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Post by oasis6 on Sept 15, 2019 10:04:20 GMT -5
The atmosphere and flow of this song really rank it higher for me than the other 4 so far. I almost think this is like a perfect mix of Sail On, While the Song Remains the Same with a hint of the Right Sutff.
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Post by LlAM on Sept 15, 2019 10:39:25 GMT -5
most of his fans don't bother being on twitter, I'm not on twitter and will never bother ^^ This is exhibit A of what is wrong with the internet. You have no way of knowing whether or not his fans use Twitter. That is your opinion, not a fact. To state it as such without actual evidence doesnt make it so. The arguement that because you dont do something and are a fan is representative of all fans is a logical fallacy. His fans may use Twitter or not. Who knows. The point is that they didn't do zero promotion for it and it certainly wasn't limited to Instagram like you claimed. Also, it's a b-side to an EP. Seems to me a few posts on Twitter and Instagram is the right amount of promotion, as its targeted to people whom follow Noel and not worth the time or money beyond what they have already put in to marketing This Is The Place. So was it promoted or not? I'm confused 🥴 |
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Post by blkc on Sept 15, 2019 12:26:22 GMT -5
This is exhibit A of what is wrong with the internet. You have no way of knowing whether or not his fans use Twitter. That is your opinion, not a fact. To state it as such without actual evidence doesnt make it so. The arguement that because you dont do something and are a fan is representative of all fans is a logical fallacy. His fans may use Twitter or not. Who knows. The point is that they didn't do zero promotion for it and it certainly wasn't limited to Instagram like you claimed. Also, it's a b-side to an EP. Seems to me a few posts on Twitter and Instagram is the right amount of promotion, as its targeted to people whom follow Noel and not worth the time or money beyond what they have already put in to marketing This Is The Place. No it's not an opinion  "As of the first quarter of 2019, Twitter averaged 330 million monthly active users, a decline from its all-time high of 336 MAU in the first quarter of 2018. As of the first quarter of 2019, the company switched its user reporting metric to monetizable daily active users (mDAU)." Me saying that most of his fans doesn't bother being on twitter isn't just based on what I think his is fanbase. It's just that most of the people on this planet aren't on twitter. 330 million versus the whole population of this world isn't much. That's why I said that twitter wasn't as important than what you think.That's why I said that 2 twitter posts were nothing. I would agree if it was a very young artist with a very young fanbase, in this case maybe twitter is a very important thing, but for an artist like Noel, come on... Don't get me wrong, it's big, but in the end, a huge part of this world doesn't really care and numbers are very clear about this ^^ I also didn't said they did no promotion at all recently, just that they did no promotion for this specific song out of an instagram post and 2 tweets and that it wasn't much. You can insist all you want, it's nothing in terms of promotion. I'm not pretentious to the point of thinking that all Noel fans are thinking like me. I didn't attack you as a person, just what you said... Fair play would be to do the same. You're in the Noel section saying that nobody cares about Noel ^^ This is exhibit A of what is wrong with the internet. You have no way of knowing whether people care about him or not and whether people saw these tweets or not. That is your opinion, not a fact. To state it as such without actual evidence doesnt make it so...  |
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Post by AubreyOasis on Sept 15, 2019 12:58:21 GMT -5
Upgrading to 9/10 after the weekend
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Post by oasisunited on Sept 15, 2019 16:08:36 GMT -5
This is exhibit A of what is wrong with the internet. You have no way of knowing whether or not his fans use Twitter. That is your opinion, not a fact. To state it as such without actual evidence doesnt make it so. The arguement that because you dont do something and are a fan is representative of all fans is a logical fallacy. His fans may use Twitter or not. Who knows. The point is that they didn't do zero promotion for it and it certainly wasn't limited to Instagram like you claimed. Also, it's a b-side to an EP. Seems to me a few posts on Twitter and Instagram is the right amount of promotion, as its targeted to people whom follow Noel and not worth the time or money beyond what they have already put in to marketing This Is The Place. So was it promoted or not? I'm confused 🥴 My point was it was promoted on Twitter in addition to Instagram. |
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Post by Derrick on Sept 15, 2019 16:17:39 GMT -5
Fuck it, upping this to a 9/10. It’s a brilliant track, I have no significant criticism. 9/10 for me as well, it flows smoothly between the chorus, the middle eight, chorus again then back to the verse. Melody's charming & it's well produced with an echo of melancholy. |
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Post by chrismh on Sept 15, 2019 17:06:23 GMT -5
I think it could be my favorite Gallagher related song of this year so far. I really love it! 9/10
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Post by Headmaster on Sept 15, 2019 17:27:58 GMT -5
Great track, brilliant, my favourite from the EP.
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Post by oasisunited on Sept 15, 2019 17:30:09 GMT -5
This is exhibit A of what is wrong with the internet. You have no way of knowing whether or not his fans use Twitter. That is your opinion, not a fact. To state it as such without actual evidence doesnt make it so. The arguement that because you dont do something and are a fan is representative of all fans is a logical fallacy. His fans may use Twitter or not. Who knows. The point is that they didn't do zero promotion for it and it certainly wasn't limited to Instagram like you claimed. Also, it's a b-side to an EP. Seems to me a few posts on Twitter and Instagram is the right amount of promotion, as its targeted to people whom follow Noel and not worth the time or money beyond what they have already put in to marketing This Is The Place. No it's not an opinion "As of the first quarter of 2019, Twitter averaged 330 million monthly active users, a decline from its all-time high of 336 MAU in the first quarter of 2018. As of the first quarter of 2019, the company switched its user reporting metric to monetizable daily active users (mDAU)." Me saying that most of his fans doesn't bother being on twitter isn't just based on what I think his is fanbase. It's just that most of the people on this planet aren't on twitter. 330 million versus the whole population of this world isn't much. That's why I said that twitter wasn't as important than what you think.That's why I said that 2 twitter posts were nothing. I would agree if it was a very young artist with a very young fanbase, in this case maybe twitter is a very important thing, but for an artist like Noel, come on... Don't get me wrong, it's big, but in the end, a huge part of this world doesn't really care and numbers are very clear about this ^^ I also didn't said they did no promotion at all recently, just that they did no promotion for this specific song out of an instagram post and 2 tweets and that it wasn't much. You can insist all you want, it's nothing in terms of promotion. I'm not pretentious to the point of thinking that all Noel fans are thinking like me. I didn't attack you as a person, just what you said... Fair play would be to do the same. You're in the Noel section saying that nobody cares about Noel ^^ This is exhibit A of what is wrong with the internet. You have no way of knowing whether people care about him or not and whether people saw these tweets or not. That is your opinion, not a fact. To state it as such without actual evidence doesnt make it so... There is clearly a misunderstanding here. My initial reply was simply to draw attention to the fact that they did promote it on various social media channels besides Instagram. there's no promotion for that song except a post on NG instagram that was dead for 2 years If you meant social media in general in your original post, that is not what you wrote and unfortunately I only have your literal words to go by to understand your point. Otherwise, it appears that you are moving the goal posts a bit, based on the quote above from your first post and your statement in your last reply that "I also didn't said they did no promotion at all recently, just that they did no promotion for this specific song out of an instagram post and 2 tweets". If you are now amending the point to say that simply promoting the song on social media is not enough, that is your opinion and you are entitled to it. My point is that using social media to announce that a song which we already knew existed and was part of the EP to be released in two weeks seems like a valid use of marketing in order to remind people of the upcoming release of the EP in 2 weeks. They are not promoting a new album or re-introducing Noel to his fan base after a long hiatus away. They are simply reminding us that the EP is almost out. I would also wager that they use some sort of third-party social media management platform to help them choose what type of campaign is best for what they are doing and ensure it gets the right amount of exposure they are looking for (it was also posted about on Facebook at the same time as Twitter and Instagram). My opinion is that they amount of announcement seems about right for a song that will be widely available for purchase in about another two weeks. I never said that nobody cares about Noel. In fact, I said the contrary in that I believe that the announcement via various social media channels were to remind the casual Noel fans that the EP release is coming. I have no doubt that people will have seen these various posts through other media as well (the NME is notorious for writing articles around tweets and embedding them in their stories). We are not talking about the main track for the EP here -- merely a b-side to entice us into buying it, if you haven't already. In fact, this is all to say that it seems like we are saying the same thing, only that we have different views about whether or not they should be doing more (or less) to promote it. Lastly, if English is not your first language, then I apologize for not being more articulate in my previous post. I tend (wrongly) to assume that most people are native speakers, though I know I shouldn't (old habits, etc). |
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Post by The Invisible Sun on Sept 15, 2019 18:42:58 GMT -5
I forgot this existed. Still a 4.
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Post by modxxii on Sept 16, 2019 3:31:43 GMT -5
Love it. After a lot of listening: 8.
Great song.
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Post by seanrulesrh on Sept 16, 2019 4:02:33 GMT -5
I was shocked when this came out and some people bashed it. I'm glad that those people have listened to the tune more and more to finally love it. It's classic Noel with everything he's learned over this couple of years. Still an 8/10 for me
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Post by blkc on Sept 16, 2019 7:41:42 GMT -5
There is clearly a misunderstanding here. My initial reply was simply to draw attention to the fact that they did promote it on various social media channels besides Instagram. there's no promotion for that song except a post on NG instagram that was dead for 2 years If you meant social media in general in your original post, that is not what you wrote and unfortunately I only have your literal words to go by to understand your point. Otherwise, it appears that you are moving the goal posts a bit, based on the quote above from your first post and your statement in your last reply that "I also didn't said they did no promotion at all recently, just that they did no promotion for this specific song out of an instagram post and 2 tweets". If you are now amending the point to say that simply promoting the song on social media is not enough, that is your opinion and you are entitled to it. My point is that using social media to announce that a song which we already knew existed and was part of the EP to be released in two weeks seems like a valid use of marketing in order to remind people of the upcoming release of the EP in 2 weeks. They are not promoting a new album or re-introducing Noel to his fan base after a long hiatus away. They are simply reminding us that the EP is almost out. I would also wager that they use some sort of third-party social media management platform to help them choose what type of campaign is best for what they are doing and ensure it gets the right amount of exposure they are looking for (it was also posted about on Facebook at the same time as Twitter and Instagram). My opinion is that they amount of announcement seems about right for a song that will be widely available for purchase in about another two weeks. I never said that nobody cares about Noel. In fact, I said the contrary in that I believe that the announcement via various social media channels were to remind the casual Noel fans that the EP release is coming. I have no doubt that people will have seen these various posts through other media as well (the NME is notorious for writing articles around tweets and embedding them in their stories). We are not talking about the main track for the EP here -- merely a b-side to entice us into buying it, if you haven't already. In fact, this is all to say that it seems like we are saying the same thing, only that we have different views about whether or not they should be doing more (or less) to promote it. Lastly, if English is not your first language, then I apologize for not being more articulate in my previous post. I tend (wrongly) to assume that most people are native speakers, though I know I shouldn't (old habits, etc). There's definitely a misunderstanding, you answered to what was an answer from me to someone else but I because of this I confused you and the original person I was answering to. It's definitely my bad If we go back to what I was about, all I was saying was in response to the "nobody cares" about Noel. I did moved from my point because you've talked about tweets specifically, I then said that there was promotion for the EP before yes (itw, radio... and not only in the UK), around this is a place, but to show that it wasn't comparable to stuff for this song. That's all. I'm only talking about that specific song from the start, I'm not trying to find a way out to win the argument  I get what you said about the NME and all that. I think we also see things differently as I'm out of the UK, honestly here that song is completely going under the radar. They're famous worldwide so I don't only consider the UK to judge results, but I understand what you mean, in the UK perception is definitely different I don't deny the promotion at all, just think that it's obviously not enough to expect that specific song to make huge numbers or going big in 48 hours. In the end my point really just was that. That it was stupid to jump to conclusion after barely 48 hours based on a fan's youtube video to claim that "nobody cares about noel", that's really it  I'm not saying Noel is super popular these days, but that things weren't as bad as pictured. I know I speak way too much and too long and that it probably makes what I say confusing, I have trouble to make it short in english and really don't know why, haven't the same issue in french that's weird I also was a bit tired yesterday so sorry again for confusing you with someone else |
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Sept 16, 2019 11:40:08 GMT -5
It’s been stuck in my head for dayssssssssss.  |
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Post by moonbuilder on Sept 16, 2019 11:51:50 GMT -5
Yep 9/10 for me. Can't get enough of it and no criticism that comes to mind so far |
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Sept 16, 2019 17:07:18 GMT -5
I get a strong Arcade Fire feel in this track. I get ZERO Arcade Fire vibes. Not even remotely close. Same fucking song. Noel, you absolute thief.  |
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Post by seanrulesrh on Sept 16, 2019 18:01:44 GMT -5
I get ZERO Arcade Fire vibes. Not even remotely close. Same fucking song. Noel, you absolute thief. I was going to reply '?!?!!??' Until I saw your nickname |
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Post by peakyblinder91 on Sept 17, 2019 10:00:56 GMT -5
8 seems spot on to me. Really like this one, it's been stuck in my head the past few days.
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Post by Rivers on Sept 17, 2019 13:22:02 GMT -5
A questions for English speaking, are the lyrics "some of us need it sometimes" or "some of us needed some time"?
Thanks
BTW, it's a 9 for me (I'd add in current days, I know comparing to Oasis classics it's hard to rate it so high). Loving it anyway.
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Post by Teotihuacan on Sept 17, 2019 15:16:56 GMT -5
"Some of us need it sometimes" I assumed it was
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Post by magicman on Sept 17, 2019 23:34:16 GMT -5
love it
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Post by Worldsac on Sept 18, 2019 13:13:32 GMT -5
It's pretty catchy, I'll give it a solid 9
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Post by matt on Sept 18, 2019 14:49:46 GMT -5
The ‘la la la’ refrain is constantly on a loop in my head. It’s never overdone but is rewarding when it arrives in the middle and end. It’s one of those hooks and subtle moments that really set Noel apart from other songwriters.
One thing that is impressive is that it’s not outrageously derivative. And the best thing about him now is he’s stopped writing songs that directly ape The Beatles, The Kinks, Bowie and his influences are more subtle than obvious ever since Who Built The Moon. It seems that when he lost that original spark that made the glory years, he fell back on his old record collection to try and yield something. The more derivative they were, the worse they were I thought. He’s stopped doing that, using the studio to his advantage more and creating more ethereal and interesting sounds, pretty much ditching the sludgy dad rock guitars that blighted his songs post 2000s.
Overtime, this one will be seen as a classic in Noel’s solo career. A bit like Paul McCartney’s ‘Waterfall’ - maybe goes under the radar, but a gem nonetheless.
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Post by oasis6 on Sept 18, 2019 20:28:54 GMT -5
I also really enjoy the vocal take. The other ones weren't his strongest. This one he sounds very soulful and it sounds like he really is enjoying performing it.
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Post by andymorris on Sept 19, 2019 10:53:32 GMT -5
This and rattling rose are from the same session aren’t they ? Played back to back it’s kinda obvious
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I get what you said about the NME and all that. I think we also see things differently as I'm out of the UK, honestly here that song is completely going under the radar. They're famous worldwide so I don't only consider the UK to judge results, but I understand what you mean, in the UK perception is definitely different I don't deny the promotion at all, just think that it's obviously not enough to expect that specific song to make huge numbers or going big in 48 hours.
I'm not saying Noel is super popular these days, but that things weren't as bad as pictured. 
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