Post by TheEscapist on Jul 20, 2019 16:44:05 GMT -5
So, with a new HBO/BBC television adaptation coming later this year, I thought we should have a thread about the best fantasy book series ever. For those who don't know, His Dark Materials is a trilogy by Phillip Pullman that starts with a girl's best friend being kidnapped and ends with multiple universes joining together for a revolution against God. It's as creative, conceptual, and ambitious a series as you're ever gonna read, and over a decade after the shitty film adaptation of The Golden Compass, it looks like HBO are stepping in to do it right:
Any other fans on here? Anyone looking forward to the TV adaptation? Has anyone ever gone to a certain bench in a certain park in Oxford and cried? Get on it!
Post by theyknowwhatimean on Jul 20, 2019 18:29:44 GMT -5
I don’t see James McAvoy as Lord Asriel—bearded Daniel Craig looked more the part.
Still I’m looking forward to it. Was gonna read the books again this summer but will leave it now so that I can watch this (relatively) cold. Hopefully they serve the source material well. Then maybe The Book of Dust companion series can get adapted too!
Post by TheEscapist on Nov 3, 2019 16:10:41 GMT -5
I don't know. The casting is great, the establishing shots are gorgeous, but the dialogue felt really generic and the pacing was far too quick. We should have seen Lyra playing with the Gyptian boy at the start so that it felt like thread lines together rather than random stuff being shown to us. Not bad, but nowhere near as good as it could have been. 6/10. Still gonna check out the rest.
Post by theyknowwhatimean on Nov 10, 2019 16:47:22 GMT -5
Okay. It's warming up now. I was quite pleased with that second episode. It still feels a bit flat and lacking in momentum, but the performaces were better (still not sure about Ma Costa though) and the dialogue didn't seem so stiff and awkward this time. Also, I absolutely love the Art Deco set design and costumes for the Mrs Coulter and Lyra scenes.
One of my criticisms last week was I didn't think the show succeeded in establishing a distinct feel for its fantasy world like Game of Thrones and other epics before it have, right from their first episodes/movie installments; but, now we've seen a bit more of Lyra's world, it is starting to feel different enough to our own for this to be a fantasy worth escaping into.
And my positives from last week, chiefly how it's been shot and scored, carry over. It's very slick and (wanky lingo incoming) aesthetically pleasing.
Post by theyknowwhatimean on Nov 17, 2019 18:12:05 GMT -5
I wonder whether this show wouldn't've benefitted from having less time to work with?
I mean, did they really need eight hours to adapt a 400-page book? Seems a bit excessive, like Peter Jackson's Hobbit movies. Pullman's writing has more philosophical subtext and layers to wrestle with than Tolkien's, but tonally the texts are not a million miles apart. They're both on the lighter end of the fantasy genre. For film to capture the essence of either novel, it must not become overly baggy; and I think His Dark Materials is struggling to establish a sense of urgency at the moment.
Still, I'm looking forward to when they're all in the North. And the arrival of Lin-Manuel Miranda as Lee Scoresby might freshen things up next week.
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