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Post by MONO on Jul 12, 2019 1:49:05 GMT -5
When you say around same amount, you mean Liam is selling out arenas. Noel isnt. Liam is selling out big outdoor gigs, Noel isnt. And when you say selling around same amount you mean Liam is selling more than Noel. Oh and Liams songs chart higher. Noel's first solo album sold 600,00 copies in it's first year, double that of Liam's first solo album (as far as I can tell). A) Who cares about the success of people 8 years ago apart from the fact that one can clearly observe a downward spiral? B) Have you lived under a rock in the past 10 years or why haven't you heard of the changes in the music biz since then? C'mon, is the grand scheme of thing music biz, they're on the same level. Let's stick to the facts: They're not.
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Post by dampcottage on Jul 12, 2019 1:57:34 GMT -5
If Noel said that grass wasn't green it would become a week long argument, if Liam said the sky wasn't blue the same would happen, I can't believe all these people with their ridiculous outrage, "how can he get away with calling Scotland a third world country" really??? You really believe that this is not pure sarcasm? Englishmen aren't exactly a Scotsman's first choice for a guest at a tea party you know, northern monkeys and southern softies, Welsh sheep shaggers, the Irish are always drunk, the French are arrogant and lazy, apparently the Germans are always stealing the fucking sun loungers, and as for the Americans....... fucking hell, does me saying that mean that you believe that's really how I feel? Noel and Liam have been saying shit like this since day 1, nothing has changed and nothing will change, in 2-3 years time they'll have albums,singles,films to promote and someone else will be getting called a dickhead, seems like a lot of people have lost their ability to laugh at themselves and have a fucking sense of humour
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Post by bt95 on Jul 12, 2019 2:46:46 GMT -5
This must be one of his worst interviews ever? and by that I mean his answers. How many times will he talk about Jungle being the new and cool band? He's been talking about them for 5 years now. Open your mind and listen to other new stuff. there are plenty more good music out there today that is better than Jungle. He actually said 'There'll be a band that comes along like Jungle with a great first album but then they'll disappear for 5 years.' Read the answer... I don't think he meant it as in they're the only band with a good first album. He just used them as an example of a band that comes and does something then just goes off the face of the earth. I don't agree that there isn't good music around, like, but clearly in his little bubble that's his opinion, which is fine. Like I said, I don't agree with it.
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Post by bt95 on Jul 12, 2019 2:49:41 GMT -5
If Noel said that grass wasn't green it would become a week long argument, if Liam said the sky wasn't blue the same would happen, I can't believe all these people with their ridiculous outrage, "how can he get away with calling Scotland a third world country" really??? You really believe that this is not pure sarcasm? Englishmen aren't exactly a Scotsman's first choice for a guest at a tea party you know, northern monkeys and southern softies, Welsh sheep shaggers, the Irish are always drunk, the French are arrogant and lazy, apparently the Germans are always stealing the fucking sun loungers, and as for the Americans....... fucking hell, does me saying that mean that you believe that's really how I feel? Noel and Liam have been saying shit like this since day 1, nothing has changed and nothing will change, in 2-3 years time they'll have albums,singles,films to promote and someone else will be getting called a dickhead, seems like a lot of people have lost their ability to laugh at themselves and have a fucking sense of humour This, then you get the same people obsessed with the popularity contest clogging the threads with their same old nonsense. FWIW, I do think Noel was a bit more prickish than usual in that interview. The Capaldi stuff - he's getting schooled tbh. He's doing what George Harrison did to Liam back in the 90s and Liam came out on top there. Capaldi's no LG, but he can handle himself and will win the 'public battle'. But yes, everybody takes so much personally now. It's social media. It's thinking you have a right to be offended by anything. It's the attitude that you have to take sides. It's dead weird.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 12, 2019 2:50:03 GMT -5
Liam, Noel, who cares to check the name
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Post by dampcottage on Jul 12, 2019 3:24:17 GMT -5
If Noel said that grass wasn't green it would become a week long argument, if Liam said the sky wasn't blue the same would happen, I can't believe all these people with their ridiculous outrage, "how can he get away with calling Scotland a third world country" really??? You really believe that this is not pure sarcasm? Englishmen aren't exactly a Scotsman's first choice for a guest at a tea party you know, northern monkeys and southern softies, Welsh sheep shaggers, the Irish are always drunk, the French are arrogant and lazy, apparently the Germans are always stealing the fucking sun loungers, and as for the Americans....... fucking hell, does me saying that mean that you believe that's really how I feel? Noel and Liam have been saying shit like this since day 1, nothing has changed and nothing will change, in 2-3 years time they'll have albums,singles,films to promote and someone else will be getting called a dickhead, seems like a lot of people have lost their ability to laugh at themselves and have a fucking sense of humour This, then you get the same people obsessed with the popularity contest clogging the threads with their same old nonsense. FWIW, I do think Noel was a bit more prickish than usual in that interview. The Capaldi stuff - he's getting schooled tbh. He's doing what George Harrison did to Liam back in the 90s and Liam came out on top there. Capaldi's no LG, but he can handle himself and will win the 'public battle'. But yes, everybody takes so much personally now. It's social media. It's thinking you have a right to be offended by anything. It's the attitude that you have to take sides. It's dead weird. funny how things change, once upon a time people fought for freedom of speech,now we have more than ever before but some people are so busy dissecting every little thing said we actually have a situation whereby it's easier to just say nothing. Unfortunately one thing I will agree with in Noels interview is the youth of today are culturally lost and a lot -not all- are fucking morons, for example someones slightly angry post in this thread saying get your guitar and write some real songs, why don't you fucking do it yourself then? Remember the early 90s when oasis appeared, remember all those interviews about how music was fuckin awful and needed a good kick in the hole, what did they do? Picked up a guitar, made some tunes, told everyone and anyone to fuck right off and took over the world, who in the name of fuck is likely to do that now? NOBODY all too busy bitchin about what was said by a couple of oul vaginas who had their turn 20 odd years ago
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Post by Johnny Rhythm on Jul 12, 2019 3:40:55 GMT -5
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Post by mimmihopps on Jul 12, 2019 3:56:08 GMT -5
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Post by batfink30 on Jul 12, 2019 4:35:05 GMT -5
Old boy Noel will have a fit!
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Post by mossy on Jul 12, 2019 5:58:05 GMT -5
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Post by dampcottage on Jul 12, 2019 6:08:53 GMT -5
You're fucked now Noel, no more hangover cure for you
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Post by Aman on Jul 12, 2019 6:17:24 GMT -5
Noel is a prick atm no doubt, but this Capaldi is a bit of a muppet lol.
Some of these vids are cringe.
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Post by theyknowwhatimean on Jul 12, 2019 7:27:08 GMT -5
At this point Paul is quite genuinely my favourite Gallagher brother. Even with all his shortcomings I still find it easy to love Liam, to be honest. It only got difficult for me at the end of Beady Eye, and the years immediately after when we all thought he was done for career-wise. Then being a Liam fan became a bit embarrassing, more than anything else.
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Post by oasisunited on Jul 12, 2019 7:58:53 GMT -5
This, then you get the same people obsessed with the popularity contest clogging the threads with their same old nonsense. FWIW, I do think Noel was a bit more prickish than usual in that interview. The Capaldi stuff - he's getting schooled tbh. He's doing what George Harrison did to Liam back in the 90s and Liam came out on top there. Capaldi's no LG, but he can handle himself and will win the 'public battle'. But yes, everybody takes so much personally now. It's social media. It's thinking you have a right to be offended by anything. It's the attitude that you have to take sides. It's dead weird. funny how things change, once upon a time people fought for freedom of speech,now we have more than ever before but some people are so busy dissecting every little thing said we actually have a situation whereby it's easier to just say nothing. Unfortunately one thing I will agree with in Noels interview is the youth of today are culturally lost and a lot -not all- are fucking morons, for example someones slightly angry post in this thread saying get your guitar and write some real songs, why don't you fucking do it yourself then? Remember the early 90s when oasis appeared, remember all those interviews about how music was fuckin awful and needed a good kick in the hole, what did they do? Picked up a guitar, made some tunes, told everyone and anyone to fuck right off and took over the world, who in the name of fuck is likely to do that now? NOBODY all too busy bitchin about what was said by a couple of oul vaginas who had their turn 20 odd years ago This is why I (partially) disagree with Alan McGee's assessment that Oasis would still be huge if they came on the scene today. While the music and its themes may still resonate (and we care far less about drug use these days), their irreverent, don't give an F attitude would sink them in today's overly sensitive, everything offends me world. Couple that with social media and a modern day Oasis would be a PR nightmare. Nothing Noel said in this interview is anything different than anything he has been doing for 25 years. What has changed is the generation that is consuming his output. And, if they were part of that generation, I doubt that they would have had the same attitude with regards to the music industry and music in general that they had way back in the 90's. I'd rather have honest, irreverent and sarcastic Noel, instead of a non-sarcastic version of this.
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Post by philko87 on Jul 12, 2019 7:59:21 GMT -5
This Capaldi stuff is a bit harsh. But I don’t get all this “Noel’s changed” business. He’s always had a sharp mouth and acted up in interviews. And politically, when has he ever given the impression that he’s been anything other than a centrist? People are acting as though he was Citizen Smith in the 90s. He really wasn’t. He seems to be a bit more unapologetic about the extent of his music geekiness these days, but I don’t see how that’s a bad thing.
There’s no doubt he can be a bit of a helmet at times, but it’s not for any of us to say that he’s betraying his former self. We didn’t know him personally then, and we don’t now.
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Post by dampcottage on Jul 12, 2019 8:26:46 GMT -5
funny how things change, once upon a time people fought for freedom of speech,now we have more than ever before but some people are so busy dissecting every little thing said we actually have a situation whereby it's easier to just say nothing. Unfortunately one thing I will agree with in Noels interview is the youth of today are culturally lost and a lot -not all- are fucking morons, for example someones slightly angry post in this thread saying get your guitar and write some real songs, why don't you fucking do it yourself then? Remember the early 90s when oasis appeared, remember all those interviews about how music was fuckin awful and needed a good kick in the hole, what did they do? Picked up a guitar, made some tunes, told everyone and anyone to fuck right off and took over the world, who in the name of fuck is likely to do that now? NOBODY all too busy bitchin about what was said by a couple of oul vaginas who had their turn 20 odd years ago This is why I (partially) disagree with Alan McGee's assessment that Oasis would still be huge if they came on the scene today. While the music and its themes may still resonate (and we care far less about drug use these days), their irreverent, don't give an F attitude would sink them in today's overly sensitive, everything offends me world. Couple that with social media and a modern day Oasis would be a PR nightmare. Nothing Noel said in this interview is anything different than anything he has been doing for 25 years. What has changed is the generation that is consuming his output. And, if they were part of that generation, I doubt that they would have had the same attitude with regards to the music industry and music in general that they had way back in the 90's. I'd rather have honest, irreverent and sarcastic Noel, instead of a non-sarcastic version of this. oasis would never happen in this day and age, the world wants a "proper" rock n roll star but somebody somewhere will always have a problem with something they say,that clip sums it up nicely and when was that 2005 or thereabouts? The worry I have now is that given how the world is these days either Noel or Liam (or both!) is gonna say something so (apparently) bad and it's game over, dangerous fuckin times
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Post by fink621 on Jul 12, 2019 8:29:41 GMT -5
I don't really mind the Capaldi bashing. It seems like it's tongue in cheek and Capaldi is giving plenty back. The Liam stuff is getting nasty on both sides but Noel is entitled to have a dig back.
The one thing that's really pissing me off is his new found snobbery towards Oasis fans. Like we're not sophisticated enough to come on board his 'new radical change in direction', how he's outgrown us and that style of writing/songs. He wants to leave us in the dust, dribbling like idiots clutching our What's the Story vinyls. Like our primitive ears can't get to grip with this new sound, rather than the actual truth that it's mostly shite (I'm looking at you Black Star Dancing).
We all know he's become a snob in general, but for that snobbery to turn towards the fans who got him there is really starting to grate.
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Post by oasisunited on Jul 12, 2019 8:31:07 GMT -5
that clip sums it up nicely and when was that 2005 or thereabouts? I believe its from 2008 because it was in response to Noel saying that Jay-Z shouldn't be headlining Glastonbury, which of course, was taken to mean he didn't like Jay-Z when his opinion was that rap artists shouldn't headline a rock festival.
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Post by thomaslivesforever on Jul 12, 2019 8:44:50 GMT -5
Haha his comments are on the front of the bbc website now.
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Post by mouth on Jul 12, 2019 8:50:32 GMT -5
people on the internet tend not to understand either gallaghers nowadays. especially the fanbois around here. i remember when i said that liam was a broken person and that he lost his plot, probably being close to a depression, when beady eye was over and he had all these weird twitter outbursts. everybody here was like "no, it's liam gallagher! he's a rock star! he's just having a laugh! blahblahbalh!". turns out, liam WAS in a bad place, being all down and didn't know what to do with his life.
so listen what i have to say about noel here: he doesn't give a fuck about lewis capaldi and their relationship (if there is any) is not as half as bad as it sounds. on the other hand, lewis capaldi doesn't give a fuck about noel. it's all in good spirits. it's like a game of tennis for them.
and let me ad this to the "who is bigger discussion": noel obviously doesn't care about being relevant or not anymore. if so, he would record different music. he doesn't have to. he's rich as fuck, he's getting richer with every minute. liam on the other hand is not nearly as rich and he has to have some kind of success to pay his bills and the mothers of his children. i don't want to know what'd happened to him if his comeback wouldn't have been a success. eating a rats arse on "i'm a celebrity, get me out of here!" is a very possible option.
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Post by mossy on Jul 12, 2019 8:56:39 GMT -5
Haha his comments are on the front of the bbc website now. Whoever wrote the BBC article had their tongue firmly in their cheek and knows Noel was taking the piss. Have to laugh at the red tops who are describing his Lewis comments as a “vicious attack” for click bait. The BBC has chosen to replace all expletives with the word "Oasis" in the quotes that follow. He said: "[Oasis] Chewbacca should enjoy his 15 minutes. The greatest day of his life that I slagged him off or called him an idiot. "It's the greatest day of his [Oasis] life so far. He's just thinking, "Wow!" Well, I know you're Scottish and all that, but [Oasis] hell! "It is like a third world country, but for [Oasis]'s sake, man, you must have had a better day than this." www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-48964525X
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Post by mossy on Jul 12, 2019 9:01:27 GMT -5
people on the internet tend not to understand either gallaghers nowadays. especially the fanbois around here. i remember when i said that liam was a broken person and that he lost his plot, probably being close to a depression, when beady eye was over and he had all these weird twitter outbursts. everybody here was like "no, it's liam gallagher! he's a rock star! he's just having a laugh! blahblahbalh!". turns out, liam WAS in a bad place, being all down and didn't know what to do with his life. so listen what i have to say about noel here: he doesn't give a fuck about lewis capaldi and their relationship (if there is any) is not as half as bad as it sounds. on the other hand, lewis capaldi doesn't give a fuck about noel. it's all in good spirits. it's like a game of tennis for them. and let me ad this to the "who is bigger discussion": noel obviously doesn't care about being relevant or not anymore. if so, he would record different music. he doesn't have to. he's rich as fuck, he's getting richer with every minute. liam on the other hand is not nearly as rich and he has to have some kind of success to pay his bills and the mothers of his children. i don't want to know what'd happened to him if his comeback wouldn't have been a success. eating a rats arse on "i'm a celebrity, get me out of here!" is a very possible option. Gallagher comments always look terrible when written down but when you actually see them talking in a video it’s clear their tongues are in their cheeks and they’re taking the piss rather than being serious. The fans on here should really know this by now. Clearly Noel has no beef with Scotland. Let’s be honest, with national dishes of offal, heroin and deep fried mars bars Scots can’t really argue with him. (See I can do it too ;-P). X
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Post by dampcottage on Jul 12, 2019 9:10:22 GMT -5
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Post by fartpanic on Jul 12, 2019 9:31:15 GMT -5
Noel's first solo album sold 600,00 copies in it's first year, double that of Liam's first solo album (as far as I can tell). A) Who cares about the success of people 8 years ago apart from the fact that one can clearly observe a downward spiral? B) Have you lived under a rock in the past 10 years or why haven't you heard of the changes in the music biz since then? C'mon, is the grand scheme of thing music biz, they're on the same level. Let's stick to the facts: They're not. Hes going back to 8 years ago because its the last example he could find of Noel being more popular. Which pretty much sums up my point.
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Post by Wolf on Jul 12, 2019 9:52:06 GMT -5
Noel is now the Tyson Fury of the music industry:
A talented man who talks shite 24/7, and contradicts himself at every turn.
Nice one for calling your wife's birthplace a third world country as well.
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