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Post by The Crimson Rambler on Apr 17, 2020 14:05:06 GMT -5
What a moron.
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Post by RocketMan on Apr 17, 2020 16:16:41 GMT -5
didn’t he tell everyone to stay home and now he is openly telling these three states to ignore his own advice? What?
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Post by globe on Apr 18, 2020 17:42:16 GMT -5
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Post by oasisserbia on Apr 19, 2020 20:07:04 GMT -5
But still, wars started by Trump:0
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Post by funhouse on Apr 20, 2020 0:27:50 GMT -5
But still, wars started by Trump:0 That's not a high bar you're setting. But yeah, while the most incompetent, he is yet to become the worst ever president.
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Post by Elie De Beaufour on Apr 20, 2020 2:08:24 GMT -5
Trump: Liberate Nova Scotia from pipeline protesters! Idiot possibly mentally ill: OK. #blameTrump On a much better note: I hope our Canada members are OK
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Post by oasisserbia on Apr 20, 2020 17:46:47 GMT -5
But still, wars started by Trump:0 Also, he is right about WHO. I like this guy more and more :-) Only 100000 negative things left about him but there are some positive things. And if there is like five positive things about Trump, that's five more than about Clintons and Biden.
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Post by RocketMan on Apr 21, 2020 9:35:01 GMT -5
But still, wars started by Trump:0 Also, he is right about WHO. I like this guy more and more :-) Only 100000 negative things left about him but there are some positive things. And if there is like five positive things about Trump, that's five more than about Clintons and Biden. Stop it
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Post by matt on Apr 24, 2020 7:23:27 GMT -5
But still, wars started by Trump:0 Also, he is right about WHO. I like this guy more and more :-) Only 100000 negative things left about him but there are some positive things. And if there is like five positive things about Trump, that's five more than about Clintons and Biden. Strange post.
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Post by matt on Apr 24, 2020 7:24:13 GMT -5
I’d pay top dollar to watch Donald Trump drink a bottle of bleach and see the after effects.
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Post by globe on Apr 24, 2020 7:53:02 GMT -5
Just when you think he couldn’t come away with something even more bizarre than his last insane, fucked up thought he gives us this.
Get this complete fuckwit so far away to fuck!
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Post by oasisserbia on Apr 24, 2020 8:10:37 GMT -5
Also, he is right about WHO. I like this guy more and more :-) Only 100000 negative things left about him but there are some positive things. And if there is like five positive things about Trump, that's five more than about Clintons and Biden. Strange post. Not so strange when this happened 21 years and one day ago, 3 kilometres from where you live thanks to Clinton and Biden. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/NATO_bombing_of_the_Radio_Television_of_Serbia_headquarters
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Post by RocketMan on Apr 24, 2020 10:09:22 GMT -5
I hear the same arguments when right wing idiots talk about the Dresden bombing in ww2
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Post by oasisserbia on Apr 24, 2020 10:42:09 GMT -5
Please, just shut up. That's your shame not ours, Milosevic was complete idiot and war criminal but comparing him to Hitler... And as a German, please don't lecture me about anything, we all know who was one which side in both World Wars and what have you done to my country.
And without WW2 and German occupition of my country and whole Yugoslavia, there wouldn't be any war in 90s. Yugoslavian wars in 90s happened because of WW2 and scars that people had from that war.
There were disagremeents between Serbs, Croats, Albanians, Bosniaks...before WW2 but actually, we were starting to get along and we were resolving some issues just before WW2 started. And then everything exploded with German occupation and everything happening today is because of that time.
There was never any war in history before WW2 between Serbia and Croatia or Serbia and Bosnia, Serbia and Albania...just minor incedents.
So just fuck off from my country and leave us alone. Whole Serbia was protesting against idiot Milosevic since 1991 but whatever Milosevic did is not 1% bad comparing to what Croatians supported by Germans did to Serbs, Jews and Roma in WW2 or to what Germans done in both World Wars.
German comparing Serb to right wing idiots, sad times has come. We kicked your ass in 1918 and 1945, we will do it again.
There are still many Gavrilo Princips left among us.
And we burned building of Serbian national television and kicked some Milosevic's puppets journalists asses on 5th October 2000 and sent Milosevic to prison but you don't have any right to kill journalists and bombing building of Serbian national television.
That was planned bombing and war crime, there wasn't any war in Belgrade and battles like in Dresden, NATO and Clinton and Biden just decided to kill some civilians. People killed were cameramen and people like that, just doing there jobs.
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Post by matt on Apr 24, 2020 10:50:15 GMT -5
What’s the difference? You really think Trump would have acted differently? That’s standard normative behaviour for US governments - Trumps administration is full of war hawks who agreed to these bombings years ago. When the situation presents itself and the public rating is favourable, Trump would happily see any country grow in the dark with cluster bombs. I pity anyone who thinks Trump is making these decisions - he’s thick as pigs shit, hasn’t read a book in his life and is a mere puppet to the real powers behind the scene.
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Post by The Invisible Sun on Apr 24, 2020 11:17:30 GMT -5
I was feeling a bit off, in a fright that I might have corona, I inhaled Lysol per the presidents advice. Now I am feeling much better, in fact I am currently dancing on the moon.
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Post by RocketMan on Apr 24, 2020 11:59:46 GMT -5
Please, just shut up. That's your shame not ours, Milosevic was complete idiot and war criminal but comparing him to Hitler... And as a German, please don't lecture me about anything, we all know who was one which side in both World Wars and what have you done to my country. And without WW2 and German occupition of my country and whole Yugoslavia, there wouldn't be any war in 90s. Yugoslavian wars in 90s happened because of WW2 and scars that people had from that war. There were disagremeents between Serbs, Croats, Albanians, Bosniaks...before WW2 but actually, we were starting to get along and we were resolving some issues just before WW2 started. And then everything exploded with German occupation and everything happening today is because of that time. There was never any war in history before WW2 between Serbia and Croatia or Serbia and Bosnia, Serbia and Albania...just minor incedents. So just fuck off from my country and leave us alone. Whole Serbia was protesting against idiot Milosevic since 1991 but whatever Milosevic did is not 1% bad comparing to what Croatians supported by Germans did to Serbs, Jews and Roma in WW2 or to what Germans done in both World Wars. German comparing Serb to right wing idiots, sad times has come. We kicked your ass in 1918 and 1945, we will do it again. There are still many Gavrilo Princips left among us. And we burned building of Serbian national television and kicked some Milosevic's puppets journalists asses on 5th October 2000 and sent Milosevic to prison but you don't have any right to kill journalists and bombing building of Serbian national television. That was planned bombing and war crime, there wasn't any war in Belgrade and battles like in Dresden, NATO and Clinton and Biden just decided to kill some civilians. People killed were cameramen and people like that, just doing there jobs. Ehm?! You ok? I don’t know what that has to do with anything that I said lol
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Post by oasisserbia on Apr 24, 2020 15:53:12 GMT -5
Please, just shut up. That's your shame not ours, Milosevic was complete idiot and war criminal but comparing him to Hitler... And as a German, please don't lecture me about anything, we all know who was one which side in both World Wars and what have you done to my country. And without WW2 and German occupition of my country and whole Yugoslavia, there wouldn't be any war in 90s. Yugoslavian wars in 90s happened because of WW2 and scars that people had from that war. There were disagremeents between Serbs, Croats, Albanians, Bosniaks...before WW2 but actually, we were starting to get along and we were resolving some issues just before WW2 started. And then everything exploded with German occupation and everything happening today is because of that time. There was never any war in history before WW2 between Serbia and Croatia or Serbia and Bosnia, Serbia and Albania...just minor incedents. So just fuck off from my country and leave us alone. Whole Serbia was protesting against idiot Milosevic since 1991 but whatever Milosevic did is not 1% bad comparing to what Croatians supported by Germans did to Serbs, Jews and Roma in WW2 or to what Germans done in both World Wars. German comparing Serb to right wing idiots, sad times has come. We kicked your ass in 1918 and 1945, we will do it again. There are still many Gavrilo Princips left among us. And we burned building of Serbian national television and kicked some Milosevic's puppets journalists asses on 5th October 2000 and sent Milosevic to prison but you don't have any right to kill journalists and bombing building of Serbian national television. That was planned bombing and war crime, there wasn't any war in Belgrade and battles like in Dresden, NATO and Clinton and Biden just decided to kill some civilians. People killed were cameramen and people like that, just doing there jobs. Ehm?! You ok? I don’t know what that has to do with anything that I said lol Police curfew started today, I am not ok I am sorry for my nationalistic rage, not that I think that I said anything wrong but I understood that you said that it was ok to bomb journalists in Belgrade, just like it was ok to bomb Dresden and only right wing idiots in Serbia and Germany are against it. I am really fighting my own battle whole life, here I might look like right wing sometimes, in Serbia I am traitor many times but I just go from situation to situation and generally hate everyone I mean politicians, political movements and that. Sorry for connecting you with Nazis, I know how stupid it is and I don't like to stigmatize people because of country they are from, or religion, sexual orientation or anything. Anyway, I still think that is important to talk about NATO bombing of Serbia and Bill Clinton's war crimes. Trump didn't got involved in any new war, I don't know matt how that happened, does he has any power, did he said fuck off to some people or what is happening but he didn't invade any new country, that's the fact. We in Serbia are always somewhere in between and there is strong Western and Russian and Chinese propaganda which is terrible but on the hand, you can get much more information and see how all sides are thinking. Here is little photo story and in my opinion reason why western countries shouldn't do shits outside their countries. We will leave Serbs and Serbia out this, altouth it happened in Serbia On May 7, 1999, during the NATO bombing of Yugoslavia (Operation Allied Force), five US Joint Direct Attack Munition guided bombs hit the People's Republic of China embassy in the Belgrade district of New Belgrade, killing three Chinese journalists and outraging the Chinese public. According to the U.S. government, the intention had been to bomb the nearby Yugoslav Federal Directorate for Supply and Procurement. President Bill Clinton later apologized for the bombing, stating it was accidental.Belgrade, Serbia, May 8, 1999Chinese people living in Begrade burning Bill Clinton's doll in front of bombed embassy China, May 8, 1999How many of you know this story? Can anyone really think that it was an accident? But I'll tell you who know everything about this - Chinese people. And government especially. I was talking to guy who was like employee of their government or secret agent or whatever, he was buying some airports and stuff in Maribor with money that they gave him to do that, and I will tell you what - he and they don't forget anything. He knew about this bombing 100 times more then I knew. Those fuckers are building their empire and we don't even have a clue what they bought in Europe and USA and what they are planning to do but I know that they don't forget anything and are ready for revenge. They were coming to the place of bombing in Belgrade every year And now they built biggest Chinese cultural center in Europe and they will open it in next few days. ''Cultural centre''. And then after reading this,, think about COVID and stuff. I am not saying that they created it but they hided informations very well, solved situation in their country very quick and now whole world is fucked. And even if they don't have anything to do with that, they have other plans, trust me.
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Post by Elie De Beaufour on Apr 24, 2020 22:05:07 GMT -5
Just when you think he couldn’t come away with something even more bizarre than his last insane, fucked up thought he gives us this. Get this complete fuckwit so far away to fuck! He's quoting a group who think it's a miracle cure. From the Guardian: The leader of the most prominent group in the US peddling potentially lethal industrial bleach as a “miracle cure” for coronavirus wrote to Donald Trump at the White House this week. In his letter, Mark Grenon told Trump that chlorine dioxide – a powerful bleach used in industrial processes such as textile manufacturing that can have fatal side-effects when drunk – is “a wonderful detox that can kill 99% of the pathogens in the body”. He added that it “can rid the body of Covid-19”. Never thought I'd see the day when Scott Morrison is smarter than Trump.
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Post by mystoryisgory on Apr 26, 2020 4:14:23 GMT -5
oasisserbia I am familiar with the Belgrade Chinese embassy bombing incident, a US war crime if there ever was any. I'm American and I do feel ashamed of all the horrible things the US and NATO did by bombing civilians in Serbia. There's no excuse for that, and I am sorry that your country had to suffer bc of US imperialism. Although I completely understand why you are opposed to people like Clinton, Biden, etc, and I share your distrust of them, I don't think the way to oppose them is Trump. It's not true that Trump is an isolationist while the Democrats are war hawks. Trump very nearly started war with Iran. He's continued to support Saudi Arabia's slaughter of civilians in Yemen. And let's not forget that he left the Kurds to be massacred by Erdogan after suddenly withdrawing from Syria, while at the same time increasing troops in Saudi Arabia. He's just as much of an American imperialist as the Democrats. People may find solace in his opposition to NATO and other international institutions that have committed war crimes, but the truth is Trump wouldn't hesitate to bomb Serbia again if he thought it would help him politically or financially. He has no regard for human life. The fact he hasn't started any wars shouldn't be considered a point in his favor, and that he hasn't started any wars hasn't been for lack of trying! Trump is an imperialist. Not any different from the Democrats, or the Republicans for that matter.
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Post by oasisserbia on Apr 26, 2020 8:17:07 GMT -5
I am just saying - when Trump is president, you admit that you are fucked and in my opinion, it's on you to wait for better times and better candidate. And things are changing in the world. So, yes, you have idiot for president, this is the worst time in history, you have chosen absolute clown for president but there is only one way from rock bottom.
With choosing Biden again, you are just going in circles. He will again do some shits and people will again choose someone like Trump in 2024 or 2028 when they will be tired of shit Democrats do.
In Serbia, people like are me are organising and we have decided to boycott election. Very similar situation to USA, yes, Vučić is an absolute idiot and he is worse than our Democratic party, who were in power before him, but at the end of day, it's the same shit.
So, we are doing all we can to not allow any of them to rule Serbia again.
Drastic times call for drastic measures. It seems that it still isn't that bad in USA when people don't see some things. It will be soon. So, in my opinion, like I said four years ago, it's better to have Trump for president and be absolute aware that you are fucked than choosing Biden and live in an illusion that something will change.
Trump nearly started war, but he didn't, he continued to support but he didn't started etc. In the end, yes he is the same imperialist but least on paper, his results in foreign policy are not that bad.
Terrorists have frighten whole Europe and USA, did so many bad things and changed the world we know to revenge for what NATO did to they countries. Few small groups of terrostist. Now think what will happen when Russia and China start to have full revenge.
And fucking Clinton is also responsible for fucking Putin. Russia opened their arms to USA in 90s and all they did was to humiliate them. No matter how much I fucking hate Putin, I would do everything as he is doing if I were president of Russia. There's no other way.
And discipline that nations like Chinese have, state power, number of them, willingness to sacrifice for their country.
We Europeans and Americans are pussies and don't have 2% of that.
So, the world has changed, and I don't think that many are aware that is not impossible that we will all soon be in situation to better get on our knees and pray (:-)).
So, Trumps foreign policy is still better than Clintons and Biden's, he can be idiot and imperialist in his head but he didn't make new Iraq, Afghanistan...Fact.
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Post by The Crimson Rambler on Apr 26, 2020 9:12:58 GMT -5
I am just saying - when Trump is president, you admit that you are fucked and in my opinion, it's on you to wait for better times and better candidate. And things are changing in the world. So, yes, you have idiot for president, this is the worst time in history, you have chosen absolute clown for president but there is only one way from rock bottom. With choosing Biden again, you are just going in circles. He will again do some shits and people will again choose someone like Trump in 2024 or 2028 when they will be tired of shit Democrats do. ... Drastic times call for drastic measures. It seems that it still isn't that bad in USA when people don't see some things. It will be soon. So, in my opinion, like I said four years ago, it's better to have Trump for president and be absolute aware that you are fucked than choosing Biden and live in an illusion that something will change.What a horribly defeatist attitude to have. And that last statement is makes no practical sense whatsoever. In fact it sounds dangerously dumb. Sure Biden is flawed and a democratically status quo candidate but he's an infinitely better choice than Donald fucking Trump just like any candidate would be. With Trump things are blatantly changing for the worse. Surely voting for the guy who isn't that is the obvious choice no?
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Post by oasisserbia on Apr 26, 2020 9:33:51 GMT -5
It depends on how you look at the things. I would rather eat shit few years and then eat caviar for the rest of my life than eat shit with little sugar on it whole life.
And I really hate politics, I said what I had to say, that's my opinion and that's all. I respect yours and don't want to go any further. Thread is yours, you heard opinion from some other part of the world, make of that what you will.
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Post by The Crimson Rambler on Apr 26, 2020 10:23:43 GMT -5
It depends on how you look at the things. I would rather eat shit few years and then eat caviar for the rest of my life than eat shit with little sugar on it whole life. And I really hate politics, I said what I had to say, that's my opinion and that's all. I respect yours and don't want to go any further. Thread is yours, you heard opinion from some other part of the world, make of that what you will. If you don't want to reply that's completely ok, politics can be incredibly frustrating, but I'll quickly respond to your message as I think you may benefit from it. Like you I am an outside observer. You seem to be confusing things. By "eating shit" for a few years that doesn't lead to "eating caviar for the rest of your life". The world doesn't work like that. By "eating shit" you're suffering and everyone you know is. Whatever happens after that is an unknown. You seem to be hoping people will get sick and tired of "eating shit" and then there will be a revolution and everything will be ok. Unfortunately history shows us time and time again that's not what often happens. The world is complicated and unpredictable. "Eating shit with a little sugar on top of it" is a bad analogy for Biden. He is in no way as comparably bad as Trump is. 'Bread' would be a more accurate description. Regardless why have you jumped to the conclusion that you'll be "eating shit with a little sugar on top of it" for your whole life? Again whatever happens in the future is unknown, no one can predict the future. The choice is obvious. Don't vote to "eat shit" for 4 more years, vote to eat some bread. In 4 years time maybe something more appetizing will come your way.
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Post by mystoryisgory on Apr 26, 2020 13:22:25 GMT -5
It depends on how you look at the things. I would rather eat shit few years and then eat caviar for the rest of my life than eat shit with little sugar on it whole life. And I really hate politics, I said what I had to say, that's my opinion and that's all. I respect yours and don't want to go any further. Thread is yours, you heard opinion from some other part of the world, make of that what you will. You know, I do understand exactly where you're coming from here. In many ways Biden is no different from Trump, he just does a better job of hiding it. Sugar on the shit as you say. But I still think an accelerationist perspective is not the right perspective here. If people have been eating Trump's shit for four years and that doesn't compel them to rise up and make some serious changes to the American system, they won't revolt after another four years of eating the same shit. The longer Americans endure Trump the more used to him they become and the more complacent they become. Besides, Trump and his friends will make even more moves toward fascism after they are reelected, and by then it may be too late to reverse the damage. I still think we haven't seen Trump at his worst - he has been much worse when he believes he can act with impunity, and he will act even worse when he is reelected because he thinks he has some mandate from the people.
That being said, I'm not saying that everyone should immediately and unconditonally rally behind Biden. I believe that we need to pressure Biden at all costs to support Medicare for all, paid sick leave, paid parental leave, universal childcare, free college, etc, at a minimum. And on foreign policy as well. It will be unacceptable to have another four years of murder of civilians through drone strikes (something that happens regularly under Trump, btw). We Americans are stuck in a very sticky situation between two parties who don't give a shit about the people, but we need to try to enact change as much as we can. Unfortunately there's only so much you can do through established institutions, which is one reason I think Americans should be ready to take to the streets, protest, riot, and fight for a better future. But that's a discussion for another time.
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