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Post by Deleted on Jun 24, 2021 16:03:13 GMT -5
What Sex Pistols are you talking about The manufactured punk band that relied only on hype and couldn't sing nor play their instruments... *runs & hides for cover* You can't deny their album stood the test of time. It's probably one the only british albums of the punk era that is still decently talked about and listened to by younger generations (The Clash most popular albums and songs go past the punk movement, as they included a lot of other influences). I think the playing on Never Mind The Bollocks is excellent. Actually your criticism of the band should be especially addressed to Sid Vicious, which was a big caricature of punk and rock'n'roll music as a whole imo
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Post by asimarx on Jun 24, 2021 16:05:52 GMT -5
liam could have sung anything in like 1995 and made it sound rock n roll. So true.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 24, 2021 16:19:07 GMT -5
Coming back on the initial subject, I think the problem is to assume Oasis with Noel as the lead singer was going to sound like the band we all love just with another singer. Noel would have probably took another road if Liam never started The Rain, who knows if he would even ve recorded an album. I think his melody writing was oustanding though, so he could have found a good singer and probably have a decent career, but obviously it would never have had the success of Oasis for many reasons.
Also I wouldn't define Oasis as purely "rock'n'roll". I'd say their aesthetic was closer to accessible indie rock.
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Post by girllikeabomb on Jun 24, 2021 16:23:49 GMT -5
The manufactured punk band that relied only on hype and couldn't sing nor play their instruments... *runs & hides for cover* You can't deny their album stood the test of time. It's probably one the only british albums of the punk era that is still decently talked about and listened to by younger generations (The Clash most popular albums and songs go past the punk movement, as they included a lot of other influences). I think the playing on Never Mind The Bollocks is excellent. Actually your criticism of the band should be especially addressed to Sid Vicious, which was a big caricature of punk and rock'n'roll music as a whole imo This argument is actually exactly why The Sex Pistols existed. The pure spirit of rock and roll was never in the main about virtuosity. It lost its way in the late 70s and the whole energy of fast youth, revolution and rebellion started fading away. The Sex Pistols (with others but their effect can’t be overstated) reawakened it in a way that hadn't been done before. Regardless of what anyone thinks of them, and the whole point was they didn't a f---, they changed the cultural scene with just a single album. Few people will ever do that.
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Post by His Royal Noelness on Jun 24, 2021 16:51:57 GMT -5
What Sex Pistols are you talking about The manufactured punk band that relied only on hype and couldn't sing nor play their instruments... *runs & hides for cover* The guitarist, drummer, and original bass player were all well able to play their instruments. The Sex Pistols definitely had a better drummer and bass player than early oasis for sure. They didn’t have a singer as good as Liam or a song writer as good as Noel of course. Sid Vicious wasn’t able to play bass though.
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Post by defmaybe00 on Jun 24, 2021 17:55:40 GMT -5
What Sex Pistols are you talking about The manufactured punk band that relied only on hype and couldn't sing nor play their instruments... *runs & hides for cover* Can't have this Never Mind The Bollocks is a classic and behind the whole punk facade lie cool riffs, some great lyrics and also some catchy af melodies
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Post by settingson on Jun 24, 2021 18:17:07 GMT -5
girllikeabomb -good to hear of another "massive" fan of The Jam here. That's where it all started for me, back in '79. God, I'm old! I'm no Oasis expert - just love the music and that yin/yang that you mention. That's what makes them special for me.
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Post by girllikeabomb on Jun 24, 2021 22:13:36 GMT -5
girllikeabomb -good to hear of another "massive" fan of The Jam here. That's where it all started for me, back in '79. God, I'm old! I'm no Oasis expert - just love the music and that yin/yang that you mention. That's what makes them special for me. I'm old, too, haha, or at least contemporary to the Gallaghers (there, that sounds a little better!) Did you ever see The Jam settingson ? Also, Setting Sons is my favorite Jam album. I still have an original vinyl pressing, a prized possession.
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Post by settingson on Jun 24, 2021 22:38:21 GMT -5
Yes @girlikeabomb I got to see them at the end in 1982. I'd been fanatical about them since '79 but my parents didn't have the interest in music or necessary finances for me to get to see them before.
I love the All Mod Cons - Setting Sons - Sound Affects trilogy. It won't be a popular opinion here, but that's my pick for the best ever trilogy by a British band! If I absolutely had to pick one favourite, then it would be All Mod Cons, because it was my first!
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Post by girllikeabomb on Jun 25, 2021 2:54:23 GMT -5
Yes @girlikeabomb I got to see them at the end in 1982. I'd been fanatical about them since '79 but my parents didn't have the interest in music or necessary finances for me to get to see them before. I love the All Mod Cons - Setting Sons - Sound Affects trilogy. It won't be a popular opinion here, but that's my pick for the best ever trilogy by a British band! If I absolutely had to pick one favourite, then it would be All Mod Cons, because it was my first! Super jealous. Seen Weller solo many times but never got to see The Jam … although an ex of mine lost part of his hearing standing too close to the stage seeing The Jam, so maybe I saved my young ears for future shows. Nah, I still wish I’d seen them!
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