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Post by mossy on Aug 10, 2020 7:10:57 GMT -5
I’ve been out of the loop for a few months. Jessica mentioned Noel is in a studio right now, but not the one he was building in King’s Cross. Where is he? What do we know he’s up to? Cheers! X
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Post by defmaybe00 on Aug 10, 2020 7:36:47 GMT -5
I’ve been out of the loop for a few months. Jessica mentioned Noel is in a studio right now, but not the one he was building in King’s Cross. Where is he? What do we know he’s up to? Cheers! X We know fuck all apart from the fact he's recorded 3 songs (maybe more now, but it was 3 the last time he did a podcast with Matt), he's not too keen on one of them but sounded pretty happy with the other 2 We also know he's had Gilmour's backing singers in the studio
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Post by mossy on Aug 10, 2020 7:55:35 GMT -5
I’ve been out of the loop for a few months. Jessica mentioned Noel is in a studio right now, but not the one he was building in King’s Cross. Where is he? What do we know he’s up to? Cheers! X We know fuck all apart from the fact he's recorded 3 songs (maybe more now, but it was 3 the last time he did a podcast with Matt), he's not to keen on one of them but sounded pretty happy with the other 2 We also know he's had Gilmour's backing singers in the studio That’s pretty big news to me. In one of the last interviews I read with him (pre-pandemic) he said he was planning to take 2020 off and start working on his next album in 2021, so to hear he’s got three tracks nailed already is great. Who do you mean by Gilmour? David Gilmour!? X
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Post by defmaybe00 on Aug 10, 2020 8:03:47 GMT -5
We know fuck all apart from the fact he's recorded 3 songs (maybe more now, but it was 3 the last time he did a podcast with Matt), he's not to keen on one of them but sounded pretty happy with the other 2 We also know he's had Gilmour's backing singers in the studio That’s pretty big news to me. In one of the last interviews I read with him (pre-pandemic) he said he was planning to take 2020 off and start working on his next album in 2021, so to hear he’s got three tracks nailed already is great. Who do you mean by Gilmour? David Gilmour!? X Indeed
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Post by mossy on Aug 10, 2020 8:45:42 GMT -5
That’s pretty big news to me. In one of the last interviews I read with him (pre-pandemic) he said he was planning to take 2020 off and start working on his next album in 2021, so to hear he’s got three tracks nailed already is great. Who do you mean by Gilmour? David Gilmour!? X Indeed Wow, random. Well, I’m surprised but happy to hear he’s recording. X
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Post by uboasis on Aug 10, 2020 9:17:22 GMT -5
Wow, random. Well, I’m surprised but happy to hear he’s recording. X Also it seems Brendan Lynch is involved in the project
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Post by mossy on Aug 10, 2020 9:24:32 GMT -5
Wow, random. Well, I’m surprised but happy to hear he’s recording. X Also it seems Brendan Lynch is involved in the project Say what!? Push my hype-o-meter up a notch. Brendan Lynch did some great production work on Primal Scream’s Vanishing Point and XTRMNTR albums, two of my favourite records. Holmes worked on XTRMNTR too. Do you have a link to the interview where Noel talks about this? X
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Post by The Escapist on Aug 10, 2020 11:13:31 GMT -5
Wow, random. Well, I’m surprised but happy to hear he’s recording. X Also it seems Brendan Lynch is involved in the project Source?
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Post by uboasis on Aug 10, 2020 11:17:30 GMT -5
Also it seems Brendan Lynch is involved in the project Say what!? Push my hype-o-meter up a notch. Brendan Lynch did some great production work on Primal Scream’s Vanishing Point and XTRMNTR albums, two of my favourite records. Holmes worked on XTRMNTR too. Do you have a link to the interview where Noel talks about this? X I can't dig for it now but it was from the engineer tomas crow. He posted about it on social media and someone translated it. At one point there was an audio clip on tomas crow's indtagram story. Search the forum for tomas crow references
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Post by thespiderandthefly on Aug 10, 2020 11:35:00 GMT -5
What the World Needs Now...is new tunes by Noel Gallagher Wonder if we’re getting another EP or next release is a full album.
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Post by mossy on Aug 10, 2020 11:52:31 GMT -5
What the World Needs Now...is new tunes by Noel Gallagher Wonder if we’re getting another EP or next release is a full album. DOUBLE ALBUM MOTHERLOVERS. X
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Post by mossy on Aug 10, 2020 11:54:43 GMT -5
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Post by Derrick on Aug 10, 2020 14:00:58 GMT -5
What the World Needs Now...is new tunes by Noel Gallagher Wonder if we’re getting another EP or next release is a full album. DOUBLE ALBUM MOTHERLOVERS. X Says NG: “Anybody that comes back with a double album, to me, needs to pry themselves out of their own asshole. This is not the Seventies, OK? Go and ask Billy Corgan about a double album. Who has the fucking time, in 2013, to sit through 45 minutes of a single album? How arrogant are these people to think that you’ve got an hour and a half to listen to a fucking record?” –RS, Dec. 2013
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Post by mossy on Aug 10, 2020 14:20:56 GMT -5
DOUBLE ALBUM MOTHERLOVERS. X Says NG: “Anybody that comes back with a double album, to me, needs to pry themselves out of their own asshole. This is not the Seventies, OK? Go and ask Billy Corgan about a double album. Who has the fucking time, in 2013, to sit through 45 minutes of a single album? How arrogant are these people to think that you’ve got an hour and a half to listen to a fucking record?” –RS, Dec. 2013 Says NG: “I Hate That Alex And Damon. I Hope They Catch AIDS And Die.” Also NG: X
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Post by Lennon2217 on Aug 10, 2020 14:21:23 GMT -5
DOUBLE ALBUM MOTHERLOVERS. X Says NG: “Anybody that comes back with a double album, to me, needs to pry themselves out of their own asshole. This is not the Seventies, OK? Go and ask Billy Corgan about a double album. Who has the fucking time, in 2013, to sit through 45 minutes of a single album? How arrogant are these people to think that you’ve got an hour and a half to listen to a fucking record?” –RS, Dec. 2013 The Billy Corgan comment is weird because Mellon Collie is the Pumpkins biggest hit and it’s a............double album that got loads and loads of play.
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Post by Derrick on Aug 10, 2020 14:48:33 GMT -5
Says NG: “Anybody that comes back with a double album, to me, needs to pry themselves out of their own asshole. This is not the Seventies, OK? Go and ask Billy Corgan about a double album. Who has the fucking time, in 2013, to sit through 45 minutes of a single album? How arrogant are these people to think that you’ve got an hour and a half to listen to a fucking record?” –RS, Dec. 2013 The Billy Corgan comment is weird because Mellon Collie is the Pumpkins biggest hit and it’s a............double album that got loads and loads of play. That quote was about Arcade Fire's double album released in 2013 (can't remember it's name, I probably haven't listened to it anyway).
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Post by Lennon2217 on Aug 10, 2020 15:04:07 GMT -5
The Billy Corgan comment is weird because Mellon Collie is the Pumpkins biggest hit and it’s a............double album that got loads and loads of play. That quote was about Arcade Fire's double album released in 2013 (can't remember it's name, I probably haven't listened to it anyway). That’s a “fake” double album anyways. It’s only 13 tracks divide between 2 CDs and is actually shorter than The Suburbs which is a single album. AF was just getting artsy fartsy. Nobody really consumes music like that anymore. It’s all endless playlists and infinite content which led into their next album of parody.......
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Post by mossy on Aug 10, 2020 15:05:29 GMT -5
That quote was about Arcade Fire's double album released in 2013 (can't remember it's name, I probably haven't listened to it anyway). That’s a “fake” double album anyways. It’s only 13 tracks divide between 2 CDs and is actually shorter than The Suburbs which is a single album. AF was just getting artsy fartsy. Nobody really consumes music like that anymore. It’s all endless playlists and infinite content which led into their next album of parody....... IF Noel does a double album I expect it will be a short one too. Each disc no longer than one vinyl, 40 mins or so each. Not much longer than Be Here Now. X
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Post by mossy on Aug 10, 2020 15:15:31 GMT -5
Says NG: “Anybody that comes back with a double album, to me, needs to pry themselves out of their own asshole. This is not the Seventies, OK? Go and ask Billy Corgan about a double album. Who has the fucking time, in 2013, to sit through 45 minutes of a single album? How arrogant are these people to think that you’ve got an hour and a half to listen to a fucking record?” –RS, Dec. 2013 The Billy Corgan comment is weird because Mellon Collie is the Pumpkins biggest hit and it’s a............double album that got loads and loads of play. Maybe Noel wasn’t referring to Mellon Collie there. The quote is from 2013 so he could be referring to Teargarden By Kaleidyscope / Oceania from around that time... that was supposed to be a massive 44 track album that Corgan had to abandon right? Or Machina which was another abandoned double album? His record label forced him to whittle it down to one album so the second part was a relatively unheard internet only release right? That may be what Noel’s referring to when he says “Go and ask Billy Corgan about a double album.“ Anyway Corgan clearly has a thing for ridiculously long albums! IF Noel does a double he better bring his A game. If half the tracks aren’t good enough I’d rather he do b-sides again instead. X
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Post by Lennon2217 on Aug 10, 2020 15:23:54 GMT -5
The Billy Corgan comment is weird because Mellon Collie is the Pumpkins biggest hit and it’s a............double album that got loads and loads of play. Maybe Noel wasn’t referring to Mellon Collie there. The quote is from 2013 so he could be referring to Teargarden By Kaleidyscope / Oceania from around that time... that was supposed to be a massive 44 track album that Corgan had to abandon right? Or Machina which was another abandoned double album? His record label forced him to whittle it down to one album so the second part was a relatively unheard internet only release right? That may be what Noel’s referring to when he says “Go and ask Billy Corgan about a double album.“ Anyway Corgan clearly has a thing for ridiculously long albums! IF Noel does a double he better bring his A game. If half the tracks aren’t good enough I’d rather he do b-sides again instead. X I have a feeling Noel is referencing Mellon Collie. Corgan always has a stockpile fo songs for all albums. Adore could have been a double. Zwan’s debut album also had enough songs for 2 albums.
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Post by Lennon2217 on Aug 10, 2020 15:25:51 GMT -5
The Billy Corgan comment is weird because Mellon Collie is the Pumpkins biggest hit and it’s a............double album that got loads and loads of play. I like Mellon Collie. The Pumpkins' output 1994-96 is so vast and for the biggest part overwhelmingly great. They never reached that quality level ever again, not even close. And they could have easily released TWO double albums with no fillers and I would have fully enjoyed it. And technically, since we're speaking of a compact disc-double album, Mellon Collie is a quadruple album (is this an actual english term?) in contrast to the 'classic" known double LP albums such as Exile, Blonde on Blonde, London Calling etc. Anyway, I like Noel as well, obviously. But I can't imagine him listening to, let's say, the sequence that opens the second disc of Mellon Collie - 'Where Boys../Bodies/33/In the Arms.../1979' - which is in my opinion just brilliant in its diversity and then going 'awright, love is suicide, I'm gonna have a bit of that'. The Pumpkins are just diametral to being mancunian. Or being the songwriter that is Noel. Long story, told short, Noel seems to be very accurate about his own quality control and what he actually puts out. But I'm pretty sure he's built up a backlog of hundreds of songs in the meantime (if only just random demos which he'll discard for the most part anyway) that he could easily put out tomorrow on streaming services, and I'm sure we all would really enjoy them. Stuff like Don't Stop. Forgot what my original point was, but there you go. Noel and Billy share a ton of similarities. Both were at the peak of their powers 1994-1996. Both were in a huge mega purple patch of songwriting. Both had immense commercial and critical success. Both fell off hard in the late 90s and never returned to their previous highlights despite high charting and albums selling well. It just wasn’t the same.
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Post by mossy on Aug 10, 2020 15:31:13 GMT -5
Maybe Noel wasn’t referring to Mellon Collie there. The quote is from 2013 so he could be referring to Teargarden By Kaleidyscope / Oceania from around that time... that was supposed to be a massive 44 track album that Corgan had to abandon right? Or Machina which was another abandoned double album? His record label forced him to whittle it down to one album so the second part was a relatively unheard internet only release right? That may be what Noel’s referring to when he says “Go and ask Billy Corgan about a double album.“ Anyway Corgan clearly has a thing for ridiculously long albums! IF Noel does a double he better bring his A game. If half the tracks aren’t good enough I’d rather he do b-sides again instead. X I have a feeling Noel is referencing Mellon Collie. I dunno. Hard to know for sure but as you said, Mellon Collie is quite ridiculous to criticise. It epitomises a double album which was massively commercially and critically successful. I could imagine Noel was aware of Corgan’s 00s commercial decline, record label struggles and multiple failed double album attempts though, even if he hadn’t listened to them. X
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Post by mossy on Aug 10, 2020 15:33:56 GMT -5
I like Mellon Collie. The Pumpkins' output 1994-96 is so vast and for the biggest part overwhelmingly great. They never reached that quality level ever again, not even close. And they could have easily released TWO double albums with no fillers and I would have fully enjoyed it. And technically, since we're speaking of a compact disc-double album, Mellon Collie is a quadruple album (is this an actual english term?) in contrast to the 'classic" known double LP albums such as Exile, Blonde on Blonde, London Calling etc. Anyway, I like Noel as well, obviously. But I can't imagine him listening to, let's say, the sequence that opens the second disc of Mellon Collie - 'Where Boys../Bodies/33/In the Arms.../1979' - which is in my opinion just brilliant in its diversity and then going 'awright, love is suicide, I'm gonna have a bit of that'. The Pumpkins are just diametral to being mancunian. Or being the songwriter that is Noel. Long story, told short, Noel seems to be very accurate about his own quality control and what he actually puts out. But I'm pretty sure he's built up a backlog of hundreds of songs in the meantime (if only just random demos which he'll discard for the most part anyway) that he could easily put out tomorrow on streaming services, and I'm sure we all would really enjoy them. Stuff like Don't Stop. Forgot what my original point was, but there you go. Noel and Billy share a ton of similarities. Both were at the peak of their powers 1994-1996. Both were in a huge mega purple patch of songwriting. Both had immense commercial and critical success. Both fell off hard in the late 90s and never returned to their previous highlights despite high charting and albums selling well. It just wasn’t the same. Also, Noel is a secret goth. X
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Post by mossy on Aug 11, 2020 3:54:24 GMT -5
Noel's right in the middle of his UK tour around that time too. If he plans on going away for a few years after this upcoming stint maybe he'll treat us to something special and finally drop Dont Stop The Happening 😎 Are you psychic? X
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Post by defmaybe00 on Aug 15, 2020 4:56:27 GMT -5
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