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Post by welshylad on Oct 17, 2024 13:39:56 GMT -5
That’s mad Gonna trawl through the recordings i have now Did you find anything? I saw in the YT comments a fellow Cymro had a "clearer version"  Yes i sent him Charles Dewey Coles IV recording from Columbus Its much clearer than the clip he used, but still not 100% perfect. |
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Post by dampcottage on Oct 17, 2024 13:49:06 GMT -5
Thon boys stealing a livin
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Post by bt95 on Oct 17, 2024 17:13:17 GMT -5
I'm watching this now and my jaw is on the floor at that extended intro, holy fuck Yeah that's really weird though. I would really love to know what and who he's talking about. He actually sounds serious when he says he's being serious. He's clearly talking about Rowe. |
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Post by darmin on Oct 18, 2024 6:13:46 GMT -5
Well if we sharing our theories here…
I think that initially the reunion was scheduled for 2022 (not set in stone, not signed, very very approximately you know) but covid, long and complex negotiation process and the divorce delayed it. The negotiations (or first contact) started in the end of 2019. Council Skies and LGJS weren’t planned initially but happened because they had free time
It all based on rumors I heard, Liam’s tweets and some social media interactions I noticed
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Post by standonit on Oct 18, 2024 6:29:06 GMT -5
I think the reunion was always happening eventually, and Noel and Liam always knew that it would come to a point where it made sense in terms of timing and money and everything else.
I don't think it was secretly planned in the background for years though, it just doesn't seem to me that there's anything to indicate that.
If it was cooking in the background for a long time it would have made more sense to happen this year rather than Liam doing the DM tour alone, and I would think there might have been more to go with the announcement (more press, a new album, etc).
Everything about the way this reunion has went seems to indicate that the most obvious explanation is correct, that there were conversations earlier this summer and management were told to agree a deal with a promoter for stadiums around the world beginning next summer.
There's no indication that they have even sorted a lineup out, which is fine because they have plenty of time, but doesn't indicate this has been planned out for the last 5 years or so.
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Post by The Chief on Oct 18, 2024 7:08:21 GMT -5
Yeah that's really weird though. I would really love to know what and who he's talking about. He actually sounds serious when he says he's being serious. He's clearly talking about Rowe. Probably, but that wouldn't be really nice towards Mike since he actually sounds serious. |
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Post by artumlobov on Oct 18, 2024 7:10:38 GMT -5
I think the reunion was always happening eventually, and Noel and Liam always knew that it would come to a point where it made sense in terms of timing and money and everything else. I don't think it was secretly planned in the background for years though, it just doesn't seem to me that there's anything to indicate that. If it was cooking in the background for a long time it would have made more sense to happen this year rather than Liam doing the DM tour alone, and I would think there might have been more to go with the announcement (more press, a new album, etc). Everything about the way this reunion has went seems to indicate that the most obvious explanation is correct, that there were conversations earlier this summer and management were told to agree a deal with a promoter for stadiums around the world beginning next summer. There's no indication that they have even sorted a lineup out, which is fine because they have plenty of time, but doesn't indicate this has been planned out for the last 5 years or so. If it was part of some kind of masterplan then they wouldn't have had Liam do the John Squire or the DM30 tour. Relations might have improved in the background but I'd guess the decision was made in Spring this year. |
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Post by thespiderandthefly on Oct 18, 2024 9:02:27 GMT -5
"The bigger the lie, the more they believe."
- Bunk Moreland
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Post by darmin on Oct 18, 2024 9:52:07 GMT -5
I think the reunion was always happening eventually, and Noel and Liam always knew that it would come to a point where it made sense in terms of timing and money and everything else. I don't think it was secretly planned in the background for years though, it just doesn't seem to me that there's anything to indicate that. If it was cooking in the background for a long time it would have made more sense to happen this year rather than Liam doing the DM tour alone, and I would think there might have been more to go with the announcement (more press, a new album, etc). Everything about the way this reunion has went seems to indicate that the most obvious explanation is correct, that there were conversations earlier this summer and management were told to agree a deal with a promoter for stadiums around the world beginning next summer. There's no indication that they have even sorted a lineup out, which is fine because they have plenty of time, but doesn't indicate this has been planned out for the last 5 years or so. If it was part of some kind of masterplan then they wouldn't have had Liam do the John Squire or the DM30 tour. Relations might have improved in the background but I'd guess the decision was made in Spring this year. There was no masterplan. There both knew that the reunions gonna happen but had different visions when and how. Also a lot of stuff happened in their lives Liam asked for the reunion in 2015 because of his difficult financial situation and Noel said him get to fuck. Noel’s solo career was doing fine at that point, it was too early for him to end it, “maybe after one more album? If you’re lucky” That made their relationship much worse. Their animosity in 2016-2019 was very genuine. And answering to questions of one the posters above, probably that’s why Paul resented Noel and they stopped talking - for the way Noel treated their younger brother when he asked for help. Then Liam started his solo career and the rest is history |
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Post by andymorris on Oct 18, 2024 10:16:13 GMT -5
Liam asked for the reunion in 2015 because of his difficult financial situation and Noel said him get to fuck. I highly doubt Liam was ever in any kind of "difficult financial situation". They are in joint company running all things Oasis which generates a lot of money, even in 2015 ( see here). Its been very steady for years. This means a steady income no matter what but it depends on how many shares liam has (probably the same has Noel, but get less because of songwriting credits). He's still cashing a lot of money every year in dividend. "difficult financial situation" for a rock star maybe... So maybe no to put cocaine on cereals every morning but at least once a week. Its probably been greatly exagerated to make it seems like it was a bigger comeback than it ever was. |
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Post by darmin on Oct 18, 2024 10:23:34 GMT -5
Liam asked for the reunion in 2015 because of his difficult financial situation and Noel said him get to fuck. I highly doubt Liam was ever in any kind of "difficult financial situation". They are in joint company running all things Oasis which generates a lot of money, even in 2015 ( see here). Its been very steady for years. This means a steady income no matter what but it depends on how many shares liam has (probably the same has Noel, but get less because of songwriting credits). He's still cashing a lot of money every year in dividend. "difficult financial situation" for a rock star maybe... So maybe no to put cocaine on cereals every morning but at least once a week. Its probably been greatly exagerated to make it seems like it was a bigger comeback than it ever was. Liam couldn’t afford buying a house in London, they rented an apartment, that’s fact. Obviously a lot of people lives like this and they are fine but by his standards he was skint. Everything is relative! |
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Post by notsally on Oct 18, 2024 10:26:37 GMT -5
Liam asked for the reunion in 2015 because of his difficult financial situation and Noel said him get to fuck. I highly doubt Liam was ever in any kind of "difficult financial situation". They are in joint company running all things Oasis which generates a lot of money, even in 2015 ( see here). Its been very steady for years. This means a steady income no matter what but it depends on how many shares liam has (probably the same has Noel, but get less because of songwriting credits). He's still cashing a lot of money every year in dividend. "difficult financial situation" for a rock star maybe... So maybe no to put cocaine on cereals every morning but at least once a week. Its probably been greatly exagerated to make it seems like it was a bigger comeback than it ever was. I'd hardly say Liam was struggling to make ends meet, but I can see how the equation "expensive lifestyle + debt" can quickly make someone truly believe to be in a "difficult financial situation", even if the situation looks for us, common people, something easy to figure out. i've seen dozens of times irl |
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Post by ChampagneHypernova on Oct 18, 2024 10:38:50 GMT -5
I highly doubt Liam was ever in any kind of "difficult financial situation". They are in joint company running all things Oasis which generates a lot of money, even in 2015 ( see here). Its been very steady for years. This means a steady income no matter what but it depends on how many shares liam has (probably the same has Noel, but get less because of songwriting credits). He's still cashing a lot of money every year in dividend. "difficult financial situation" for a rock star maybe... So maybe no to put cocaine on cereals every morning but at least once a week. Its probably been greatly exagerated to make it seems like it was a bigger comeback than it ever was. Liam couldn’t afford buying a house in London, they rented an apartment, that’s fact. Obviously a lot of people lives like this and they are fine but by his standards he was skint. Everything is relative! I wasn't aware of that. It seems that he was able to buy a mansion in 2020. Almost 4 million pounds. Most likely he made a lot of money from his solo tours and albums. He made some bad financial decisions over the years. |
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Post by andymorris on Oct 18, 2024 10:57:09 GMT -5
I highly doubt Liam was ever in any kind of "difficult financial situation". They are in joint company running all things Oasis which generates a lot of money, even in 2015 ( see here). Its been very steady for years. This means a steady income no matter what but it depends on how many shares liam has (probably the same has Noel, but get less because of songwriting credits). He's still cashing a lot of money every year in dividend. "difficult financial situation" for a rock star maybe... So maybe no to put cocaine on cereals every morning but at least once a week. Its probably been greatly exagerated to make it seems like it was a bigger comeback than it ever was. Liam couldn’t afford buying a house in London, they rented an apartment, that’s fact. Obviously a lot of people lives like this and they are fine but by his standards he was skint. Everything is relative! This is what i'm saying, it was obviously exaggerated. Liam owned a 1.5m house so he probably lost half of that to the divorce, which left him more than enough to buy a reasonable home in a neighborhood where "poor" people live. It was a matter of class and level of wealth, not being poor. He was probably a big spender when Noel was just looking at his account every morning. |
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Post by zeberdee on Oct 18, 2024 11:20:43 GMT -5
just commented on the James new video:
"I think you've sort of made this into a whole lot of nothing. This has absolutely nothing to do with Liam. The audio you claimed may be Liam sounds nothing like him.
Also, this is clearly Noel having a little joke with one of his band members. Possibly his drummer? Like you say they were live streaming and filming. That's just Noels sense of humour, "pixelate his face, dont show that c**t" etc...in fact Noel may have actually been talking about Strangeboy, would be way more likelier.
The subterfuge comment is just him playing on the subject of a broken relationship between 2 band members. Hence the "at least one more album" comment. Liam was not involved in any of this."
Whole lot of nothing imo
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Post by springvibes on Oct 18, 2024 15:53:23 GMT -5
just commented on the James new video: "I think you've sort of made this into a whole lot of nothing. This has absolutely nothing to do with Liam. The audio you claimed may be Liam sounds nothing like him. Also, this is clearly Noel having a little joke with one of his band members. Possibly his drummer? Like you say they were live streaming and filming. That's just Noels sense of humour, "pixelate his face, dont show that c**t" etc...in fact Noel may have actually been talking about Strangeboy, would be way more likelier. The subterfuge comment is just him playing on the subject of a broken relationship between 2 band members. Hence the "at least one more album" comment. Liam was not involved in any of this." As another poster mentioned earlier about the pixelate is about mike rowe who played piano at the radio session |
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Post by thestylecouncil on Oct 18, 2024 19:01:42 GMT -5
I highly doubt Liam was ever in any kind of "difficult financial situation". They are in joint company running all things Oasis which generates a lot of money, even in 2015 ( see here). Its been very steady for years. This means a steady income no matter what but it depends on how many shares liam has (probably the same has Noel, but get less because of songwriting credits). He's still cashing a lot of money every year in dividend. "difficult financial situation" for a rock star maybe... So maybe no to put cocaine on cereals every morning but at least once a week. Its probably been greatly exagerated to make it seems like it was a bigger comeback than it ever was. Liam couldn’t afford buying a house in London, they rented an apartment, that’s fact. Obviously a lot of people lives like this and they are fine but by his standards he was skint. Everything is relative! I think he was renting at the time because he didn't want to commit to a place, not because he couldn't afford buying. You don't buy a house or apartment if you don't want to keep it or stay in it. He moved quite a few times in the last decade, why should he buy a place that he just wants to live in temporary. He was far from being skint even before his solo career, he said so himself in 2017. |
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Post by darmin on Oct 19, 2024 0:23:12 GMT -5
Liam couldn’t afford buying a house in London, they rented an apartment, that’s fact. Obviously a lot of people lives like this and they are fine but by his standards he was skint. Everything is relative! I think he was renting at the time because he didn't want to commit to a place, not because he couldn't afford buying. You don't buy a house or apartment if you don't want to keep it or stay in it. He moved quite a few times in the last decade, why should he buy a place that he just wants to live in temporary. He was far from being skint even before his solo career, he said so himself in 2017. He said it in interview in 2019. He couldn’t buy a house in London, so he rented There were also photos of said apartment in the press so he didn’t invented it They bought a house as soon as they could after starting his solo career so I don’t think it it was about committing to a place. They moved a lot not because they like moving houses all the time. After staring his solo career they bought a small house, then they had money for better house, sold it and moved etc |
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Post by andymorris on Oct 19, 2024 1:30:16 GMT -5
I think he was renting at the time because he didn't want to commit to a place, not because he couldn't afford buying. You don't buy a house or apartment if you don't want to keep it or stay in it. He moved quite a few times in the last decade, why should he buy a place that he just wants to live in temporary. He was far from being skint even before his solo career, he said so himself in 2017. He said it in interview in 2019. He couldn’t buy a house in London, so he rented There were also photos of said apartment in the press so he didn’t invented it They bought a house as soon as they could after starting his solo career so I don’t think it it was about committing to a place. They moved a lot not because they like moving houses all the time. After staring his solo career they bought a small house, then they had money for better house, sold it and moved etc Dude seriously, its Liam Gallagher, the guy made millions in the 90s and 00s. Even with two divorces and stupid decisions, There's no way he was never able to buy a house. This is ridiculous. They make millions from Oasis Royalties alone every year. Be realistic for a second. As the other poster said, there's probably other reasons. New relationship, dont want to bath the new girl in gold right away... Its a different world, lots of gold diggers; You gotta be careful. There is also the reality that when you just come out of a divorce, you dont want to commit to anything right away, it happens a lot. Some people never ever settle again after a divorce. |
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Post by Bonehead's Barber on Oct 24, 2024 9:49:09 GMT -5
Who here is behind the James Hargreaves subreddit? Funny as fuck
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Post by morning_rain on Oct 24, 2024 11:56:24 GMT -5
Who here is behind the James Hargreaves subreddit? Funny as fuck I always wonder why some people get so annoyed about this guy that they spend so much time making fun of him. Even the craziest videos like the one of "Dead in the water" are entertaining. And the thing about ridiculing someone's physical appearance who's simply making videos about Oasis, a band we all love, I just can't laugh at that, but I'm glad some people are having fun. |
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Post by matt on Oct 24, 2024 12:04:55 GMT -5
Who here is behind the James Hargreaves subreddit? Funny as fuck I always wonder why some people get so annoyed about this guy that they spend so much time making fun of him. Even the craziest videos like the one of "Dead in the water" are entertaining. And the thing about ridiculing someone's physical appearance who's simply making videos about Oasis, a band we all love, I just can't laugh at that, but I'm glad some people are having fun. I think it has less to do with his video analysis and more to do with his, erm, 'music' that he says will 'take back the charts'... |
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Post by shadowcaster on Oct 24, 2024 13:38:50 GMT -5
I always wonder why some people get so annoyed about this guy that they spend so much time making fun of him. Even the craziest videos like the one of "Dead in the water" are entertaining. And the thing about ridiculing someone's physical appearance who's simply making videos about Oasis, a band we all love, I just can't laugh at that, but I'm glad some people are having fun. I think it has less to do with his video analysis and more to do with his, erm, 'music' that he says will 'take back the charts'... Totally agree, I actually like quite a few of James' deep dives, especially when he explores topics which I'm less familiar with. They're an entertaining 20-30min watch, with lots of new info presented in an engaging format. However, I do find his whole Take Back the Charts 'campaign' totally idiotic and blatantly self-serving. It serves no actual purpose other than to promote his shitty songs - how some people can't see that is beyond me... |
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Post by Bonehead's Barber on Oct 24, 2024 14:04:56 GMT -5
Who here is behind the James Hargreaves subreddit? Funny as fuck I always wonder why some people get so annoyed about this guy that they spend so much time making fun of him. Even the craziest videos like the one of "Dead in the water" are entertaining. And the thing about ridiculing someone's physical appearance who's simply making videos about Oasis, a band we all love, I just can't laugh at that, but I'm glad some people are having fun. I don't think there's anything there about his physical appearance. There is plenty of content to do with him, for some reason, shagging cars though. I think the majority of it is to do with his horrendous music, though. He does videos about 'how to write a song like _______' and then knocks out Girl on the Other Side of the Room and Designated Driver. It's all just a bit of fun IMO |
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Post by neila83 on Oct 24, 2024 17:13:39 GMT -5
Liam couldn’t afford buying a house in London, they rented an apartment, that’s fact. Obviously a lot of people lives like this and they are fine but by his standards he was skint. Everything is relative! This is what i'm saying, it was obviously exaggerated. Liam owned a 1.5m house so he probably lost half of that to the divorce, which left him more than enough to buy a reasonable home in a neighborhood where "poor" people live. It was a matter of class and level of wealth, not being poor. He was probably a big spender when Noel was just looking at his account every morning. It may have been exaggerated, but I think people also underestimate how apparently very wealthy people can quite easily fall into financial trouble with a few bad choices. A very expensive lifestyle e.g. long term drug habit, expensive assets, two divorces, child support for an illegitimate child, those will have taken the bulk of everything he earned. Liam would not be the first rock star to suddenly be scarily close to not having enough liquid assets to fund their monthly outgoings. There would have been a good few years I expect Liam's outgoings were far higher than his income between Oasis splitting up and his solo career. Hence the number of reunion tours we see after divorces. |
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