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Post by Deleted on Jun 10, 2021 14:19:15 GMT -5
Why is Noel doing "exclusive" interviews with The Sun?
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Post by His Royal Noelness on Jun 10, 2021 14:20:12 GMT -5
Why is Noel doing "exclusive" interviews with The Sun? He has a record out tomorrow.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 10, 2021 15:31:23 GMT -5
You must not know the history of The Sun newspaper. Noel does not need to do an interview with "the scum". Sad to see what's become of him these days.
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Post by cosmos on Jun 10, 2021 15:48:26 GMT -5
Noel Gallagher in the Sun giving an exclusive interview? F* hell, he must be desperate for attention or back in drugs. This is probably one of most stupid decisions he has ever made regarding a promotional campaign.
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Post by NYR on Jun 10, 2021 23:01:32 GMT -5
Noel should be the last person on the planet having a go at Harry for publicly criticizing William. Because Noel's world famous for having such a great relationship with his brother, who he has never publicly criticized.
I get that he always talks a load of shite to promote his music, but he desperately needs to have a fucking word with himself and stop talking like a god damned Tory while giving interviews to the S*n.
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Post by thomaslivesforever on Jun 11, 2021 3:53:03 GMT -5
Why is Noel doing "exclusive" interviews with The Sun? He has a record out tomorrow. He doesn't have to do one for them tbf.
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Post by dampcottage on Jun 11, 2021 4:03:20 GMT -5
He has a record out tomorrow. He doesn't have to do one for them tbf. Your right he doesn't have to, but it is the second biggest selling daily newspaper in the UK
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Post by Deleted on Jun 11, 2021 4:05:17 GMT -5
I saw this trending on twitter, probably because of Noel's interview. (Ignore the thing about Noel being 'thick as pigshit' because he obviously isn't, but he does say stupid things at times.)
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Post by bt95 on Jun 11, 2021 6:01:51 GMT -5
You must not know the history of The Sun newspaper. Noel does not need to do an interview with "the scum". Sad to see what's become of him these days. He's not a scouser or a Liverpool fan. I'm a freelance journalist. Have not worked for the S*n but have sold work to them - they pay well. It's one of, if not, the biggest papers in Britain, like it or not. Noel will not have gone and booked himself in. It'll be management. Should he have said no? Maybe, in an ideal world, yes. But he's got an album to promote and he's on the front cover of one of the biggest papers in the country. Some people on the internet getting wound up because of some idea that anybody involved with that paper is evil aren't going to stop him.
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Post by bt95 on Jun 11, 2021 6:03:59 GMT -5
Noel should be the last person on the planet having a go at Harry for publicly criticizing William. Because Noel's world famous for having such a great relationship with his brother, who he has never publicly criticized. I get that he always talks a load of shite to promote his music, but he desperately needs to have a fu cking word with himself and stop talking like a god damned Tory while giving interviews to the S*n. He was asked a question and gave a typically vociferous answer which is easy to turn into a headline. There's a reason he's still used by the press for this exact same thing. They wouldn't have asked Weller about it, and if they had, whatever he said wouldn't have been used to help shift papers. This is the same bloke (Noel) that wished aids upon people. Liam said a pilot deserved stabbing. I don't get why, 20+ years later, we're surprised when they say dickish things. Also, why does it make him sound like a Tory? Did you see what he said about the government on the doc last night, did you see what he said the other day about Johnson? It's easy to twist a narrative and form an opinion if you ignore other stuff. He's a multi-millionaire 54-year-old. I don't doubt he's more stuck in his ways and more conservative than he was, but let's face it, he was always pretty centrist. He's never been a freedom fighter, he was all about success and money because they came from nothing and wanted it all. He didn't have the scrutiny that someone like George Michael did from a young age. He just wanted to take it all and do it all and let's face it he did, and so did Liam and the rest of the band, in emphatic fashion.
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Post by NYR on Jun 11, 2021 8:21:58 GMT -5
Noel should be the last person on the planet having a go at Harry for publicly criticizing William. Because Noel's world famous for having such a great relationship with his brother, who he has never publicly criticized. I get that he always talks a load of shite to promote his music, but he desperately needs to have a fu cking word with himself and stop talking like a god damned Tory while giving interviews to the S*n. He was asked a question and gave a typically vociferous answer which is easy to turn into a headline. There's a reason he's still used by the press for this exact same thing. They wouldn't have asked Weller about it, and if they had, whatever he said wouldn't have been used to help shift papers. This is the same bloke (Noel) that wished aids upon people. Liam said a pilot deserved stabbing. I don't get why, 20+ years later, we're surprised when they say dickish things. Also, why does it make him sound like a Tory? Did you see what he said about the government on the doc last night, did you see what he said the other day about Johnson? It's easy to twist a narrative and form an opinion if you ignore other stuff. He's a multi-millionaire 54-year-old. I don't doubt he's more stuck in his ways and more conservative than he was, but let's face it, he was always pretty centrist. He's never been a freedom fighter, he was all about success and money because they came from nothing and wanted it all. He didn't have the scrutiny that someone like George Michael did from a young age. He just wanted to take it all and do it all and let's face it he did, and so did Liam and the rest of the band, in emphatic fashion. Since you mentioned being a freelance journalist, I may as well tell you that I have worked in print and online magazines in multiple capacities (including editing and production) since 2005 and can today with absolute certainty that you can turn down jobs and/or interview requests with any publication or outlet for any reason. Being turned down for interview requests happens all the time, as do refusals to comment. Sure, he loves the attention, but it’s pretty disingenuous to pretend like Noel is powerless here. Also, comparing the Noel from 1995 to the Noel of today sets the lowest of bars. He’s in his fifties. You’d expect him to know better than to wish AIDS on other people by now, and to know that his words carry a lot of weight to many. And yes, shitting on Harry and Meghan in The S*n while using loaded words like “woke” and “snowflake” comes straight out of the Tory playbook. If you had told me that quote was made by Piers Morgan, I would have believed you. That’s not centrist talk.
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Post by 0as1s on Jun 11, 2021 8:45:42 GMT -5
I doubt Noel gives a flying f*ck about what Twitter says his political persuasion is.
I wouldn't read The Sun in a million years and certainly won't be buying a copy off the back of this interview, but of all the daft sh*t Noel Gallagher says or does, this is definitely storm in a teacup territory. I think some people think that Twitter's view = the world's view when in reality the opposite is often the case.
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Post by matt on Jun 11, 2021 8:54:59 GMT -5
You must not know the history of The Sun newspaper. Noel does not need to do an interview with "the scum". Sad to see what's become of him these days. He's not a scouser or a Liverpool fan.
I'm a freelance journalist. Have not worked for the S*n but have sold work to them - they pay well. It's one of, if not, the biggest papers in Britain, like it or not. Noel will not have gone and booked himself in. It'll be management. Should he have said no? Maybe, in an ideal world, yes. But he's got an album to promote and he's on the front cover of one of the biggest papers in the country. Some people on the internet getting wound up because of some idea that anybody involved with that paper is evil aren't going to stop him. Didn't know you just had to be a scouser or Liverpool fan to have a vitriolic reaction to their Hillsborough coverage... And there's your problem, thinking it's something that is just tribal and sub sections of folk who should be offended when the reality is this paper does everything to debase humanity and is one that should be universally panned. Hillsborough is just the tip of the iceberg when it comes to how toxic that paper is but it is a good case study that encompasses the hatred that paper spews. This is also a paper that hacked the phone of a murdered school girl too (News of the World, which was The Sun weekend paper so that's just semantics) - and yet here we are with fucking tools like Noel propagating that. Everyone and everything associated with The Scum is what is wrong with today's world. And for Noel to associate himself with it, and having previous incidents of leaking bile to that horrible paper, makes him a grade A c*nt. The George Michael quote above is spot on, bless him. Noel is an idiot, and hearing that 'hid behind who he was' slander is appalling in today's context (there's no way he could get away from saying that these days). That's the thought level of a Scum reader right there so it's not a surprise he's pally with them. It's horrible when I love his music, and still do, but the guy can go fucking swivel.
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Post by cosmos on Jun 11, 2021 9:35:54 GMT -5
You must not know the history of The Sun newspaper. Noel does not need to do an interview with "the scum". Sad to see what's become of him these days. He's not a scouser or a Liverpool fan. I'm a freelance journalist. Have not worked for the S*n but have sold work to them - they pay well. It's one of, if not, the biggest papers in Britain, like it or not. Noel will not have gone and booked himself in. It'll be management. Should he have said no? Maybe, in an ideal world, yes. But he's got an album to promote and he's on the front cover of one of the biggest papers in the country. Some people on the internet getting wound up because of some idea that anybody involved with that paper is evil aren't going to stop him. 1. A freelance journalist who has to sell his work to The Sun is a poor journalist, in all the multiple senses behind the word poor. They pay well, maybe, but in journalism there is something call ethics and where hunger and bills are bigger than anything else, you end up forgetting how rotten the company you are selling your work is. Don't come here telling us "like it or not". First check where you stand before you justify a truly stupid decision like giving an "exclusive" interview to the Sun. 2. Some people on the internet? If NG has managed to do something well over the last years is to alienate a large portion of his long time fanbase. Using words like "woke" and discussing the royals is nothing but a huge disappointment from someone who once heralded the working class youth.
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Post by beentherenow on Jun 11, 2021 9:48:51 GMT -5
Noel has gone down massively in my estimation, so much so I will not go see him live again nor am I interested in anything he has to say or is up to,
Doing an exclusive front page interview for The Scum is as low as it can possibly get. I am not a Scouser or a Liverpool fan but I know the difference between right and wrong and so should he. He’s in a band with scousers and has spoken in the past about Thatchers government being held accountable for Hillsborough and then does this.
Honestly fuck off Noel and anyone claiming he wouldn’t know where it would go is either naive or blinded by loyalty
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Post by bt95 on Jun 11, 2021 9:54:15 GMT -5
He was asked a question and gave a typically vociferous answer which is easy to turn into a headline. There's a reason he's still used by the press for this exact same thing. They wouldn't have asked Weller about it, and if they had, whatever he said wouldn't have been used to help shift papers. This is the same bloke (Noel) that wished aids upon people. Liam said a pilot deserved stabbing. I don't get why, 20+ years later, we're surprised when they say dickish things. Also, why does it make him sound like a Tory? Did you see what he said about the government on the doc last night, did you see what he said the other day about Johnson? It's easy to twist a narrative and form an opinion if you ignore other stuff. He's a multi-millionaire 54-year-old. I don't doubt he's more stuck in his ways and more conservative than he was, but let's face it, he was always pretty centrist. He's never been a freedom fighter, he was all about success and money because they came from nothing and wanted it all. He didn't have the scrutiny that someone like George Michael did from a young age. He just wanted to take it all and do it all and let's face it he did, and so did Liam and the rest of the band, in emphatic fashion. Since you mentioned being a freelance journalist, I may as well tell you that I have worked in print and online magazines in multiple capacities (including editing and production) since 2005 and can today with absolute certainty that you can turn down jobs and/or interview requests with any publication or outlet for any reason. Being turned down for interview requests happens all the time, as do refusals to comment. Sure, he loves the attention, but it’s pretty disingenuous to pretend like Noel is powerless here. Also, comparing the Noel from 1995 to the Noel of today sets the lowest of bars. He’s in his fifties. You’d expect him to know better than to wish AIDS on other people by now, and to know that his words carry a lot of weight to many. And yes, shitting on Harry and Meghan in The S*n while using loaded words like “woke” and “snowflake” comes straight out of the Tory playbook. If you had told me that quote was made by Piers Morgan, I would have believed you. That’s not centrist talk. Oh I'm not saying he couldn't turn it down and, personally, I would have preferred him to. I don't buy the S*n, haven't read it in years, try not to even go on their site unless I absolutely must do for work reasons. Like I said, I sold a couple of pieces to them a few years back and wasn't even arsed about the byline. Wanted the money, needed the money. I didn't mean to say that Noel was powerless, he's ultimately made the decision to give them an interview. I don't agree with it, but it doesn't make him a bad person. He's also said he wants to do another Oasis acoustic tour, in said interview (read via NME) - are we to ignore that cause it was in the interview with this rag? I would expect him to be more mature, but i don't think calling a Prince a snowflake (and bloody hell I couldn't care less either way about the RF but he does appear to be pretty bloody wet) is as bad in comparison to things he said even 10 years ago, never mind the AIDS comment. Harry and Meghan said they didn't want publicity and then went on Oprah. So from that sense,it's hypocritical. Loads of people have that viewpoint - my parents being some of them, and they aren't fond of the RF or Tories either.
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Post by bt95 on Jun 11, 2021 9:56:24 GMT -5
Noel has gone down massively in my estimation, so much so I will not go see him live again nor am I interested in anything he has to say or is up to, Doing an exclusive front page interview for The Scum is as low as it can possibly get. I am not a Scouser or a Liverpool fan but I know the difference between right and wrong and so should he. He’s in a band with scousers and has spoken in the past about Thatchers government being held accountable for Hillsborough and then does this. Honestly fuck off Noel and anyone claiming he wouldn’t know where it would go is either naive or blinded by loyalty This is my point. You've seen him and Liam plenty of times I guess, and these are people that at the start of, and during, their careers have said some horrendous things. You're willing to forgive the AIDS comment. Yeah it was fine for Liam to say 'some panhead who needs stabbing'. You're willing to forget all the horrid stuff they said in the 2000s? Yet doing an interview with the S*n is what breaks it for you? I can't do with double standards.
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Post by bt95 on Jun 11, 2021 10:00:56 GMT -5
He's not a scouser or a Liverpool fan.
I'm a freelance journalist. Have not worked for the S*n but have sold work to them - they pay well. It's one of, if not, the biggest papers in Britain, like it or not. Noel will not have gone and booked himself in. It'll be management. Should he have said no? Maybe, in an ideal world, yes. But he's got an album to promote and he's on the front cover of one of the biggest papers in the country. Some people on the internet getting wound up because of some idea that anybody involved with that paper is evil aren't going to stop him. Didn't know you just had to be a scouser or Liverpool fan to have a vitriolic reaction to their Hillsborough coverage... And there's your problem, thinking it's something that is just tribal and sub sections of folk who should be offended when the reality is this paper does everything to debase humanity and is one that should be universally panned. Hillsborough is just the tip of the iceberg when it comes to how toxic that paper is but it is a good case study that encompasses the hatred that paper spews. This is also a paper that hacked the phone of a murdered school girl too (News of the World, which was The Sun weekend paper so that's just semantics) - and yet here we are with fucking tools like Noel propagating that. Everyone and everything associated with The Scum is what is wrong with today's world. And for Noel to associate himself with it, and having previous incidents of leaking bile to that horrible paper, makes him a grade A c*nt. The George Michael quote above is spot on, bless him. Noel is an idiot, and hearing that 'hid behind who he was' slander is appalling in today's context (there's no way he could get away from saying that these days). That's the thought level of a Scum reader right there so it's not a surprise he's pally with them. It's horrible when I love his music, and still do, but the guy can go fucking swivel. You don't have to be. As I said, I don't like the paper. I would rather of him not go and do it, but he's done it. I don't think it's the most evil thing in the world. I don't think it's the worst thing he has done. I've listed things which I think Noel has said which were far worse than doing an interview with the paper. So I'm not having that a bloke we've all loved for the last however many years, who in his late 20s wished AIDS on members of another band, is suddenly tipping over the egde cause he's done an interview with the UK's biggest paper (or one of them). Do I like it? No. But like I said, he's done worse, and so has Liam, and we've all shrugged it off. Why's there a difference now?
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Post by bt95 on Jun 11, 2021 10:06:31 GMT -5
He's not a scouser or a Liverpool fan. I'm a freelance journalist. Have not worked for the S*n but have sold work to them - they pay well. It's one of, if not, the biggest papers in Britain, like it or not. Noel will not have gone and booked himself in. It'll be management. Should he have said no? Maybe, in an ideal world, yes. But he's got an album to promote and he's on the front cover of one of the biggest papers in the country. Some people on the internet getting wound up because of some idea that anybody involved with that paper is evil aren't going to stop him. 1. A freelance journalist who has to sell his work to The Sun is a poor journalist, in all the multiple senses behind the word poor. They pay well, maybe, but in journalism there is something call ethics and where hunger and bills are bigger than anything else, you end up forgetting how rotten the company you are selling your work is. Don't come here telling us "like it or not". First check where you stand before you justify a truly stupid decision like giving an "exclusive" interview to the Sun. 2. Some people on the internet? If NG has managed to do something well over the last years is to alienate a large portion of his long time fanbase. Using words like "woke" and discussing the royals is nothing but a huge disappointment from someone who once heralded the working class youth. I'm a sports reporter. When I was 20 and just coming out of my course, I was trying to find my feet. I got some articles (two, IIRC) in the biggest paper in the country. What were you doing when you were 20? And yes, I got some much-needed cash. I'm now 26, I've gone on to interview Tyson Fury and Deontay Wilder just before the pandemic, recently just sat down with Aaron Ramsey, and worked for everything off my own back so thanks for telling me I'm crap at my job. I don't really have much of an opinon on H+M other than i think they came across as a bit hypocrticial. I actually don't doubt what they said about the Royal Family. The 'working class youth' aren't the woke ones though.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 11, 2021 10:08:24 GMT -5
I don't understand why some fans defend every stupid thing Noel (or Liam) say. It's ok to criticise them, it doesn't mean you have to go and burn your Oasis albums.
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Post by bt95 on Jun 11, 2021 10:09:33 GMT -5
I doubt Noel gives a flying f*ck about what Twitter says his political persuasion is. I wouldn't read The Sun in a million years and certainly won't be buying a copy off the back of this interview, but of all the daft sh*t Noel Gallagher says or does, this is definitely storm in a teacup territory. I think some people think that Twitter's view = the world's view when in reality the opposite is often the case. This. I can't be having the double standards. If you can be okay with the guy wishing AIDS on someone, but then get riled up that he did an interview with this paper, then I think that says more about you than him. He's a bit of a prick, he always has been, and all he'll probably see from this - or his management at least - is loads of publicity for a new record. Should he crave or want that at this stage? Probably not, but it is what it is.
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Post by bt95 on Jun 11, 2021 10:11:42 GMT -5
I don't understand why some fans defend every stupid thing Noel (or Liam) say. It's ok to criticise them, it doesn't mean you have to go and burn your Oasis albums. I'm not trying to defend it - I don't want him doing an interview with the S*n. I just don't get that this is something which is worse than other things he has done. And if people are thinking it is then I really question where their random moral line comes from. To your second point though, there is someone who has said they will literally never go and see NG again now, because he did an interview with this paper.
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Post by walterglass on Jun 11, 2021 10:14:48 GMT -5
I am also team William.
I am not team The Scum.
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Post by defmaybe00 on Jun 11, 2021 10:16:30 GMT -5
I don't understand why some fans defend every stupid thing Noel (or Liam) say. It's ok to criticise them, it doesn't mean you have to go and burn your Oasis albums. To be honest, I think it's more to do with what seems to be an overreaction I don't like him getting a shitload of money to do an interview with The S*n, but I don't believe anyone ever associated with it is a horrible human being as I've been reading the last couple of days But then I'm not british, so it may be just that
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Post by cosmos on Jun 11, 2021 10:21:27 GMT -5
1. A freelance journalist who has to sell his work to The Sun is a poor journalist, in all the multiple senses behind the word poor. They pay well, maybe, but in journalism there is something call ethics and where hunger and bills are bigger than anything else, you end up forgetting how rotten the company you are selling your work is. Don't come here telling us "like it or not". First check where you stand before you justify a truly stupid decision like giving an "exclusive" interview to the Sun. 2. Some people on the internet? If NG has managed to do something well over the last years is to alienate a large portion of his long time fanbase. Using words like "woke" and discussing the royals is nothing but a huge disappointment from someone who once heralded the working class youth. I'm a sports reporter. When I was 20 and just coming out of my course, I was trying to find my feet. I got some articles (two, IIRC) in the biggest paper in the country. What were you doing when you were 20? And yes, I got some much-needed cash. I'm now 26, I've gone on to interview Tyson Fury and Deontay Wilder just before the pandemic, recently just sat down with Aaron Ramsey, and worked for everything off my own back so thanks for telling me I'm crap at my job. I don't really have much of an opinon on H+M other than i think they came across as a bit hypocrticial. I actually don't doubt what they said about the Royal Family. The 'working class youth' aren't the woke ones though. 1. My bad, maybe I made it very personal. I never meant to say you were rubbish at what you do or to make fun your personal circumstances. I apologise for that. 2. But still, how can you justify a millionaire who can chose thousands of media outlets to throw shit at anything or anyone before going for the Sun? Maybe you did it out of desperation, but he did it on purpose. And maybe he did so because he wants to reach the Sun´s audience? Again, perspective my friend.
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