|
|
Post by janedoe on Apr 22, 2018 17:06:02 GMT -5
|
|
|
|
Post by bt95 on Apr 22, 2018 17:06:54 GMT -5
So, talking of nonsensical criticism...
Wtf does that mean?
|
|
|
|
Post by bt95 on Apr 22, 2018 17:07:55 GMT -5
Hah, I've just quoted that. I don't get what he means by 'wanted to be Noel...' He is Noel. He isn't Oasis. He has never tried to be Oasis. It makes no sense. |
|
|
|
Post by bt95 on Apr 22, 2018 17:10:27 GMT -5
|
|
|
|
Post by janedoe on Apr 22, 2018 17:12:33 GMT -5
|
|
|
|
Post by janedoe on Apr 22, 2018 17:23:18 GMT -5
So, talking of nonsensical criticism... Wtf does that mean? That tweet stood out. I thought it was about the lack of Oasis tunes, and some on this forum suggest that Noel is not including enough Oasis in his set. |
|
|
|
Post by bt95 on Apr 22, 2018 18:16:27 GMT -5
So, talking of nonsensical criticism... Wtf does that mean? That tweet stood out. I thought it was about the lack of Oasis tunes, and some on this forum suggest that Noel is not including enough Oasis in his set. I know, mostly the same people who complained there'd be too much Oasis in the last few tours... He's playing six Oasis songs. Two of them their biggest hits, three others were number one singles and one is a beloved b-side. There's room for one or two more, but it's hardly devoid of Oasis songs. |
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Apr 22, 2018 19:06:26 GMT -5
Noel's made it pretty clear he's gone in a different direction. People shouldn't go if they just want to hear Oasis songs.
|
|
|
|
Post by spaneli on Apr 22, 2018 20:18:37 GMT -5
Noel's made it pretty clear he's gone in a different direction. People shouldn't go if they just want to hear Oasis songs. From the beginning of HFB's Noel has said that it would be his hope that he'd have less-and-less Oasis songs in his set. |
|
|
|
Post by Lennon2217 on Apr 22, 2018 20:42:42 GMT -5
Noel's made it pretty clear he's gone in a different direction. People shouldn't go if they just want to hear Oasis songs. From the beginning of HFB's Noel has said that it would be his hope that he'd have less-and-less Oasis songs in his set. And hopefully he will get that point. |
|
|
|
Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on Apr 23, 2018 0:51:44 GMT -5
So, talking of nonsensical criticism... Wtf does that mean? That tweet stood out. I thought it was about the lack of Oasis tunes, and some on this forum suggest that Noel is not including enough Oasis in his set. And if he includes more, the same people will complain there are too many Oasis songs. He can't win with some people. |
|
|
|
Post by tomlivesforever on Apr 23, 2018 3:41:33 GMT -5
He's solo, why people wouldn't understand that he would look over time to include more solo material is beyond me. You'd just like to see him make better use of the great tunes he's amassed over the years.
|
|
|
|
Post by Heynow2005 on Apr 23, 2018 3:47:29 GMT -5
I'm happy for a good mix of solo/oasis songs and with the exception of BCWYWF i am looking forward to hearing the new songs live but do we really need a Beatles cover that totally drains any remaining energy out of the set, just seems a really poor way to end the gig ? The only hope of any sort of energy in that encore is Go Let It Out, and by doing acoustic DLBIA it sucks the life right out of it straight away again! I'm not one to get involved in the liam/Noel fight but at least with Liams gigs he gets the crowd going a bit with Be here now and C&A etc
Also totally understandable for less oasis more NGHFB but at least change it up instead of Half the world Away, wonderwall etc. Plenty of good oasis songs in that style he could rotate in and out. Don't go away, cast no shadow etc etc
|
|
|
|
Post by bt95 on Apr 23, 2018 4:02:12 GMT -5
I'm happy for a good mix of solo/oasis songs and with the exception of BCWYWF i am looking forward to hearing the new songs live but do we really need a Beatles cover that totally drains any remaining energy out of the set, just seems a really poor way to end the gig ? The only hope of any sort of energy in that encore is Go Let It Out, and by doing acoustic DLBIA it sucks the life right out of it straight away again! I'm not one to get involved in the liam/Noel fight but at least with Liams gigs he gets the crowd going a bit with Be here now and C&A etc Also totally understandable for less oasis more NGHFB but at least change it up instead of Half the world Away, wonderwall etc. Plenty of good oasis songs in that style he could rotate in and out. Don't go away, cast no shadow etc etc When he started I agreed with this viewpoint but a lot of the people who have gone seem to rate this as one of the best moments of the night. A massive sing along and a tribute to the best there ever was. I think you'll be surprised. End of the day, Noel's crowd isn't a crowd that's going to 'get going' like a Liam crowd. To paraphrase David Brent, different crowd, different... needs. And again, while I agree HTWAW and WW could be dropped, they seem like real highlights for getting the crowd involved - which as you have pointed out above, is what you want. We can't have our cake and eat it  |
|
|
|
Post by bt95 on Apr 23, 2018 4:05:04 GMT -5
They all look like they had a shit time...
|
|
|
|
Post by bt95 on Apr 23, 2018 4:06:45 GMT -5
STMHTF is a weird one for me. Love the album version but think it drags on too long live.
It seemed good yesterday, though.
|
|
|
|
Post by AdidasNG72 on Apr 23, 2018 4:26:42 GMT -5
I went to the Brighton gig last night, and the atmosphere was a little strange. I was seated above in the south balcony so could get a decent overall view of the crowd standing in the pit, and mostly none of them were dancing to the majority of the songs. The only real time the crowd got into it and and started singing and becoming lively was during Little by Little (bizarrely), which was the one real highlight of the concert.
The new material really went down like a lead balloon, even though I personally thought it sounded great - particularly Holy Mountain and Dead in the Water, which sounded awesome.
I was seated and everyone around me were seated and not even tapping their feet to the music. Me and my wife were the only ones trying to dance while sitting in our chairs, and I felt conscious of the static, wooden people sat around me. It was a very bizarre atmosphere, where I didn't feel I could stand and start dancing. Very frustrating.
I think the mistake was a lack of well-known Oasis songs to jeer the crowd up. Go Let It Out wasn't one of their biggest, well-known tracks anyway, so I'm not sure why it was chosen, and that song also really emphasised the absence of Liam's voice.
The other Oasis tracks were rather odd choices too, and to think of the songs he could have gone with. There seemed to be more Oasis Mk2 tracks than Mk1 songs which was strange, and having none from BHN just pissed me off even more. Noel trying to make some sort of statement again maybe?
The one real dud song in the entire gig was Be Careful What You Wish For, which really killed the momentum. That song is probably the weakest on the album anyway, and why it was selected I'll never know. Its slow, meandering, doesn't go anywhere, and not appropriate at all for concerts.
Half the World Away managed to get the crowd going, but Wonderwall fell a bit flat too, due to the way Noel was singing it.
Overall, the concert sounded great, the laser light show and back screen videos looked very cool, but the atmosphere from the audience was strange at times, some of the track selections were odd, and the decision to go with more solo material than Oasis tracks was a big mistake in my book.
I can see now why Liam is knocking it out of the park at live gigs in comparison to this. I personally didn't fancy going to a Liam concert due to the worry of being subjected to piss flying around and too many dickheads - a big drawback to the old Oasis gigs in their day, but in comparison to the lacklustre audience last night, Noel's gig went too far in the other direction.
|
|
|
|
Post by GlastoEls on Apr 23, 2018 5:08:21 GMT -5
^ Superb post.
Looking forward to Noel on Friday.
Only thing I’d add is that Liam gigs have been full of indie kids like early ish Oasis gigs and have been the best ‘Gallagher’ concerts in years (in my humble opinion).
|
|
|
|
Post by bt95 on Apr 23, 2018 5:18:33 GMT -5
I went to the Brighton gig last night, and the atmosphere was a little strange. I was seated above in the south balcony so could get a decent overall view of the crowd standing in the pit, and mostly none of them were dancing to the majority of the songs. The only real time the crowd got into it and and started singing and becoming lively was during Little by Little (bizarrely), which was the one real highlight of the concert. The new material really went down like a lead balloon, even though I personally thought it sounded great - particularly Holy Mountain and Dead in the Water, which sounded awesome. I was seated and everyone around me were seated and not even tapping their feet to the music. Me and my wife were the only ones trying to dance while sitting in our chairs, and I felt conscious of the static, wooden people sat around me. It was a very bizarre atmosphere, where I didn't feel I could stand and start dancing. Very frustrating. I think the mistake was a lack of well-known Oasis songs to jeer the crowd up. Go Let It Out wasn't one of their biggest, well-known tracks anyway, so I'm not sure why it was chosen, and that song also really emphasised the absence of Liam's voice. The other Oasis tracks were rather odd choices too, and to think of the songs he could have gone with. There seemed to be more Oasis Mk2 tracks than Mk1 songs which was strange, and having none from BHN just pissed me off even more. Noel trying to make some sort of statement again maybe? The one real dud song in the entire gig was Be Careful What You Wish For, which really killed the momentum. That song is probably the weakest on the album anyway, and why it was selected I'll never know. Its slow, meandering, doesn't go anywhere, and not appropriate at all for concerts. Half the World Away managed to get the crowd going, but Wonderwall fell a bit flat too, due to the way Noel was singing it. Overall, the concert sounded great, the laser light show and back screen videos looked very cool, but the atmosphere from the audience was strange at times, some of the track selections were odd, and the decision to go with more solo material than Oasis tracks was a big mistake in my book. I can see now why Liam is knocking it out of the park at live gigs in comparison to this. I personally didn't fancy going to a Liam concert due to the worry of being subjected to piss flying around and too many dickheads - a big drawback to the old Oasis gigs in their day, but in comparison to the lacklustre audience last night, Noel's gig went too far in the other direction. I'd say he really could do with moving LBL up in the set. People on here/die hard Oasis fans seem to pour scorn on that song, but it is an anthem. On the last tour, Fade Away was at 4 or 5 in the set and kicked the crowd into life (at least casual fans). Anyway, I'm going to be standing, on a Friday night in Manchester, at the start of a bank holiday weekend. I'm going to be reasonably (ahem) er, 'relaxed' for the gig and I'm hoping it's going to be great. My main thing will be that while I will undoubtedly enjoy it, more casual fans just won't get it, but fuck em. |
|
|
|
Post by AdidasNG72 on Apr 23, 2018 5:20:49 GMT -5
^ Superb post. Looking forward to Noel on Friday. Only thing I’d add is that Liam gigs have been full of indie kids like early ish Oasis gigs and have been the best ‘Gallagher’ concerts in years (in my humble opinion). I think I may have to do a Liam concert now, so I can compare. |
|
|
|
Post by eva on Apr 23, 2018 5:51:36 GMT -5
several people mentioned one of the low points in a set is Be Careful... which is a shame because it's one of my faves from the last album. I listened to live recordings and it sounds great. the band sounds great and it seems logical to play it having someone like YSee doing the backing vocals. Same with The Right Stuff
but I can see why it must not be for the general audience
|
|
|
|
Post by mimmihopps on Apr 23, 2018 5:57:56 GMT -5
several people mentioned one of the low points in a set is Be Careful... which is a shame because it's one of my faves from the last album. I listened to live recordings and it sounds great. the band sounds great and it seems logical to play it having someone like YSee doing the backing vocals. Same with The Right Stuff but I can see why it must not be for the general audience I completely agree with you, eva. Be Careful... and The Right Stuff sounded great in Amsterdam last week and YSee was just fantastic. Noel couldn't play these songs live without her. |
|
|
|
Post by spaneli on Apr 23, 2018 7:11:23 GMT -5
several people mentioned one of the low points in a set is Be Careful... which is a shame because it's one of my faves from the last album. I listened to live recordings and it sounds great. the band sounds great and it seems logical to play it having someone like YSee doing the backing vocals. Same with The Right Stuff but I can see why it must not be for the general audience I absolutely love Be Careful.... I don't understand the hate it gets. To me, it's that mature Oasis/Noel songwriting that I have been waiting for. Doing what Noel used to do best, stealing from the Beatles and reinventing. Such a chill groovy track. Also has one of the best solos I've heard on a Noel track in sometime. When I saw it live, I thought it was amazing too. |
|
|
|
Post by AdidasNG72 on Apr 23, 2018 7:13:42 GMT -5
several people mentioned one of the low points in a set is Be Careful... which is a shame because it's one of my faves from the last album. I listened to live recordings and it sounds great. the band sounds great and it seems logical to play it having someone like YSee doing the backing vocals. Same with The Right Stuff but I can see why it must not be for the general audience YSee definitely improved the song. Noel even made a quip beforehand, something along the lines about her making a shit song sound great, which I thought was a bit telling. The Right Stuff laser show was awesome, but again the song just didn't seem to play well to the crowd. It appeared obvious at the end of the gig that they wanted more Oasis, less solo. During those songs it was the only time the crowd appeared animated. I understand the need for Noel to promote his solo stuff too, particularly the new album, but it did feel a bit like there was too much of that, and not enough old tracks to keep the crowd entertained enough. |
|
|
|
Post by AdidasNG72 on Apr 23, 2018 7:16:24 GMT -5
several people mentioned one of the low points in a set is Be Careful... which is a shame because it's one of my faves from the last album. I listened to live recordings and it sounds great. the band sounds great and it seems logical to play it having someone like YSee doing the backing vocals. Same with The Right Stuff but I can see why it must not be for the general audience I absolutely love Be Careful.... I don't understand the hate it gets. To me, it's that mature Oasis/Noel songwriting that I have been waiting for. Doing what Noel used to do best, stealing from the Beatles and reinventing. Such a chill groovy track. Also has one of the best solos I've heard on a Noel track in sometime. When I saw it live, I thought it was amazing too. That song is the one track I skip now when listening to the album, as are the two instrumentals. |
|
Nov 4, 2024 5:04:30 GMT -5
Nov 4, 2024 5:04:30 GMT -5