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Post by themightyeye on Nov 14, 2016 18:21:22 GMT -5
I've got this feeling he's gonna resurface a bit more fit, I fully believe he's going to sort this vocal issues via a vocal coach and or surgery if possible.
I don't see him using Twitter for a while either. I think he's gone dark folks.
I don't think we will see or hear much of Liam till the early spring.
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Nov 14, 2016 20:04:58 GMT -5
Where is Liam gonna be in summertime? And is he gonna see the heavens shine like diamonds in the sky?
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Post by Let It Bleed on Nov 14, 2016 20:15:48 GMT -5
Liãm's Twitter account was probably taken away from him, similar to what Donald Trump's advisors did with him prior to the election....
Liãm may just beat Noël yet!
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Post by Deleted on Nov 14, 2016 21:47:54 GMT -5
Where is Liam gonna be in summertime? And is he gonna see the heavens shine like diamonds in the sky? He is going out in style, d'you know what I mean?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 14, 2016 21:51:31 GMT -5
I've got this feeling he's gonna resurface a bit more fit, I fully believe he's going to sort this vocal issues via a vocal coach and or surgery if possible. I don't see him using Twitter for a while either. I think he's gone dark folks. I don't think we will see or hear much of Liam till the early spring. Are there any examples of singers who had surgery for their voice? I still wonder why his voice was so horrible in 2005/06. It's really unlistenable, couldn't he hear himself? Different way of singing? Long period of recording sessions before the tour? (Love Like a Bomb and The Quiet Ones are his worst vocals)
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Post by steve020409 on Nov 15, 2016 1:06:46 GMT -5
I've got this feeling he's gonna resurface a bit more fit, I fully believe he's going to sort this vocal issues via a vocal coach and or surgery if possible. I don't see him using Twitter for a while either. I think he's gone dark folks. I don't think we will see or hear much of Liam till the early spring. Are there any examples of singers who had surgery for their voice? I still wonder why his voice was so horrible in 2005/06. It's really unlistenable, couldn't he hear himself? Different way of singing? Long period of recording sessions before the tour? (Love Like a Bomb and The Quiet Ones are his worst vocals) Yeah I still wonder why his voice changed so suddenly. His voice until Heathen Chemistry wasn't that bad. (His voice when play concerts in 2002 were pretty bad)
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Post by Mr. Bigglesworth on Nov 15, 2016 1:34:57 GMT -5
I think this would be better in the liam thread.
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Post by His Royal Noelness on Nov 15, 2016 3:03:20 GMT -5
I've got this feeling he's gonna resurface a bit more fit, I fully believe he's going to sort this vocal issues via a vocal coach and or surgery if possible. I don't see him using Twitter for a while either. I think he's gone dark folks. I don't think we will see or hear much of Liam till the early spring. Are there any examples of singers who had surgery for their voice? I still wonder why his voice was so horrible in 2005/06. It's really unlistenable, couldn't he hear himself? Different way of singing? Long period of recording sessions before the tour? (Love Like a Bomb and The Quiet Ones are his worst vocals) Adele. I believe Elton John too. A quick google will probably give you more detail.
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Post by mimmihopps on Nov 15, 2016 3:16:42 GMT -5
Good of Liam with getting rid of twitter for a while. Social media make people a-social.
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Post by guigsysEstring on Nov 15, 2016 5:08:41 GMT -5
Are there any examples of singers who had surgery for their voice? I still wonder why his voice was so horrible in 2005/06. It's really unlistenable, couldn't he hear himself? Different way of singing? Long period of recording sessions before the tour? (Love Like a Bomb and The Quiet Ones are his worst vocals) Adele. I believe Elton John too. A quick google will probably give you more detail. KD Lang when she thought she had lost her voice for good- IIRC it was dental work sorted it out as something was affecting her in that respect but there was a period she thought she had lost it.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 15, 2016 6:42:39 GMT -5
I've got this feeling he's gonna resurface a bit more fit, I fully believe he's going to sort this vocal issues via a vocal coach and or surgery if possible. I don't see him using Twitter for a while either. I think he's gone dark folks. I don't think we will see or hear much of Liam till the early spring. Are there any examples of singers who had surgery for their voice? I still wonder why his voice was so horrible in 2005/06. It's really unlistenable, couldn't he hear himself? Different way of singing? Long period of recording sessions before the tour? (Love Like a Bomb and The Quiet Ones are his worst vocals) I can't stand his vocals in (Probably) All in the Mind. I'm not sure if it's the singing style but I definitely prefer Love Like a Bomb from those two.
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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on Nov 15, 2016 9:23:44 GMT -5
Adele. I believe Elton John too. A quick google will probably give you more detail. KD Lang when she thought she had lost her voice for good- IIRC it was dental work sorted it out as something was affecting her in that respect but there was a period she thought she had lost it. Dennis Wilson of the Beach Boys had surgery on his vocal chords in the year he died or a year prior, but it was too late. I THINK Brian had surgery too. Bjork has had surgery too. Quite a lot of singers have had it, tbh. Funny thing about dental work: Freddie Mercury never had his teeth fixed, because he was afraid it would affect his singing.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 15, 2016 9:29:37 GMT -5
KD Lang when she thought she had lost her voice for good- IIRC it was dental work sorted it out as something was affecting her in that respect but there was a period she thought she had lost it. Dennis Wilson of the Beach Boys had surgery on his vocal chords in the year he died or a year prior, but it was too late. I THINK Brian had surgery too. Bjork has had surgery too. Quite a lot of singers have had it, tbh. Funny thing about dental work: Freddie Mercury never had his teeth fixed, because he was afraid it would affect his singing. Actually, it does affect a bit, as well as the voice, so I can't really blame Mr. Bulsara here Before I fixed my teeth, my voice was more "sharp" and reached higher notes. Now it's a bit "deeper" and I can't reach these high notes anymore.
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Post by oasisserbia on Nov 15, 2016 10:32:22 GMT -5
Liam's main problem is lack of confidence. No surgery can fix that. Just watch him sing Champagne Suepernova, clip from Supersonic. There was no fear, he had no doubt that something will go wrong. Now when he gets to ,,away from summer'' part, we have sum-mah instead of suummeeeeeeeerrr. I mean, I don't know, maybe he can't hit those notes but it looks to me that he is more scared to try than that he actually can't.
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Post by guigsysEstring on Nov 15, 2016 10:36:39 GMT -5
Liam's main problem is lack of confidence. No surgery can fix that. Just watch him sing Champagne Suepernova, clip from Supersonic. There was no fear, he had no doubt that something will go wrong. Now when he gets to ,,away from summer'' part, we have sum-mah instead of suummeeeeeeeerrr. I mean, I don't know, maybe he can't hit those notes but it looks to me that he is more scared to try than that he actually can't. I know what you mean but his voice has also declined to the point that when it comes to a line like that he either needs a new approach/key to singing it or we are just going to get the half shouted "Sum-mah!". I think he could sing those songs well in a different format but the voice that made him has probably gone for good to be honest.
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Post by oasisserbia on Nov 15, 2016 11:04:47 GMT -5
Liam's main problem is lack of confidence. No surgery can fix that. Just watch him sing Champagne Suepernova, clip from Supersonic. There was no fear, he had no doubt that something will go wrong. Now when he gets to ,,away from summer'' part, we have sum-mah instead of suummeeeeeeeerrr. I mean, I don't know, maybe he can't hit those notes but it looks to me that he is more scared to try than that he actually can't. I know what you mean but his voice has also declined to the point that when it comes to a line like that he either needs a new approach/key to singing it or we are just going to get the half shouted "Sum-mah!". I think he could sing those songs well in a different format but the voice that made him has probably gone for good to be honest. It is possible but I think that nobody knows that for sure. He is now singing with a)less self-confidence b)different style, I think that he doesn't like his voice from 90s and that he is desperately trying to sound more raw, powerfull...I think that we actually don't know how he really sounds know without all that singing through nose and other nonsense. I know when I'm singing that confidence is 90%. Of course if you have ''good ear for music'' and nice vocal colour. And Liam has those two things.
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Post by Jgrp on Nov 15, 2016 16:54:25 GMT -5
People often say it's starts well on a tour and declines quickly. Not sure how that explains glasto 2004.
I agree with a post above that 2000/2002 was ok (I actually think 2002 sounded better than 2000 for some reason) but the sum-ah stuff I don't think is confidence, I think it's a decline in voice. Even when he talks he sounds lower than when younger, like we all do! But even more so if we'd sung smoke n drunk as much as him.
I think his nasal winey approach is his way of approaching it to overcome this and 'sing' but I'm not so keen on it. Think I'd rather 2005 voice than the My Generation TFIF voice
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Post by Deleted on Nov 15, 2016 17:58:24 GMT -5
People often say it's starts well on a tour and declines quickly. Not sure how that explains glasto 2004. I agree with a post above that 2000/2002 was ok (I actually think 2002 sounded better than 2000 for some reason) but the sum-ah stuff I don't think is confidence, I think it's a decline in voice. Even when he talks he sounds lower than when younger, like we all do! But even more so if we'd sung smoke n drunk as much as him. I think his nasal winey approach is his way of approaching it to overcome this and 'sing' but I'm not so keen on it. Think I'd rather 2005 voice than the My Generation TFIF voice Glastonbury was probably their lowest point in their careers, they played slow as fuck, really disappointed because they didn't had an album, and only the 2nd gig with Zak. I think Liam sung alright except for a few lines in Stop Crying Your Heart Out. (Probably the only time I'm happy that Noel finished the song) The mix wasn't the best too.
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Post by uǝɥʇɐǝɥ on Nov 15, 2016 18:16:47 GMT -5
Is this another Liam's voice thread? Or am I wrong?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 15, 2016 18:27:00 GMT -5
People often say it's starts well on a tour and declines quickly. Not sure how that explains glasto 2004. I agree with a post above that 2000/2002 was ok (I actually think 2002 sounded better than 2000 for some reason) but the sum-ah stuff I don't think is confidence, I think it's a decline in voice. Even when he talks he sounds lower than when younger, like we all do! But even more so if we'd sung smoke n drunk as much as him. I think his nasal winey approach is his way of approaching it to overcome this and 'sing' but I'm not so keen on it. Think I'd rather 2005 voice than the My Generation TFIF voice well glastonbury doesnt need an explanation because it was likely the first time that it became apparent that Liams voice had declined to a point where it wasnt coming back like it used to and it never would again, up until that point he usually started out mostly fine (2002 was shaky) the nasely stuff is probably party sugar damage in his airways, im not sure its something he decided to actually do. BE was probably the strongest hed started out since about 2002 but that didnt last long, I can assume that if Liam impresses at that start of this cycle it wont be lasting long once the touring kicks in like any other time. as for surgery, I guess it could help but then julie andrews would disagree.
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Post by themightyeye on Nov 15, 2016 21:18:07 GMT -5
Remember when he got knocked out by Russian gangsters and lost some teeth. Perhaps that changed his voice. It's a proven fact that your teeth are a big factor on how sounds flow of your tongue and out of your mouth. Anyone remember exactly when that was?
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Post by Manualex on Nov 15, 2016 21:27:50 GMT -5
Remember when he got knocked out by Russian gangsters and lost some teeth. Perhaps that changed his voice. It's a proven fact that your teeth are a big factor on how sounds flow of your tongue and out of your mouth. Anyone remember exactly when that was? Munich 2003
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Post by guigsysEstring on Nov 15, 2016 21:31:29 GMT -5
Remember when he got knocked out by Russian gangsters and lost some teeth. Perhaps that changed his voice. It's a proven fact that your teeth are a big factor on how sounds flow of your tongue and out of your mouth. Anyone remember exactly when that was? 1st December 2002, I posted one of my usual rambling replies with full details here- What Happened in Germany in 2002?
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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on Nov 16, 2016 2:18:09 GMT -5
Remember when he got knocked out by Russian gangsters and lost some teeth. Perhaps that changed his voice. It's a proven fact that your teeth are a big factor on how sounds flow of your tongue and out of your mouth. Anyone remember exactly when that was? His voice had been declining before that.
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Post by jupi on Nov 16, 2016 15:09:18 GMT -5
People often say it's starts well on a tour and declines quickly. Not sure how that explains glasto 2004. Didn't he have a night out before Glasto? Partying, all fun and no rest will affect the singing, too. One thing that doesn't often get mentioned is that Liam changed his view on playing songs sometime during 2008 (or maybe before). He claimed that he sings each gig like it's his last - an idea Andy thought made Liam a great frontman. The change is very apparent if you look his performances throughout the years. His singing is effortless and his stage presence relaxed all the way to 2002, and even in 2005/2006 he's not nearly as aggressive he became during the later years.
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