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Post by Lennon2217 on Nov 10, 2019 7:55:25 GMT -5
1. Abbey Road 2. Revolver 3. Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band 4. Magical Mystery Tour 5. The White Album 6. Rubber Soul 7. Help! 8. Let it Be 9. Please Please Me 10. With the Beatles No A Hard Days Night? Definitely the best early Beatles record. First entirely written by them. Huge ass hit. |
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Post by The Escapist on Nov 10, 2019 9:39:17 GMT -5
1. Abbey Road 2. Revolver 3. Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band 4. Magical Mystery Tour 5. The White Album 6. Rubber Soul 7. Help! 8. A Hard Day's Night 9. Let it Be 10. Please Please Me 11. With the Beatles No A Hard Days Night? Definitely the best early Beatles record. First entirely written by them. Huge ass hit. I'd put it between Help and Let it Be. Help is probably my favourite "boyband Beatles" record. I've Just Seen a Face is an absolute tune. |
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Post by Zingbot on Nov 10, 2019 10:15:25 GMT -5
The Night before is the best pre-rubber soul McCartney song. Help is easily the best pop album they did.
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Post by glider on Nov 10, 2019 16:36:18 GMT -5
I've been on a giant Beatles kick for the past two weeks, for mainly post Rubber Soul and their solo LPs - and I've realized something. matt , I believe you've stated McCartney's career and contributions has become underrated? I agree. Many people look over his post Beatles material because he aged with everyone else, but he's a musical savant when it comes to pop Melody and lyricism. Paul even could rock when he wanted to, but the immortalization of Lennon (here comes my controversial statement) may be the most overrated event in music ever. His murder was a tragedy but his material for me was never as consistently brilliant as Paul's outside Wings (who still had decent tunes here and there) nor a juggernaut like with George's Triple Masterpiece. His LPs always sounded all over the place and Double Fantasy got overblown because of the historical significance around it, the songs aren't the best and dare I say it, cliched. It's as if Lennon's Yoko lovesong works were precursors for Ashcroft to follow for his Kate ballads. I'm not trying to dig at John as he was still a lyrical genius but Paul's post Beatles work shows he was perhaps the most talented amongst them. I know you acknowledged you were saying someting potentially controversial, but I still think you got a bit carried away there.
Overhyped he may be--and, yes, conversely Macca probably doesn't get the respect he deserves a lot of the time--but there are many popular music artists I can think of who are more underserving of the esteem they are held in than John Lennon. How about Michael Jackson, for a start?
Does anyone hold MJ in high songwriting regard as Lennon? His lyrical ability? MJ was simply of the greatest performers of our generation, Lennon is regarded in a completely different lense musically. After Plastic Ono Band and Imagine, there's a landmark track laid down here and there but for when you go into the weeds, primarily Bridges and Walls, he fell into increasingly easy tropes and safe Yoko ballads. My argument wasn't he's not as great of a songwriter, he was one of the absolute best, it's that his material wasn't adventurous or anything that would be considered uncharted territory, whilst Paul was always doing something different. |
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Post by theyknowwhatimean on Nov 10, 2019 17:05:27 GMT -5
I know you acknowledged you were saying someting potentially controversial, but I still think you got a bit carried away there.
Overhyped he may be--and, yes, conversely Macca probably doesn't get the respect he deserves a lot of the time--but there are many popular music artists I can think of who are more underserving of the esteem they are held in than John Lennon. How about Michael Jackson, for a start?
His lyrical ability? MJ was simply of the greatest performers of our generation, Lennon is regarded in a completely different lense musically. After Plastic Ono Band and Imagine, there's a landmark track laid down here and there but for when you go into the weeds, primarily Bridges and Walls, he fell into increasingly easy tropes and safe Yoko ballads. My argument wasn't he's not as great of a songwriter, he was one of the absolute best, it's that his material wasn't adventurous or anything that would be considered uncharted territory, whilst Paul was always doing something different. Not that I know of. But there's all that "King of Pop" bollocks which somehow still survives, despite the fact he only managed a couple of great albums before giving up the ghost. There is no king of pop music; but, if such a thing did exist, the throne would have to be big enough to seat four arses: John, Paul, George, and Ringo's.
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Post by Lennon2217 on Nov 10, 2019 17:27:39 GMT -5
Lennon, musically (and I guess personally), between 1972 and 1978 was a fucking mess and half! The stuff he was cooking up in 1980 was fantastic as he incorporated slight reggae into his music. I bet he would have been open to the hip hop world that would arrive in the mid 80s. He would have loved how expressive it was and also political.
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Post by glider on Nov 10, 2019 21:44:34 GMT -5
My Top 10 Currently:
01. Hey Jude
02. Dear Prudence
03. Golden Slumbers / Carry That Weight / The End
04. Across The Universe
05. Yesterday
06. Rocky Raccoon
07. She Said She Said
08. Here, There and Everywhere
09. Rain
10. Ticket To Ride
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Post by Zingbot on Nov 10, 2019 21:59:49 GMT -5
01 helter skelter
02 yer blues
03 The Night Before
04 Twist and shout
05 love me do
06 You like me to much
07 Money
08 Piggies
09 Across the Universe
10 Taxman
Since they're the best band ever(sorry Oasis) this will inevitably change drastically.
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Post by Zingbot on Nov 10, 2019 22:01:46 GMT -5
I didn't like MJ's music when he was alive. I certainly don't now that he's been exposed as a pedo.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 10, 2019 22:46:16 GMT -5
a day in the life
in my life
strawberry fields forever
im only sleeping
tomorrow never knows
within you without you
all my loving
day tripper
i want you she's so heavy
yer blues
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Post by The Escapist on Nov 10, 2019 22:54:18 GMT -5
Lennon, musically (and I guess personally), between 1972 and 1978 was a fucking mess and half! The stuff he was cooking up in 1980 was fantastic as he incorporated slight reggae into his music. I bet he would have been open to the hip hop world that would arrive in the mid 80s. He would have loved how expressive it was and also political. I think about this quite a bit. You'd think he'd like the subversive nature of it, and you know he'd get a big kick out of the wordplay, but there was quite a musically conservative streak in Lennon too that makes me think he might have just retreated further into the Elvis-worshipping tastes of his youth. Interesting to think about, especially considering how open Macca has been to the whole thing. |
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Post by Lennon2217 on Nov 10, 2019 23:36:20 GMT -5
Lennon, musically (and I guess personally), between 1972 and 1978 was a fucking mess and half! The stuff he was cooking up in 1980 was fantastic as he incorporated slight reggae into his music. I bet he would have been open to the hip hop world that would arrive in the mid 80s. He would have loved how expressive it was and also political. I think about this quite a bit. You'd think he'd like the subversive nature of it, and you know he'd get a big kick out of the wordplay, but there was quite a musically conservative streak in Lennon too that makes me think he might have just retreated further into the Elvis-worshipping tastes of his youth. Interesting to think about, especially considering how open Macca has been to the whole thing: It seemed he turned a corner in the very late 70s. He wasn’t really into Beatles music, Elvis or Dylan anymore. He was diving into reggae, Bowie, dance music, electronic music, the B-52s, cheap trick and punk bands for “keeping it real and honest” or whatever he said way back in the day. |
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Post by Lennon2217 on Nov 10, 2019 23:56:12 GMT -5
Oh geez, not sure I could ever rank them with actually numbers attached to a specific song but perhaps I could muster an overall 10 for this moment in time.
Strawberry Fields Forever
Hey Jude
I Am The Walrus
Help!
She Loves You
A Day In The Life
It’s All Too Much
Happiness Is A Warm Gun
Something
And Your Bird Can Sing
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Post by The Escapist on Nov 11, 2019 1:56:58 GMT -5
Oh geez, not sure I could ever rank them with actually numbers attached to a specific song but perhaps I could muster an overall 10 for this moment in time. Strawberry Fields Forever Hey Jude I Am The Walrus Help! She Loves You A Day In The Life It’s All Too Much Happiness Is A Warm Gun Something And Your Bird Can Sing What's the story with the recording of It's All Too Much and Hey Bulldog? Could they have been on Let it Be? |
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Post by funhouse on Nov 11, 2019 2:56:25 GMT -5
(in order of release)
I Saw Her Standing There
A Hard Day's Night
When I'm Sixty four
A Day In The Life
While My Guitar Gently Weeps
For No One
Something
Oh! Darling
The End
Let It Be
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Post by underneaththesky on Nov 11, 2019 4:05:14 GMT -5
Let it be is the worst post rubber soul album. Really sucked to see a band you love in that state. THAT state? listen to the hours and hours of sessions for this album, band is tight and vibe is good |
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Post by Lennon2217 on Nov 11, 2019 4:25:27 GMT -5
Oh geez, not sure I could ever rank them with actually numbers attached to a specific song but perhaps I could muster an overall 10 for this moment in time. Strawberry Fields Forever Hey Jude I Am The Walrus Help! She Loves You A Day In The Life It’s All Too Much Happiness Is A Warm Gun Something And Your Bird Can Sing What's the story with the recording of It's All Too Much and Hey Bulldog? Could they have been on Let it Be? It’s All Too Much is from May 1967. It’s definitely Pepper era for sure. Part of the 1967 psychedelic Beatles. Never got its due. Eventually popped up on Yellow Submarine. Hey Bulldog is from January 1968. Right before the Beatles left for India. I’d say no to Let It Be. Granted when Spector put LIB together he cheated and grabbed across the universe to round it out. Also from those same Hey Bulldog sessions. Prior to that across the universe was never going to be a Let It Be song. Especially since it was released as a charity release in early 1968. |
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Post by janedoe on Nov 11, 2019 4:44:04 GMT -5
The Night before is the best pre-rubber soul McCartney song. Help is easily the best pop album they did. One of my favourites. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 11, 2019 6:33:04 GMT -5
1. Strawberry Fields Forever
2. A Day In The Life
3. I Am The Walrus
4. In My Life
5. Ticket To Ride
6. Help!
7. Eleanor Rigby
8. Dear Prudence
9. Hey Jude
10.Rain
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Post by rorymcbride on Nov 11, 2019 7:03:59 GMT -5
LPs
Magical Mystery Tour
Sgt Peppers
Revolver
Rubber Soul
White Album
Hard Day's Night
For Sale
Abbey Road
Let It Be
With The Beatles
Help!
Today's favourite songs...
Strawberry Fields Forever (nailed on number one for life)
Within You Without You
Long, Long, Long
The Ballad Of John And Yoko
Old Brown Shoe
Hello Goodbye
Tomorrow Never Knows
Dear Prudence
Sexy Sadie
Sour Milk Sea
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Post by The Escapist on Nov 11, 2019 7:45:57 GMT -5
Even I think it's somehow gauche to rank Beatles songs with actual numbers. They're so easily moveable, every day you can be in love with another hidden gem or monstrous mega-hit. I'll give a rough top ten in no order a go, though:
- Norwegian Wood
- A Day in the Life
- Come Together
- Tomorrow Never Knows
- Help!
- Because
- I'm Only Sleeping
- I Am the Walrus
- Hey Jude
- Get Back / Let it Be
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Post by Zingbot on Nov 11, 2019 8:16:45 GMT -5
Ok! Gonna get this one out of the way. Yoko Ono is one of the most irritating people on the planet. I believe there's a 12 minute video on YouTube of her being disrespectful and disruptive in the studio. Her contributions to the white album nearly ruin the whole record. Did you like Yoko's involvement in the beatles?
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Post by rorymcbride on Nov 11, 2019 8:59:21 GMT -5
Yes. Her LP "Approximate Infinite Universe" shits on anything George did by himself.
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Post by Lennon2217 on Nov 11, 2019 9:08:43 GMT -5
Ok! Gonna get this one out of the way. Yoko Ono is one of the most irritating people on the planet. I believe there's a 12 minute video on YouTube of her being disrespectful and disruptive in the studio. Her contributions to the white album nearly ruin the whole record. Did you like Yoko's involvement in the beatles? I’ve never understood the Yoko hate from Beatles fans for several reasons. This coming from a person born 11 years after their split. 1) Who cares, we aren’t in the band. What do I care if John brought his girlfriend? Paul would later do the same thing with Linda at the tail end of the Beatles and later for Wings. 2) I find the hate both sexist and racist. 3) Any Beatles fan post 1970 should really not care. Happened before they were alive. Didn’t impact them. 4) How much were John and Yoko actually bothering people in real time? 1968-1972 they were very active but this is before social media, cable tv and a unified news front. I’m sure he popped up on the evening news here and there and some newspapers but the message for all of that was love. I doubt anti Yoko recoding sessions vibes were being reported. 5) So much of the Yoko slandering is post breakup hate. 6) With or without Yoko, the Beatles were drifting apart beginning in 1966. They all fell in and out of love, had various interests outside the Beatles and music and evolved. That happens. To like every band ever. It happens to regular people too. |
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Post by Zingbot on Nov 11, 2019 9:23:28 GMT -5
And I find it annoying that I can't dislike anybody in a different ethnic group or gender without being called racist and or sexist. I dislike her because her wretched voice ruined otherwise good songs. She also yelled and messed up recording sessions. She caused turmoil within the group by messing things up.
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