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Post by Frodis on Dec 30, 2019 17:30:33 GMT -5
Hell, even the Crystal Ballroom in Portland. Wonder Ballroom is awesome, too. Both great venues. Just anywhere that's not the Schnitz or (fucking) Roseland. I know it's too small a place for Liam but imagine if he did a small concert in Mississippi studios? never gonna happen but the acoustics there are amazing. I would 100% be down for a Mississippi Studios show. That's right around the corner from my house. Maybe he'd do a small acoustic set or something earlier in the day there and then the full concert at a bigger venue. That'd be ideal. I know when I first moved into that neighborhood, I saw this tour bus parked outside of my house. Walked outside and it was Gavin Rossdale & the rest of Bush. I think the band was doing some sort of acoustic thing for 94.7. He gave me an odd/dirty look when I came out of my house wearing an old Oasis tour shirt.
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Post by stxparkamonkey on Dec 30, 2019 17:44:58 GMT -5
I know it's too small a place for Liam but imagine if he did a small concert in Mississippi studios? never gonna happen but the acoustics there are amazing. I would 100% be down for a Mississippi Studios show. That's right around the corner from my house. Maybe he'd do a small acoustic set or something earlier in the day there and then the full concert at a bigger venue. That'd be ideal. I know when I first moved into that neighborhood, I saw this tour bus parked outside of my house. Walked outside and it was Gavin Rossdale & the rest of Bush. I think the band was doing some sort of acoustic thing for 94.7. He gave me an odd/dirty look when I came out of my house wearing an old Oasis tour shirt. TBF, I'd be sour too if I was the lead singer of Bush.
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Post by Frodis on Dec 30, 2019 17:49:35 GMT -5
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Post by bestwick8 on Jan 8, 2020 10:04:10 GMT -5
My bet is the second half of the year... good chance he pulls out of the shakey knees festival
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Post by stxparkamonkey on Jan 8, 2020 10:08:51 GMT -5
My bet is the second half of the year... good chance he pulls out of the shakey knees festival Why would you guess that? Festivals seem to be a better bet than headlinging no? Less overhead, guaranteed fee/large turnout and the prestige of playing at a name festival.
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Post by bestwick8 on Jan 8, 2020 10:13:06 GMT -5
My bet is the second half of the year... good chance he pulls out of the shakey knees festival Why would you guess that? Festivals seem to be a better bet than headlinging no? Less overhead, guaranteed fee/large turnout and the prestige of playing at a name festival. It seems way too late already for a tour announcement at this point for April/May and he wouldn’t come over just to do one 45 minute gig on a side stage. And the other major US festivals start after June and he’s back in June for the Manchester gig. This is just my guess...
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Post by stxparkamonkey on Jan 14, 2020 11:20:03 GMT -5
Quick question lads and ladies, would Liam ever do meet and greets for his US tour? seems like easy money
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Post by jmp111181 on Jan 14, 2020 12:26:34 GMT -5
Man where are the US dates? Starting today off with a bummer. The Darkness just announced US dates for April/May, they’re in New Orleans same night as Royal Blood which I already have tix for. Both them and LG are at Shaky Knees the weekend before. Looks like I may have to make travel plans, but give us those dates man!!!
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Post by nkmaas on Jan 18, 2020 19:19:43 GMT -5
Quick question lads and ladies, would Liam ever do meet and greets for his US tour? seems like easy money I am hoping he does but it seems unlikely. He could make tons of money off of them.
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Post by igotflair on Jan 20, 2020 11:12:50 GMT -5
It seems way too late already for a tour announcement at this point for April/May and he wouldn’t come over just to do one 45 minute gig on a side stage. This is just my guess... If they don’t get something together pretty soon the festival appearance will be toast.
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Post by stxparkamonkey on Jan 21, 2020 11:37:08 GMT -5
It seems way too late already for a tour announcement at this point for April/May and he wouldn’t come over just to do one 45 minute gig on a side stage. This is just my guess... If they don’t get something together pretty soon the festival appearance will be toast. Is it due to the fact that he doesn't make as much money here as he does in other countries? I wonder if going on a co-headlining tour would be more beneficial to him. Someone more known than Ashcroft but not too big where he's be stuck playing 30 mins sets like he did with The Who. Maybe the Foos ? (I hate their music but they sell out constantly)
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Post by igotflair on Jan 21, 2020 12:45:19 GMT -5
If they don’t get something together pretty soon the festival appearance will be toast. Is it due to the fact that he doesn't make as much money here as he does in other countries? I wonder if going on a co-headlining tour would be more beneficial to him. Someone more known than Ashcroft but not too big where he's be stuck playing 30 mins sets like he did with The Who. Maybe the Foos ? (I hate their music but they sell out constantly) Hmmm, money is a big reason. It does cost an insane amount to get an ever increasing crew and equipment over there, with Visas and permits bringing headaches too. Record sales/streaming figures weren’t particularly encouraging and it’s pretty pointless to travel and work so hard just to break even. You’ve probably noticed Gerry Cinnamon is also playing Shaky Knees, there’s your tour support in place, but the question is do enough Americans want a Liam tour to make it worthwhile? He’s already done theatres, he’d ideally be wanting to consider bigger venues. He’s more ambitious than he pretends to be and never underestimate ego when it comes to decision making.
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Post by Lennon2217 on Jan 21, 2020 12:49:36 GMT -5
Is it due to the fact that he doesn't make as much money here as he does in other countries? I wonder if going on a co-headlining tour would be more beneficial to him. Someone more known than Ashcroft but not too big where he's be stuck playing 30 mins sets like he did with The Who. Maybe the Foos ? (I hate their music but they sell out constantly) Hmmm, money is a big reason. It does cost an insane amount to get an ever increasing crew and equipment over there, with Visas and permits bringing headaches too. Record sales/streaming figures weren’t particularly encouraging and it’s pretty pointless to travel and work so hard just to break even. You’ve probably noticed Gerry Cinnamon is also playing Shaky Knees, there’s your tour support in place, but the question is do enough Americans want a Liam tour to make it worthwhile? He’s already done theatres, he’d ideally be wanting to consider bigger venues. He’s more ambitious than he pretends to be and never underestimate ego when it comes to decision making. If Liam invades America he should focus on mid level venues. Easier to sell. America is just so vast. Sure Liam can definitely sell out gigs in LA, Chicago, Toronto, Boston, NYC and Philly but he needs a lot more shows to justify the trip over.
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Post by stxparkamonkey on Jan 21, 2020 13:30:14 GMT -5
I was thinking a slot on a tour like the recent Black Crowes reunion tour (they've yet to announce any openers) or a package tour not unlike Matchbox Twenty and The Wallflowers.
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Post by World71R on Jan 21, 2020 17:08:18 GMT -5
Hmmm, money is a big reason. It does cost an insane amount to get an ever increasing crew and equipment over there, with Visas and permits bringing headaches too. Record sales/streaming figures weren’t particularly encouraging and it’s pretty pointless to travel and work so hard just to break even. You’ve probably noticed Gerry Cinnamon is also playing Shaky Knees, there’s your tour support in place, but the question is do enough Americans want a Liam tour to make it worthwhile? He’s already done theatres, he’d ideally be wanting to consider bigger venues. He’s more ambitious than he pretends to be and never underestimate ego when it comes to decision making. If Liam invades America he should focus on mid level venues. Easier to sell. America is just so vast. Sure Liam can definitely sell out gigs in LA, Chicago, Toronto, Boston, NYC and Philly but he needs a lot more shows to justify the trip over. As someone who lives about a little over an hour the Twin Cities, I hope he comes back to the area. I didn't go in 2017 because I was a freshman who was new to the area but having been to a few shows up there, I'm all in for any favorite artists who come up there, as long as they don't charge out the ass for fees (e.g. Tame Impala at the Xcel this year).
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Post by Zingbot on Jan 21, 2020 18:19:11 GMT -5
Oasis were doing MSG in 2008, what could Liam do? Probably not MSG, but 90's nostalgia is still alive and well. Surely he could 10,000+ plus venues by himself. A co headlining tour with a wise choice could bring 20,000+ venues. He'd have to pick somebody who's bigger than him and most likely a 90's act. As previously mentioned, Foo Fighters seem like a logical choice, given that they fit the profile and get along with Liam.
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Post by drummert5 on Jan 21, 2020 21:47:57 GMT -5
Oasis were doing MSG in 2008, what could Liam do? Probably not MSG, but 90's nostalgia is still alive and well. Surely he could 10,000+ plus venues by himself. A co headlining tour with a wise choice could bring 20,000+ venues. He'd have to pick somebody who's bigger than him and most likely a 90's act. As previously mentioned, Foo Fighters seem like a logical choice, given that they fit the profile and get along with Liam. 2008 was a long time ago. Oasis, by touring the U.S. pretty regularly in the late 90s/early 00s, worked up enough of a fan base to just about manage a handful of arenas in '05 and '08, which were full on the coasts and partly full elsewhere. Liam then spent ten years effectively invisible in the U.S., as not only did Beady Eye attract zero interest, but he also didn't benefit from the PR ramp up his solo career got in the U.K., both with the Supersonic film and the One Love gig. Therefore, Liam in 2017 played a handful of 1000-2000 capacity U.S. venues, and I think that's likely to remain on the high end of the level of his draw. I mean nothing against him, I'm happy with where he's gone with his solo career, he just faces an enormous uphill battle in the U.S. that I suspect is not really worth doing anything with other than tinkering at the margins. Also, the Foos are not a 90s nostalgia act.
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Post by Zingbot on Jan 21, 2020 22:18:22 GMT -5
Oasis were doing MSG in 2008, what could Liam do? Probably not MSG, but 90's nostalgia is still alive and well. Surely he could 10,000+ plus venues by himself. A co headlining tour with a wise choice could bring 20,000+ venues. He'd have to pick somebody who's bigger than him and most likely a 90's act. As previously mentioned, Foo Fighters seem like a logical choice, given that they fit the profile and get along with Liam. 2008 was a long time ago. Oasis, by touring the U.S. pretty regularly in the late 90s/early 00s, worked up enough of a fan base to just about manage a handful of arenas in '05 and '08, which were full on the coasts and partly full elsewhere. Liam then spent ten years effectively invisible in the U.S., as not only did Beady Eye attract zero interest, but he also didn't benefit from the PR ramp up his solo career got in the U.K., both with the Supersonic film and the One Love gig. Therefore, Liam in 2017 played a handful of 1000-2000 capacity U.S. venues, and I think that's likely to remain on the high end of the level of his draw. I mean nothing against him, I'm happy with where he's gone with his solo career, he just faces an enormous uphill battle in the U.S. that I suspect is not really worth doing anything with other than tinkering at the margins. Also, the Foos are not a 90s nostalgia act. But they're a 90's band that piggy backs off nostalgia.
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Post by Lennon2217 on Jan 21, 2020 22:22:33 GMT -5
Oasis were doing MSG in 2008, what could Liam do? Probably not MSG, but 90's nostalgia is still alive and well. Surely he could 10,000+ plus venues by himself. A co headlining tour with a wise choice could bring 20,000+ venues. He'd have to pick somebody who's bigger than him and most likely a 90's act. As previously mentioned, Foo Fighters seem like a logical choice, given that they fit the profile and get along with Liam. 2008 was a long time ago. Oasis, by touring the U.S. pretty regularly in the late 90s/early 00s, worked up enough of a fan base to just about manage a handful of arenas in '05 and '08, which were full on the coasts and partly full elsewhere. Liam then spent ten years effectively invisible in the U.S., as not only did Beady Eye attract zero interest, but he also didn't benefit from the PR ramp up his solo career got in the U.K., both with the Supersonic film and the One Love gig. Therefore, Liam in 2017 played a handful of 1000-2000 capacity U.S. venues, and I think that's likely to remain on the high end of the level of his draw. I mean nothing against him, I'm happy with where he's gone with his solo career, he just faces an enormous uphill battle in the U.S. that I suspect is not really worth doing anything with other than tinkering at the margins. Also, the Foos are not a 90s nostalgia act. Yeah, Liam needs to focus on 1,500 person venues. Sure he could do bigger in some cities but his fame in America is about 1,000 per show.
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Post by Zingbot on Jan 21, 2020 22:53:59 GMT -5
2008 was a long time ago. Oasis, by touring the U.S. pretty regularly in the late 90s/early 00s, worked up enough of a fan base to just about manage a handful of arenas in '05 and '08, which were full on the coasts and partly full elsewhere. Liam then spent ten years effectively invisible in the U.S., as not only did Beady Eye attract zero interest, but he also didn't benefit from the PR ramp up his solo career got in the U.K., both with the Supersonic film and the One Love gig. Therefore, Liam in 2017 played a handful of 1000-2000 capacity U.S. venues, and I think that's likely to remain on the high end of the level of his draw. I mean nothing against him, I'm happy with where he's gone with his solo career, he just faces an enormous uphill battle in the U.S. that I suspect is not really worth doing anything with other than tinkering at the margins. Also, the Foos are not a 90s nostalgia act. Yeah, Liam needs to focus on 1,500 person venues. Sure he could do bigger in some cities but his fame in America is about 1,000 per show. Surely he could do more than that. At least 5,000. No point in touring if it's gonna completely lack ambition. Oasis' fan base in the US is alive and well. That singer guy from Oasis could probably sell a reasonable amount of tickets.
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Post by Marissa on Jan 22, 2020 0:03:46 GMT -5
Oasis were doing MSG in 2008, what could Liam do? Probably not MSG, but 90's nostalgia is still alive and well. Surely he could 10,000+ plus venues by himself. A co headlining tour with a wise choice could bring 20,000+ venues. He'd have to pick somebody who's bigger than him and most likely a 90's act. As previously mentioned, Foo Fighters seem like a logical choice, given that they fit the profile and get along with Liam. having been to three liam sets in the US i can tell you that he definitely cannot lol and after the trainwreck that was his lollapalooza appearance i know i'm not buying festival tickets just to see him again, so hopefully he pulls off the atlanta fest and gets back in the good graces of american festivals.
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Post by igotflair on Jan 22, 2020 3:44:24 GMT -5
2008 was a long time ago. Oasis, by touring the U.S. pretty regularly in the late 90s/early 00s, worked up enough of a fan base to just about manage a handful of arenas in '05 and '08, which were full on the coasts and partly full elsewhere. Liam then spent ten years effectively invisible in the U.S., as not only did Beady Eye attract zero interest, but he also didn't benefit from the PR ramp up his solo career got in the U.K., both with the Supersonic film and the One Love gig. Therefore, Liam in 2017 played a handful of 1000-2000 capacity U.S. venues, and I think that's likely to remain on the high end of the level of his draw. I mean nothing against him, I'm happy with where he's gone with his solo career, he just faces an enormous uphill battle in the U.S. that I suspect is not really worth doing anything with other than tinkering at the margins. Also, the Foos are not a 90s nostalgia act. Yeah, Liam needs to focus on 1,500 person venues. Sure he could do bigger in some cities but his fame in America is about 1,000 per show. The profit made from 1500 tickets in the US would just about stretch to putting “Elvis” in the class of hotel to which he’s accustomed for the night without all the other costs.
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Post by Lennon2217 on Jan 22, 2020 8:49:41 GMT -5
Yeah, Liam needs to focus on 1,500 person venues. Sure he could do bigger in some cities but his fame in America is about 1,000 per show. Surely he could do more than that. At least 5,000. No point in touring if it's gonna completely lack ambition. Oasis' fan base in the US is alive and well. That singer guy from Oasis could probably sell a reasonable amount of tickets. I’m not sure why you are so confident he could do bigger venues across America. I’ve been to over a dozen Oasis, Noel, Beady and Liam gigs in America. They aren’t as big as you think they should be. Both brothers would struggle to do a 12 date USA tour for 5,000 seat venues.
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Post by mancraider on Jan 22, 2020 11:51:15 GMT -5
He would need to put in some major effort to make any significant impact on US now. Backed up with a great album, which as much as I like WMWN, it isn't the album to do that.
Barring a minor miracle it's hard to see him achieving it. Non stop touring in US for months on end and endless promotion is a young man's game.
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Post by Zingbot on Jan 22, 2020 12:35:25 GMT -5
Surely he could do more than that. At least 5,000. No point in touring if it's gonna completely lack ambition. Oasis' fan base in the US is alive and well. That singer guy from Oasis could probably sell a reasonable amount of tickets. I’m not sure why you are so confident he could do bigger venues across America. I’ve been to over a dozen Oasis, Noel, Beady and Liam gigs in America. They aren’t as big as you think they should be. Both brothers would struggle to do a 12 date USA tour for 5,000 seat venues. Ok. I figured since Oasis had quite the fan base, that would translate to some nostalgia that could carry him to more success. You clearly have more experience than I do here, so I'll concede that you're correct. So, why would he even bother. Tribute bands play to crowds as big as that. That's fucking miserable for such an established act. He shouldn't even tour. Profits would be slim.
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