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Post by Diamond in The Dark on Jun 21, 2022 4:14:46 GMT -5
How satisfied are you with Noel's solo career so far, relying on studio and live albums, setlists and "vibe" at his concerts?
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Post by Gas Panic on Jun 21, 2022 4:41:38 GMT -5
Very solid albums, also really enjoyed the EPs.
Enjoyable gigs, but don't bother going to more than one show per tour though. Save your money for electricity and petrol!
8/10
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Post by AubreyOasis on Jun 21, 2022 13:43:23 GMT -5
Very good songwriting level overall. Back to form as a songwriter after the dissapointing 00s.
He has also been able to introduce more variety in his sound, especially in WBTM and the EPs, but also in parts of CY. The first album also had great songs but the production sounded old (as most of the Oasis output in the 00s, btw)
Commercially speaking, all albums went platinum and the first one sold even more than the last Oasis albums
I have seen him 3 times live, each time touring a different album, and the three concerts were great and quite different from each other.
He has been 3 times #1 in my yearly Spotify lists, so I guess it's safe to say that I still enjoy his music a lot
So 9/10
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Post by megyesitomate on Jun 21, 2022 13:57:43 GMT -5
I like his first two albums a lot more than AYW and WMWN. WBTM is a missed opportunity but it does include Holy Mountain, one of my favourite songs, and the EPs gave us BSD, which is another one of my favs. And since it's been ages since he toured Europe, I can't say anything about his gigs. I guess I'll see in 2023/24.
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Post by Marissa on Jun 21, 2022 14:21:34 GMT -5
sappy, nostalgic post incoming...
the first two records were so incredibly meaningful to me, and those gigs are my fondest memories. those were such a pivotal few years in my life and i'm grateful for noel's soundtrack keeping me going. the interactions i had with noel the few times i met him i will never forget. we shared a moment when i was still quite young that i will treasure forever.
not to mention the community of oasis fans i've connected with in so many random places around this country... i'll never forget hearing EOTR live for the first time at my first show in 2011 (sing to yourself and hold on). i'll never forget champagne supernova live acoustically in.... what, 2014? i don't remember (edit: 2015, according to my forum signature hahahaha). the experiences i had with those records and those shows have never been matched by another artist for me and never will.
the last gig i went to several years ago felt like the ending of that to me, and i never cared for WBTM. but i think that's just a part of me moving forward with life.
NGHFB holds a very special place in my heart.
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Post by artumlobov on Jun 21, 2022 14:57:06 GMT -5
As far as I'm concerned it is a big old bag of shite.
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Post by walterglass on Jun 21, 2022 15:48:38 GMT -5
He could push it further…if he a) signed to a major and/or b) bagged himself a frontman.
The music has been really good though.
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Post by tiger40 on Jun 21, 2022 17:46:05 GMT -5
Well the only album I really like by Noel is Chasing Yesterday, the other two well I don't like the first album much and the last one it's ok but I don't make a habit of listening to it. As for the EPs there's some songs which I like but over all I don't listen to them much these days. So I'm sorry to say only 5/10 from me.
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Post by fluff123 on Jun 22, 2022 2:28:52 GMT -5
It's all about opinions isn't it? I love what he's done so far. But I think I'm in the minority when I say that I love EVERY oasis album in their own right for what they are. Same goes for solo stuff. I like all of it. I've not been disappointed with any release. Sometimes I don't know what people expect.?.?. But in my opinion, the first NGHFB album is my favourite out of EVERYTHING. I don't know if that's me just getting older or what... But I genuinely think it's the most mature album and is a genuine masterpiece. If you throw in the b-sides and mix up the tracklisting a tad like an old fashioned double LP, it's epic. As I've said before, to me, It's 'All Things Must Pass' for a different generation. Pure class.
SIDE A
Everybody's on the run
Dream on
If I had a gun...
The Good Rebel
SIDE B
The death of you and me
Record machine
Aka... what a life!
SIDE C
Soldier boys and Jesus freaks
I'd pick you every time
Aka broken arrow
Stranded on the wrong beach
SIDE D
Alone on the rope
Simple game of genius
Let the lord shine a light on me
Stop the clocks
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Post by 4everlife on Jun 22, 2022 6:55:45 GMT -5
I voted 7. It would have been a 5 if not for Chasing Yesterday.
Chasing Yesterday is by far imo the best post oasis Gallagher release, and quite possibly the 3rd best Oasis related album. I really think it's that good.
The first album has great tunes but horrid production. WBTM has interesting production but much weaker songs. I'm not a big fan of most of the EP era songs, with the exception of maybe A Dream Is All I Need To Get By. I honestly feel he's gotten a bit sappy and many of the songs seem disinterested.
I really hope his next album will grab me more.
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Post by The-Ghost-Dancer on Jun 22, 2022 7:59:44 GMT -5
Musically brilliant just wish he change.his set more often
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Post by bt95 on Jun 22, 2022 10:06:14 GMT -5
He could push it further…if he a) signed to a major and/or b) bagged himself a frontman.
The music has been really good though. I mean.... that's not what a 'solo career' is though, is it... |
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Post by walterglass on Jun 22, 2022 10:09:21 GMT -5
He could push it further…if he a) signed to a major and/or b) bagged himself a frontman.
The music has been really good though. I mean.... that's not what a 'solo career' is though, is it... That there is a damn fine point. |
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Post by Rivers on Jun 29, 2022 12:10:57 GMT -5
Chasing Yesterday is by far imo the best post oasis Gallagher release, and quite possibly the 3rd best Oasis related album. I really think it's that good. The first album has great tunes but horrid production. WBTM has interesting production but much weaker songs. I'm not a big fan of most of the EP era songs, with the exception of maybe A Dream Is All I Need To Get By. I honestly feel he's gotten a bit sappy and many of the songs seem disinterested. I really hope his next album will grab me more. My thoughts exactly on every album (although I don't rank any Noel or Liam related album above any Oasis one). I've got high hopes for the next album too, if only it didn't take that long for him to release it. I mean come on, we had 2 years of pandemic. I didn't give more than 7 cause what I dislike of Noel's solo is his general attitude of I don't give a fuck, we know how he is but still, I wish he was more ambitious and yes, nicer. |
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Post by supertronic on Jun 29, 2022 12:29:38 GMT -5
Everybody's On the Run
Dream On
If I Had A Gun
Death Of You and Me
Record Machine
What A Life
Soldier Boys and Jesus Freaks
Broken Arrow
The Wrong Beach
Stop The Clocks
A Simple Game of Genius
Let The Lord Shine A Light On Me
I'd Pick You Every Time
The Good Rebel
Shoot A Hole In To The Sun
Just Let It Come Down Over Me
She Must Be One Of Us
Oh Lord
Riverman
In The Heat Of The Moment
Girl With The X-Ray Eyes
Lock All The Doors
The Dying Of The Light
The Right Stuff
While The Song Remains The Same
The Mexican
You Know We Can't Go Back
The Ballad Of The Mighty I
Revolution Song
Here's A Candle For Your Birthday Cake
Leave My Guitar Alone
Do The Damage
Fort Knox
Holy Mountain
Keep On Reaching
It's A Beautiful World
She Taught Me How To Fly
Be Careful What You Wish For
Black And White Sunshine
Wednesday
Love Is The Law
The Man Who Built The Moon
Dead In The Water
Alone On The Rope
God Help Us All
Black Star Dancing
Rattling Rose
Sail On
This Is The Place
A Dream Is All I Need To Get By
Evil Flower
Blue Moon Rising
Wandering Star
Come On Outside
(Don't Stop)
We're On Our Way Now
Flying On The Ground
Very happy...
Very happy indeed.
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Post by garylineker on Jun 29, 2022 17:32:54 GMT -5
First 2 albums are easily stronger in terms of quality track by track. Production wise each album got better as Noel started to become more adventurous musically but that hasn't correlated in quality of music at times. The lowest point in terms of quality was the EPs because bar Sail On and A Dream Is All I Need To Get By which are class, the rest sonded too much like the Holmes approach of being more interested in showing everyone you've changed things up musically than the actual overall quality of the song.
I have a great feeling his next album will be very strong and draw from all the influences he's had, but absolutely no doubt the reaction to certain songs off the last album has hurt him and he has listened.
Overall there is about 20 very strong songs and what's most impressive is they are scattered throughout, with most recently Flying On The Ground. That suggest he's not sowing any signs of losing it and the fact he has his own studio will hopefully give us much more productivity than we are used to. Dare i say it for the fist time since he went Solo he will suddenly have something to prove again. Don't get me wrong he hasn't failed in any way, but i think things have stagnated a bit. He will want to show everyone what he's capable of again.
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Post by Gas Panic on Jun 30, 2022 2:10:41 GMT -5
Everybody's On the Run Dream On If I Had A Gun Death Of You and Me Record Machine What A Life Soldier Boys and Jesus Freaks Broken Arrow The Wrong Beach Stop The Clocks A Simple Game of Genius Let The Lord Shine A Light On Me I'd Pick You Every Time The Good Rebel Shoot A Hole In To The Sun Just Let It Come Down Over Me She Must Be One Of Us Oh Lord Riverman In The Heat Of The Moment Girl With The X-Ray Eyes Lock All The Doors The Dying Of The Light The Right Stuff While The Song Remains The Same The Mexican You Know We Can't Go Back The Ballad Of The Mighty I Revolution Song Here's A Candle For Your Birthday Cake Leave My Guitar Alone Do The Damage Fort Knox Holy Mountain Keep On Reaching It's A Beautiful World She Taught Me How To Fly Be Careful What You Wish For Black And White Sunshine Wednesday Love Is The Law The Man Who Built The Moon Dead In The Water Alone On The Rope God Help Us All Black Star Dancing Rattling Rose Sail On This Is The Place A Dream Is All I Need To Get By Evil Flower Blue Moon Rising Wandering Star Come On Outside (Don't Stop) We're On Our Way Now Flying On The Ground Very happy... Very happy indeed. Alone On The Rope is HFB1 era. It got an official release in 2011/2012 via (German?) Amazon. He even played it live as far back as TCT 2013. Therefore I always place in at the end of my HFB1 playlist. |
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Post by Nyron Nosworthy on Jul 4, 2022 10:42:11 GMT -5
8/10
Before the split, my worry with a Noel solo album was that he had been limited to singing on certain types of songs with Oasis - which were always fairly good but didn't have the same punch that Supersonic, Rock 'n' Roll Star, etc had - and an album full of Noel songs would be boring.
I think this was definitely the case with the first album, NGHFB. I liked it at the time but found it quite ploddy and very 'Noel-by-numbers'. He did a much better than expected job of performing live as a frontman, but the album sounds very dated and boring to me 11 years later and I rarely listen to any of the songs on it.
Chasing Yesterday was an excellent album though. Since the latter days of Oasis, Noel has been obsessed with creating a 'sound' rather than a collection of songs and I think he really hit the mark - it sounds quite moody and you can hear the Bowie influences in it. I think he really grew into the solo frontman role around this time too and found the perfect balance between showcasing his solo work whilst padding it out with the Oasis hits.
Then WBTM came along, which has been a very confusing period. I thought there was a noticeable change in his personality and he went from having a cocky exterior but with a strong moral compass to crossing the line to actually being a bit of a dick and quite unlikeable. Musically though, it took me a long time to really get three 'cosmic pop' style, but once it clicked it sounded fresher and a step up from what he'd released previously. He changed the band up which gave a totally different dynamic and his live performances were superb. I would have given him a 9 at this point.
But since then, the EP releases were very hit and miss and it concerns me that he seems to think so highly of them because they're really not very good. We know he's always had a very high opinion of himself - justifiably so - but he talks about the likes of Black Star Dancing and Rattling Rose (for example) as if they're cutting edge when they're not.
A lot has been made of the setlist for the most recent performances, and whilst I get why he hasn't made huge changes for a very small tour in between albums, it is essentially exactly the same set as he played 3 years ago and most of the same songs that he's played for the past 5 years. He really needs to move on from WBTM.
His anti-mask/Covid/vaccine comments made him look thick as fuck and extremely ignorant and left a bit of a sour taste.
So overall I would say 8/10. Generally a very good decade for the Chief but he's let himself down at times and is in danger of starting to lose people and drift into yesterday's man status.
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Post by jh on Jul 16, 2022 14:20:40 GMT -5
Love his talent but feel of late it's a little stale / meager on the output and setlists are lazy and repetitive.
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Post by The Chief on Aug 13, 2022 8:37:42 GMT -5
I was basically going to write everything Nyron Nosworthy wrote so I'm not going to repeat it. The post was spot on about everything: the first NGHFB record, Chasing Yesterday, his new attitude after WBTM, the EPs being hit or miss, his whole anti-mask/vaccine Covid horseshit, etc. Right up until after WBTM came out, I would have voted 10. I was all in. I've always been more of a fan of Noel (which doesn't make me an anti-Liam FYI) ever since I've heard my first Oasis song in 1995. It's why I learned to play guitar and other instruments and write songs. WBTM remains one of my favorite records he's ever been involved in (yes that includes the early Oasis days). I listen to it from start to finish to this day! But after the initial reaction from his fans to the WBTM trailer, he seemed to have become really bitter and he acted like a fucking prick with his head up his ass in most interviews. He was bemoaning the reaction he received in the first months and he never became the funny cocky guy he usually was. For example, him saying that his record is the best during Hot Ones was just cringy. Then, when the EPs came out, he was saying that he was hoping his fan based would be pissed off. So to me those EPs, or at least their titular songs, were never about being artistically honest but rather to spite the people who shat on WBTM. It's all very bitter and sad because the songs aren't bad and Sail On is one of the best songs he ever wrote. Then came Covid and all the absolutely idiotic and dangerous shit he said and I now see him as an out of touch old fart who thinks he's still THE MAN. It could very much change of course but I think that rather than taking the Morrissey approach to getting old, he should take the McCartney/Ringo approach. Stay connected to reality, not to the past, evolve with evolving mentalities, stay opened and put love at the center of everything. It's cheesy but to me peace and love isn't just a thing you say. Take McCartney coming on stage with the Ukrainian flag for example. That to me is love. If you treat people with it, you'll understand where they're coming from instead of branding the fucking "woke" banner. I hate that word with a passion because the way he and other old farts use the word "woke" is just to discredit the evolution of society that they don't understand and want no part of... and that's when you end up with an "old man yells at clouds" mentality, which Noel has had 100% in the last years. As you can tell, I'm very much still angry at him for the past 5 years. I went to see him live in 2016 and it was one of the best concerts I've ever been to. The show was great, he was funny and joked with the crowd, it was amazing and I still have very fond memories of it. I went back in 2018 and it was the worst concert I've ever been to. He didn't speak with the crowd at all, no banter, no jokes. Just the music, some unintelligible words here and there but that was it. He didn't give a shit. I thought it was very telling of his frame of mind, which is a shame because I loved WBTM and was looking forward to hearing the songs live. But he pissed all over that feeling. Contrarily to what he thought, he's not just pissing off the "Parka Monkeys" as he put it (which I feel is very disrespectful), but his other fans too, those of us who like Noel Gallagher music and not just Oasis. And I sincerely hope that it's just a phase. As for the music, everything he's ever done has had an NG thing to it. I was never able to pinpoint what that it but I easily like anything he puts out. The first time it wasn't the case was the EPs (mission accomplished Noel). But I like the direction he seems to be taking after hearing Trying to find a world that's been and gone. It is very formulaic Noel but there's always one or two songs in each eras that is formulaic Noel, so maybe the record won't be. But I'm still already opened to everything he does so I'm pretty sure I'll love record #4. |
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Post by bigmouth22 on Aug 13, 2022 9:06:02 GMT -5
I enjoyed Noel's rants about Covid-calling Morgan a scared little germaphobe.There was enough hysteria going around in that period it was nice to see someone with a platform speaking up and sayin-hang on this is getting a bit outta fucking hand.
That siad it should be remembered Noel decided to get vaxxed on advice of his doctor and probably so he could travel.So to me he caved a bit-but then I'm in camp that thinks Ian Brown doesn't go near far enough.
You'l never hear Sir Paul utter a single unpopular or controversial opinion-that's why he'l wave a Ukraine flag rather than say a Palestinian or Isreali one.He urged people to get vaxxed adding he didnt really know much about it but we should just blindly trust it was for our good.Gee thanks but no thanks.I'm sure Lennon might have offered something a bit more thought provoking if he was around.
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Post by Jessica on Aug 13, 2022 13:19:28 GMT -5
Yeah, everyone was questioning everything in private anyway, and no one else was acknowledging that fact, just a bunch of people fighting about it shaming people the same way people have been fighting about politics since 2016 without caring about what the other people need/want.
As for his solo career so far... I've liked it all. The gigs I've been to have been great. Think there was too much time between the first album and Chasing Yesterday though. Got a good mix of things on the EPs, and WOOWN and FOTG were a nice surprise with the best of along with the extra remixes.
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Post by jeffrey on Aug 14, 2022 12:53:19 GMT -5
Yeah, everyone was questioning everything in private anyway, and no one else was acknowledging that fact, just a bunch of people fighting about it shaming people the same way people have been fighting about politics since 2016 without caring about what the other people need/want. Spot on. |
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Post by morning_rain on Aug 23, 2022 3:10:22 GMT -5
Basically I agree with everything said by The Chief and Nyron Nosworthy. Except that I actually prefer NGHFB to WBTM. NGHFB is in my opinion his best collection of songs since the glory days of Oasis. It has been said before and in better ways, but I feel like everything changed in the WBTM era. Also the way he spoke about that album as it was some sort of experimental weird new sound or how he spoke on every interview about the scissor player girl made him look quite ignorant. These days I'm trying to separate the artist from the music when it comes down to Noel. Which is strange because Liam and Noel as characters are one of the main reasons I became an Oasis fan in the first place. I think Noel is a clever man and he knows how to play the game, so this grumpy old man phase could still change for the next album cycle. Still his career is 8/10 for me. Loved the two first albums. And while WBTM and the EPs have been a bit hit or miss the good songs are really good ones: Dead in the water, Keep on Reaching, A Dream Is All I Need To Get By, Rattling Rose, Sail On, Flying on the Ground, Come On Outside... |
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Post by oasisserbia on Aug 29, 2022 4:27:13 GMT -5
It is ok, but he failed to prove that he is genius still.
He lead indie band to become biggest band in the world without playing the game, only with their music and attitude.
Commercially, Oasis were there with U2, RHCP, Guns N' Roses... they easily won battle against Verve, Happy Mondays, Stone Roses...
And they fucking deserved it, commercial success did mean something then and it was proof of their quality.
Noel as solo artist is not there with Sting, Lou Reed, Lennon, McCartney, Harrison, Phil Collins, Iggy Pop, George Michael, Paul Simon, Eric Clapton, Morrissey... some of those guys deserved it with quality of their music, some of them with other stuff, but those guys made it solo after they left their bands.
Noel is in Championship again and he doesn't deserve to be in Premier League tbh, it is not like it is unfair, his music isn't that good and he is not interesting live act or great singer or guitarist or anything. He didn't have huge single or singles, big hit, he didn't have universally great album.
So, not great not terrible.
7/10 is reality.
My personal opinion is 8/10.
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