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Post by girllikeabomb on Apr 18, 2021 19:33:11 GMT -5
i hear you. however, it seems extremely likely that the vaccine will be pushed and pushed and pushed, and these domestic vaccine passports (international travel and its already existing requirements notwithstanding) will make it impossible to participate in society - events, concerts, probably moving into stores, restaurants and other essentials - without proof of vaccination. we are already seeing the stepping stones being put into place. it is unfortunate that this virus did become politicized like no other has. but the world leaders have taken this very real situation (i'm not one of these covid deniers by any means lol) and begun to use it as an excuse to exercise control and test compliance and complacency. the politicization was by those in charge. the fear mongering was by those in charge. the rest of us are just trying to live our lives and watching this unreal dystopia unfold in front of us. i won't be participating. we are not receiving the whole truth, as we never do from mass media and from those in charge. i trust my gut more than i trust my government. and they tell us now that we must be vaccinated, but vaccination does not prevent us from spreading or contracting the virus, so we must continue to live in fear. we are being played. Appreciate you listening. I get the lack of trust, I really, really do. It is warranted, but I think a lot of the fears surrounding the virus are misplaced and have more to do with other really bad things that are happening in the world--especially power/money increasingly in the hands of a very few--that are a lot harder to fix than a virus. The science is pretty clear on why the vaccine is necessary. In Israel, where they have had strong protocols and high vaccination rates, the virus is very quickly now on its way out. They are opening things up to full concerts and unrestricted sports again, when a few months ago people were losing their grandparents, parents and spouses. I personally can't f-ing wait till we are also there in US/UK/Europe. Vaccination DOES help prevent you from spreading or contracting the virus. It isn't perfect, though. That's why at a time when there are still lots of unvaccinated people there still needs to be caution. But vaccines can turn this thing around. Not everybody has to get one, but a lot of people do (most people) or it won't work for any of us. The main thing is that a virus that isn't spreading isn't mutating. If covid mutates into a variation that kills young people and escapes the vaccines we have, the dystopian times ahead will be far worse than anything imagined. So my thing is let's not let that happen (because it truly can, without any need for governments to be involved). There's no need for it when we have a really amazing solution.
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Post by globe on Apr 19, 2021 13:53:31 GMT -5
Really doubt you’re going to be ostracized by society. You likely won’t be able to travel certain places or work in certain fields (for example, movie sets) and you may endanger others as part of a group that is (however unwittingly) allowing the virus to mutate into more dangerous forms. But that’s it. Many countries already require vaccinations for various diseases, so it's not really a change. There’s lots of truly extreme and heinous oppression in this world– and lots of great reasons to go off-grid and join a commune – but this is just a deadly virus that can thankfully be prevented from causing any more mass death, like many such viruses in human history. Covid sadly got politicized as no other virus has, but it’s still just a virus that gives f**k all about humans or our societies. All it wants to do is win, like all viruses do. i hear you. however, it seems extremely likely that the vaccine will be pushed and pushed and pushed, and these domestic vaccine passports (international travel and its already existing requirements notwithstanding) will make it impossible to participate in society - events, concerts, probably moving into stores, restaurants and other essentials - without proof of vaccination. we are already seeing the stepping stones being put into place. it is unfortunate that this virus did become politicized like no other has. but the world leaders have taken this very real situation (i'm not one of these covid deniers by any means lol) and begun to use it as an excuse to exercise control and test compliance and complacency. the politicization was by those in charge. the fear mongering was by those in charge. the rest of us are just trying to live our lives and watching this unreal dystopia unfold in front of us. i won't be participating. we are not receiving the whole truth, as we never do from mass media and from those in charge. i trust my gut more than i trust my government. and they tell us now that we must be vaccinated, but vaccination does not prevent us from spreading or contracting the virus, so we must continue to live in fear. we are being played. So without the majority of people on earth having a vaccine, what would your plan be for making sure hospitals are not overwhelmed by people with covid?
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Post by Marissa on Apr 19, 2021 19:45:54 GMT -5
i hear you. however, it seems extremely likely that the vaccine will be pushed and pushed and pushed, and these domestic vaccine passports (international travel and its already existing requirements notwithstanding) will make it impossible to participate in society - events, concerts, probably moving into stores, restaurants and other essentials - without proof of vaccination. we are already seeing the stepping stones being put into place. it is unfortunate that this virus did become politicized like no other has. but the world leaders have taken this very real situation (i'm not one of these covid deniers by any means lol) and begun to use it as an excuse to exercise control and test compliance and complacency. the politicization was by those in charge. the fear mongering was by those in charge. the rest of us are just trying to live our lives and watching this unreal dystopia unfold in front of us. i won't be participating. we are not receiving the whole truth, as we never do from mass media and from those in charge. i trust my gut more than i trust my government. and they tell us now that we must be vaccinated, but vaccination does not prevent us from spreading or contracting the virus, so we must continue to live in fear. we are being played. So without the majority of people on earth having a vaccine, what would your plan be for making sure hospitals are not overwhelmed by people with covid? my goal is to open minds. eat fruits and vegetables. get your antioxidants. get out of the house, exercise, get your vitamin D (there's been a significant correlation between vitamin D deficiency and severe covid cases). drink more water. get fresh air. don't eat sugar or processed foods. stay away from poisons like alcohol and drugs. feel into your connection to your body. meditate. unplug. choose to live in a reality where you are healthy. fear makes us sick. shutting ourselves indoors makes us sick. disconnecting from the earth makes us sick. write off the hippie if you so choose... we all will heal in our own way, once we make the decision to do so.
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Post by globe on Apr 20, 2021 2:14:55 GMT -5
So without the majority of people on earth having a vaccine, what would your plan be for making sure hospitals are not overwhelmed by people with covid? my goal is to open minds. eat fruits and vegetables. get your antioxidants. get out of the house, exercise, get your vitamin D (there's been a significant correlation between vitamin D deficiency and severe covid cases). drink more water. get fresh air. don't eat sugar or processed foods. stay away from poisons like alcohol and drugs. feel into your connection to your body. meditate. unplug. choose to live in a reality where you are healthy. fear makes us sick. shutting ourselves indoors makes us sick. disconnecting from the earth makes us sick. write off the hippie if you so choose... we all will heal in our own way, once we make the decision to do so. I wouldn’t right you off as a hippie, but what you are saying just doesn’t add up. Those things you mention- would they also protect you against tuberculosis? Mumps? Rubella? Polio?
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Post by girllikeabomb on Apr 20, 2021 3:25:27 GMT -5
my goal is to open minds. eat fruits and vegetables. get your antioxidants. get out of the house, exercise, get your vitamin D (there's been a significant correlation between vitamin D deficiency and severe covid cases). drink more water. get fresh air. don't eat sugar or processed foods. stay away from poisons like alcohol and drugs. feel into your connection to your body. meditate. unplug. choose to live in a reality where you are healthy. fear makes us sick. shutting ourselves indoors makes us sick. disconnecting from the earth makes us sick. write off the hippie if you so choose... we all will heal in our own way, once we make the decision to do so. I wouldn’t right you off as a hippie, but what you are saying just doesn’t add up. Those things you mention- would they also protect you against tuberculosis? Mumps? Rubella? Polio? One of the coolest and healthiest people I ever knew – a rock climber who was beyond beautiful physically, mentally and spiritually – died of leukemia at the age of 39. Being an amazing, massively open-minded person who was deeply connected to the natural world and in the peak of health didn't matter in the end because cancer is a motherf****r, much like Covid and the diseases above. I wish it wasn’t so, because if being a fearless, loving, meditating, compassionate person saved you from death he'd still be alive.
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Post by matt on Apr 22, 2021 9:50:21 GMT -5
Mad how anti vaxxers are total zoomers on the extreme ends of ideologies, left and right. Anti-vaxxers are all idiots, just like Trump supporting tools. Not one brain cell between them but then again, that's why they're in the sorry situation of their sad pathetic lives, blaming everyone but themselves about the situations they're in and refusing to take responsibility. That's the real pandemic in todays modern life right there, the idiocy and incompetence of people who infringe upon other people's liberties (another flaw in their 'libertarian' ways of thinking).
As a keyworker, I've just had mine and I can confirm that I haven't grown another head or been brainwashed into buying Microsoft products.
And even if a healthy lifestyle might prevent the worst symptoms of covid (and believe me I had it in November and I like to think that being young and leading a healthy lifestyle meant I wasn't bedridden with it), not combatting it with vaccines will enable it to run riot and mutate beyond belief. Then it doesn't matter in anyway what kind of lifestyle you live because any every one will be brought down.
This really is just common sense. I mean how fucking difficult is it to think about?
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Post by mimmihopps on Apr 22, 2021 12:07:22 GMT -5
My heart and thoughts are and always will be a great friend of mine who lost his dearest dad by Covid 19 last year. I don't need to add anything.
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Post by Marissa on Apr 24, 2021 0:58:45 GMT -5
Mad how anti vaxxers are total zoomers on the extreme ends of ideologies, left and right. Anti-vaxxers are all idiots, just like Trump supporting tools. Not one brain cell between them but then again, that's why they're in the sorry situation of their sad pathetic lives, blaming everyone but themselves about the situations they're in and refusing to take responsibility. That's the real pandemic in todays modern life right there, the idiocy and incompetence of people who infringe upon other people's liberties (another flaw in their 'libertarian' ways of thinking). As a keyworker, I've just had mine and I can confirm that I haven't grown another head or been brainwashed into buying Microsoft products. And even if a healthy lifestyle might prevent the worst symptoms of covid (and believe me I had it in November and I like to think that being young and leading a healthy lifestyle meant I wasn't bedridden with it), not combatting it with vaccines will enable it to run riot and mutate beyond belief. Then it doesn't matter in anyway what kind of lifestyle you live because any every one will be brought down. This really is just common sense. I mean how fucking difficult is it to think about? I hope you'll be able to release the contempt from your heart and step out of your ego consciousness some day. My life is free and full of happiness and love. Your generalizations say more about you than they do about us.
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Post by Marissa on Apr 24, 2021 1:08:06 GMT -5
Your governments and industries profit from keeping you sick. Just sit with that.
It's in the air we breathe too. It's everything.
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Post by matt on Apr 24, 2021 6:22:13 GMT -5
Your governments and industries profit from keeping you sick. Just sit with that. It's in the air we breathe too. It's everything. The post above isn't aimed at you specifically, but listen to yourself with what you've just said there, the above is just tin foil hat conspiracy nonsense. Utterly laughable. The pharmaceuticals aren't even profiting from this, Astra-Zeneca will only be able to cover costs. And you think the NHS is profiting from this in the UK? A little bit of reading goes a long way.
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