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Post by Deleted on Oct 13, 2019 18:29:47 GMT -5
Listening to FWIW, brilliant ballad. WMWN needed one of these. WMWN's got it, it's called "Once"; check track 3 on the album. Much better than FWIW anyway.
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Post by thomaslivesforever on Oct 13, 2019 18:48:30 GMT -5
I think there's a bit of recency bias at play here. Not even so much with people over-hyping WMWN (although I do think that's occurring), but with people forgetting what a cracking record As You Were was. When I look at them side-to-side, As You Were seems a lot more cohesive, crafted, and purposeful. It makes WMWN look like a collection of nice enough tunes rushed out to reap the market that As You Were sowed. Like I said, though, wouldn't be the first time I'd gotten an album wrong. Maybe people will still find it better than AYW in five years' time. But I certainly wouldn't put money on it. Well it all comes down to opinions. I think this record is more cohesive and definitely better crafted. I've see you say it sounds rushed before, I just don't hear that in it. The songs feel well written, with thought given to the production.
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Post by thomaslivesforever on Oct 13, 2019 18:52:17 GMT -5
I think there's a bit of recency bias at play here. Not even so much with people over-hyping WMWN (although I do think that's occurring), but with people forgetting what a cracking record As You Were was. When I look at them side-to-side, As You Were seems a lot more cohesive, crafted, and purposeful. It makes WMWN look like a collection of nice enough tunes rushed out to reap the market that As You Were sowed. Like I said, though, wouldn't be the first time I'd gotten an album wrong. Maybe people will still find it better than AYW in five years' time. But I certainly wouldn't put money on it. Nah that definitely seems about right. I wasn't here at the time but apparently when DOYS, DGSS etc were released there was a lot of positivity on here? Which soon levelled out. But this isn't the same record as DGSS, you can't just apply it in this case because you don't like it. There is no doubt a contact high for some but for me a lot of these songs have got better with repeated listns.
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Post by captaincrankshaft on Oct 14, 2019 2:12:00 GMT -5
I like both records but WMWN has better depth
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Post by Rolo on Oct 14, 2019 3:23:49 GMT -5
Why Me? Why Not is definitely the stronger album in my opinion. There isn't a song I skip apart from Glimmer which is luckily at the end.
A great collection of songs with enough variation to keep me entertained for a long time.
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Post by space75gr on Oct 14, 2019 4:52:35 GMT -5
voted for AYW
WM?WN. is a better album as a whole. Everything flows perfectly, no fillers or weak moments, with very good bonus tracks. An excellent album from start to finish, a mature work. BUT i prefer AYW, cause even if it has a few weak moments n not so good bonus tracks, it has the surpise element n freshness of a debut album and its best moments are better than the best moments in WMWN. AYW also has more better/stronger tracks in general than WMWN. AYW : WAG, FWIW, B, IVIN, PC, GS, CT, CBTM WMWN: SW, O, OOU, G, NTIFU
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Post by Zingbot on Oct 14, 2019 8:32:20 GMT -5
I can't tell you how much I loved WOG when it came out.
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Post by chamu on Oct 14, 2019 9:35:07 GMT -5
All the hype over Liam´s comeback, first song with Wall of Glass, One Love Concert, Glastonbury and a great record with As You Were is totally unbeatable, but as an album i think WMWN is stronger, deeper, with a much richer production and, overall, better songs
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Post by ossieoss30 on Oct 14, 2019 9:41:07 GMT -5
As You Were is for me a 7 or 8 given my mood Why Me? Why Not? is an 8 or 9 given my mood.
Slight preference for WMWN.
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Post by alwaysnow on Oct 14, 2019 10:36:53 GMT -5
I agree that it's difficult to compare because WMWN feels like a shiny and new toy, but I think when the dust settles it'll still be the stronger record for me. The highs are higher and the lows are not as low. It's more varied and is a very rewarding listening experience. All in all, I'm really happy and thankful for having both of these in my collection.
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Post by El Auténtico Dios on Oct 14, 2019 10:39:08 GMT -5
WMWN has no amateur/incomplete songs. AYW is full of them. Any other kind of conclusion is out of reality.
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Post by Zingbot on Oct 14, 2019 11:20:53 GMT -5
Ayw has a unique charm, and I enjoy the liam penned songs. WMWN is a great followup and sounds much more professional, ayw seems more real though. Both have great tunes, but after a month since the leak, I can say WMWN is better.
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Post by joladella on Oct 14, 2019 13:39:34 GMT -5
I love them both, but As you were will always have a very special place in my heart, because it came out when I badly needed it, going through a very dark time. Listening to it now does take me back, but not to the suffering, but to the joy it brought me. Thanks Liam!
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Post by americanparkamonkey on Oct 14, 2019 14:04:53 GMT -5
For the reasons a lot have already listed AYW is a very special record, simply because it showed Liam could do it. It felt a bit raw and the songs he wrote on it especially made me very happy that he was back and making music. WMWN is a better record though, and I think Liam's influence is heavier throughout it. I think we're seeing him come into his own and I really can't wait to hear what he does next.
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Post by stxparkamonkey on Oct 14, 2019 14:26:12 GMT -5
AYW, I just dig the vibe more and there's no song on WMWN that is as biblical as Wall of Glass. That being said WMWN is still a gem.
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Post by Lundblad on Oct 16, 2019 8:50:05 GMT -5
I think WMWN is more even throughout, but I am not sure I will rate its best parts as high as the first four songs on AYW. Time will tell which is my favourite, but I feel that it is quite even atm.
A thing that keeps on bothering me about WMWN is that the songs are too short, it is cut too tight. I know that on average the track lengths are about the same as on AYW, but I don't get the same feeling while listening to that one.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 16, 2019 9:00:35 GMT -5
As You Were is a more honest and meaningful album and I can't see past that.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 16, 2019 9:32:02 GMT -5
As You Were is a decent/good record but it has not aged well for me. I really only came back to Bold , Come Back To Me and I've All I Need a while after it came out. Never rated Wall of Glass at all, FWIW is too forced and Greedy Soul completely misses the essence of the live version and the other songs don't really do much for me with the exception of It Doesn't Have To Be That Way.
WMWN just feels more varied in it's sound and better produced and it's Beatles influences here and there, only make it feel more of a Liam record. It's not perfect, but tunes like Once, the title track, One of Us, NTIFY, The River, Gone are proper quality and they all sound different. Even the ones that are not, so often, part of my rotation, like Alright Now and Be Still are plesant listens, which i can't say of Chinatown, When I'm In Need and others. Misunderstood is also a proper tune, it's exactly what Beady Eye were trying to do in the second record, but lacked a more "punchy" production.
Even on a live setting, i feel his voice is better than it was during the AYW cycle, with the exception of the Glastonbury gig where he was sounding a bit rough.
I totally understand who prefers AYW over WMWN, but for me the choice is very clear but as people use the argument that over time opinions will change due to the record still being fresh, there's also a case to be made that the "return" factor of hearing Liam sing, after so many years, also affects opinions regarding AYW.
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Post by jh on Oct 17, 2019 7:26:36 GMT -5
As You Were is a decent/good record but it has not aged well for me. I really only came back to Bold , Come Back To Me and I've All I Need a while after it came out. Never rated Wall of Glass at all, FWIW is too forced and Greedy Soul completely misses the essence of the live version and the other songs don't really do much for me with the exception of It Doesn't Have To Be That Way. WMWN just feels more varied in it's sound and better produced and it's Beatles influences here and there, only make it feel more of a Liam record. It's not perfect, but tunes like Once, the title track, One of Us, NTIFY, The River, Gone are proper quality and they all sound different. Even the ones that are not, so often, part of my rotation, like Alright Now and Be Still are plesant listens, which i can't say of Chinatown, When I'm In Need and others. Misunderstood is also a proper tune, it's exactly what Beady Eye were trying to do in the second record, but lacked a more "punchy" production. Even on a live setting, i feel his voice is better than it was during the AYW cycle, with the exception of the Glastonbury gig where he was sounding a bit rough. I totally understand who prefers AYW over WMWN, but for me the choice is very clear but as people use the argument that over time opinions will change due to the record still being fresh, there's also a case to be made that the "return" factor of hearing Liam sing, after so many years, also affects opinions regarding AYW. It does'nt have to be this way - is for me my listening, the equivalent of Invisible sun...not to say they FEEL the same..just there raw and stand out head and shoulders over the content as being DIFFERENT...NOT BETTER....JUST DIFFERENT Listened to AYW this am and it still gets me going as much as it did. Love both albums but still drawn more to AYW for the raw Liam package. Yes it seems a tad less produced and dare I say, demo like on alot of it but...hey fuck it, we all clammered for all the Oasis demos over the years! Real shame Liam ditched off playing Come Back To Me live as well...WHAT A TUUUUUUNE!!!!
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Post by Headmaster on Oct 17, 2019 9:10:44 GMT -5
On AYW the highs are higher and the lows are lower I guess, on the other hand WMWN is more consistent, but now I'm so imersed in WMWN so I voted for it.
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Post by LightsOffInside on Oct 17, 2019 9:19:05 GMT -5
2 weeks ago I'd have said WMWN, but now the hype is died I'm back to AYW. I still think WMWN is a decent album, but I generally like the sound/production/songs on AYW a bit more. In fact I like every song on that album except FWIW.
Obviously this is just my opinion, but I feel that WMWN has a lot less "Liam" about it than AYW. On this he feels like just the singer, nothing else, whereas on AYW (for me) it felt more like his songs, his words etc.
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Post by wlsky on Oct 17, 2019 15:05:39 GMT -5
Listening to FWIW, brilliant ballad. WMWN needed one of these. Man you had Once, best post Oasis ballad.
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Post by wlsky on Oct 17, 2019 15:12:23 GMT -5
WMWN easy. I Like maybe All songs. Its crazy, to me its since BHN I didnt feel a sensation as it. Woah. And is voice Now is at top. In San francisco his voice during the River was epic. I couldn imagine All this after beady eye.
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Post by americanparkamonkey on Oct 17, 2019 15:22:46 GMT -5
I think WMWN is more even throughout, but I am not sure I will rate its best parts as high as the first four songs on AYW. Time will tell which is my favourite, but I feel that it is quite even atm. A thing that keeps on bothering me about WMWN is that the songs are too short, it is cut too tight. I know that on average the track lengths are about the same as on AYW, but I don't get the same feeling while listening to that one. The more I listen to it, the length of the tracks on WMWN has been bothering me as well. There was potential on a lot of these songs for longer intros and outros, etc. there's some cool stuff going on musically and they could have made more out of it. I suppose it may play into Liam working with people who's bread and butter are pop songs and such a big label, they may be pushing for the tunes to come it a certain length.
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Post by nymadferit on Oct 17, 2019 19:31:50 GMT -5
I feel like as you were blows the follow up out of the water. It is such a better album with such better songs.
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