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Post by dontbelievethetruth4 on Aug 20, 2017 11:55:22 GMT -5
I know we all give them shit for not being a good band but they have earned it at this point. I know we will not see a band change till the touring is done bc it's prob not easy to bring someone new in but once this album and tour is done someone needs to step in and make a change even if it's not liam or even if it upsets him. You can like a group of guys all you want but they are making him look like an amateur and that's not good to kick off your solo career. I think the guys make it seem more like a real band but liam will go no where with this band. We keep saying give them time but they have had almost a year at this point bc they had been rehearsing for a long time before the tour. It's inexcusable to mess up the lead time and time again or be playing a guitar that sounds horribly out of tune. They need a better band and better sound guys. Also the sound guys should be better bc the mixes are horrible most nights. I know it prob sounds better at the should but it's no excuse at this point. It's a shame bc the record label should have stepped in by now bc there's no way liam and others in that circle don't know how bad it's been. Sorry for the rant lol
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Post by magicman on Aug 20, 2017 12:18:33 GMT -5
r they rly that bad? can you post examples please?
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Post by jxing on Aug 20, 2017 12:23:06 GMT -5
Can't remember what interview that Liam said that 2 band members came together...think it was mike and drew?
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Post by walterglass on Aug 20, 2017 12:24:02 GMT -5
They're not as bad as some on here would have people think. And I'm glad Liam doesn't have to battle with that wall of noise anymore.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 20, 2017 13:00:46 GMT -5
I know we all give them shit for not being a good band Not everyone thinks like that. When i saw them live they sounded good. Very loud. There were no sound problems. Are you judging them by internet videos or have you been to gigs?
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Post by ricardogce on Aug 20, 2017 13:18:11 GMT -5
r they rly that bad? can you post examples please? RNRS intro. 50-50 chance Jay fucks it up.
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Post by dontbelievethetruth4 on Aug 20, 2017 13:24:20 GMT -5
I know we all give them shit for not being a good band Not everyone thinks like that. When i saw them live they sounded good. Very loud. There were no sound problems. Are you judging them by internet videos or have you been to gigs? not every show is bad but you have a 50/50 chance the leads will be messed up or the drumming is off. A pro should be 98/2% the videos online are bad to judge but even pro shot has been pretty bad. Maybe we all don't think they are bad but a lot do.
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Post by deasy on Aug 20, 2017 13:26:08 GMT -5
Jay needs to go but I think the rest of them are fine.
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Post by justaroundmidnight on Aug 20, 2017 15:41:28 GMT -5
Can't remember what interview that Liam said that 2 band members came together...think it was mike and drew? Two for the price of one.
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Post by My Big Name on Aug 20, 2017 17:13:30 GMT -5
To be honest I don't know what's so bad about them, I don't play guitar or know anything about it so I can't really analyse any of the playing and tell when it's good or bad but to me they sound fine and seem to be able to play the Oasis songs pretty well considering they didn't write the songs and don't have THAT much experience with playing them.
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Post by dontbelievethetruth4 on Aug 20, 2017 18:58:06 GMT -5
To be honest I don't know what's so bad about them, I don't play guitar or know anything about it so I can't really analyse any of the playing and tell when it's good or bad but to me they sound fine and seem to be able to play the Oasis songs pretty well considering they didn't write the songs and don't have THAT much experience with playing them. the Oasis songs are what the mess up the most and can not play the solos with any heart or match what they should be. RnRS is messed up almost every show
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Post by Deleted on Aug 20, 2017 18:59:54 GMT -5
r they rly that bad? can you post examples please? RNRS intro. 50-50 chance Jay fucks it up.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 20, 2017 20:14:59 GMT -5
Gem would have been perfect for RNRS and DYKWIM?
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Post by knownoname on Aug 20, 2017 22:47:31 GMT -5
r they rly that bad? can you post examples please? Somebody (Jay?) hit the wrong chord at 3:07 and I know that sounds like nitpicking, but this really shouldn't happen at that level. And there were other recordings from other songs where they just messed up some really simple chords.
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Post by holidayinthesun on Aug 20, 2017 23:42:07 GMT -5
This band is great, good enough, what's the big deal? Chill.
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Post by spaneli on Aug 21, 2017 0:23:57 GMT -5
I expect musicians to make reasonable mistakes. No band plays perfectly every night. Just doesn't happen.
From a musician's standpoint, the mistakes they make on a night-to-night basis is unacceptable from professional musicians. It's pretty difficult to notice poor musicianship at a gig because usually you're too into the show to notice. At the Lolla aftershow, it was noticeable. And really, this isn't even a matter of technical ability. Oasis in the beginning lacked a lot of technical ability, but they knew how to play their songs.
People can bury their heads in the sand, but this band is bad. Liam is the only person who makes each performance salvageable or many times, great.
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Post by space75gr on Aug 21, 2017 0:33:12 GMT -5
I v got no problem with the band members. New band n songs, new sound, let the liam' s voice shine. They r gonna be better n better in every gig It's only rock n roll after all n I prefer a gang than a band with "professional" musicians... The last thing to expect here is try to find a chord mistake in 3:07 or 1:26...if you know what I mean..it's not opera its not Radiohead ffs... Just rnr
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Post by spaneli on Aug 21, 2017 0:36:55 GMT -5
I v got no problem with the band members. New band n songs, new sound, let the liam' s voice shine. They r gonna be better n better in every gig It's only rock n roll after all n I prefer a gang than a band with "professional" musicians... The last thing to expect here is try to find a chord mistake in 3:07 or 1:26...if you know what I mean..it's not opera its not Radiohead ffs...Just rnr But they are "professional" musicians. That's the point. Expecting a professional musician to know how to bend a note isn't Radiohead. It's called music. It's something a beginner could do. Hell, Liam could probably bend a note better and he's not being paid to. Good rock n' roll is good music played well. Aren't many good rock n roll bands that have a guitarist who can't bend a note properly. Cause bending a note is kinda a requirement to actually play rock n roll.
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Post by Velo on Aug 21, 2017 0:38:07 GMT -5
I expect musicians to make reasonable mistakes. No band plays perfectly every night. Just doesn't happen. From a musician's standpoint, the mistakes they make on a night-to-night basis is unacceptable from professional musicians. It's pretty difficult to notice poor musicianship at a gig because usually you're too into the show to notice. At the Lolla aftershow, it was noticeable. And really, this isn't even a matter of technical ability. Oasis in the beginning lacked a lot of technical ability, but they knew how to play their songs. People can bury their heads in the sand, but this band is bad. Liam is the only person who makes each performance salvageable or many times, great. really doesn't help matters that we took Oasis and Beady Eye's live show for granted. Bonehead, Guigsy and Tony were rock solid. Even mk2 were great, there's a reason they sounded great in stadiums. I've defended Liam's band before but it's pretty clear now they haven't exactly tightened up after multiple shows together. Jay's really the only bad apple but I wonder if Liam will stick with it or change it up before the second round of tour dates?
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Post by spaneli on Aug 21, 2017 0:41:52 GMT -5
I expect musicians to make reasonable mistakes. No band plays perfectly every night. Just doesn't happen. From a musician's standpoint, the mistakes they make on a night-to-night basis is unacceptable from professional musicians. It's pretty difficult to notice poor musicianship at a gig because usually you're too into the show to notice. At the Lolla aftershow, it was noticeable. And really, this isn't even a matter of technical ability. Oasis in the beginning lacked a lot of technical ability, but they knew how to play their songs. People can bury their heads in the sand, but this band is bad. Liam is the only person who makes each performance salvageable or many times, great. really doesn't help matters that we took Oasis and Beady Eye's live show for granted. Bonehead, Guigsy and Tony were rock solid. Even mk2 were great, there's a reason they sounded great in stadiums. I've defended Liam's band before but it's pretty clear now they haven't exactly tightened up after multiple shows together. Jay's really the only bad apple but I wonder if Liam will stick with it or change it up before the second round of tour dates? Jay is bad. He might be the worst musician that's ever played with either Gallagher and I'n including Tony in the discussion (at least Tony had a unique sound). The other guys are average. They don't add anything, but they don't take anything away. They're completely and utterly expendable imo. And I agree, they've had more than enough gigs to tighten up. Considering that they've been playing together for nearly a year, including rehearsals, for professional musicians...guys who are hired to step in and meld quickly with the people around them...it doesn't make sense that they haven't gotten their act together.
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Post by osoasis on Aug 21, 2017 3:38:29 GMT -5
I think they are doing a great job, I really like the drummer, but I think they should pick someone else to do the backing vocals.
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Post by andymorris on Aug 21, 2017 3:43:10 GMT -5
They are not bad musicians, but a bit flat, bland and overall they're not agressive enough in their playing.
But that's the problem with most touring musicians. they all sound the same because they're playing a part for a boss.
Liam should hire some dirtier guitar player, and a drummer that is not afraid to sound loud. Very loud.
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Post by mancraider on Aug 21, 2017 5:23:52 GMT -5
If the album is well received and gig reviews generally positive then I don't think Liam will care about people grumbling on the Internet.
He's always been a bit a luddite when it comes to the finer points of musical performance. While I do think he plays up to the part to an extent he really won't be worrying about a few missed notes as long as people are jumping about at gigs.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 21, 2017 7:16:52 GMT -5
r they rly that bad? can you post examples please? RNRS intro. 50-50 chance Jay fucks it up. How is it even possible? I mean it's just a bend (and release) with couple of notes played. Simples. And their sound is thin compared to Oasis. But on the other hand that probably helps Liam.
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Post by macnuggets on Aug 21, 2017 7:32:56 GMT -5
Just out of curiosity, how many people have seen Liam's band live and still didn't like them? Only asking as I recently saw them twice in 4 days in NYC and thought they all sounded fantastic. I never saw Oasis (they skipped Aus on the DOYS tour) but I've seen NGHFB and BE twice each as well, and Liam solo is by far my favourite post-Oasis live band.
Maybe I don't know what I'm missing as I never got the full Oasis experience?
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