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Post by Deleted on Mar 29, 2018 17:00:16 GMT -5
I'm impressed by Southgate lately. He talks sense, tactically and technically the team is getting better and he's giving players from the likes of Burnley a chance rather than sticking to the big clubs. Also there is not much pressure on him which makes a change from previous years.
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Post by thomaslivesforever on Mar 29, 2018 19:41:59 GMT -5
He hasn't even made a challenge, he running and stands on his foot, he doesn't change direction. He is essentially running alongside him. He also starts to go down before as it looks like he's lost control of it. VAR is for the obvious ones, that aint one of them. nah, its a penalty. lets just agree to disagree Good point, well argued.
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Post by thomaslivesforever on Mar 29, 2018 19:44:00 GMT -5
I didn’t watch the match because who really gives a toss about an international friendly?But I did see the VAR incident on YouTube last night. It is slightly tricky because the England geezer did trod on his foot....HOWEVER the Italian muppet was already on his way down, so no penalty IMO. Also, VAR sucks. It’s ironic that its very purpose was to bring fact into the game but all it does is create even more controversy and uncertainty. Get it out of the sport. Oh I don't know, an England supporter.
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Mar 29, 2018 19:45:08 GMT -5
I didn’t watch the match because who really gives a toss about an international friendly?But I did see the VAR incident on YouTube last night. It is slightly tricky because the England geezer did trod on his foot....HOWEVER the Italian muppet was already on his way down, so no penalty IMO. Also, VAR sucks. It’s ironic that its very purpose was to bring fact into the game but all it does is create even more controversy and uncertainty. Get it out of the sport. Oh I don't know, a VERY BORED England supporter. FIFY
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Post by sgtpeppr on Mar 29, 2018 20:43:44 GMT -5
nah, its a penalty. lets just agree to disagree Good point, well argued. well, im no rocketman, but for me, he isnt definitely on his way down before the foul, he could just be changing direction. but thats irrelevant really. you can be fouled at anytime. it doesnt matter if youre already falling. stepping on his foot was accidental (probably), but again, doesnt necessarily mean its no foul. what i will agree with is that this isnt really 'clear & obvious'. different refs could interpret the play in different ways...
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Post by RocketMan on Mar 30, 2018 5:25:57 GMT -5
well, im no rocketman, but for me, he isnt definitely on his way down before the foul, he could just be changing direction. but thats irrelevant really. you can be fouled at anytime. it doesnt matter if youre already falling. stepping on his foot was accidental (probably), but again, doesnt necessarily mean its no foul. what i will agree with is that this isnt really 'clear & obvious'. different refs could interpret the play in different ways... Thanks. Also I made my point earlier and I posted a video in which you can clearly see that one guy stepped on his foot while the other runs right into him. It's a foul and shitty defending.
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Post by thomaslivesforever on Mar 30, 2018 6:03:05 GMT -5
Oh I don't know, a VERY BORED England supporter. FIFY Playing decent international friendlies is not boring and absolutely needed going in to a World Cup.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2018 7:35:32 GMT -5
Oh I don't know, a VERY BORED England supporter. FIFY Real football supporters watch every game they can, preferably at the stadium And this reminds me of a guy I know who said he's sometimes seen over 100 games per year, LIVE AT THE STADIUM/FOOTBALL GROUND! And this is Finland we're talking about where football is generally only played when there's no snow... Knowing him, he's not lying either... He actually just got his first child and hopefully he can concentrate on that instead of football for a while :/ That guy even travelled to Kazakhstan and Krasnodar alone to watch his local team playing
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Post by sgtpeppr on Mar 30, 2018 11:58:47 GMT -5
Playing decent international friendlies is not boring and absolutely needed going in to a World Cup. nah, theyre pointless. even as a warm-up, since most teams are experimenting. thats why this new 'nations league' is interesting. replaces friendlies (mostly) for an actual competition that ties in with euro qualification...should be done world wide i think.
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Post by thomaslivesforever on Mar 30, 2018 17:46:19 GMT -5
Playing decent international friendlies is not boring and absolutely needed going in to a World Cup. nah, theyre pointless. even as a warm-up, since most teams are experimenting. thats why this new 'nations league' is interesting. replaces friendlies (mostly) for an actual competition that ties in with euro qualification...should be done world wide i think. The new nations league is a great idea but friendlies against good opposition is invaluable to coaches. To suggest otherwise given the amount of time international teams spend together is just weird.
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Post by sgtpeppr on Mar 30, 2018 18:21:18 GMT -5
nah, theyre pointless. even as a warm-up, since most teams are experimenting. thats why this new 'nations league' is interesting. replaces friendlies (mostly) for an actual competition that ties in with euro qualification...should be done world wide i think. The new nations league is a great idea but friendlies against good opposition is invaluable to coaches. To suggest otherwise given the amount of time international teams spend together is just weird. the few friendlies played during the regular season wont make a difference. qualifiers are enough. 'good opposition' is relative, since theres as good a chance as any that youll play a B team. i remember once when england subbed their entire XI at half-time in a friendly...its just not a good representation of how or who an international team will play at a comp. the only ones worth anything are the 3-4 in the weeks before a major comp. altho even those ones arent an indication of how a team plays, theyre more to adjust fitness for the different upcoming schedule. but these ones in between league weeks are just disruptive.
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Post by thomaslivesforever on Mar 30, 2018 19:04:16 GMT -5
The new nations league is a great idea but friendlies against good opposition is invaluable to coaches. To suggest otherwise given the amount of time international teams spend together is just weird. the few friendlies played during the regular season wont make a difference. qualifiers are enough. 'good opposition' is relative, since theres as good a chance as any that youll play a B team. i remember once when england subbed their entire XI at half-time in a friendly...its just not a good representation of how or who an international team will play at a comp. the only ones worth anything are the 3-4 in the weeks before a major comp. altho even those ones arent an indication of how a team plays, theyre more to adjust fitness for the different upcoming schedule. but these ones in between league weeks are just disruptive. Disruptive to the leagues? Well that's ok because I honestly don't care about them when it comes to the national team. Have you seen our groups over the last few competitions? They've been terrible, playing competitive friendlies has been important even if the opposition isn't at full strength is important.
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Post by sgtpeppr on Mar 31, 2018 2:01:29 GMT -5
the few friendlies played during the regular season wont make a difference. qualifiers are enough. 'good opposition' is relative, since theres as good a chance as any that youll play a B team. i remember once when england subbed their entire XI at half-time in a friendly...its just not a good representation of how or who an international team will play at a comp. the only ones worth anything are the 3-4 in the weeks before a major comp. altho even those ones arent an indication of how a team plays, theyre more to adjust fitness for the different upcoming schedule. but these ones in between league weeks are just disruptive. Disruptive to the leagues? Well that's ok because I honestly don't care about them when it comes to the national team. Have you seen our groups over the last few competitions? They've been terrible, playing competitive friendlies has been important even if the opposition isn't at full strength is important. i think maybe youre in the minority with that opinion...which would make your suggestion the weird one? then again, i might just be remembering the frustration when reus was injured in the friendly before 2014 and missed the whole thing. ok, they won it, but thats beside the point.
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Post by thomaslivesforever on Mar 31, 2018 14:47:02 GMT -5
Disruptive to the leagues? Well that's ok because I honestly don't care about them when it comes to the national team. Have you seen our groups over the last few competitions? They've been terrible, playing competitive friendlies has been important even if the opposition isn't at full strength is important. i think maybe youre in the minority with that opinion...which would make your suggestion the weird one? then again, i might just be remembering the frustration when reus was injured in the friendly before 2014 and missed the whole thing. ok, they won it, but thats beside the point. Maybe, maybe not. If you assume that football in England ends at 20th place of the premier league then you'd be right. The national team is more popular among those fans who aren't going to Europa and champions league you only have to look at a lot of the fans that go and the names of the towns stitched on their flags. The leagues should solve the friendlies problem in any case and I think its a great idea.
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Jun 12, 2018 12:00:07 GMT -5
England have a favorable way into the Quarter-Finals, though, with an easy group (although we said that in the 2014 World Cup, as well!), and then we would meet one of Poland, Senegal, Colombia, or Japan in the Last 16. Anything but Quarter-Finalists would be an abject failure for England this time out. Chance of an England vs. Brazil 2002 re-match looks on the cards, as well!
Things look tasty as we reach the Quarter Finals with England, Brazil, Germany, Belgium, France, Portugal, Spain, and Argentina most likely all leading the way. Germany are my pick for the overall winners, though.
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Post by daviesh on Jun 12, 2018 12:25:06 GMT -5
Can't see anything but a win for Spain. Such a strong squad and not dependent on one star player.
Agreed with you about England, and I plotted out our path just as you did. Whilst Brazil will be a big test, I'm hoping we will have momentum behind us, and a bit of luck!
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Post by Gin & Tonic on Jun 12, 2018 17:09:22 GMT -5
I’ve got England losing to Colombia in the last 16.
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Post by ManofMisery on Jun 12, 2018 17:36:11 GMT -5
I’ve got England losing to Colombia in the last 16. Me too. Must be a scottish thing.
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Jun 13, 2018 18:36:52 GMT -5
Two world wars and one World Cup, England, England 🏴
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Post by oasisserbia on Jun 13, 2018 22:59:46 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Jun 14, 2018 8:10:27 GMT -5
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Post by sgtpeppr on Jun 15, 2018 0:03:15 GMT -5
Two world wars and one World Cup, England, England 🏴 i prefer our four world cups and three european championships...
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Post by thomaslivesforever on Jun 15, 2018 2:00:03 GMT -5
Two world wars and one World Cup, England, England 🏴 Nothing like shoehorning some nationalism in to football is there? Embarrassing.
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Post by thomaslivesforever on Jun 15, 2018 2:00:33 GMT -5
Two world wars and one World Cup, England, England 🏴 i prefer our four world cups and three european championships... Yeah I would prefer that to.
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Post by oasisserbia on Jun 15, 2018 15:03:55 GMT -5
One World War started, 0 World Cups.
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