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Post by Derrick on Jul 6, 2022 14:34:06 GMT -5
Do we have any clue what the setlist was for this short private gig? It's Good to be Rich Buck and Roll Star Diamond in the Dark For What It's Worth Champagne Supernova No "Put yer money where yer mouth is" then?
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Post by laylag on Jul 6, 2022 20:27:12 GMT -5
Liam as some rich boy's party act? His business, I guess.
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Post by oasisserbia on Jul 8, 2022 9:53:25 GMT -5
FIVE HUNDRED GRAND FOR 5 SONGS. Anyone saying they wouldn't do that are talking out of their arse. You'd be absolutely mad not to. No matter what you're wealth status is. I wouldn't.
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Post by matt on Jul 8, 2022 14:40:00 GMT -5
If I had the money of Liam and the reputation of being a rock star, I certainly wouldn't.
This is something modern day U2 would do.
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Post by girllikeabomb on Jul 8, 2022 14:49:33 GMT -5
FIVE HUNDRED GRAND FOR 5 SONGS. Anyone saying they wouldn't do that are talking out of their arse. You'd be absolutely mad not to. No matter what you're wealth status is. I wouldn't.
In reality, some people always do these gigs and some people never do them. Some people do them at times and decline them at others (for a particularly nasty person or evil-doing company.)
Some people take lucrative gigs and pour the money into their foundations or charities.
As with many things discussed on this forum based on headlines, there are all kinds of shadings that go beyond black and white.
But that all said, mercenary as the world is (and dead as true rock and roll counterculture is) in 2022, you are not alone. There are still people—rich, poor, and in between—who don’t value money uber alles.
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Post by Mario on Jul 8, 2022 23:05:31 GMT -5
It could have been worse. At least he didn't pop out of a cake and sing happy birthday, mr. president
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Post by bt95 on Jul 9, 2022 2:21:17 GMT -5
I don't really have an issue with it, it's just the sad state of the world.
I do think the reaction from a lot on here saying they think it's absolutely fine would be a lot different if Noel did it, mind.
But yeah, crack on like. £500k easy money.
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Post by justaroundmidnight on Jul 9, 2022 2:49:49 GMT -5
Liam claims to be man of the people, rock'n'roll star, slags Noel off for being money orientated. Would Liam have had a field day on Twatter if Noel had done this gig? Probably. Liam doesn't need the money. Greedy soul. Just like the rest of these "idols". It's all about fame, money and ego.
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Post by darmin on Jul 9, 2022 2:58:59 GMT -5
Liam claims to be man of the people, rock'n'roll star, slags Noel off for being money orientated. Would Liam have had a field day on Twatter if Noel had done this gig? Probably. Liam doesn't need the money. Greedy soul. Just like the rest of these "idols". It's all about fame, money and ego. 🙄😂
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Post by girllikeabomb on Jul 9, 2022 4:47:35 GMT -5
Liam claims to be man of the people, rock'n'roll star, slags Noel off for being money orientated. Would Liam have had a field day on Twatter if Noel had done this gig? Probably. Liam doesn't need the money. Greedy soul. Just like the rest of these "idols". It's all about fame, money and ego.
Actually, Liam never said a word about Noel playing the gamer's conference, which was also likely a big fat fee for a few songs -- though maybe he'd already booked the billionaire's birthday by then. Don't think either of them has the high ground. But just wait until Noel sells the catalog ...
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Post by jh on Jul 9, 2022 6:53:23 GMT -5
Liam claims to be man of the people, rock'n'roll star, slags Noel off for being money orientated. Would Liam have had a field day on Twatter if Noel had done this gig? Probably. Liam doesn't need the money. Greedy soul. Just like the rest of these "idols". It's all about fame, money and ego.
Actually, Liam never said a word about Noel playing the gamer's conference, which was also likely a big fat fee for a few songs -- though maybe he'd already booked the billionaire's birthday by then. Don't think either of them has the high ground. But just wait until Noel sells the catalog ...
Could you imagine a wacko jacko beatleseque fiasco....
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Post by sheisloved on Jul 11, 2022 11:40:28 GMT -5
No Brainer
Take the money
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Post by sheisloved on Jul 11, 2022 11:41:42 GMT -5
FIVE HUNDRED GRAND FOR 5 SONGS. Anyone saying they wouldn't do that are talking out of their arse. You'd be absolutely mad not to. No matter what you're wealth status is. I wouldn't. Stop lol. Of course you would. Don't try and play the heavy
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Post by joladella on Jul 11, 2022 12:16:13 GMT -5
I guess for me it depends if I would be paid for doing my very own job for 30 minutes. Happy to! But to sing?! I think they'd pay me a small fortune not to sing!
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Post by oasisserbia on Jul 11, 2022 15:26:47 GMT -5
Stop lol. Of course you would. Don't try and play the heavy Ok.
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Post by knownoname on Jul 12, 2022 5:10:56 GMT -5
Liam claims to be man of the people, rock'n'roll star, slags Noel off for being money orientated. Would Liam have had a field day on Twatter if Noel had done this gig? Probably. Liam doesn't need the money. Greedy soul. Just like the rest of these "idols". It's all about fame, money and ego. I'm always surprised of people saying "Liam doesn't need the money" - we do have no idea about his financial status. Not wanting to say he seems like an average income earner, but there might be houses, debts, education fees for all his children, ex wifes that still receive money etc. - just from his sales and touring getting immensely rich is not happening, we also know that the Oasis catalogue belongs to Noel. So I guess 500k is definitely money that is not negligible for him as an addition to his regular income.
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Post by justaroundmidnight on Jul 12, 2022 6:04:50 GMT -5
Liam claims to be man of the people, rock'n'roll star, slags Noel off for being money orientated. Would Liam have had a field day on Twatter if Noel had done this gig? Probably. Liam doesn't need the money. Greedy soul. Just like the rest of these "idols". It's all about fame, money and ego. I'm always surprised of people saying "Liam doesn't need the money" - we do have no idea about his financial status. Not wanting to say he seems like an average income earner, but there might be houses, debts, education fees for all his children, ex wifes that still receive money etc. - just from his sales and touring getting immensely rich is not happening, we also know that the Oasis catalogue belongs to Noel. So I guess 500k is definitely money that is not negligible for him as an addition to his regular income. For someone who claims "we have no idea about his financial situation" you then guess 500k is definitely money that is not negligible for him. He's a multi-millionaire. He's just done 2 nights at Knebworth, UK stadium tour, headlined Reading last year. Toured like fuck before that. Plenty of gigs lined up. Private educations, properties? Oh how the other half live. ex wives, debts. You make your bed. That's the sad thing. At the end of the day, above all else, it's about the money.
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Post by thomaslivesforever on Jul 12, 2022 11:07:23 GMT -5
I'm always surprised of people saying "Liam doesn't need the money" - we do have no idea about his financial status. Not wanting to say he seems like an average income earner, but there might be houses, debts, education fees for all his children, ex wifes that still receive money etc. - just from his sales and touring getting immensely rich is not happening, we also know that the Oasis catalogue belongs to Noel. So I guess 500k is definitely money that is not negligible for him as an addition to his regular income. For someone who claims "we have no idea about his financial situation" you then guess 500k is definitely money that is not negligible for him. He's a multi-millionaire. He's just done 2 nights at Knebworth, UK stadium tour, headlined Reading last year. Toured like fuck before that. Plenty of gigs lined up. Private educations, properties? Oh how the other half live. ex wives, debts. You make your bed. That's the sad thing. At the end of the day, above all else, it's about the money. Above all else is stretching it of course and no surprise from you but I wouldn’t have done it myself.
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Post by knownoname on Jul 13, 2022 4:47:06 GMT -5
I'm always surprised of people saying "Liam doesn't need the money" - we do have no idea about his financial status. Not wanting to say he seems like an average income earner, but there might be houses, debts, education fees for all his children, ex wifes that still receive money etc. - just from his sales and touring getting immensely rich is not happening, we also know that the Oasis catalogue belongs to Noel. So I guess 500k is definitely money that is not negligible for him as an addition to his regular income. For someone who claims "we have no idea about his financial situation" you then guess 500k is definitely money that is not negligible for him. He's a multi-millionaire. He's just done 2 nights at Knebworth, UK stadium tour, headlined Reading last year. Toured like fuck before that. Plenty of gigs lined up. Private educations, properties? Oh how the other half live. ex wives, debts. You make your bed. That's the sad thing. At the end of the day, above all else, it's about the money. It is true, we do not - but we do have insights into the music industry and how much actually touring costs and how much an artist can approximately take away: www.theguardian.com/music/2017/jan/30/where-does-concert-ticket-money-goIt is not like you do two Knebworth gigs and walk away as a multi millionaire, there are massive logistical and administrative costs involved before and during the show as well as VAT and income and cultural taxes to be paid. It is an illusion, that touring artists are super rich, you have a top tier like the Rolling Stones for example, but Liam does not fall into that category, especially outside of the UK.
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Post by justaroundmidnight on Jul 13, 2022 6:56:34 GMT -5
For someone who claims "we have no idea about his financial situation" you then guess 500k is definitely money that is not negligible for him. He's a multi-millionaire. He's just done 2 nights at Knebworth, UK stadium tour, headlined Reading last year. Toured like fuck before that. Plenty of gigs lined up. Private educations, properties? Oh how the other half live. ex wives, debts. You make your bed. That's the sad thing. At the end of the day, above all else, it's about the money. It is true, we do not - but we do have insights into the music industry and how much actually touring costs and how much an artist can approximately take away: www.theguardian.com/music/2017/jan/30/where-does-concert-ticket-money-goIt is not like you do two Knebworth gigs and walk away as a multi millionaire, there are massive logistical and administrative costs involved before and during the show as well as VAT and income and cultural taxes to be paid. It is an illusion, that touring artists are super rich, you have a top tier like the Rolling Stones for example, but Liam does not fall into that category, especially outside of the UK. The 'top tier' Rolling Stones aren't doing bigger gigs than Liam in the UK. It doesn't matter when he gets paid, the gigs have been big, and plentiful, in the past, and with more to come. We can speculate all day how much he earns and when he gets paid - we know he is extremely wealthy, so I don't think an iconic rock'n'roll star should be doing a private gig for a wealthy businessman, in principle, regardless of the money.
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Post by AubreyOasis on Jul 13, 2022 9:59:31 GMT -5
It's not only about Liam's personal wealth. Many people's income depend indirectly on him, starting with his band, and they are certainly not millionaires. Why not to do it? As long as the guy is not a weapons dealer or something like that, I see not problem at all. What's the difference with playing to Sony executives in the old days, for instance ?
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Post by girllikeabomb on Jul 13, 2022 11:27:51 GMT -5
For someone who claims "we have no idea about his financial situation" you then guess 500k is definitely money that is not negligible for him. He's a multi-millionaire. He's just done 2 nights at Knebworth, UK stadium tour, headlined Reading last year. Toured like fuck before that. Plenty of gigs lined up. Private educations, properties? Oh how the other half live. ex wives, debts. You make your bed. That's the sad thing. At the end of the day, above all else, it's about the money. It is true, we do not - but we do have insights into the music industry and how much actually touring costs and how much an artist can approximately take away: www.theguardian.com/music/2017/jan/30/where-does-concert-ticket-money-goIt is not like you do two Knebworth gigs and walk away as a multi millionaire, there are massive logistical and administrative costs involved before and during the show as well as VAT and income and cultural taxes to be paid. It is an illusion, that touring artists are super rich, you have a top tier like the Rolling Stones for example, but Liam does not fall into that category, especially outside of the UK.
He takes private jets to Mustique -- he's doing fine! (While you're googling, check out the prices.)
He's not a billionaire and he's not Mick Jagger (though he's also 30 years younger) but he has many streams of income--he does substantial licensing (both of his name and his music), he draws big festival headliner fees on that side of the pond, and he has Oasis-related income (was a producer on the Knebworth film, for example) on top of everything else.
Money creates money as well (if a bit less so while the financial markets are tanking ...) Properly invested just the money he's made this summer should provide a nice nest egg for some time and fund his kids' inheritances.
There is never any limit to how much money is enough. Your lifestyle expands to the money that is coming in and then it becomes normal to maintain that (including generosity and philanthropy), except in very rare cases where people reach a point where they decide to give a lot of it away.
Still not the greatest look to play for billionaires and then cancel shows for the plebes a few days later ... but it reflects the priorities of the culture more than anything.
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Post by darmin on Jul 15, 2022 1:12:42 GMT -5
It is true, we do not - but we do have insights into the music industry and how much actually touring costs and how much an artist can approximately take away: www.theguardian.com/music/2017/jan/30/where-does-concert-ticket-money-goIt is not like you do two Knebworth gigs and walk away as a multi millionaire, there are massive logistical and administrative costs involved before and during the show as well as VAT and income and cultural taxes to be paid. It is an illusion, that touring artists are super rich, you have a top tier like the Rolling Stones for example, but Liam does not fall into that category, especially outside of the UK.
He takes private jets to Mustique -- he's doing fine! (While you're googling, check out the prices.)
He's not a billionaire and he's not Mick Jagger (though he's also 30 years younger) but he has many streams of income--he does substantial licensing (both of his name and his music), he draws big festival headliner fees on that side of the pond, and he has Oasis-related income (was a producer on the Knebworth film, for example) on top of everything else.
Money creates money as well (if a bit less so while the financial markets are tanking ...) Properly invested just the money he's made this summer should provide a nice nest egg for some time and fund his kids' inheritances.
There is never any limit to how much money is enough. Your lifestyle expands to the money that is coming in and then it becomes normal to maintain that (including generosity and philanthropy), except in very rare cases where people reach a point where they decide to give a lot of it away.
Still not the greatest look to play for billionaires and then cancel shows for the plebes a few days later ... but it reflects the priorities of the culture more than anything.
I think his point wasn’t that Liam is poor but that 500k is not negligible sum for Liam and his team, far from it. And he’s right it’s obvious if you follow Liams career, read something about the touring business and know basic math
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Post by girllikeabomb on Jul 15, 2022 1:58:12 GMT -5
He takes private jets to Mustique -- he's doing fine! (While you're googling, check out the prices.)
He's not a billionaire and he's not Mick Jagger (though he's also 30 years younger) but he has many streams of income--he does substantial licensing (both of his name and his music), he draws big festival headliner fees on that side of the pond, and he has Oasis-related income (was a producer on the Knebworth film, for example) on top of everything else.
Money creates money as well (if a bit less so while the financial markets are tanking ...) Properly invested just the money he's made this summer should provide a nice nest egg for some time and fund his kids' inheritances.
There is never any limit to how much money is enough. Your lifestyle expands to the money that is coming in and then it becomes normal to maintain that (including generosity and philanthropy), except in very rare cases where people reach a point where they decide to give a lot of it away.
Still not the greatest look to play for billionaires and then cancel shows for the plebes a few days later ... but it reflects the priorities of the culture more than anything.
I think his point wasn’t that Liam is poor but that 500k is not negligible sum for Liam and his team, far from it. And he’s right it’s obvious if you follow Liams career, read something about the touring business and know basic math
The personal hostility on this forum, it’s really just a drag. My math skills are fine, and I’d guess I know more about the entertainment business than most here (being as I work in it.) And hence I am aware that Liam is not “not poor.” He is rich. Extremely wealthy. Prosperous. Loaded. Handsomely compensated and rolling in it, especially after this summer.
$500,000 is always a lot of money under any circumstances, and some will do practically anything for that amount of money and some will not (yes, really), but that wasn’t what I was getting at. I’m merely saying that Liam, being in an unusually lucky position, is not being crushed by the music business or barely making it. If you truly understand how it works, then you know a) he certainly makes a profit from touring, especially from festivals where it’s usually a big, flat fee for headliners and b) he has multiple sources of income, which he has been maximizing this summer. The end.
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Post by darmin on Jul 15, 2022 2:21:38 GMT -5
I think his point wasn’t that Liam is poor but that 500k is not negligible sum for Liam and his team, far from it. And he’s right it’s obvious if you follow Liams career, read something about the touring business and know basic math
The personal hostility on this forum, it’s really just a drag. My math skills are fine, and I’d guess I know more about the entertainment business than most here (being as I work in it.) And hence I am aware that Liam is not “not poor.” He is rich. Extremely wealthy. Prosperous. Loaded. Handsomely compensated and rolling in it, especially after this summer.
$500,000 is always a lot of money under any circumstances, and some will do practically anything for that amount of money and some will not (yes, really), but that wasn’t what I was getting at. I’m merely saying that Liam, being in an unusually lucky position, is not being crushed by the music business or barely making it. If you truly understand how it works, then you know a) he certainly makes a profit from touring, especially from festivals where it’s usually a big, flat fee for headliners and b) he has multiple sources of income, which he has been maximizing this summer. The end.
It was a drag but it wasn’t aimed at you 🙂 👀 No personal hostility Ok I get your point, thanx for explaining. I don’t agree with “extremely” part but it’s all relative
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