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Post by GlastoEls on Sept 1, 2017 14:31:03 GMT -5
Now THIS is how you mix beats and rock n' roll... My gosh - LOVE this. |
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Post by GlastoEls on Sept 1, 2017 14:38:14 GMT -5
If we can get a great 'rock & roll' record from Liam, and something unusual from Noel... perfect autumn....
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Post by neila83 on Sept 1, 2017 16:52:33 GMT -5
That's an interesting point, and one that hints at why he refused to produce Chasing Yesterday; basically because all the songs were completely finished, giving him little creative influence. Like I said previously, if it is a 'rock' record, then let's hope to god it is in the vein of Fuckin In The Bushes. That dabbles in electronic production techniques like sampling, loops and synths that are going on behind the Led Zep style riff, and is all the better for it. Those largely used electronic techniques - whether it be the drum loop, the vocal sample, the swirling synth that you can make out - sound so weird to put you off kilter, while the ears face an onslaught of guitar riffs and choirs. Yes, your reaction should be 'what the fuck is this?!'. That's what rock music should do - make you sit bolt upright and assault the hearing. And, not to get too sidetracked, despite the cliches thrown around that Oasis in the 90s were purely a retro nostalgic act, I do believe they pushed the boat out sonically - albeit in the most reckless manner possible. What with the Owen Morris brickwalling, the vast distortion and earth quake inducing guitars, these were pretty modern techniques that really pushed the noise levels up to the maximum (taking hints here and there from shoegaze), so much so that much of what went before sounds relatively tame. The success of Oasis did not purely rely on nostalgia and conventional songwriting, it was also largely down to the fact that they DID sound like a modern band. Oasis, and the following solo projects, biggest failures are exactly down to sounding TOO retro at times. I'm amazed that some folk think rock and electronic styles are mutually incompatible. Combined together, it more often than not conjures up the heaviest, most in-your-face hard hitting intimidating sounds of the modern era - something that 'rock n roll' prided itself on back in the day, yet whose proponents these days are so insufferably inoffensive and dull that you get the impression they don't have any idea how to 'rock'. And yes, I count the poorer Oasis material and Beady Eye in that. It would have been great if Noel had taken an extra year to make Giants with a producer who pushed him to write and experiment in the studio. The weaker, more conventional songs should have been binned and Fuckin In The Bushes should have been the template for the album, along with other Noel experiments like Setting Sun. It would have been a fantastic reinvention: the hard hitting ballsiness would still be there, although the means to being 'hard hitting' and 'ballsy' would have changed. The ethos of the band would have remained intact while the band made sonic leaps. That is precisely why Liam's vocals are a wasted asset on so many songs (particularly the simpering Beady Eye); what better voice is there in the world to combine with the sonic assaults of electronica inspired music? You are not going to forget that easily, so why he - or Oasis - didn't bother beats me. So when Noel says the album will be a 'rock' record, I sure as hell hope he doesn't mean in the style of a middle aged pub dweller rocking out to Status Quo (like many of his recent 'rock' songs). Of course, if it's largely electronica I'd be delighted, but if he is eager to still play the rockstar, then now is the time to put your balls on the line.... like a real rockstar. Two songs for the SOTSOG era that do exactly that!! Such a shame the Death in Vegas thing didn't work out for Oasis. Quite ironic given the album which actually got which was a very stripped down 60s rock album. They clearly never had the songs to be working with Death in Vegas though at that time, SOTSOG would have been a much better time. That Hindu Times demo seriously pisses me off because its SOOOO much better than the finished product. Shows where Noel was going before he completely bottled it with that album and you ended up with Oasis trying to sound like what they think Oasis should sound like, but just being a sad shadow of themselves. The lyrics as well, the final version was awful, on the demo, rather haunting. That era was such a missed opportunity, Noel had the right idea, shame they ended up basically producing albums just to justify a tour, they really could have stayed incredible with the effort and balls. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2017 17:05:24 GMT -5
Waaaaa waaaaaa waaaaa.
Bunch of winers.
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Post by batfink30 on Sept 1, 2017 17:32:53 GMT -5
Waaaaa waaaaaa waaaaa. Bunch of winers. "Bunch of winners" don't you mean? |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2017 20:05:37 GMT -5
Never understood the love for The Hindu Times demo. Except the drum beat and the fact it sounds darker than on the autopilot HC version, it's pretty much the same tune. And by Noel standard, it's really meh.
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Post by XTRMNTRSCREAM on Sept 1, 2017 20:36:52 GMT -5
Lyrics are better on the demo too.
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Post by buggoff on Sept 1, 2017 21:11:00 GMT -5
Waaaaa waaaaaa waaaaa. Bunch of winers. "Bunch of winners" don't you mean?  |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2017 23:32:15 GMT -5
Never understood the love for The Hindu Times demo. Except the drum beat and the fact it sounds darker than on the autopilot HC version, it's pretty much the same tune. And by Noel standard, it's really meh. Totally respect your opinion, but do just one thing and then report back: download the demo, put it on your phone, and then plug into your car....start engine and feel that beat...then the guitar kick in...fooking heaven  (Why I Love Noel Gallagher = a simple stock drum track had me "dancing" more than any other song that wanted me to) |
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Post by mimmihopps on Sept 2, 2017 2:39:28 GMT -5
I'm not expecting his new album will be released in November to be honest, but if it will, it'll be great and busy Autumn/Winter for all the Gallagher fans in every continent.
October - Liam's first ever solo album and Noel heading to South America in October
November - Liam to the US/Canada and (possibly) Noel's new album
December - Liam's UK tour
Who could have imagine this a year ago?
Liam finally back to where he belongs to (bye bye gossip papers) and both Gallaghers are on full track.
It's fantastic. None of them can never beat Oasis for me because I'll always be a huge Oasis fan, but I'm very happy to seeing them creating and playing music.
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Post by GlastoEls on Sept 2, 2017 4:23:29 GMT -5
I'm not expecting his new album will be released in November to be honest, but if it will, it'll be great and busy Autumn/Winter for all the Gallagher fans in every continent. October - Liam's first ever solo album and Noel heading to South America in October November - Liam to the US/Canada and (possibly) Noel's new album December - Liam's UK tour Who could have imagine this a year ago? Liam finally back to where he belongs to (bye bye gossip papers) and both Gallaghers are on full track. It's fantastic. None of them can never beat Oasis for me because I'll always be a huge Oasis fan, but I'm very happy to seeing them creating and playing music. +1 |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 2, 2017 14:48:28 GMT -5
Keep thinking of that Coldplay tune ffs  |
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Post by matt on Sept 2, 2017 14:55:11 GMT -5
Keep thinking of that Coldplay tune ffs Which one is that? Genuine question as it probably refers to latter Coldplay! |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 2, 2017 15:03:13 GMT -5
Keep thinking of that Coldplay tune ffs Which one is that? Genuine question as it probably refers to latter Coldplay!  |
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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on Sept 2, 2017 15:13:09 GMT -5
Keep thinking of that Coldplay tune ffs Same. And that's not a bad thing at all! |
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Post by mossy on Sept 2, 2017 15:28:44 GMT -5
Waaaaa waaaaaa waaaaa. Bunch of winers. I'm more of a wino myself x |
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Post by matt on Sept 2, 2017 15:48:58 GMT -5
Which one is that? Genuine question as it probably refers to latter Coldplay! Ah so not latter Coldplay then thank goodness. |
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Post by The Chief on Sept 2, 2017 18:52:23 GMT -5
Ah so not latter Coldplay then thank goodness. You mean what I refer to as Chris Martin's midlife crisis?  |
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Sept 2, 2017 21:52:54 GMT -5
If we can get a great 'rock & roll' record from Liam, and something unusual from Noel... perfect autumn.... And don't forget T Swift!!!! <3 |
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Post by Lennon2217 on Sept 3, 2017 9:05:52 GMT -5
And Taylor dropped another new single last night. Good thing Noel didn't release his song on Friday.
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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on Sept 3, 2017 10:19:31 GMT -5
A big radio show over here has this item where people can vote for a newly released song to be played or not. Last week it was that new Taylor Swift one. They played a snippet of it. 85% voted for it not to be played |
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Post by Lennon2217 on Sept 3, 2017 14:34:25 GMT -5
A big radio show over here has this item where people can vote for a newly released song to be played or not. Last week it was that new Taylor Swift one. They played a snippet of it. 85% voted for it not to be played That might be the only place in the world right now. I've heard it everywhere. |
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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on Sept 3, 2017 14:53:28 GMT -5
A big radio show over here has this item where people can vote for a newly released song to be played or not. Last week it was that new Taylor Swift one. They played a snippet of it. 85% voted for it not to be played That might be the only place in the world right now. I've heard it everywhere. Yeah well, the Netherlands isn't exactly known for it's big surface |
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Post by bringmethemonkey on Sept 3, 2017 15:03:43 GMT -5
Reminds me of that song by Devo......
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Post by Hans Gruber on Sept 3, 2017 18:59:33 GMT -5
A big radio show over here has this item where people can vote for a newly released song to be played or not. Last week it was that new Taylor Swift one. They played a snippet of it. 85% voted for it not to be played What in God's holy name are you blathering about? The god damn plane has crashed into the mountain! Her life was in your hands! Thanks. |
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