blkc
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Post by blkc on Sept 12, 2019 13:19:16 GMT -5
Don't Believe The Truth was the first album Oasis released after I got into them, so this album always reminds me something special. I loved every moment before/during/after release and the tour. Didn't expect Noel would say it's one of the masterpieces. Oh well. I'm glad that I'm not the only one, this was my first too I liked Lyla a lot, then The Importance Of Being Idle was a huge thing to me. It's still one of my favourite song ever, I'm obsessed by that one. At the same moment they announced a gig in my town which was totally unexpected (Rouen in France), the only one they ever did here ^^ I was more and more into the new songs, we start listening to the older stuff with a friend, thought it was really good and decided to go see them. By the time the show was over, I was a complete fan and started buying all the other albums If I'm being honest I don't think it's a masterpiece, but it is and will remain a very special album to me too. Of course it doesn't compare to Definitely Maybe, but since I haven't lived that era the impact of that album will always remain stronger to me, even if I don't think it's perfect.
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Post by The Invisible Sun on Sept 12, 2019 13:53:56 GMT -5
Wow. I don't think Noel said a single truthful thing regarding Liam in that interview. Never got along? Bullshit.
The ex-Oasis band mates didn't want to be in Liam's band? they continued with Liam! They only peddled over to Noel when they found themselves out of a job!
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Post by emil on Sept 12, 2019 14:08:23 GMT -5
Has anyone who's been in Oasis said anything bad about Liam, other than Noel? At the same time, if what Noel says isn't true - wouldn't Gem etc speak up? You don't bite the hand that feeds. Depends.
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Post by emil on Sept 12, 2019 14:09:22 GMT -5
Dogging on Liams band in two interviews now, and saying no one wants to play with Liam in atleast two.
Noel sounds like a nice guy.
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Post by jxing on Sept 12, 2019 14:19:49 GMT -5
Has anyone who's been in Oasis said anything bad about Liam, other than Noel? At the same time, if what Noel says isn't true - wouldn't Gem etc speak up? Only Andy Bell.. Andy Bell: ‘Noel Gallagher has lied about a lot things over Oasis’ split’ Tom GoodwynAug 15, 2011 3:29 pm BST [https://ksassets]Credit: Dean Chalkley Guitarist says his former bandmate has 'used the press' to get a favourable public profile Former Oasis and current Beady Eye man Andy Bell has hit out at Noel Gallagher‘s comments over the demise of their former band. [https://ksassets]Gallagher had previously said that the band had pulled out of their planned performance at the Chelmsford leg of V Festival in 2009 because his brother “had a hangover” and that a key reason for Oasis‘ split was that he had tried to charge brother Liam to advertise his clothing company Pretty Green in the band’s tour programme, but Bell denied both those things. Asked by the Japan Times about what Gallagher had said about the demise of the band in Paris, Bell responded by saying: Bollocks! He lied about a lot of things. The argument about Pretty Green was lies, what he said about V Festival and the fake laryngitis was lies – I don’t know, maybe he’s convinced that’s the truth. I don’t know what goes on in his head. I know him, so I’m not disappointed. That’s what he’s like. I know how he spins the press. He’s used the press for years. Interviews and press are secondary for us, that’s his life. Bell added that people could draw their own conclusions, but said the fact that most of Oasis have remained together as Beady Eye spoke volumes. He said: That’s just Noel being Noel. All that shit. There were three of us in that room, and I’m telling you it was nothing to do with Pretty Green. I’m not going to add more fuel to the fire. But I’ve ended up in a band with Liam, Gem, Chris, with the same management, road crew. But at the same time, I wish him all the best. I want him to be happy. [https://static] Bell also spoke about the aftermath of Noel‘s departure and said the remaining members quickly agreed to carry on. He said: “We drove back to the hotel, had a few beers, sat together and said there’s nothing to keep us from playing together. We agreed it wouldn’t be the end just because Noel left.” www.nme.com/news/music/oasis-153-1271283
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Post by jorgendif on Sept 12, 2019 14:25:12 GMT -5
I’d really love to hear What Gem and Chris has to say about This . But they probably Can’t say anything. Gem is too much of a gentleman I guess and neither of them want to loose their job. Noel is an old boring idiot. He was the funnniest Guy but now he’s just out of it. The police... What would they say about that text ? Please Noel just shut the fick up. And How Come Paul doesnt want to talk to you anymore? Just play your new shit songs and pretend to like it
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Post by jorgendif on Sept 12, 2019 14:27:58 GMT -5
Yeah remember that Andy interview. Andy Bell wouldnt lie. Noel is toxic. So sad
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Post by oasisunited on Sept 12, 2019 14:46:33 GMT -5
"In mine now we are four ex Oasis" Who is the 4th one? He's counting Mike Rowe (Noel, Gem, Chris and Mike, who toured with Oasis).
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Post by oasisunited on Sept 12, 2019 14:48:28 GMT -5
does he mean the keyboard player? Is he the old one from Oasis? I have no idea who played keyboards for Oasis I guess they never let him join in band photo shoots or music videos. They toured with a couple different keyboard players: Mike Rowe (who plays with Noel now), Zeb Jameson (SOTSG tour and is on Familiar to Millions) and Jay Darlington (who was in Kula Shaker).
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Post by matt on Sept 12, 2019 14:56:00 GMT -5
With Liam you made important records. At the end of August there was the twenty-fifth anniversary of Definitely Maybe, your first album. Do you consider it your masterpiece? "My opinion doesn't matter. For me we did three great albums: this, (What’s the Story) Morning Glory? and Don’t Believe the Truth. I'm not stupid enough to not understand what these records mean for people. When someone tells me that they have changed their lives, I certainly won't start to argue ". Interesting. Is he back on the coke?
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Post by LightsOffInside on Sept 12, 2019 15:10:02 GMT -5
Not surprising really, he has always said how fond he is of the album/era, plus we know his hatred for Be Here Now. And really it was by far their most successful post 90's album, and it launched them back into popularity in the UK. And on an off topic note, I love that album! But I do also love coke....hmm.
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Post by matt on Sept 12, 2019 15:23:21 GMT -5
Not surprising really, he has always said how fond he is of the album/era, plus we know his hatred for Be Here Now. And really it was by far their most successful post 90's album, and it launched them back into popularity in the UK. And on an off topic note, I love that album! But I do also love coke....hmm. I can understand if people think it’s the best from the post-90s era but if it is superior, it’s only smidgenly better than Dig Out Your Soul and Shoulder of Giants. Not enough Liam sung Noel songs (too many Noel sung songs), A Bell Will Ring sucks massively, Let There Be Love is just too damned plodding and ponderous... hell, Noel had so many better songs stacked away that could easily have replaced 3-4 weaker songs on the album. The production, while stripped back, doesn’t do anything for the album and they might as well be Owen Morrised up. The whole ‘democracy’ where all members shared songwriting credits fucks this up - they’re not the fucking Beatles, only Liam and Noel deserve to write songs. Not because they are Oasis but their songs are just far superior to the other two. Liam’s songs hit the spot to be fair and they all flow nicely but once again, it’s a half baked album that needs to be left longer in the oven.
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Post by Flashbax on Sept 12, 2019 16:19:24 GMT -5
"Never. But I know why Liam would like the reunion. Because he is ashamed of what he has done and would like to correct his mistakes. All those concerts, especially in Italy, in which he left the stage as if nothing had happened in front of 70,000 people ... he had to think about it before".
Never heard of this before?
What about Noel quitting in 2000, only doing the gigs in the UK?
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Post by shannee on Sept 12, 2019 16:23:06 GMT -5
I’m surprised people are so negative about this interview but I guess I shouldn’t be. It gives a good glimpse at oasis from Noels perspective. There’s no 100% truth about these kinds of toxic relationships, just different perspectives. I think a lot of his points about the band and reasons for and against reunion are very valid. Also coming from Seattle, what he said about Live Forever is exactly what made me love Oasis.
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Post by Derrick on Sept 12, 2019 16:31:24 GMT -5
"Never. But I know why Liam would like the reunion. Because he is ashamed of what he has done and would like to correct his mistakes. All those concerts, especially in Italy, in which he left the stage as if nothing had happened in front of 70,000 people ... he had to think about it before".
Never heard of this before?
What about Noel quitting in 2000, only doing the gigs in the UK?
Noel didn't leave in the middle of a gig, like Liam several times did because "his voice was gone". But Noel quit the band minutes before they were due to come on stage at Rock En Seine though, no gig for the fans that night.
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Post by AubreyOasis on Sept 12, 2019 16:37:58 GMT -5
That's not what he says, actually... It's not a summary, nor a direct quote/translation of Noel's words. I haven't got time to translate it, sorry, but the actual interview is a bit different. About Liam and Oasis The "substance" of Noel's speech is what I transcribed. I don't write lies Actually, now I have seen the translation, it's quite clear you do write lies
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Post by ricardogce on Sept 12, 2019 16:38:38 GMT -5
BTW he did the same fuckin thing when this is the place came out Beautiful way to advertise your music noel Liam's recent interviews have been quite Noel heavy too. I would rather hear them talk about anything else. Yes, but Liam doesn't pretend to be above the pettiness of the feud. Noel's trying to have it both ways, acting like a dignified, detached observer for half an interview, then dragging Liam into it in the other half.
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emil
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Post by emil on Sept 12, 2019 17:23:31 GMT -5
Also coming from Seattle, what he said about Live Forever is exactly what made me love Oasis. Given to Fly > Live Forever
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Post by emil on Sept 12, 2019 17:25:11 GMT -5
Liam's recent interviews have been quite Noel heavy too. I would rather hear them talk about anything else. Yes, but Liam doesn't pretend to be above the pettiness of the feud. Noel's trying to have it both ways, acting like a dignified, detached observer for half an interview, then dragging Liam into it in the other half. Yeah. He comes off worse with his "I'm past Oasis, and Liam is dangerous and harasses my family I can't call him a brother anymore... BUT MAN HAVE YOU HEARD HIS SHIT BAND?!"
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Post by oneofus on Sept 12, 2019 19:28:02 GMT -5
I actually like this interview. It clears the air on alot of things. Also Noel mentions that even if they become cool with each other again....(leaves a window open)
Also it's nice to see Noel mention Dont believe the Truth as his 3rd best Oasis album.
I totally agree. It's my 3rd fav also. It should have got alot more attention then it did but Coldplay fever ran the world at that time lol
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Post by The Invisible Sun on Sept 12, 2019 19:55:31 GMT -5
Look at Noel's face. Look at Liam's reaction. They're having a blast. They're genuinely enjoying each others company.
Noel has become so bitter, good moments like this are lost to him.
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Post by Headmaster on Sept 12, 2019 23:21:42 GMT -5
Funny how Noel likes DBTT, maybe he is very fond of that era and for him it affects each album judgements, the band were getting on really well at that time, imo DBTT was like the Rolling Stones Tatoo You version of Oasis, not a masterpiece but a very good latter day album, even if in comparison Tatoo You is a much better album than DBTT.
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Post by Lennon2217 on Sept 13, 2019 0:04:51 GMT -5
Funny how Noel likes DBTT, maybe he is very fond of that era and for him it affects each album judgements, the band were getting on really well at that time, imo DBTT was like the Rolling Stones Tatoo You version of Oasis, not a masterpiece but a very good latter day album, even if in comparison Tatoo You is a much better album than DBTT. Those were very happy times for the band and us fans. Tremendous vibes all around. The music was the same as the previous two albums, half good, half just ok. In that regard nothing changed. By the end of 2005 Oasis gave us the illusion that things might be different going forward.
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Post by smash on Sept 13, 2019 0:14:21 GMT -5
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Post by mimmihopps on Sept 13, 2019 2:32:13 GMT -5
Funny how Noel likes DBTT, maybe he is very fond of that era and for him it affects each album judgements, the band were getting on really well at that time, imo DBTT was like the Rolling Stones Tatoo You version of Oasis, not a masterpiece but a very good latter day album, even if in comparison Tatoo You is a much better album than DBTT. I agree and like lennon said, it was a happy time for the band and fans. There was lots of positive vibe before and around release/tour. Noel was proud to having Zak in the band. Although they had to re-record DBTT over, I think they, especially Noel was happy with results. I've seen them twice on DBTT tour and twice on DOYS tour and I can say that they weren't same. One of good things on DOYS tour was that they played Slide Away and Supersonic which they didn't play on DBTT tour.
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