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Post by carlober on Sept 30, 2023 16:31:08 GMT -5
Fuckin hell, that single artwork looks like those fanmade pics that kids posted on MySpace in 2004.
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Post by tiger40 on Sept 30, 2023 19:32:04 GMT -5
Fuckin hell, that single artwork looks like those fanmade pics that kids posted on MySpace in 2004. You're right the artwork is shocking. |
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Post by Let It Bleed on Oct 3, 2023 16:28:38 GMT -5
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Post by 2nz on Oct 4, 2023 7:41:58 GMT -5
Song's shit. Artwork is shit.
The stuff in the Sphere looks unreal though.
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Post by matt on Oct 4, 2023 8:01:21 GMT -5
Song's shit. Artwork is shit. The stuff in the Sphere looks unreal though.
No songs beyond 2004 being performed helps. |
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Post by matt on Nov 11, 2024 16:36:05 GMT -5
I don't think anyone is looking for a new U2 album at this stage anymore, given the dearth of inspiration and creativity that surrounds the band this last decade. And I don't very much care for this pointless revisiting of the very ordinary How To Dismantle An Atomic Bomb either. So I was pleased then to see The Edge saying they are sure they will get round to revisiting Pop and releasing whatever is in the vaults. A flawed but interesting and colourful album, so much better than releasing a new beige and okay album. www.rollingstone.com/music/music-features/u2-new-album-atomic-bomb-the-edge-interview-1235152643/ |
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Post by Lennon2217 on Nov 12, 2024 8:53:08 GMT -5
I don't think anyone is looking for a new U2 album at this stage anymore, given the dearth of inspiration and creativity that surrounds the band this last decade. And I don't very much care for this pointless revisiting of the very ordinary How To Dismantle An Atomic Bomb either. So I was pleased then to see The Edge saying they are sure they will get round to revisiting Pop and releasing whatever is in the vaults. A flawed but interesting and colourful album, so much better than releasing a new beige and okay album. www.rollingstone.com/music/music-features/u2-new-album-atomic-bomb-the-edge-interview-1235152643/Yeah I donāt think I need another new U2 album. Iād love to see Achtung Baby tour taken on the road. I did enjoy the reimagined U2 compilation last spring. U2 has nothing left to say or do anymore. Theyāve literally done it all 3-4 times now. |
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Post by Let It Bleed on Nov 18, 2024 13:18:15 GMT -5
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Post by matt on Nov 18, 2024 17:33:00 GMT -5
I don't think anyone is looking for a new U2 album at this stage anymore, given the dearth of inspiration and creativity that surrounds the band this last decade. And I don't very much care for this pointless revisiting of the very ordinary How To Dismantle An Atomic Bomb either. So I was pleased then to see The Edge saying they are sure they will get round to revisiting Pop and releasing whatever is in the vaults. A flawed but interesting and colourful album, so much better than releasing a new beige and okay album. www.rollingstone.com/music/music-features/u2-new-album-atomic-bomb-the-edge-interview-1235152643/Yeah I donāt think I need another new U2 album. Iād love to see Achtung Baby tour taken on the road. I did enjoy the reimagined U2 compilation last spring. U2 has nothing left to say or do anymore. Theyāve literally done it all 3-4 times now. Yeah, thankfully it was big enough to throw aside a lot of needless stuff though. Great for the reimagined deep cuts - e.g. Dirty Day, God Will Send Angels, Stories For Boys - not so much for the material they are still trying to shove down our throats almost as if they are forcing us to say its a classic, like the risible Get Out Your Own Way and Song For Someone. Wasn't so keen on the Vegas shows, that venue seemed like a massive gimmick more than anything. And if its not accessible and toured, then they just give off even more exclusionary vibes. |
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Post by Lennon2217 on Nov 19, 2024 0:19:32 GMT -5
Yeah I donāt think I need another new U2 album. Iād love to see Achtung Baby tour taken on the road. I did enjoy the reimagined U2 compilation last spring. U2 has nothing left to say or do anymore. Theyāve literally done it all 3-4 times now. Yeah, thankfully it was big enough to throw aside a lot of needless stuff though. Great for the reimagined deep cuts - e.g. Dirty Day, God Will Send Angels, Stories For Boys - not so much for the material they are still trying to shove down our throats almost as if they are forcing us to say its a classic, like the risible Get Out Your Own Way and Song For Someone. Wasn't so keen on the Vegas shows, that venue seemed like a massive gimmick more than anything. And if its not accessible and toured, then they just give off even more exclusionary vibes. The reimagined album def worked way better for the more minor works, didn't really do much for me for their mega hits. Those didn't need to be tinkered with. |
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Post by Lennon2217 on Nov 21, 2024 20:33:09 GMT -5
I've said it before and I will say it again. U2 really fumbled the ball on their Best of 1990-2000 compilation by including 4 tracks from 2000 to 2002. It really should have just focused on their amazing 90s output. Save Everything 2000 to present for the eventual 3rd best of down the line.
I'd have done this.........
1. Even Better Than The Real Thing
2. One
3. Whose Gonna Ride Your Wild Horses
4. The Fly
5. Mysterious Ways
6. Zooropa
7. Numb
8. Lemon
9. Stay
10. The Wanderer
11. Hold Me, Thrill Me, Kiss Me, Kill Me
12. DiscothĆØque
13. If God Will Send His Angels
14. Staring At The Sun
15. Last Night On Earth
16. Please
Is it perfect? Nope but its far more representative of 1990-2000 than what they actually gave us.
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Post by matt on Nov 22, 2024 18:33:04 GMT -5
I've said it before and I will say it again. U2 really fumbled the ball on their Best of 1990-2000 compilation by including 4 tracks from 2000 to 2002. It really should have just focused on their amazing 90s output. Save Everything 2000 to present for the eventual 3rd best of down the line. I'd have done this......... 1. Even Better Than The Real Thing 2. One 3. Whose Gonna Ride Your Wild Horses 4. The Fly 5. Mysterious Ways 6. Zooropa 7. Numb 8. Lemon 9. Stay 10. The Wanderer 11. Hold Me, Thrill Me, Kiss Me, Kill Me 12. DiscothĆØque 13. If God Will Send His Angels 14. Staring At The Sun 15. Last Night On Earth 16. Please Is it perfect? Nope but its far more representative of 1990-2000 than what they actually gave us. Agree. They seemed to want to run away from their 90s experimentation, hence the inclusion of '...Leave Behind' material and butchering of the Pop singles into dadrawk. You'd certainly be having a much harder job to make up the 2000-present edition, but here's my 'best of' from the rest. 1. Beautiful Day 2. Stuck In A Moment 3. Walk On 4. Kite 5. When I Look At The World 6. Vertigo 7. City of Blinding Lights 8. Sometimes You Can't Make It On Your Own 9. No Line 10. Magnificent 11. Moment of Surrender 12. Cedars of Lebanon 13. Sleep Like A Baby 14. White As Snow 15. The Little Things That Give You Away 16. Luckiest Man In The World (aka Mercy) Gave the outtakes of Atomic Bomb a listen today, nothing great (only Mercy sounds like a full song) but some decent sketches of songs and sounds that otherwise more raw than the usual polished beyond belief offerings of latter years. Time to start hauling out all the archives and unreleased material now. That's where the interest lies now. |
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Post by Lennon2217 on Nov 23, 2024 22:23:54 GMT -5
Digging into the production credits for the Shadow album and what a cheat by U2. Most of the songs have additional work done to them by Duncan Stewart in 2024. New lyrics, new vocal takes, added guitars. To me that is so lame. Were the original demos not good enough? We know they are demos, leave them as is. Don't rework demos to make them sound like better demos. That's weird but I guess U2 is always gonna U2.
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Post by Flashbax on Nov 25, 2024 8:41:23 GMT -5
Agree with above, why polishing up demo's? Only Luckiest Man in the World sounds sort of finished. I will always have a soft spot for this band, especially live, but what's going on with Bono? He doesn't really sing anymore.
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Post by Lennon2217 on Nov 25, 2024 10:46:59 GMT -5
Agree with above, why polishing up demo's? Only Luckiest Man in the World sounds sort of finished. I will always have a soft spot for this band, especially live, but what's going on with Bono? He doesn't really sing anymore. Luckiest Man was heavily worked over for this release. I think Pictures of You was untouched. Has no current production credits attached to it. |
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Post by matt on Nov 25, 2024 17:38:55 GMT -5
Digging into the production credits for the Shadow album and what a cheat by U2. Most of the songs have additional work done to them by Duncan Stewart in 2024. New lyrics, new vocal takes, added guitars. To me that is so lame. Were the original demos not good enough? We know they are demos, leave them as is. Don't rework demos to make them sound like better demos. That's weird but I guess U2 is always gonna U2. Ultimately I think it betrays a lack of confidence in the material. I'm fine with them adding vocals and lyrics to old instrumentals (see Disappearing Act on Unforgettable Fire re-release or Wave of Sorrow on Joshua Tree re-release), but wholesale edits shows that this album, much like the following ones (although not as bad), went through production hell. I think when that happens, it shows fundamental flaws with an album and a lack of inspiration. I can kind of understand them reworking these songs because they aren't interesting enough as rough sketches. I was listening to Joshua Tree b-sides/outtakes recently and a lot of it is quite sonically interesting, quite experimental rough sketches. They could get away with that on that release because you can hear the fundamental inspiration and creativity before they finely honed them into conventional songs. Atomic Bomb, like most of their recent output, is too generic to be interesting though. |
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Post by Lennon2217 on Nov 25, 2024 18:16:17 GMT -5
Digging into the production credits for the Shadow album and what a cheat by U2. Most of the songs have additional work done to them by Duncan Stewart in 2024. New lyrics, new vocal takes, added guitars. To me that is so lame. Were the original demos not good enough? We know they are demos, leave them as is. Don't rework demos to make them sound like better demos. That's weird but I guess U2 is always gonna U2. Ultimately I think it betrays a lack of confidence in the material. I'm fine with them adding vocals and lyrics to old instrumentals (see Disappearing Act on Unforgettable Fire re-release or Wave of Sorrow on Joshua Tree re-release), but wholesale edits shows that this album, much like the following ones (although not as bad), went through production hell. I think when that happens, it shows fundamental flaws with an album and a lack of inspiration. I can kind of understand them reworking these songs because they aren't interesting enough as rough sketches. I was listening to Joshua Tree b-sides/outtakes recently and a lot of it is quite sonically interesting, quite experimental rough sketches. They could get away with that on that release because you can hear the fundamental inspiration and creativity before they finely honed them into conventional songs. Atomic Bomb, like most of their recent output, is too generic to be interesting though. I donāt mind they re-worked so many of them in 2024, itās U2, they are always gonna tinker endlessly, but I donāt like Edge acting like he found all these great outtakes just sitting in his archive bag. Donāt keep selling that story, which is very Noel by the way. Just be more straight forward. I found a CD of atomic outtakes. We added to them to please the ears of 2024 listeners. |
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Post by Lennon2217 on Nov 25, 2024 18:21:24 GMT -5
This album is a lot stronger with the following rundown.
Vertigo
Miracle Drug
Sometimes You Canāt Make It On Your Own
Picture of You
City of Blinding Lights
All Because of You
Happiness
Crumbs From Your Table
One Step Closer
Original of the Species
Mercy
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Post by Manualex on Nov 25, 2024 23:07:06 GMT -5
Still want to hear the full soundcheck of this version of Mofo. More rocker
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Post by matt on Nov 26, 2024 17:30:58 GMT -5
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Post by Lennon2217 on Nov 26, 2024 21:45:58 GMT -5
They would never attempt an album like that again. They are way too safe. I wonder who else is involved? Eno is almost 77. Surely another producer is doing the hands on work for this potential project. |
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Post by glider on Nov 26, 2024 22:59:56 GMT -5
They would never attempt an album like that again. They are way too safe. I wonder who else is involved? Eno is almost 77. Surely another producer is doing the hands on work for this potential project. McCartney's 82 and still touring. Ringo is 84 and has a new album. Gilmour is 78 and has a new album. Jagger-Richards are 80-81 and just released a new record. 77 is old, but not that old! Also Clint Eastwood is apparently still making movies and is almost 94, same with Ridley Scott at 86 (unfortunately his are sh*te). If you've feel you still got something left, go for it! |
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Post by Lennon2217 on Nov 27, 2024 0:10:07 GMT -5
They would never attempt an album like that again. They are way too safe. I wonder who else is involved? Eno is almost 77. Surely another producer is doing the hands on work for this potential project. McCartney's 82 and still touring. Ringo is 84 and has a new album. Gilmour is 78 and has a new album. Jagger-Richards are 80-81 and just released a new record. 77 is old, but not that old! Also Clint Eastwood is apparently still making movies and is almost 94, same with Ridley Scott at 86 (unfortunately his are sh*te). If you've feel you still got something left, go for it! Yeah and none of them is dropping cutting edge shit either. Itās all meh. Plus Eno wasnāt touching the controls 15-17 years ago when he was still actively āproducingā. Would George Martin have been a good idea to produce Oasis in 1996 when he was 75? Fuck no. |
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Post by glider on Nov 27, 2024 0:39:37 GMT -5
McCartney's 82 and still touring. Ringo is 84 and has a new album. Gilmour is 78 and has a new album. Jagger-Richards are 80-81 and just released a new record. 77 is old, but not that old! Also Clint Eastwood is apparently still making movies and is almost 94, same with Ridley Scott at 86 (unfortunately his are sh*te). If you've feel you still got something left, go for it! Yeah and none of them is dropping cutting edge shit either. Itās all meh. Plus Eno wasnāt touching the controls 15-17 years ago when he was still actively āproducingā. Would George Martin have been a good idea to produce Oasis in 1996 when he was 75? Fuck no. Eno could probably do something special. Lanois however had been their "real" producer on AYCLB and NLOTH, Eno seemed to be in name only on those records. |
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Post by Lennon2217 on Nov 27, 2024 9:22:39 GMT -5
Yeah and none of them is dropping cutting edge shit either. Itās all meh. Plus Eno wasnāt touching the controls 15-17 years ago when he was still actively āproducingā. Would George Martin have been a good idea to produce Oasis in 1996 when he was 75? Fuck no. Eno could probably do something special. Lanois however had been their "real" producer on AYCLB and NLOTH, Eno seemed to be in name only on those records. Lanois also drove the bus for Achtung Baby. Eno is def more of an ideas man. Like Rick Rubin. |
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