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Post by andymorris on Mar 13, 2019 8:40:25 GMT -5
Sadly, in this age of short attention span, double album have 99,9% chance of failing. Most artists now release album with 10 or even less tracks because people dont buy records anymore or cant be bothered to listen to something that is longer than 40 minutes. Plus a double album would be even more expensive for the casual listener. A double album would be great, but it has 100% chance of not happening. It seems to me that the trend for most relevant artists now is to "stream-whore" themselves bigger numbers with needlessly long or at least overstuffed albums: see Drake's Scorpion, Migos' Culture II, Nicki Minaj's Queen, and Travis Scott's ASTROWORLD. I'm talking rock n roll music, not highly marketed music, so we kinda agree. Those artists that you mention are in a way different category, and flood streaming services with collabs to be in as much playlists as possible. The bigger the collab list the better. for instance, Drake and Nicky Minaj real album sales are low (physical or not), but if you take streaming in the total, it's rocketing. They're in everyone's playlist and on radio. It's a whole different market that will try and push the listener to click next. So the longer album the better. I'm talking real album sales, not just streaming. And with that in mind, double albums are a very bad idea. I highly doubt Noel's streaming numbers are very high. |
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Post by The Escapist on Mar 13, 2019 9:16:25 GMT -5
It seems to me that the trend for most relevant artists now is to "stream-whore" themselves bigger numbers with needlessly long or at least overstuffed albums: see Drake's Scorpion, Migos' Culture II, Nicki Minaj's Queen, and Travis Scott's ASTROWORLD. I'm talking rock n roll music, not highly marketed music, so we kinda agree. Those artists that you mention are in a way different category, and flood streaming services with collabs to be in as much playlists as possible. The bigger the collab list the better. for instance, Drake and Nicky Minaj real album sales are low (physical or not), but if you take streaming in the total, it's rocketing. They're in everyone's playlist and on radio. It's a whole different market that will try and push the listener to click next. So the longer album the better. I'm talking real album sales, not just streaming. And with that in mind, double albums are a very bad idea. I highly doubt Noel's streaming numbers are very high. Ah, okay. Like you say, he's never gonna be actually relevant with big streaming numbers again, so I don't suppose there's much point in a long album if it's gonna hurt the physical-sales market he has. Personally, I don't much care about the form he releases it in - single album, double album, short, long, whatever. I just want him to continue the shift in attitude he started on Who Built the Moon. |
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Post by Rolo on Mar 13, 2019 9:22:53 GMT -5
I just want him to use his best material, all this "can only use the ones wrote in a studio" is nonsense. I don't care if it was written in the studio or at home taking a shite, just use your best songs for god sake.
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Post by stinenat on Mar 13, 2019 9:52:55 GMT -5
Agreed. I understand the Holmes stuff being the way it was for a cohesive sound on the album, but then why just tack on Dead in the Water?
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Post by The Milkman & The Riverman on Mar 13, 2019 10:29:35 GMT -5
You know what Noel should do in this case...Release a double album. Side A : Big choruses, songs, classic Noel stuff, Side B : Space Jazz. You'll thank me later, Ignition... Or whatever his record company is. Sadly, in this age of short attention span, double album have 99,9% chance of failing. Most artists now release album with 10 or even less tracks because people dont buy records anymore or cant be bothered to listen to something that is longer than 40 minutes. Plus a double album would be even more expensive for the casual listener. A double album would be great, but it has 100% chance of not happening.
I think most of Noel's sells are coming from his fanbase anyway, he's hardly a trending new artist so the question is, does that really matter. However, i can imagine announcement of a double album from Noel Gallagher causing a bigger hype than any of his last records. This place, NME, music media in general would go nuts. It hasn't been done in a while, it would get more attention for sure.
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Post by Lennon2217 on Mar 13, 2019 10:49:04 GMT -5
Sadly, in this age of short attention span, double album have 99,9% chance of failing. Most artists now release album with 10 or even less tracks because people dont buy records anymore or cant be bothered to listen to something that is longer than 40 minutes. Plus a double album would be even more expensive for the casual listener. A double album would be great, but it has 100% chance of not happening. I think most of Noel's sells are coming from his fanbase anyway, he's hardly a trending new artist so the question is, does that really matter. However, i can imagine announcement of a double album from Noel Gallagher causing a bigger hype than any of his last records. This place, NME, music media in general would go nuts. It hasn't been done in a while, it would get more attention for sure.
The best shot at an Oasis related double album was with DBTT. Still an era of album sales. Noel bragged they worked on 40 songs for DBTT. I feel like those barely have been heard. |
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Post by The Milkman & The Riverman on Mar 13, 2019 10:54:43 GMT -5
I think most of Noel's sells are coming from his fanbase anyway, he's hardly a trending new artist so the question is, does that really matter. However, i can imagine announcement of a double album from Noel Gallagher causing a bigger hype than any of his last records. This place, NME, music media in general would go nuts. It hasn't been done in a while, it would get more attention for sure.
The best shot at an Oasis related double album was with DBTT. Still an era of album sales. Noel bragged they worked on 40 songs for DBTT. I feel like those barely have been heard. Hey, there was Stop The Clocks  |
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Post by Manualex on Mar 13, 2019 11:45:15 GMT -5
The best shot at an Oasis related double album was with DBTT. Still an era of album sales. Noel bragged they worked on 40 songs for DBTT. I feel like those barely have been heard. Hey, there was Stop The Clocks Récord Machine, Muffins, Those Swollen Hand Blues, Lord Dont Slow Me Down, thats half a record. The Roller could've been in it as well. |
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Post by Lennon2217 on Mar 13, 2019 12:24:53 GMT -5
Hey, there was Stop The Clocks Récord Machine, Muffins, Those Swollen Hand Blues, Lord Dont Slow Me Down, thats half a record. The Roller could've been in it as well. Boy With The Blues...................... |
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Post by The Crimson Rambler on Mar 13, 2019 12:53:58 GMT -5
I think most of Noel's sells are coming from his fanbase anyway, he's hardly a trending new artist so the question is, does that really matter. However, i can imagine announcement of a double album from Noel Gallagher causing a bigger hype than any of his last records. This place, NME, music media in general would go nuts. It hasn't been done in a while, it would get more attention for sure.
The best shot at an Oasis related double album was with DBTT. Still an era of album sales. Noel bragged they worked on 40 songs for DBTT. I feel like those barely have been heard. If we use the SOTSOG era as the cut off point here is the comprehensive list of songs available during the making of Don't Believe the Truth: SOTSOG Era
- For One So Young [Unreleased] - Let There Be Love - Revolution Song HC Era
- (Get Off Your) High Horse Lady - Instrumental #1 (Beetlejuice) [Unreleased] - Revival* [Unreleased]
- Sing (If The Song’s Worth Singing)** [Unreleased]- Stop The Clocks - The Good Rebel - The Roller DBTT Era
- A Bell Will Ring - Ain’t Got Nothin’ - Boy With The Blues - Can Y’See It Now? (I Can See It Now!!) - Don’t Be Down [Unreleased] - Eyeball Tickler - God Help Us All [Unfinished]
- Guess God Thinks I’m Abel - I’m Outta Time [Unfinished]
- (I Wanna Live In A Dream In My) Record Machine - Keep The Dream Alive - Let It Come Down Over Me - Lord Don’t Slow Me Down - Love Like A Bomb - Lyla - Mucky Fingers - Part Of The Queue - Pass Me Down The Wine - Sittin’ Here In Silence (On My Own) - Soldier On - Sweet & Sour [Unreleased] - The Importance Of Being Idle - The Magic Can’t Be Right [Unreleased] - The Meaning Of Soul - The Morning Son***
- The Quiet Ones - Those Swollen Hand Blues - Turn Up The Sun - Who Put The Weight Of The World On My Shoulders - Won’t Let You Down - Velvet Building - [No Known Title - “…show me your love…”] [Unreleased] - [No Known Title - “…in my own time…”] [Unreleased] * Noel is quoted as saying he thinks this possibly turned into 'The Hindu Times'.
** This song turned into 'Lyla'
*** This song likely existed under the title 'I Stand Alone'.Songs in grey excluded, that's 39 tracks out of about 60 I believe. |
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Post by matt on Mar 13, 2019 14:16:17 GMT -5
The best shot at an Oasis related double album was with DBTT. Still an era of album sales. Noel bragged they worked on 40 songs for DBTT. I feel like those barely have been heard. If we use the SOTSOG era as the cut off point here is the comprehensive list of songs available during the making of Don't Believe the Truth: SOTSOG Era
- For One So Young [Unreleased] - Let There Be Love - Revolution Song HC Era
- (Get Off Your) High Horse Lady - Instrumental #1 (Beetlejuice) [Unreleased] - Revival* [Unreleased]
- Sing (If The Song’s Worth Singing)** [Unreleased]- Stop The Clocks - The Good Rebel - The Roller DBTT Era
- A Bell Will Ring - Ain’t Got Nothin’ - Boy With The Blues - Can Y’See It Now? (I Can See It Now!!) - Don’t Be Down [Unreleased] - Eyeball Tickler - God Help Us All [Unfinished]
- Guess God Thinks I’m Abel - I’m Outta Time [Unfinished]
- (I Wanna Live In A Dream In My) Record Machine - Keep The Dream Alive - Let It Come Down Over Me - Lord Don’t Slow Me Down - Love Like A Bomb - Lyla - Mucky Fingers - Part Of The Queue - Pass Me Down The Wine - Sittin’ Here In Silence (On My Own) - Soldier On - Sweet & Sour [Unreleased] - The Importance Of Being Idle - The Magic Can’t Be Right [Unreleased] - The Meaning Of Soul - The Morning Son***
- The Quiet Ones - Those Swollen Hand Blues - Turn Up The Sun - Who Put The Weight Of The World On My Shoulders - Won’t Let You Down - Velvet Building - [No Known Title - “…show me your love…”] [Unreleased] - [No Known Title - “…in my own time…”] [Unreleased] * Noel is quoted as saying he thinks this possibly turned into 'The Hindu Times'.
** This song turned into 'Lyla'
*** This song likely existed under the title 'I Stand Alone'.Songs in grey excluded, that's 39 tracks out of about 60 I believe. Velvet Building?! What the hell is that (and did it turn into another tune?), literally never come across this one in all my time as an Oasis fan. The title sounds like a sleazy 70s glam rock euphemism for a vagina. Probably a Gem tune then. |
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Post by Rolo on Mar 13, 2019 14:20:57 GMT -5
The best shot at an Oasis related double album was with DBTT. Still an era of album sales. Noel bragged they worked on 40 songs for DBTT. I feel like those barely have been heard. If we use the SOTSOG era as the cut off point here is the comprehensive list of songs available during the making of Don't Believe the Truth: SOTSOG Era
- For One So Young [Unreleased] - Let There Be Love - Revolution Song HC Era
- (Get Off Your) High Horse Lady - Instrumental #1 (Beetlejuice) [Unreleased] - Revival* [Unreleased]
- Sing (If The Song’s Worth Singing)** [Unreleased]- Stop The Clocks - The Good Rebel - The Roller DBTT Era
- A Bell Will Ring - Ain’t Got Nothin’ - Boy With The Blues - Can Y’See It Now? (I Can See It Now!!) - Don’t Be Down [Unreleased] - Eyeball Tickler - God Help Us All [Unfinished]
- Guess God Thinks I’m Abel - I’m Outta Time [Unfinished]
- (I Wanna Live In A Dream In My) Record Machine - Keep The Dream Alive - Let It Come Down Over Me - Lord Don’t Slow Me Down - Love Like A Bomb - Lyla - Mucky Fingers - Part Of The Queue - Pass Me Down The Wine - Sittin’ Here In Silence (On My Own) - Soldier On - Sweet & Sour [Unreleased]- The Importance Of Being Idle - The Magic Can’t Be Right [Unreleased]- The Meaning Of Soul - The Morning Son***
- The Quiet Ones - Those Swollen Hand Blues - Turn Up The Sun - Who Put The Weight Of The World On My Shoulders - Won’t Let You Down - Velvet Building- [No Known Title - “…show me your love…”] [Unreleased] - [No Known Title - “…in my own time…”] [Unreleased] * Noel is quoted as saying he thinks this possibly turned into 'The Hindu Times'.
** This song turned into 'Lyla'
*** This song likely existed under the title 'I Stand Alone'.Songs in grey excluded, that's 39 tracks out of about 60 I believe. Nice work, wasn't Evil Eye around during the DBTT sessions? May be thinking of the DOYS sessions. Any more information on the ones I have bolded? |
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Post by The Crimson Rambler on Mar 13, 2019 14:21:12 GMT -5
If we use the SOTSOG era as the cut off point here is the comprehensive list of songs available during the making of Don't Believe the Truth: SOTSOG Era
- For One So Young [Unreleased] - Let There Be Love - Revolution Song HC Era
- (Get Off Your) High Horse Lady - Instrumental #1 (Beetlejuice) [Unreleased] - Revival* [Unreleased]
- Sing (If The Song’s Worth Singing)** [Unreleased]- Stop The Clocks - The Good Rebel - The Roller DBTT Era
- A Bell Will Ring - Ain’t Got Nothin’ - Boy With The Blues - Can Y’See It Now? (I Can See It Now!!) - Don’t Be Down [Unreleased] - Eyeball Tickler - God Help Us All [Unfinished]
- Guess God Thinks I’m Abel - I’m Outta Time [Unfinished]
- (I Wanna Live In A Dream In My) Record Machine - Keep The Dream Alive - Let It Come Down Over Me - Lord Don’t Slow Me Down - Love Like A Bomb - Lyla - Mucky Fingers - Part Of The Queue - Pass Me Down The Wine - Sittin’ Here In Silence (On My Own) - Soldier On - Sweet & Sour [Unreleased] - The Importance Of Being Idle - The Magic Can’t Be Right [Unreleased] - The Meaning Of Soul - The Morning Son***
- The Quiet Ones - Those Swollen Hand Blues - Turn Up The Sun - Who Put The Weight Of The World On My Shoulders - Won’t Let You Down - Velvet Building - [No Known Title - “…show me your love…”] [Unreleased] - [No Known Title - “…in my own time…”] [Unreleased] * Noel is quoted as saying he thinks this possibly turned into 'The Hindu Times'.
** This song turned into 'Lyla'
*** This song likely existed under the title 'I Stand Alone'.Songs in grey excluded, that's 39 tracks out of about 60 I believe. Velvet Building?! What the hell is that, literally never come across this one in all my time as an Oasis fan. The title sounds like a sleazy 70s glam rock euphemism for a vagina. Probably a Gem tune then. That was the tune that turned into 'Flick of the Finger'. (Off the top of my head) I believe it's an instrumental from the Death In Vegas produced session, with Liam being the main (or sole) songwriter. |
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Post by matt on Mar 13, 2019 14:23:59 GMT -5
Velvet Building?! What the hell is that, literally never come across this one in all my time as an Oasis fan. The title sounds like a sleazy 70s glam rock euphemism for a vagina. Probably a Gem tune then. That was the tune that turned into 'Flick of the Finger'. (Off the top of my head) I believe it's an instrumental from the Death In Vegas produced session, with Liam being the main (or sole) songwriter. Makes sense - the songs looping and loose structure might have worked well with Death In Vegas treatment. |
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Post by The Crimson Rambler on Mar 13, 2019 14:32:09 GMT -5
If we use the SOTSOG era as the cut off point here is the comprehensive list of songs available during the making of Don't Believe the Truth: SOTSOG Era
- For One So Young [Unreleased] - Let There Be Love - Revolution Song HC Era
- (Get Off Your) High Horse Lady - Instrumental #1 (Beetlejuice) [Unreleased] - Revival* [Unreleased]
- Sing (If The Song’s Worth Singing)** [Unreleased]- Stop The Clocks - The Good Rebel - The Roller DBTT Era
- A Bell Will Ring - Ain’t Got Nothin’ - Boy With The Blues - Can Y’See It Now? (I Can See It Now!!) - Don’t Be Down [Unreleased] - Eyeball Tickler - God Help Us All [Unfinished]
- Guess God Thinks I’m Abel - I’m Outta Time [Unfinished]
- (I Wanna Live In A Dream In My) Record Machine - Keep The Dream Alive - Let It Come Down Over Me - Lord Don’t Slow Me Down - Love Like A Bomb - Lyla - Mucky Fingers - Part Of The Queue - Pass Me Down The Wine - Sittin’ Here In Silence (On My Own) - Soldier On - Sweet & Sour [Unreleased]- The Importance Of Being Idle - The Magic Can’t Be Right [Unreleased]- The Meaning Of Soul - The Morning Son***
- The Quiet Ones - Those Swollen Hand Blues - Turn Up The Sun - Who Put The Weight Of The World On My Shoulders - Won’t Let You Down - Velvet Building- [No Known Title - “…show me your love…”] [Unreleased] - [No Known Title - “…in my own time…”] [Unreleased] * Noel is quoted as saying he thinks this possibly turned into 'The Hindu Times'.
** This song turned into 'Lyla'
*** This song likely existed under the title 'I Stand Alone'.Songs in grey excluded, that's 39 tracks out of about 60 I believe. Nice work, wasn't Evil Eye around during the DBTT sessions? May be thinking of the DOYS sessions. Any more information on the ones I have bolded? Cheers. Evil Eye is indeed a DOYS era song. I believe 'Don't Be Down' is a song Noel wrote for Anais around the year 2002/03. I think he stated it would never be released. Here's a quote about 'Sweet & Sour': 'The Magic Can't Be Right' was written around 2002/03. Noel claims it sounds like The Rolling Stones. 'Velvet Building' was the tune that turned into 'Flick of the Finger'. (Off the top of my head) I believe it's an instrumental from the Death In Vegas produced session, with Liam being the main (or sole) songwriter. |
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Post by Lennon2217 on Mar 13, 2019 20:12:05 GMT -5
Nice work, wasn't Evil Eye around during the DBTT sessions? May be thinking of the DOYS sessions. Any more information on the ones I have bolded? Cheers. Evil Eye is indeed a DOYS era song. I believe 'Don't Be Down' is a song Noel wrote for Anais around the year 2002/03. I think he stated it would never be released. Here's a quote about 'Sweet & Sour': 'The Magic Can't Be Right' was written around 2002/03. Noel claims it sounds like The Rolling Stones. 'Velvet Building' was the tune that turned into 'Flick of the Finger'. (Off the top of my head) I believe it's an instrumental from the Death In Vegas produced session, with Liam being the main (or sole) songwriter. Man I totally forgot about “Don’t Be Down”. I’ll aways burn a candle for “Slow”. I also assumed “The Magic Can’t Be Right” became “You Know We Can’t Go Back”. No proof on that. Just a gut feeling. |
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Post by frederickacquiesce on Mar 14, 2019 2:52:08 GMT -5
If we use the SOTSOG era as the cut off point here is the comprehensive list of songs available during the making of Don't Believe the Truth: SOTSOG Era
- For One So Young [Unreleased] - Let There Be Love - Revolution Song HC Era
- (Get Off Your) High Horse Lady - Instrumental #1 (Beetlejuice) [Unreleased] - Revival* [Unreleased]
- Sing (If The Song’s Worth Singing)** [Unreleased]- Stop The Clocks - The Good Rebel - The Roller DBTT Era
- A Bell Will Ring - Ain’t Got Nothin’ - Boy With The Blues - Can Y’See It Now? (I Can See It Now!!) - Don’t Be Down [Unreleased] - Eyeball Tickler - God Help Us All [Unfinished]
- Guess God Thinks I’m Abel - I’m Outta Time [Unfinished]
- (I Wanna Live In A Dream In My) Record Machine - Keep The Dream Alive - Let It Come Down Over Me - Lord Don’t Slow Me Down - Love Like A Bomb - Lyla - Mucky Fingers - Part Of The Queue - Pass Me Down The Wine - Sittin’ Here In Silence (On My Own) - Soldier On - Sweet & Sour [Unreleased] - The Importance Of Being Idle - The Magic Can’t Be Right [Unreleased] - The Meaning Of Soul - The Morning Son***
- The Quiet Ones - Those Swollen Hand Blues - Turn Up The Sun - Who Put The Weight Of The World On My Shoulders - Won’t Let You Down - Velvet Building - [No Known Title - “…show me your love…”] [Unreleased] - [No Known Title - “…in my own time…”] [Unreleased] * Noel is quoted as saying he thinks this possibly turned into 'The Hindu Times'.
** This song turned into 'Lyla'
*** This song likely existed under the title 'I Stand Alone'.Songs in grey excluded, that's 39 tracks out of about 60 I believe. You missed "Slow". "In an article for the September 1997 edition of Q Magazine, co-producer Owen Morris commented briefly on this song. « [Noel] has the best verse melodies, the best bridges, the best choruses. And he's getting better. Broader and wider, more soulful - he's already got a heartbreaking soul song called 'Slow' which should be right for the fourth album. » " I hope all this songs will get a release someday. Maybe in a deluxe edition album or in an anthology. |
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Post by frederickacquiesce on Mar 14, 2019 4:27:46 GMT -5
There is still somewhere in the World Wide Web recordings/leaks of "In my own time" ?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2019 7:04:37 GMT -5
No. @godhelpusall , you do need to learn accept other people's opinion with respect before saying "I don't want you here, and neither do the rest of the people on this forum". You may disagree others, but insulting them just because they have another opinions as you? Quite childish behavour I must say. Calm down and watch your language. Cheers. I'm sorry Mod Mimmi, I'll stop blowing up the forum with my opinions, but I came here almost a decade ago to find people like me -- those who have a real, authentic emotional connection to Noel's music, old and new. So it makes me angry when certain folks on here have done nothing but complain, pout, and bully those of us who love the simple melodies that he creates year after year. These critics have accelerated their condescension and pretentiousness whenever Noel writes a song that more that two people enjoy. To them, we are all monkeys dancing around the monolith. They pout and puff that Noel writes something as simple and gorgeous as Just Let It Come Down Over Me or I'd Pick You Every Time, declaiming that we should instead enjoy and appreciate a 27-minute AA track. Maybe I am just a simpleton, but hearing "shoot a hole into the sun" a hundred times in a row on a Saturday night just isn't inspiring, interesting, or emotionally endearing to me, or anyone I know. What's more--We're continuously castigated on here for appreciating the old-school beautiful melodies that mean so much to us. I know I speak for the silent marjory on here when I say we reject the Pitchfork fascists that hate anything Noel does that reminds them of Oasis. To their logic, we're un-evolved creatures lapping up Here's A Candle or Leave My Guitar Alone -- "daft" songs that need more random doorbells and yips to be cool. If Noel doesn't write ONLY ten minute, DJ-friendly, space jazz electronic dance music from now on, then Noel is forever resigned to be "dad-rock" and "boring." In a world where the silent majority rarely has a voice, I decided to speak up and defend Noel where songs like If I Had a Gun, Dead in the Water, You Know We Can't Go Back, If Love is the Law, The Man Who Build the Moon, Don't Stop / Bye Bye My Family, While The Song Remains the Same, and Waiting for the Rapture (acoustic) are appreciated and celebrated for the genius and beauty that they are. In a thousand years from now, no one will remember the hallowed remixes, the annoying Fort Knox doorbell, or (the truly boring) Right Stuff....The world will sing Don't Look Back in Anger in glorious revelry, and I couldn't be happier. That's the legacy Noel deserves, and the one he'll get. Where you went wrong is by actually listening to some of the crushing bores here. Either ignore them or wind them up into the kind of "Mods! Mods! Help me mods!" hilarity that I extracted from spameli. |
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Post by The Crimson Rambler on Mar 14, 2019 13:19:55 GMT -5
If we use the SOTSOG era as the cut off point here is the comprehensive list of songs available during the making of Don't Believe the Truth: SOTSOG Era
- For One So Young [Unreleased] - Let There Be Love - Revolution Song HC Era
- (Get Off Your) High Horse Lady - Instrumental #1 (Beetlejuice) [Unreleased] - Revival* [Unreleased]
- Sing (If The Song’s Worth Singing)** [Unreleased]- Stop The Clocks - The Good Rebel - The Roller DBTT Era
- A Bell Will Ring - Ain’t Got Nothin’ - Boy With The Blues - Can Y’See It Now? (I Can See It Now!!) - Don’t Be Down [Unreleased] - Eyeball Tickler - God Help Us All [Unfinished]
- Guess God Thinks I’m Abel - I’m Outta Time [Unfinished]
- (I Wanna Live In A Dream In My) Record Machine - Keep The Dream Alive - Let It Come Down Over Me - Lord Don’t Slow Me Down - Love Like A Bomb - Lyla - Mucky Fingers - Part Of The Queue - Pass Me Down The Wine - Sittin’ Here In Silence (On My Own) - Soldier On - Sweet & Sour [Unreleased] - The Importance Of Being Idle - The Magic Can’t Be Right [Unreleased] - The Meaning Of Soul - The Morning Son***
- The Quiet Ones - Those Swollen Hand Blues - Turn Up The Sun - Who Put The Weight Of The World On My Shoulders - Won’t Let You Down - Velvet Building - [No Known Title - “…show me your love…”] [Unreleased] - [No Known Title - “…in my own time…”] [Unreleased] * Noel is quoted as saying he thinks this possibly turned into 'The Hindu Times'.
** This song turned into 'Lyla'
*** This song likely existed under the title 'I Stand Alone'.Songs in grey excluded, that's 39 tracks out of about 60 I believe. You missed "Slow". "In an article for the September 1997 edition of Q Magazine, co-producer Owen Morris commented briefly on this song. « [Noel] has the best verse melodies, the best bridges, the best choruses. And he's getting better. Broader and wider, more soulful - he's already got a heartbreaking soul song called 'Slow' which should be right for the fourth album. » " I hope all this songs will get a release someday. Maybe in a deluxe edition album or in an anthology. The list above is cut off to the SOTSOG era as there is no example of Noel ever using DM/(WTS)MG?/BHN material during the 2000s. Most people consider 'Slow' to be part of the Be Here Now era but indeed it could have been written after the Be Here Now sessions so could possibly be part of the SOTSOG era. There's tonnes of unreleased DM material so I won't list it here but here's the list of unreleased (WTS)MG? and BHN material: (WTS)MG? Era
- Ariel Bender [In a Jan 1995 interview Noel claims to have started writing a song with this title]- Feeling Like I Think... [Unseen lyrics to this song feature in a (probably late) 1994 notebook owned by Noel]- On 'n' On [Unseen lyrics to this song feature in a (probably late) 1994 notebook owned by Noel]- Rainy Summertime [Unseen lyrics to this song feature in a (probably late) 1994 notebook owned by Noel]- Starchild [Unseen lyrics to this song feature in a (probably late) 1994 notebook owned by Noel]- Strawberry Satellite [Partial lyrics to this song feature on scraps of paper which can be dated to early 1995]- Purple Parallelogram [Sister song to 'Roll With It'. Largely written by Noel in late Aug 1994 with contributions from Evan Dando and others]BHN Era
- God Will Never Save Your Soul* [In a 6th Aug 1997 interview Noel claims the last song he had written had this title]- If We Shadows [Released on disk 2 of the Be Here Now - Chasing the Sun remaster]- Mirrory Puddles* - New Suede Shoes - Slow* [Namechecked by Owen Morris as a Noel composition in an interview published in Sep 1997 interview]- The Lost Chord* [In an interview published on the 12th Jul 1997 Liam claims to have recently written (at least in part) a song with this title]- [Untitled] [An instrumental released on disk 3 of the Be Here Now - Chasing the Sun remaster under the incorrect title 'Trip Inside']- [Untitled - "Only for the young..."] [Released on disk 2 of the Be Here Now - Chasing the Sun remaster]
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Post by mossy on Mar 15, 2019 3:35:22 GMT -5
There was also “Daytura Dream Deferred” from the 90s. Inspired by Johnny Marr getting his dreams back after giving up drugs. X
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Post by morning_rain on Mar 15, 2019 10:06:31 GMT -5
There was also “Daytura Dream Deferred” from the 90s. Inspired by Johnny Marr getting his dreams back after giving up drugs. X I think Daytura Dream Deferred was the original title for WTSMG. |
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Post by The Crimson Rambler on Mar 15, 2019 13:16:01 GMT -5
There was also “Daytura Dream Deferred” from the 90s. Inspired by Johnny Marr getting his dreams back after giving up drugs. X There was also “Daytura Dream Deferred” from the 90s. Inspired by Johnny Marr getting his dreams back after giving up drugs. X I think Daytura Dream Deferred was the original title for WTSMG. According to Paolo Hewitt 'Daytura Dream Deferred' was a song title Noel got from Johnny Marr. Mossy's description of what it means is correct. What Paolo probably meant to say however is that Noel wanted to use it for an album title instead. 'Datura Dream Rebound' is the correct title.  (Mid 1993 Tracklist) |
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Post by The Escapist on Mar 15, 2019 13:34:19 GMT -5
Thank fuck they never used it.
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Post by Let It Bleed on Mar 16, 2019 16:02:11 GMT -5
This thread needs some big dick energy....
Thanks.
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