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Post by bt95 on Mar 15, 2020 12:08:34 GMT -5
My gut feeling is the UK gov have left it far too late for it to work. Their plan – I honestly believe looking at it from a simple pov – is a good one in general. Delay the peak by allowing a certain amount of people to become infected and spread out the strain on the NHS. So instead of a two-week peak, probably in mid-April, it's a peak of about six weeks but one which can be managed. Unfortunately it's become quickly evident that there has not been enough testing done to properly gauge where the virus is at in the UK. This talk of a peak coming in 10 weeks time seems nonsensical. That's longer ago than the first cases in China were reported. I'm pretty sure most people will get it and the vast majority will be absolutely fine. It's a very rough cold. But based on all the reading I've been doing on it the main fear is how quickly it spreads and how it can't be stopped. But it does boil down to the best way to treat it is by most people getting it and having natural immunity. Its devastating for the elderly and those with other life threatening conditions. I'd imagine people in poverty don't fare well either. Thats the main issue in my eyes. The majority of deaths from the virus are in that bracket. The things is over in the UK atm people are so ready to jump at the gov for everything (and rightly so in some cases). But in this case it's really unprecedented. There has not been a pandemic like this in generations. I know we've had scares but never something like this. So I don't really know what people expect. Like, they can't shut schools, at least not now, if the plan is for the illness to not even be peaking here for another few weeks or months. What are they gonna do, shut schools for good? And then it's all the other stuff. Life has to go on or everything will crash. You can't just shut everything down indefinitely. And this virus is going to be around in one way or the other for at least the rest of the year. So really all that can be done is get through the worst of it, which is probably gonna be in the next six weeks. Which is why I'm really hoping they don't scrap all summer festivals etc.
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Post by Lennon2217 on Mar 15, 2020 12:38:33 GMT -5
Its devastating for the elderly and those with other life threatening conditions. I'd imagine people in poverty don't fare well either. Thats the main issue in my eyes. The majority of deaths from the virus are in that bracket. The things is over in the UK atm people are so ready to jump at the gov for everything (and rightly so in some cases). But in this case it's really unprecedented. There has not been a pandemic like this in generations. I know we've had scares but never something like this. So I don't really know what people expect. Like, they can't shut schools, at least not now, if the plan is for the illness to not even be peaking here for another few weeks or months. What are they gonna do, shut schools for good? And then it's all the other stuff. Life has to go on or everything will crash. You can't just shut everything down indefinitely. And this virus is going to be around in one way or the other for at least the rest of the year. So really all that can be done is get through the worst of it, which is probably gonna be in the next six weeks. Which is why I'm really hoping they don't scrap all summer festivals etc. I doubt they happen as scheduled. Same for the Summer Olympics. Japan declared yesterday they will go on as scheduled. Good luck with that one buddy. What athletes are gonna risk going there? None.
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Post by bt95 on Mar 15, 2020 13:30:51 GMT -5
The things is over in the UK atm people are so ready to jump at the gov for everything (and rightly so in some cases). But in this case it's really unprecedented. There has not been a pandemic like this in generations. I know we've had scares but never something like this. So I don't really know what people expect. Like, they can't shut schools, at least not now, if the plan is for the illness to not even be peaking here for another few weeks or months. What are they gonna do, shut schools for good? And then it's all the other stuff. Life has to go on or everything will crash. You can't just shut everything down indefinitely. And this virus is going to be around in one way or the other for at least the rest of the year. So really all that can be done is get through the worst of it, which is probably gonna be in the next six weeks. Which is why I'm really hoping they don't scrap all summer festivals etc. I doubt they happen as scheduled. Same for the Summer Olympics. Japan declared yesterday they will go on as scheduled. Good luck with that one buddy. What athletes are gonna risk going there? None. Yeh, as I've mentioned I work in sports journalism so it's a very strange time (and worrying in terms of income). The European Championships will get pushed back from June, with some of the leagues hopefully (from my income p.o.v) being able to be finished from late April/May. But it's a punt atm.
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Post by Zingbot on Mar 15, 2020 13:40:03 GMT -5
I doubt they happen as scheduled. Same for the Summer Olympics. Japan declared yesterday they will go on as scheduled. Good luck with that one buddy. What athletes are gonna risk going there? None. Yeh, as I've mentioned I work in sports journalism so it's a very strange time (and worrying in terms of income). The European Championships will get pushed back from June, with some of the leagues hopefully (from my income p.o.v) being able to be finished from late April/May. But it's a punt atm. Sort of unrelated, but what company do you work for?
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Post by hasseg on Mar 15, 2020 13:46:38 GMT -5
I really hope that TCT is postponed and not cancelled altogether. I'd much rather have the gig to look forward to than have the £70 refunded. According to Charlotte they are cancelled, Jack. Both Apollo gigs and TCT won’t be rescheduled.
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Post by bt95 on Mar 15, 2020 13:59:08 GMT -5
Yeh, as I've mentioned I work in sports journalism so it's a very strange time (and worrying in terms of income). The European Championships will get pushed back from June, with some of the leagues hopefully (from my income p.o.v) being able to be finished from late April/May. But it's a punt atm. Sort of unrelated, but what company do you work for? A wire service called Perform (well, now Stats Perform)
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Post by bt95 on Mar 15, 2020 14:04:13 GMT -5
I really hope that TCT is postponed and not cancelled altogether. I'd much rather have the gig to look forward to than have the £70 refunded. According to Charlotte they are cancelled, Jack. Both Apollo gigs and TCT won’t be rescheduled. Hmmm. Where's that from? (I've seen her post but English isn't her first language). Do you have inside info? I'd agree it's very likely that the Apollo ones might not be rescheduled, but you'd think the charity gig could be. As i've said tbf, I'll probably have to bite the bullet and take the refund. Needs must.
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Post by hasseg on Mar 15, 2020 14:07:03 GMT -5
According to Charlotte they are cancelled, Jack. Both Apollo gigs and TCT won’t be rescheduled. Hmmm. Where's that from? (I've seen her post but English isn't her first language). Do you have inside info? I'd agree it's very likely that the Apollo ones might not be rescheduled, but you'd think the charity gig could be. As i've said tbf, I'll probably have to bite the bullet and take the refund. Needs must. Some fan asked her on the Instagram chat. And then posted it. Let me know how I upload a picture on this forum and I'll show you.
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Post by codyr on Mar 15, 2020 15:43:29 GMT -5
The Who already cancelled there gig at the Royal Albert Hall but announced that they are working on a new date. So maybe they will reschedule the shows.
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Post by hasseg on Mar 15, 2020 15:53:55 GMT -5
The Who already cancelled there gig at the Royal Albert Hall but announced that they are working on a new date. So maybe they will reschedule the shows. Not according to Charlotte.
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Post by janedoe on Mar 16, 2020 5:33:18 GMT -5
Liam's comment on this in reply to a question about The Apollo being cancelled. I'll copy it for anyone who cannot scroll through the comments on insta http://instagr.am/p/B9xFYJJoRTo "It should be ok app it’s anything over 500 cap and he’s only sold 100 tickets he he"
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Post by Gas Panic on Mar 16, 2020 6:29:54 GMT -5
All of the March gigs have now been removed from Noels website on the 'Live' page.
Not a good sign lol.
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Post by hasseg on Mar 16, 2020 8:22:07 GMT -5
All of the March gigs have now been removed from Noels website on the 'Live' page. Not a good sign lol. Can't believe they're doing that without an official statement. They removed the post on Facebook yesterday, aswell.
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Post by Gas Panic on Mar 16, 2020 8:53:36 GMT -5
All of the March gigs have now been removed from Noels website on the 'Live' page. Not a good sign lol. Can't believe they're doing that without an official statement. They removed the post on Facebook yesterday, aswell. It's very poor considering the first Manchester gig is a week tomorrow. I imagine a lot of people have already travelled to the UK from abroad, or will be about to fly. I'm £83 down on the hotel for TCT at the moment, could be worse though, at least I'm not coming from abroad like you Hampus.
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Post by bt95 on Mar 16, 2020 13:07:29 GMT -5
Can't believe they're doing that without an official statement. They removed the post on Facebook yesterday, aswell. It's very poor considering the first Manchester gig is a week tomorrow. I imagine a lot of people have already travelled to the UK from abroad, or will be about to fly. I'm £83 down on the hotel for TCT at the moment, could be worse though, at least I'm not coming from abroad like you Hampus. Only thing I could think of is they were waiting to see if there was any official government banning order today. There's also perhaps the fact that they're wanting to get dates for rescheduled gigs. But yes, I'd be expecting an official statement pronto.
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Post by hasseg on Mar 16, 2020 13:24:25 GMT -5
It's very poor considering the first Manchester gig is a week tomorrow. I imagine a lot of people have already travelled to the UK from abroad, or will be about to fly. I'm £83 down on the hotel for TCT at the moment, could be worse though, at least I'm not coming from abroad like you Hampus. Only thing I could think of is they were waiting to see if there was any official government banning order today. There's also perhaps the fact that they're wanting to get dates for rescheduled gigs. But yes, I'd be expecting an official statement pronto. From Teenage Cancer Trust’s Facebook page: ” We're aware that the latest Government advice on Coronavirus has implications for our Teenage Cancer Trust at the Royal Albert Hall shows, as well as our wider work, supporting young people with cancer. We’ll update you more tomorrow.”
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Post by coolprophet on Mar 16, 2020 15:06:36 GMT -5
Really bad management again from Noels team. They should just postpone all shows and make that official on their social media channels saying new dates announced when everything at least a bit back to normal again - something like that. Whats the problem with doing these gigs in 6 months or at a later point this year. Also offer people to keep their tickets or refund them if they want.
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Post by RedSunSinking on Mar 16, 2020 15:12:18 GMT -5
I feel like they might be waiting for the government to announce some sort of restrictions first.
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Post by ccd204p on Mar 16, 2020 15:56:21 GMT -5
Really bad management again from Noels team. They should just postpone all shows and make that official on their social media channels saying new dates announced when everything at least a bit back to normal again - something like that. Whats the problem with doing these gigs in 6 months or at a later point this year. Also offer people to keep their tickets or refund them if they want. I don’t think Noel’s team are at fault here- you’ve got to take government advice. They’re probably looking to see if rescheduling is possible and probably working with TCT to see when they are looking to play their run of gigs. Timing might not work if Noel’s in the studio so there might be some working out to do
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Post by Gas Panic on Mar 16, 2020 16:20:41 GMT -5
Postpone the gigs until Christmas I say.
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Post by bt95 on Mar 16, 2020 18:04:31 GMT -5
Really bad management again from Noels team. They should just postpone all shows and make that official on their social media channels saying new dates announced when everything at least a bit back to normal again - something like that. Whats the problem with doing these gigs in 6 months or at a later point this year. Also offer people to keep their tickets or refund them if they want. TCT haven't even cancelled that gig yet - I imagine all three will get announced as cancelled tomorrow. We'll hopefully see some rescheduled dates and maybe that, or actually waiting for the official government statement today, is the hold up. I'm sure it won't be going ahead.
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Post by Gas Panic on Mar 17, 2020 8:07:48 GMT -5
The Royal Albert Hall have just posted on Facebook about closing its doors to the public.
TCT is definitely not happening.
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Post by Gas Panic on Mar 17, 2020 10:34:07 GMT -5
Just had an email from gigsandtours.
They are calling the TCT gigs postponed for now, which I guess is good news.
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Post by aesthetic on Mar 17, 2020 12:23:18 GMT -5
Pretty sure this hasn't been proved either way as of yet. It isn't certain whether you can catch the disease multiple times or not, or how long the immunity lasts if it does exist. You could catch it next week, be immune, then end up catching it again when it comes back round in the summer. It is a very big gamble if this is honestly their strategy, which I don't believe it is.
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Post by Derrick on Mar 17, 2020 14:49:33 GMT -5
Really bad management again from Noels team. They should just postpone all shows and make that official on their social media channels saying new dates announced when everything at least a bit back to normal again - something like that. Whats the problem with doing these gigs in 6 months or at a later point this year. Also offer people to keep their tickets or refund them if they want. I don’t think Noel’s team are at fault here- you’ve got to take government advice. They’re probably looking to see if rescheduling is possible and probably working with TCT to see when they are looking to play their run of gigs. Timing might not work if Noel’s in the studio so there might be some working out to do Perhaps also for legal reasons they're waiting for a government decision before cancelling the shows: as long as gigs can legally go ahead, if Noel's team decide to cancel it they might not, or partially, be insured for the refunds, whereas if the government forbids any gig in the UK then they'll be 100% insured. So they might just be waiting for the government ban on gatherings, not just recommendations.
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