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Post by Aman on Feb 24, 2021 7:51:01 GMT -5
I get why people are upset about this, but right now there are lots of teenagers who will be exposed to Stand By Me for the first time and who are about to discover Oasis. Yep my thoughts too! The SBM YouTube comments already has a bunch of posts about "Halifax brought me here" etc! |
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Post by girllikeabomb on Feb 24, 2021 8:02:37 GMT -5
Tbh, I don't think it's that deep He owns the publishing but they probably still have to go through someone else first, he got told "they're using this for an ad are you okay with it?" and he'd have gone something like "oh yeah alright" thinking of all that money coming in without doing anything And he hates the song anyway  The Oasis songs are an absolute gold mine, both financially and legacy-wise. Pretty sure Noel takes an interest in how, when and for how much they sell. There's no making that ad without his express permission and an off-hand "oh yeah" isn't typically how it works.  I'm sure he's been approached many, many, many times before and for decades. He decided to sell "Stand By Me" now So the question was simply why now. Maybe it is indeed just because he hates it and since it was that one they wanted, he fluffed it off like a bastard child. But it's also a weird financial time and he has a lot of company with many songwriters with strong legacies doing ads and even selling their entire catalogs (which, according to another thread here, Noel is also talking about doing.) |
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Post by defmaybe00 on Feb 24, 2021 8:08:19 GMT -5
Tbh, I don't think it's that deep He owns the publishing but they probably still have to go through someone else first, he got told "they're using this for an ad are you okay with it?" and he'd have gone something like "oh yeah alright" thinking of all that money coming in without doing anything And he hates the song anyway The Oasis songs are an absolute gold mine, both financially and legacy-wise. Pretty sure Noel takes an interest in how, when and for how much they sell. There's no making that ad without his express permission and an off-hand "oh yeah" isn't typically how it works. I'm sure he's been approached many, many, many times before and for decades. He decided to sell "Stand By Me" now So the question was simply why now. Maybe it is indeed just because he hates it and since it was that one they wanted, he fluffed it off like a bastard child. But it's also a weird financial time and he has a lot of company with many songwriters with strong legacies doing ads and even selling their entire catalogs (which, according to another thread here, Noel is also talking about doing.) Meh, he's had lots of songs used for adverts, both in the UK and the rest of the world (for instance, I was unaware of Oasis but knew Whatever when I was around 9 or 10 because of an ad, think it was Coca Cola os something like that) His most successful solo song actually was such because of an ad I don't think he cares that deeply They offered him, he's not getting anything from gigs and obviously not much from streaming, why would he refuse? |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 24, 2021 8:11:03 GMT -5
There was also Round Are Way on an advert recently.
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Post by defmaybe00 on Feb 24, 2021 8:13:27 GMT -5
There was also Round Are Way on an advert recently. That was cute tho |
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Post by underneaththesky on Feb 24, 2021 8:20:27 GMT -5
NG SICKsellOUT EP
1. Whatever
2. Don't Look Back In Anger
3. Stand By Me
4. Let's All Make Believe
5. Stop Crying Your Heart Out
6. Let There Be Love
7. Who Put The Weight Of The World On My Shoulder?
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Post by darmin on Feb 24, 2021 8:29:55 GMT -5
You brought it up 2 times in 1 short thread.., not gonna give you this click mate x |
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Post by Jessica on Feb 24, 2021 9:23:54 GMT -5
Never going to be a better time for it than right now. The DM/WTSMG reissues, Wonderwall hitting a billion streams, their solo work doing well in the charts, and the whole revisiting of the 90's that is going on.
Who really knows how well those deals people are making right now are going to work out in the long run anyway?
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Post by mossy on Feb 24, 2021 15:56:05 GMT -5
You brought it up 2 times in 1 short thread.., not gonna give you this click mate x I’d honestly forgotten given that post was made... in 2019. Please do click though mate, I need the affiliate link revenue to fund my cigar habit. X |
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Post by girllikeabomb on Feb 24, 2021 17:53:11 GMT -5
The Oasis songs are an absolute gold mine, both financially and legacy-wise. Pretty sure Noel takes an interest in how, when and for how much they sell. There's no making that ad without his express permission and an off-hand "oh yeah" isn't typically how it works. I'm sure he's been approached many, many, many times before and for decades. He decided to sell "Stand By Me" now So the question was simply why now. Maybe it is indeed just because he hates it and since it was that one they wanted, he fluffed it off like a bastard child. But it's also a weird financial time and he has a lot of company with many songwriters with strong legacies doing ads and even selling their entire catalogs (which, according to another thread here, Noel is also talking about doing.) Meh, he's had lots of songs used for adverts, both in the UK and the rest of the world (for instance, I was unaware of Oasis but knew Whatever when I was around 9 or 10 because of an ad, think it was Coca Cola os something like that) His most successful solo song actually was such because of an ad I don't think he cares that deeply
They offered him, he's not getting anything from gigs and obviously not much from streaming, why would he refuse?Think we are talking past one another. That was pretty much my point -- that he's not getting anything from touring so he had a financial incentive (replying to post above asking, tongue in cheek presumably, if he had money problems.) To me, it's obvious he cares deeply about both the money and the brand (in the way he personally sees it), but agreed that he doesn't care if people think it's "selling out." Don't think I suggested that. I only suggested he cares about how, when and for how much things are sold, else wise you'd be seeing underwear ads to "Supersonic." So far as I know (and I haven't done deep research), all recent uses of Oasis songs have been covers: a cover of "Half the World Away" for John Lewis (which Noel said outright he did for the money) more than 6 years ago, the Wonderwall cover in the early part of this thread and the Round Are Way cover for Co-Op. Have there been any actual Oasis recordings used in ads in the last 10 years? |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 24, 2021 18:13:50 GMT -5
Meh, he's had lots of songs used for adverts, both in the UK and the rest of the world (for instance, I was unaware of Oasis but knew Whatever when I was around 9 or 10 because of an ad, think it was Coca Cola os something like that) His most successful solo song actually was such because of an ad I don't think he cares that deeply
They offered him, he's not getting anything from gigs and obviously not much from streaming, why would he refuse?Think we are talking past one another. That was pretty much my point -- that he's not getting anything from touring so he had a financial incentive (replying to post above asking, tongue in cheek presumably, if he had money problems.) To me, it's obvious he cares deeply about both the money and the brand (in the way he personally sees it), but agreed that he doesn't care if people think it's "selling out." Don't think I suggested that. I only suggested he cares about how, when and for how much things are sold, else wise you'd be seeing underwear ads to "Supersonic." So far as I know (and I haven't done deep research), all recent uses of Oasis songs have been covers: a cover of "Half the World Away" for John Lewis (which Noel said outright he did for the money) more than 6 years ago, the Wonderwall cover in the early part of this thread and the Round Are Way cover for Co-Op. Have there been any actual Oasis recordings used in ads in the last 10 years? Whatever in a french advert for a bank. Wasn't Whatever also used at some point in a coca cola ad ? Not sure if it was in the last 10 years though. |
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Post by defmaybe00 on Feb 24, 2021 18:16:52 GMT -5
Think we are talking past one another. That was pretty much my point -- that he's not getting anything from touring so he had a financial incentive (replying to post above asking, tongue in cheek presumably, if he had money problems.) To me, it's obvious he cares deeply about both the money and the brand (in the way he personally sees it), but agreed that he doesn't care if people think it's "selling out." Don't think I suggested that. I only suggested he cares about how, when and for how much things are sold, else wise you'd be seeing underwear ads to "Supersonic." So far as I know (and I haven't done deep research), all recent uses of Oasis songs have been covers: a cover of "Half the World Away" for John Lewis (which Noel said outright he did for the money) more than 6 years ago, the Wonderwall cover in the early part of this thread and the Round Are Way cover for Co-Op. Have there been any actual Oasis recordings used in ads in the last 10 years? Whatever in a french advert for a bank. Wasn't Whatever also used at some point in a coca cola ad ? Not sure if it was in the last 10 years though. Yes as I said that's how I first heard the song But in general I just don't think he's there counting every penny. He's not gonna refuse, he's not gonna seek it, if it happens then why not? |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 24, 2021 18:42:17 GMT -5
Whatever in a french advert for a bank. Wasn't Whatever also used at some point in a coca cola ad ? Not sure if it was in the last 10 years though. Yes as I said that's how I first heard the song But in general I just don't think he's there counting every penny. He's not gonna refuse, he's not gonna seek it, if it happens then why not? Yeah I understand your point. I also get what Aman and other members are saying about the fact the ad is probably gonna get more people into the band. But really I'm just not that comfortable knowing that basically the best way musicians can make some money now is from TV adverts promoting companies. It's just sad. I'm not saying neither Liam or Noel are the biggest sellouts in rock history, and I'm also not gonna burn my copy of Definitely Maybe tonight, I wanna be clear about that  I just think a big artist like Noel could avoid that kind of thing. And any commercially succesful artist for that matter. Especially ones that had their success before music sales crisis. I mean Noel was the songwriter of a band who sold about 40/45 millions records at least. He's not Stephen Malkmus or Norman Blake. Oasis still have their songs played daily on radios all around the world. Wonderwall is literally exploding the streaming counter, so Noel is one of the few who can make of few quids of that fucked up system. Anyway, that obviously doesn't tarnish in the slightest the respect I have for him as a songwriter and the big laughs he gave me over the years. And I guess it's just how the industry works these days, since he's far from being the first that has to do that, so... I'm gonna take a nice cold beer I guess |
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Post by defmaybe00 on Feb 24, 2021 18:54:13 GMT -5
Yes as I said that's how I first heard the song But in general I just don't think he's there counting every penny. He's not gonna refuse, he's not gonna seek it, if it happens then why not? Yeah I understand your point. I also get what Aman and other members are saying about the fact the ad is probably gonna get more people into the band. But really I'm just not that comfortable knowing that basically the best way musicians can make some money now is from TV adverts promoting companies. It's just sad. I'm not saying neither Liam or Noel are the biggest sellouts in rock history, and I'm also not gonna burn my copy of Definitely Maybe tonight, I wanna be clear about that I just think a big artist like Noel could avoid that kind of thing. And any commercially succesful artist for that matter. Especially ones that had their success before music sales crisis. I mean Noel was the songwriter of a band who sold about 40/45 millions records at least. He's not Stephen Malkmus or Norman Blake. Oasis still have their songs played daily on radios all around the world. Wonderwall is literally exploding the streaming counter, so Noel is one of the few who can make of few quids of that fucked up system. Anyway, that obviously doesn't tarnish in the slightest the respect I have for him as a songwriter and the big laughs he gave me over the years. And I guess it's just how the industry works these days, since he's far from being the first that has to do that, so... I'm gonna take a nice cold beer I guess Yeah I wasn't juat answering to you but I was too lazy to double quote But I get your point, I guess I've just never been that bothered by adverts in general, it never had too much of a bad connotation for me unless it was something properly embarrassing or *wrong* I agree it's kinda sad you get more from this then actually putting a record out, but we could spend hours talking about the state of music and the arts in general |
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Post by darmin on Feb 25, 2021 1:39:35 GMT -5
You brought it up 2 times in 1 short thread.., not gonna give you this click mate x I’d honestly forgotten given that post was made... in 2019. Please do click though mate, I need the affiliate link revenue to fund my cigar habit. X Can’t fault you, 2019 was lifetime ago... not sure I can recommend to reread it like me, not very interesting thread |
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Post by girllikeabomb on Feb 25, 2021 20:56:54 GMT -5
Yes as I said that's how I first heard the song But in general I just don't think he's there counting every penny. He's not gonna refuse, he's not gonna seek it, if it happens then why not? Don’t think he’s sitting in his mansion cackling as he checks his various bank accounts, but it's just a fact that he has an enormous asset in his song catalog (and a separate asset in the recorded rights although that is likely shared) and like all people in that position, he has the ability, by caring, to maximize the value and to maintain the brand by not just selling off rights to anyone (value can be diluted by over-selling and also selling foolishly – do you want people to associate Oasis with Pizza Hut, for example?). So might be repeating myself, but that’s why I’m fairly sure he cares. Other people likely manage that for him, but he is the one in the end who must give the greenlight to use the songs he wrote in ads and films. He does it when he does it for reasons. Anyway, just for fun here’s NG in 2006, five years before he allowed "Whatever" to be used in a Coca Cola ad, haha:
"Jack White has just written a song for Coca-Cola. End of. He ceases to be in the club. I don't believe in adverts. Coca-Cola man, fucking hell. And OK, you want to spread your message of peace and love, but do us all a fucking favour, I'm just not having it. It's like doing a fucking gig for McDonald's."
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Post by Deleted on Mar 2, 2021 15:28:40 GMT -5
Here's the interview I mentioned where Noel talks about selling songs to adverts voca.ro/1d7cTKRBqZSB |
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Post by LightsOffInside on Mar 30, 2022 12:13:02 GMT -5
This may have already been mentioned, but I just saw the most recent advert for Halifax on TV, and they are now using the acoustic “Live By The Pool” version in the adverts, rather than the studio version. Was quite interesting to hear that version on a tv advert of all things!
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Post by oasisserbia on Mar 31, 2022 2:10:42 GMT -5
So I’m going about my day minding my own business.....until a certain lyric PRICKS my ears on the TV... “today is gonna be the day...”etc etc” And I’m like surely NOT??? Noel Gallagher has given up WONDERWALL to a RENAULT advert?  WTF!!!!! WONDERWALL!!!! SACRED WONDERWALL!!!! Well Noel Gallagher, today IS gonna be the day where I’M gonna throw my RESPECT AWAY to you!!!! SICK!!!!!! In SHOCK!!!! SELLOUT!!!!! shite cover as well it was 🤣 |
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Post by welshylad on Mar 31, 2022 2:14:00 GMT -5
This may have already been mentioned, but I just saw the most recent advert for Halifax on TV, and they are now using the acoustic “Live By The Pool” version in the adverts, rather than the studio version. Was quite interesting to hear that version on a tv advert of all things! Yeh it was me who posted that. Essentially got a bootleg on an advert |
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Post by johnky on Mar 31, 2022 2:25:19 GMT -5
I dont know what to make of this thread. I personally think car ads are one of the hardest type of ads to make. If a dodgy WW helps to shift a few cars and NG is okay with it, whats the issue? ?? |
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Post by fluff123 on Mar 31, 2022 2:29:32 GMT -5
I dont know what to make of this thread. I personally think car ads are one of the hardest type of ads to make. If a dodgy WW helps to shift a few cars and NG is okay with it, whats the issue? ?? Exactly this!!! Why does everyone have to be outraged for absolutely nothing? ? |
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Post by settingson on Mar 31, 2022 7:18:55 GMT -5
Honestly, who gives a f***?
Makes zero difference to my personal love of a song if it's used somewhere else.
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Post by jezza2 on Mar 31, 2022 11:51:38 GMT -5
I adore this thread.
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Post by garylineker on Mar 31, 2022 14:32:38 GMT -5
If you're annoyed now, you wait until he sells the songs in a few years
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