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Post by Grenskyda on Dec 9, 2020 20:23:28 GMT -5
As much as I love Liam and his current success/vocals, does nobody else agree that we could do with something a bit different for the next album?
I’m thinking something like Dave Sitek withBE, but better songs overall.
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Post by garylineker on Dec 9, 2020 20:28:27 GMT -5
Don't mean to by cynical but it will be the current approach until the wheels fall off. To me, the thought of another WMWN attitude of singing 11 tunes written by others is still going to be exciting in the build up, but not as exciting as if he come out and said it's at least half written by him. Liam's own songs are still some of the highlights of his solo work for me, and i feel so much more of the real Liam in stuff like Greedy Soul and I've All I Need. If you know what he's been through as a person then you get those songs.
The production will just be handed to someone to sort out like these albums too. Liam will do a few takes, send it off. Done. Again, soulless but its selling.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 9, 2020 21:12:36 GMT -5
He should do a melodic techno album with CamelPhat.
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Post by World71R on Dec 10, 2020 0:16:34 GMT -5
I'd love to see him work with Kevin Parker of Tame Impala or some sort of rock songwriter and producer he can collaborate with.
Just watching Down by the River Thames, I noticed that his solo songs stuck out like sore thumbs at times for how pop they were compared to the more rocking Oasis tunes that really rock but also pop too. Someone like Kevin Parker would be able to help, or someone within the rock genre, not necessarily a big producer/writer like Greg Kurstin or Andrew Wyatt.
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Post by andymorris on Dec 10, 2020 1:08:52 GMT -5
Don't mean to by cynical but it will be the current approach until the wheels fall off. To me, the thought of another WMWN attitude of singing 11 tunes written by others is still going to be exciting in the build up, but not as exciting as if he come out and said it's at least half written by him. Liam's own songs are still some of the highlights of his solo work for me, and i feel so much more of the real Liam in stuff like Greedy Soul and I've All I Need. If you know what he's been through as a person then you get those songs. The production will just be handed to someone to sort out like these albums too. Liam will do a few takes, send it off. Done. Again, soulless but its selling. A;m.e,n What he could do too is do another couple of these disposable records and pile up his own songs in the meantime (if he's still writing...) and release one with 100% his songs.
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Post by knownoname on Dec 10, 2020 1:46:16 GMT -5
I'd love to see him work with Kevin Parker of Tame Impala or some sort of rock songwriter and producer he can collaborate with. I would find Dan Auerbach pretty interesting.
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Post by idleross on Dec 10, 2020 3:53:34 GMT -5
Seriously doubting the formula will change after 2 Number 1 Records
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Post by 2nz on Dec 10, 2020 7:53:23 GMT -5
I'm sure the thing is written and they're just waiting for him to do his vocals.
He's a cash cow for Warners- not a chance it's gonna be changed now.
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Post by themanwholivesinhell on Dec 10, 2020 8:04:34 GMT -5
Itd be cool for him to work with someone who has a good bit of rock under their belt but arent too eccentric in their style. To focus on edge, but remain accessible enough.
Maybe someone like Danger Mouse, Rick Rubin, Tony Visconti, Brendan O’Brien? Although i guess you could say hes already tried that with Steve Lillywhite in Beady Eye...
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Post by thomaslivesforever on Dec 10, 2020 8:14:23 GMT -5
Would never happen but would love to see him work with Anton Newcombe. Liam’s songwriting would be appreciated by a man who puts little stock in big choruses or 4 minute songs.
Anyone hoping for a fully Liam written album will probably be waiting a while. I don’t think it’s even to do with what Warner’s want, I think it’s just to do with the fact that Liam is not a prolific songwriter.
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Post by themanwholivesinhell on Dec 10, 2020 8:22:58 GMT -5
Would never happen but would love to see him work with Anton Newcombe. Liam’s songwriting would be appreciated by a man who puts little stock in big choruses or 4 minute songs. Anyone hoping for a fully Liam written album will probably be waiting a while. I don’t think it’s even to do with what Warner’s want, I think it’s just to do with the fact that Liam is not a prolific songwriter. No i wouldnt call him prolific. Which is why id like an album of maybe 4 or 5 songs written by him and the rest co-writes. However i do think some people are a bit presuming when it comes to writing ; in that if somethings a co-write they automatically assume Liam was given a complete song, changed a word or two and thats it. But with plenty of songs on WMWN he sounds to have led the way lyrically (NTIFY, Halo, Be Still, One of Us).
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Post by themanwholivesinhell on Dec 10, 2020 8:33:01 GMT -5
I'd love to see him work with Kevin Parker of Tame Impala or some sort of rock songwriter and producer he can collaborate with. Just watching Down by the River Thames, I noticed that his solo songs stuck out like sore thumbs at times for how pop they were compared to the more rocking Oasis tunes that really rock but also pop too. Someone like Kevin Parker would be able to help, or someone within the rock genre, not necessarily a big producer/writer like Greg Kurstin or Andrew Wyatt. The irony is that I remember when both were thought of more as experimental rock guys at first; and as their client list has gotten more diverse theyre now just known as mainstream producers. Wyatt especially, as IMO it was working with Miley Cyrus and Lady Gaga that altered his profile, which has all happened since AYW.
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Post by alwaysnow on Dec 10, 2020 9:20:24 GMT -5
I'd love to see him work with Kevin Parker of Tame Impala or some sort of rock songwriter and producer he can collaborate with. I second this, I love Tame Impala and would love to have Liam sing in more 'Doesn't Have To Be That Way' type songs. I agree the formula will probably be the same, but it would be ok to sprinkle a few songs that push the limits a little bit.
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Post by defmaybe00 on Dec 10, 2020 9:29:52 GMT -5
I'd love to see him work with Kevin Parker of Tame Impala or some sort of rock songwriter and producer he can collaborate with. Just watching Down by the River Thames, I noticed that his solo songs stuck out like sore thumbs at times for how pop they were compared to the more rocking Oasis tunes that really rock but also pop too. Someone like Kevin Parker would be able to help, or someone within the rock genre, not necessarily a big producer/writer like Greg Kurstin or Andrew Wyatt. The irony is that I remember when both were thought of more as experimental rock guys at first; and as their client list has gotten more diverse theyre now just known as mainstream producers. Wyatt especially, as IMO it was working with Miley Cyrus and Lady Gaga that altered his profile, which has all happened since AYW. There's probably more profit for them in the mainstream world, especially as they've had some great success
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Post by underneaththesky on Dec 10, 2020 9:37:04 GMT -5
SARDINE
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Post by GlastoEls on Dec 10, 2020 10:51:13 GMT -5
HADDOCK
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Post by GlastoEls on Dec 10, 2020 10:51:57 GMT -5
Don't mean to by cynical but it will be the current approach until the wheels fall off. To me, the thought of another WMWN attitude of singing 11 tunes written by others is still going to be exciting in the build up, but not as exciting as if he come out and said it's at least half written by him. Liam's own songs are still some of the highlights of his solo work for me, and i feel so much more of the real Liam in stuff like Greedy Soul and I've All I Need. If you know what he's been through as a person then you get those songs. The production will just be handed to someone to sort out like these albums too. Liam will do a few takes, send it off. Done. Again, soulless but its selling. A;m.e,n What he could do too is do another couple of these disposable records and pile up his own songs in the meantime (if he's still writing...) and release one with 100% his songs. One man’s disposable is another man’s favourite two albums in a long time!
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Post by andymorris on Dec 10, 2020 10:58:55 GMT -5
A;m.e,n What he could do too is do another couple of these disposable records and pile up his own songs in the meantime (if he's still writing...) and release one with 100% his songs. One man’s disposable is another man’s favourite two albums in a long time! That's how art works right ? I have other favorite albums from that timeframe, sorry Liam. But we're still mates. Not best friends anymore, but still very good mates.
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Post by The Escapist on Dec 10, 2020 11:53:49 GMT -5
Personally, I'd love it. The second album didn't work for me - felt like a rushed, generic, radio-rock sequel to the brilliant As You Were. I think a change of pace would be welcome and I've been banging the drum for Liam to delve back into the Madchester sound for ages. Would love to hear him over some glistening Hacienda beats and euphoric guitars. It's retro without being cliché, swaggering without being lairy, and I think his voice would suit it to a tee. Imagine Liam singing on something like this for an idea of what I mean:
But let's be clear - it isn't gonna happen. All I can hope for is that LP3 sounds a bit more crafted and has more of a recognisable Liam touch to it than the second record brought for me. More songs like One of Us certainly wouldn't go amiss; that tune was a massive bright spot on the last record and is probably my favourite thing either Gallagher has done since 2017.
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Post by garylineker on Dec 10, 2020 12:20:48 GMT -5
Would never happen but would love to see him work with Anton Newcombe. Liam’s songwriting would be appreciated by a man who puts little stock in big choruses or 4 minute songs. Anyone hoping for a fully Liam written album will probably be waiting a while. I don’t think it’s even to do with what Warner’s want, I think it’s just to do with the fact that Liam is not a prolific songwriter. No i wouldnt call him prolific. Which is why id like an album of maybe 4 or 5 songs written by him and the rest co-writes. However i do think some people are a bit presuming when it comes to writing ; in that if somethings a co-write they automatically assume Liam was given a complete song, changed a word or two and thats it. But with plenty of songs on WMWN he sounds to have led the way lyrically (NTIFY, Halo, Be Still, One of Us). I think he only did a few words for Halo, and the Verses for Why Me, Why Not. Maybe some of Once at a push.
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Post by garylineker on Dec 10, 2020 12:24:04 GMT -5
I'm wondering how much control he actually has outside letting him pick the title of the album. Even on the tracklist for WMYN, they let him pick it but then released all 14 songs on Spotify and CD/Vinyl anyway. They were 3 bonus songs but in name only, they were on virtually every format of the album.
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Post by Lennon2217 on Dec 10, 2020 12:50:15 GMT -5
I’m gonna let Liam’s team do whatever they want for LP3 because it’s all been working since his solo career launch after a very dark 2010-2016 period.
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Post by andymorris on Dec 10, 2020 12:50:16 GMT -5
No i wouldnt call him prolific. Which is why id like an album of maybe 4 or 5 songs written by him and the rest co-writes. However i do think some people are a bit presuming when it comes to writing ; in that if somethings a co-write they automatically assume Liam was given a complete song, changed a word or two and thats it. But with plenty of songs on WMWN he sounds to have led the way lyrically (NTIFY, Halo, Be Still, One of Us). I think he only did a few words for Halo, and the Verses for Why Me, Why Not. Maybe some of Once at a push. Yeah i doubt he had a lot of input besides the ones mentionned. As long as he's happy doing festivals and sing Noel's Oasis' tunes i dont see the format changing. He basically can't fail that way, since record sales dont matter much anymore to go on and that, the right week, it's not too hard to reach a good ranking. Maybe someday he'll want something else, to have a solo album that's all him. This record could have been As You Were, if Beady Eye second record never happened. He had the songs. strong record there with Gallagher only tunes (or almost): Flick Of The Finger Greedy Soul Bold Soul Love You Better Run When I'm In Need The World's Not Set In Stone Don't Brother Me (different lyrics) Shine A Light Universal Gleam I've All I Need Start Anew b sides All My People / All Mankind I Never Wanna Be Like You I Get By
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Post by Grenskyda on Dec 10, 2020 12:56:28 GMT -5
I'd love to see him work with Kevin Parker of Tame Impala or some sort of rock songwriter and producer he can collaborate with. Just watching Down by the River Thames, I noticed that his solo songs stuck out like sore thumbs at times for how pop they were compared to the more rocking Oasis tunes that really rock but also pop too. Someone like Kevin Parker would be able to help, or someone within the rock genre, not necessarily a big producer/writer like Greg Kurstin or Andrew Wyatt. Kevin Parker would be so sick. I feel like the As You Were tunes are standing the test of time better than WMWN, with the possible exception of Once. Greedy Soul is still fucking mega man.
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Post by modxxii on Dec 10, 2020 13:08:35 GMT -5
I'd like a punk album, an electronic album, a stones-ish (today I was listening to You better runc- it rocks!) album but let's face it: it never gonna happen. Liam is a loyal person (he's a dog type sentenced Noel) and he will work with the same crew. Plus: he love to be pop-ular and do big venues... I don't see he changing the seccesseful recipe.
My only worry: do better than WMWN (with the same ingredients) is almost impossible, I see it as the perfect album.
I don't give a fs of who writes what... Liam is a great singer and until the tunes are ok Im happy with it - I will nerver understand this obsession with Liam's writing (or not).
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