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Post by sgtpeppr on Nov 11, 2017 3:42:07 GMT -5
/\/\ nice deflection...
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Post by bathqueen1 on Nov 11, 2017 3:48:50 GMT -5
Noels logic:
Liam getting help from a co-writer = shit
Noel getting help from The real people in writing defintly maybe + cowriting rockin chair = genius
Noel cowriting roll with it with Evan dando and then ignoring his existence = genius Noel ripping off neil innes, stevie wonder and gary glitter so bad that he legally has to give them cowriter credit = genius
Yea, makes sense..........
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Post by morning_rain on Nov 11, 2017 4:01:07 GMT -5
Noels logic: Liam getting help from a co-writer = shit Noel getting help from The real people in writing defintly maybe + cowriting rockin chair = genius Noel cowriting roll with it with Evan dando and then ignoring his existence = genius Noel ripping off neil innes, stevie wonder and gary glitter so bad that he legally has to give them cowriter credit = genius Yea, makes sense.......... Also the AA writing The Right Stuff.
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Post by Let It Bleed on Nov 11, 2017 4:01:33 GMT -5
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Post by Just Call Me The Roller on Nov 11, 2017 4:38:12 GMT -5
Noels logic: Liam getting help from a co-writer = shit Noel getting help from The real people in writing defintly maybe + cowriting rockin chair = genius Noel cowriting roll with it with Evan dando and then ignoring his existence = genius Noel ripping off neil innes, stevie wonder and gary glitter so bad that he legally has to give them cowriter credit = genius Yea, makes sense.......... And never forget who wrote the lyrics of Columbia... and got no credit for it.
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Post by sgtpeppr on Nov 11, 2017 5:05:44 GMT -5
There are some right sad bastards on here, highlighted in this thread. For anyone to get offended by EITHER brother, on some comment they have said on Twitter, or in an interview, about each other really need to get a life. Seriously! Seeing as we are labelling forum members to be in either Noel Camp or Liam Camp, a few observations - I currently see Liam fans getting more upset with Noel's comments at the moment, than I am seeing Noel fans getting upset by anything Liam says, or has said in the past. Are the Noel fans more rational, intelligent, logical? Maybe. Maybe not. The Liam fans are also desperately sounding bitter towards Noel. Hoping the new album fails, slagging off the new music, and they are calling Noel bitter! The Liam fans also seem very good at reading Noel's mind. They seem to know exactly what he is thinking, why he is worried, etc. They seem to know Noel more than he does. The whole thing is absolutely pathetic. Get a grip, get a life. I'm enjoying the fact that both brothers are back in the limelight again, and we have 2 new albums out. Liam is doing a great job of connecting with a new generation. Let's face it, there are no up-and-coming rock stars out there for the kids to look up to these days, and Liam is from the old school, the last of a dying breed, and I am so glad people are talking about him again, and he is becoming relevant again. Noel, yes he may not be as cool as Liam, and he may not be able to connect to the younger audience like his brother has, and he may sound a bit wacky and bizarre these days, like an ageing rock star going through a mid-life crisis, but I am loving what I have heard from his new album so far, and I'm probably more excited by this release than anything Oasis has done since 1997. It's a good time being an Oasis fan again in 2017, but there are too many sad bastards on here getting caught up in trivial BS, and taking things too personal - particularly the Liam fans currently, but that may well change over the next few months. You should be pleased both brothers have 2 different albums out, and are relevant again, instead of reading too much into what either of them say publicly - then getting offended by it, and feeling you need to stick up for one of them and call the other other one out. I've been guilty of this too on this forum, and I've just realised how sad and pathetic it is. Agree with most of this although I've always thought the main problem on here isn't the people that have opinions about things, no matter how much you disagree with them, after all that's kinda the point of a forum, it's the people that respond to opinions they don't like by calling people sad, pathetic, mentally challenged, desperate, etc etc. In many ways it's people that think they are better than other posters and try to act 'Grown Up' that are the ones that use insulting language the most. The Noel/Liam debate on here never actually stops, it just hops from one thread and sub board another as topics crop up. And it never will as long as the board exists. People that don't like it would be better off avoiding those threads rather than try and stop people arguing by calling them out, because that just brings a response and escalation of the situation. Every single time. great advice. this place seemed alot friendlier (and saner) when i stuck to the sports/sound&vision sections...
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Post by The Escapist on Nov 11, 2017 5:42:46 GMT -5
The music divides...us into tribes...you pick your side, I'll pick my side.
The music divides...us into tribes...you grew your hair, so I grew mine.
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Post by mimmihopps on Nov 11, 2017 6:15:58 GMT -5
Can we all agree to disagree? This is a public fan forum, so everyone can post their opinions. Some agree you, some don't and if you disagree with other opinions, deal it without insulting them. Move on. You can't agree with everyone and everything.
We let this thread open because even if we close it, there will be a new thread on a similar topic started.
If you want to have a "healthy debate", go on, but as soon as it contains insult and name calling, posts will be removed from this thread. Thanks for collaborate everyone.
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Post by mimmihopps on Nov 11, 2017 6:21:39 GMT -5
To remind everyone on this forum. Cheers. Can we all agree to disagree? This is a public fan forum, so everyone can post their opinions. Some agree you, some don't and if you disagree with other opinions, deal it without insulting them. Move on. You can't agree with everyone and everything. We let this thread open because even if we close it, there will be a new thread on a similar topic started. If you want to have a "healthy debate", go on, but as soon as it contains insult and name calling, posts will be removed from this thread. Thanks for collaborate everyone.
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Post by carlober on Nov 11, 2017 6:23:19 GMT -5
I only care about the music.
Fuck all the "parka monkeys" and "beige" shit, I'd advise you to just enjoy what you like and carry on. It's been a great music year and it's getting even better, leave behind all the crap and the hate.
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Post by mimmihopps on Nov 11, 2017 6:28:58 GMT -5
@aboycalledelso and AdidasNG72, I don't delete any posts in this thread. As I said, we move the posts with insulting and name calling. People should be able to debate without insulting others who disagree them.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 11, 2017 6:30:19 GMT -5
@aboycalledelso, I don't delete any posts in this thread. As I said, we move the posts with insulting and name calling. People should be able to debate without insulting others who disagree them. sorry if I got carried on.
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Post by carlober on Nov 11, 2017 6:30:57 GMT -5
@aboycalledelso, I don't delete any posts in this thread. As I said, we move the posts with insulting and name calling. People should be able to debate without insulting others who disagree them. Precisely. And to some people on here: please stop playing the victim. It's getting annoying.
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Post by ninestonecowboy on Nov 11, 2017 7:05:08 GMT -5
Noels logic: Liam getting help from a co-writer = shit Noel getting help from The real people in writing defintly maybe + cowriting rockin chair = genius Noel cowriting roll with it with Evan dando and then ignoring his existence = genius Noel ripping off neil innes, stevie wonder and gary glitter so bad that he legally has to give them cowriter credit = genius Yea, makes sense.......... A lot of Noel's songs are co-written in a way, it's just that it's done in the form of plagiarism as opposed to sat in a room with writers. Also, he already said he would play things for this new album and then Holmes would piece things together in the form of a track, then Noel would write on top of that. Is that not co-writing?
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Post by mancraider on Nov 11, 2017 7:17:43 GMT -5
@aboycalledelso, I don't delete any posts in this thread. As I said, we move the posts with insulting and name calling. People should be able to debate without insulting others who disagree them. Precisely. And to some people on here: please stop playing the victim. It's getting annoying. Apologies for my part in derailing the thread. I could point out that I never called anyone any names or insulted anyone but tbf I was being intentionally provocative to wind people up. The fact that I was attacked for being too sensitive because I objected to calling people names must highlighted how warped the mindset of some on here is though. I'll move on now. Cheers.
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Post by rickypaglais on Nov 11, 2017 7:46:19 GMT -5
The words of a defeated man. Fuck me, I'd be ashamed to put out music as bad as Holy Mountain. The table has turned and people are seeing through the bullshit he says to the press, and now it is working against him.
It's a long way down, when you're the wrong way 'round.
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Post by The Escapist on Nov 11, 2017 9:19:43 GMT -5
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Post by funhouse on Nov 11, 2017 9:31:10 GMT -5
@aboycalledelso and AdidasNG72, I don't delete any posts in this thread. As I said, we move the posts with insulting and name calling. People should be able to debate without insulting others who disagree them. I'm wondering why my post was moved. I wasn't talking about a specific person, my comment was aimed towards those on "Team Noel/Liam" that get upset by the brothers insulting each other. I called it ironic because childish/sometimes funny insults has always been an Oasis trademark. I don't think my comment was particularly insulting, and it didn't contain any name calling either.
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Post by mimmihopps on Nov 11, 2017 9:54:05 GMT -5
@aboycalledelso and AdidasNG72, I don't delete any posts in this thread. As I said, we move the posts with insulting and name calling. People should be able to debate without insulting others who disagree them. I'm wondering why my post was moved. I wasn't talking about a specific person, my comment was aimed towards those on "Team Noel/Liam" that get upset by the brothers insulting each other. I called it ironic because childish/sometimes funny insults has always been an Oasis trademark. I don't think my comment was particularly insulting, and it didn't contain any name calling either. Your post wasn't insulting or name calling, yet it did connect following posts. That's why it was moved. Sometimes I have to move my own posts to playpen as well. Hope you understand. Cheers.
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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on Nov 11, 2017 9:56:38 GMT -5
This thread reminded me of...
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Post by alwaysnow on Nov 11, 2017 10:25:26 GMT -5
Am I the only one who thinks going through this thread is fun?
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Post by mancraider on Nov 11, 2017 10:34:07 GMT -5
Am I the only one who thinks going through this thread is fun? Yeah, makes me laugh.
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Post by mrose on Nov 11, 2017 10:36:54 GMT -5
Am I the only one who thinks going through this thread is fun? No you're not it's pretty entertaining. I'm only skimming and I'm finding some good gems in here haha
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Post by funhouse on Nov 11, 2017 10:57:11 GMT -5
I'm wondering why my post was moved. I wasn't talking about a specific person, my comment was aimed towards those on "Team Noel/Liam" that get upset by the brothers insulting each other. I called it ironic because childish/sometimes funny insults has always been an Oasis trademark. I don't think my comment was particularly insulting, and it didn't contain any name calling either. Your post wasn't insulting or name calling, yet it did connect following posts. That's why it was moved. Sometimes I have to move my own posts to playpen as well. Hope you understand. Cheers. I hadn't actually read those comments when I posted, but I understand your reasoning.
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Post by The Milkman & The Riverman on Nov 11, 2017 11:15:43 GMT -5
Blah blah blah. Liam is a great singer and charismatic frontman, plus a decent songwriter. Noel wrote fucking Live Forever. Both are extremely talented human beings and each of them has all the ingredients to be successful. End of.
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