Apr 2, 2023 10:13:17 GMT -5
Love what it did with this one. Essentially patched up the shoddy vocals during the Familar To Millions set and made it more like the album version.
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Post by The Invisible Sun on Apr 2, 2023 10:34:18 GMT -5
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Post by The Invisible Sun on Apr 2, 2023 10:36:37 GMT -5
Love what it did with this one. Essentially patched up the shoddy vocals during the Familar To Millions set and made it more like the album version. It went really derpy in the middle when Noel chimed in. But other than that, sounds good. |
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Post by glider on Apr 2, 2023 10:39:52 GMT -5
Love what it did with this one. Essentially patched up the shoddy vocals during the Familar To Millions set and made it more like the album version. It went really derpy in the middle when Noel chimed in. But other than that, sounds good. Yeah this tech is going to be shoddy for a good minute. Considering he's using a mid-90s Liam in-studio voice sample, I wonder what it could sound like with a voice extraction from one of the 1999 gigs they did... |
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Post by matt on Apr 2, 2023 12:16:59 GMT -5
Do people really think this is good? Losing the prospect of musical endeavour being real. It’s diverting sure but I think it’s worry. This. This sums it all up for me. It's not good and like yourself I worry about all of this. Even if it is just being used as an enhanced method of autotune to correct bad performances (such as Liam's Gas Panic). Technology perfects everything, it's all sanitised, scrubs away the imperfections and 'what ifs'. To be human is to be flawed and curious and this doesn't achieve that. I saw an interview where Brian Eno said its in our subconscious to appreciate what feels human and that modern technology that perfects every song is leaving us further astray from experiencing authentic, raw emotion. On another level, this stuff is absolutely destroying human curiosity. It's all part of society's need for instant gratification. It leaves us with no exploration, no 'what if', no sense of what it is to discover. If all my desires about Oasis is going to be satisfied through AI, my curiosity and wonder about this band will take a beating. I don't need to hear Liam singing Don't Look Back In Anger if it doesn't exist. I can only wonder, and sometimes that's good enough. |
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Post by The Invisible Sun on Apr 2, 2023 13:33:23 GMT -5
Do people really think this is good? Losing the prospect of musical endeavour being real. It’s diverting sure but I think it’s worry. This. This sums it all up for me. It's not good and like yourself I worry about all of this. Even if it is just being used as an enhanced method of autotune to correct bad performances (such as Liam's Gas Panic). Technology perfects everything, it's all sanitised, scrubs away the imperfections and 'what ifs'. To be human is to be flawed and curious and this doesn't achieve that. I saw an interview with Brian Eno where he said its in our subconscious to appreciate what feels human and that modern technology that perfects every song is leaving us further astray from experiencing authentic, raw emotion. On another level, this stuff is absolutely destroying human curiosity. It's all part of society's need for instant gratification. It leaves us with no exploration, no 'what if', no sense of what it is to discover. If all my desires about Oasis is going to be satisfied through AI, my curiosity and wonder about this band will take a beating. I don't need to hear Liam singing Don't Look Back In Anger if it doesn't exist. I can only wonder, and sometimes that's good enough. This tech does the exact opposite for me. Interesting how we fall on different perspectives. For me a sense of wonder isn't enough. I need to explore it to feel fully satisfied. |
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Post by Aman on Apr 2, 2023 14:04:09 GMT -5
Yeah.
I'd like some more now, Falling Down would be good.
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Post by walterglass on Apr 2, 2023 14:36:00 GMT -5
Shit gives me the creeps.
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Post by welshylad on Apr 2, 2023 16:08:36 GMT -5
Can’t see how people think they’re good, they’re fuckin shockingly shit 😂
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Post by Diamond in The Dark on Apr 2, 2023 16:12:38 GMT -5
I love his 2000 voice at Wembley. And I love his 1999 studio voice. I would never trade it for his early 90's voice
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Post by Aman on Apr 2, 2023 16:31:01 GMT -5
I love his 2000 voice at Wembley. And I love his 1999 studio voice. I would never trade it for his early 90's voice Yeah, don't think the Gas Panic one needed to be done. Didn't really work. |
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Post by glider on Apr 2, 2023 17:23:41 GMT -5
I love his 2000 voice at Wembley. And I love his 1999 studio voice. I would never trade it for his early 90's voice Yeah, don't think the Gas Panic one needed to be done. Didn't really work. I just listened to the original and you're right, but if the AI was to do any gig in 2005-2007 or 2008-2009, it would be even worse, because then Liam was cutting his notes short and was completely flat in delivery live. So this only has a short shelf life for any Oasis performances in Mk2 era. |
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Post by jorgendif on Apr 3, 2023 12:04:41 GMT -5
I love it. I accept its AI and dont think its real Liam. Really interesting
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Post by glider on Apr 3, 2023 13:13:45 GMT -5
Almost had this working, then realized I'm on Windows with an AMD card...sigh...
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Post by tomlivesforever on Apr 3, 2023 16:54:27 GMT -5
The problem isn't necessarily now as it will satisfy a lot of peoples curiosity, there's nothing wrong with that. The problem is when people start passing stuff off as genuine rarities. Firstly because it will be difficult to tell as fans what's the real deal and secondly a lot of people will get stung for a lot of money.
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Post by Let It Bleed on Apr 3, 2023 17:45:28 GMT -5
AI is the work of the devil!
Thanks.
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Post by glider on Apr 3, 2023 22:29:49 GMT -5
The problem isn't necessarily now as it will satisfy a lot of peoples curiosity, there's nothing wrong with that. The problem is when people start passing stuff off as genuine rarities. Firstly because it will be difficult to tell as fans what's the real deal and secondly a lot of people will get stung for a lot of money. Plenty of the AI art and audio is easily distinguishable from real stuff (extra fingers on hands in AI photos, vocal warping and artifacts). If anything the AI era will make more people skeptical of rarities that could be released out of nowhere, which is understandably unfortunate for collectors sharing them, but I don't see AI scams being a thing until it truly becomes indistinguishable from reality. |
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Post by oasisserbia on Apr 4, 2023 16:33:44 GMT -5
This one is better
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Post by queenblougaredoc on Apr 5, 2023 0:57:43 GMT -5
This. This sums it all up for me. It's not good and like yourself I worry about all of this. Even if it is just being used as an enhanced method of autotune to correct bad performances (such as Liam's Gas Panic). Technology perfects everything, it's all sanitised, scrubs away the imperfections and 'what ifs'. To be human is to be flawed and curious and this doesn't achieve that. I saw an interview with Brian Eno where he said its in our subconscious to appreciate what feels human and that modern technology that perfects every song is leaving us further astray from experiencing authentic, raw emotion. On another level, this stuff is absolutely destroying human curiosity. It's all part of society's need for instant gratification. It leaves us with no exploration, no 'what if', no sense of what it is to discover. If all my desires about Oasis is going to be satisfied through AI, my curiosity and wonder about this band will take a beating. I don't need to hear Liam singing Don't Look Back In Anger if it doesn't exist. I can only wonder, and sometimes that's good enough. This tech does the exact opposite for me. Interesting how we fall on different perspectives. For me a sense of wonder isn't enough. I need to explore it to feel fully satisfied. Problem is you can’t explore things that don’t exist. And if you are exploring them, it is not a real thing. |
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Post by Aman on Apr 5, 2023 4:00:34 GMT -5
😍 Imagine they did this for real in the 90s live, oof. Liam would've smashed those verses and Noel comes in for the chorus. |
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Post by The Invisible Sun on Apr 5, 2023 8:16:42 GMT -5
This tech does the exact opposite for me. Interesting how we fall on different perspectives. For me a sense of wonder isn't enough. I need to explore it to feel fully satisfied. Problem is you can’t explore things that don’t exist. And if you are exploring them, it is not a real thing. But they do exist (or can exist with a little work). The exploration is the listening experience. It's like traveling. You're not going to enjoy every landmark or location you visit. But it's all part of the journey. |
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Post by GlastoEls on Apr 5, 2023 9:59:03 GMT -5
😍 Imagine they did this for real in the 90s live, oof. Liam would've smashed those verses and Noel comes in for the chorus. That’s awesome! |
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