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Post by matt on Jun 17, 2019 11:48:20 GMT -5
They’re all pleasant songs in their own way, Sail On being much more pleasant than the others.
But I’m not wowed by any Gallagher offering of late. Noel - not enough risks (I think he’s taken a big step back from the madness of Who Built The Moon unfortunately). Liam - too retrograde (glam rock? No fucking thanks).
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Post by Frank Lee Vulgar on Jun 17, 2019 12:17:52 GMT -5
They’re all pleasant songs in their own way, Sail On being much more pleasant than the others. But I’m not wowed by any Gallagher offering of late. Noel - not enough risks (I think he’s taken a big step back from the madness of Who Built The Moon unfortunately). Liam - too retrograde (glam rock? No fucking thanks). As far as Noel is concerned, I think that the somewhat middling quality of the EP is calculated. I'm not sure how much money and public attention an EP can get him, but it has to be way below albums. Liam, honestly - can we really expect more? Personally I feel like he's been improving with every album from DGSS to now, but he's never going to release a timeless classic, much less likely than Noel anyway. |
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Post by freddy838 on Jun 17, 2019 12:19:43 GMT -5
Rattling Rose is great, the other two are shite.
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Post by The Escapist on Jun 17, 2019 12:23:47 GMT -5
They’re all pleasant songs in their own way, Sail On being much more pleasant than the others. But I’m not wowed by any Gallagher offering of late. Noel - not enough risks (I think he’s taken a big step back from the madness of Who Built The Moon unfortunately). Liam - too retrograde (glam rock? No fucking thanks). As far as Noel is concerned, I think that the somewhat middling quality of the EP is calculated. I'm not sure how much money and public attention an EP can get him, but it has to be way below albums. Liam, honestly - can we really expect more? Personally I feel like he's been improving with every album from DGSS to now, but he's never going to release a timeless classic, much less likely than Noel anyway. That ship sailed decades ago. I just want good albums that don't sound like they were made in 1964, and I've been getting that from both of them for a minute. These EPs won't be mind-blowing, but I'm still hyped for Noel's LP4 and Why Me, Why Not. By the end of the year I hope to have good tunes from both Gallaghers in my 2019 playlist, and for people that supposedly died creatively in the 90's, I'm happy with that. |
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Post by funhouse on Jun 17, 2019 13:59:18 GMT -5
The fact that a track like Sail On absolutely crushes this poll says quite a lot about the quality of the songs he's releasing right now.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 17, 2019 14:05:01 GMT -5
The fact that a track like Sail On absolutely crushes this poll says quite a lot about the quality of the songs he's releasing right now. true. Sail on is basically an improved "Id pick you everytime".........however saying that, "Id pick you everytime" isnt near the top of the list of best songs from the first album cycle. sail on would be one of those surprising album fillers or B sides imo. Its certainly not a song that I would be thinking would be main single from the album for example. Dont get me wrong, I like the song very much but I think I probably enjoy it more simply because the rest isnt much to talk about. It hasnt got a high bar to top. |
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Post by Nyron Nosworthy on Jun 17, 2019 14:06:08 GMT -5
Black Star Dancing - 6/10
Rattling Rose - 4/10
Sail On - 5/10
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Post by AubreyOasis on Jun 17, 2019 15:07:47 GMT -5
Sail on is great work. I think Noel achieved exactly what he intended: a beautiful, evocative tune where even the small production details fit perfectly. Could have been a c-side (not b-side) of the great times
Sonically, Rattling Rose has some echoes of parts of WBTM. Sounds like if Noel tried to write something to leverage the ability of his new band to touch other registries. It's nice enough but lacks the emotion to be a great Noel song
About BSD, it has grown on me, but I think it's not what Noel tried to do: a failed experiment
All in all, happy he released this and waiting eagerly for the next one, but it's not the same (very high, imo) level of quality of CY and WBTM
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Post by mossy on Jun 17, 2019 15:25:12 GMT -5
Could have been a c-side (not b-side) of the great times These pyramidal vinyl sound wild man. X |
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Post by captaincrankshaft on Jun 17, 2019 15:25:47 GMT -5
Rattling Rose is great, the other two are shite. Freddy838 has hit the nail on the head. |
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Post by AubreyOasis on Jun 17, 2019 15:32:35 GMT -5
Could have been a c-side (not b-side) of the great times These pyramidal vinyl sound wild man. X In the great times, this type of song used to be the third one in the tracklist of the single: you know, the slow one before the cover  |
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Post by jazamora93 on Jun 18, 2019 8:30:46 GMT -5
'Don't stop the Happening' would shit on these 3. He already recorded it btw so i dont know why he hasnt released it
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Post by andymorris on Jun 20, 2019 14:32:09 GMT -5
BSD - 6
Rattling Rose - 7
Sail On - 6
Songs that would make good fillers on a record. Probably why they were released on an EP.
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Post by cigarsinhell on Jun 20, 2019 16:48:30 GMT -5
BSD - 6 Rattling Rose - 7 Sail On - 6 Songs that would make good fillers on a record. Probably why they were released on an EP. It's definitely BSD for me. When is Noel going to cough up a full LP's worth of music? |
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Post by goat on Jun 23, 2019 11:53:53 GMT -5
In my opinion Rattling Rose is the better song: it is more complex than the other two, has more variations and makes me feel like i'm watching a really cool TV show that takes place in the 70s.
Now, personally, my favorite of the three is Sail On: as everyone already said it's an improved version of I'd Pick You Every Time, and since i've always loved this one well, it's a big yes!
Black Star Dancing is really dull i think. But i appreciate that he tries other things, unfortunately it would need more work or maybe take it even further in the direction it was aiming for. And also i'm not surprised as i think i almost never agrees with what Noel chooses to release as singles or b-sides.
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Post by World71R on Jun 23, 2019 21:31:24 GMT -5
1. Sail On
2. Rattling Rose
3. Black Star Dancing
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Post by thebowmanbody on Aug 30, 2019 15:26:46 GMT -5
All of these new songs are terrible.
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Post by thebowmanbody on Aug 30, 2019 15:27:10 GMT -5
All of these new songs are terrible.
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Post by The Escapist on Aug 30, 2019 15:44:27 GMT -5
After a while:
1. Black Star Dancing
2. Sail On
3. Rattling Rose
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Post by AmericanZero on Sept 4, 2019 10:04:02 GMT -5
Upon release, Sail On was the only one I initially enjoyed-grew to absolutely love that song! Hated the other two, but have since come to really enjoy them.
1. Sail On
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2. Black Star Dancing
3. Rattling Rose
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Post by oneofus on Sept 4, 2019 10:33:16 GMT -5
Sail on is the only song I'll willingly listen to again from the 3.
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Post by theyknowwhatimean on Sept 4, 2019 10:46:44 GMT -5
They’re all pleasant songs in their own way, Sail On being much more pleasant than the others. But I’m not wowed by any Gallagher offering of late. Noel - not enough risks (I think he’s taken a big step back from the madness of Who Built The Moon unfortunately). Liam - too retrograde ( glam rock? No fucking thanks). I love glam rock. Well, some of it. Like with all seventies rock movements, it had its tedious excesses; but early on there was some really vibrant music made under that banner. I fail to see how Liam's stuff can be classed as glam rock, to be honest. Tunes like Shockwave and Once have more than a whiff of corporate micromanagement about them. For all the insincerity of the worst dregs of glam rock, it just had more of a sense of fun about it than what Liam's doing (or, indeed, what Noel's doing). |
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Post by matt on Sept 4, 2019 17:51:14 GMT -5
They’re all pleasant songs in their own way, Sail On being much more pleasant than the others. But I’m not wowed by any Gallagher offering of late. Noel - not enough risks (I think he’s taken a big step back from the madness of Who Built The Moon unfortunately). Liam - too retrograde ( glam rock? No fucking thanks). I love glam rock. Well, some of it. Like with all seventies rock movements, it had its tedious excesses; but early on there was some really vibrant music made under that banner. I fail to see how Liam's stuff can be classed as glam rock, to be honest. Tunes like Shockwave and Once have more than a whiff of corporate micromanagement about them. For all the insincerity of the worst dregs of glam rock, it just had more of a sense of fun about it than what Liam's doing (or, indeed, what Noel's doing). I just don’t like the vibe of it and the style of songs - even David Bowie, I totally dig the Thin White Duke stuff and Berlin trilogy artsy vibes and Blackstar over Ziggy Stardust which doesn’t do anything for me. That opinion is probably equivalent to someone shitting on Sgt Pepper for me, but I have tried Ziggy Stardust countless times and doesn’t register in the way his latter stuff does (although Five Years and Starman are belters). I think growing up I’ve been saturated by awful awful attempts at retro-glam from the slew of indie rock bands in the mid-2000s which has distorted my view of it. For example, I knew Kasabian had lost it when they released the glam track Shoot The Runner which was just awful compared to all singles before then. Heathen Chemistry is awash with such tripe too and it probably unconsciously desecrates what is objectively good music from the past. |
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Post by mossy on Sept 10, 2019 5:42:38 GMT -5
I love glam rock. Well, some of it. Like with all seventies rock movements, it had its tedious excesses; but early on there was some really vibrant music made under that banner. I fail to see how Liam's stuff can be classed as glam rock, to be honest. Tunes like Shockwave and Once have more than a whiff of corporate micromanagement about them. For all the insincerity of the worst dregs of glam rock, it just had more of a sense of fun about it than what Liam's doing (or, indeed, what Noel's doing). I just don’t like the vibe of it and the style of songs - even David Bowie, I totally dig the Thin White Duke stuff and Berlin trilogy artsy vibes and Blackstar over Ziggy Stardust which doesn’t do anything for me. That opinion is probably equivalent to someone shitting on Sgt Pepper for me, but I have tried Ziggy Stardust countless times and doesn’t register in the way his latter stuff does (although Five Years and Starman are belters). I think growing up I’ve been saturated by awful awful attempts at retro-glam from the slew of indie rock bands in the mid-2000s which has distorted my view of it. For example, I knew Kasabian had lost it when they released the glam track Shoot The Runner which was just awful compared to all singles before then. Heathen Chemistry is awash with such tripe too and it probably unconsciously desecrates what is objectively good music from the past. Oh no love, you’re not alone!* I really like Ziggy era Bowie, but definitely prefer his later albums and the Berlin trilogy. Station To Station is possibly my favourite track and album although it’s a tough call. *see what I did there? X |
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Post by World71R on Dec 10, 2020 17:59:31 GMT -5
Bump because man I wanted Black Star Dancing to take off more after that guitar solo to go into some sort of Reflektor-like dancefloor epic. That would've been slick. Still a good song but there's some unexplored potential in it.
Ranking: Sail On, Black Star Dancing, Rattling Rose. BSD has some funky guitars and explores a direction I'd love to see him delve into more.
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