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Post by globe on Jun 7, 2016 6:30:56 GMT -5
Aye it was such a let down after the previous 3 amazing years. no it wasnt. I guess 'fans' like you let them down too. or they were just glad to kick em away with some madness you can't fucking handle... Can't handle what? Mediocre songs? I've been a fan since early 94, I've spent thousands of £s on this band, I've been posting on this forum for 13 years ffs, I've hardly been kicked away have I? This album was just a huge let down for me. I still loved them, and still do but BHN will always just be a bit crap to me.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 7, 2016 6:50:18 GMT -5
As guigsysEstring said, I think the time you discovered might be more than a little detail in the appreciation of the album. Just imagine being a fan in 1997. You've had 2 albums full of pop/rock anthems (Supersonic, Live Forever, Some Might Say, Wonderwall, Don't Look Back In Anger, etc) + epic b-sides (Acquiesce, The Masterplan, etc) and you get a lot of reviews saying this album will be even BETTER. You're just waiting for something out of this world, with better tunes than the ones I've cited above. And as much as I love BHN, it's not true. The tunes are not as good for most part. However, I can't understand how you can say that Be Here Now is full of "mediocre songs". It's still one of the best albums of the last 20 years, it's full of melodies, Liam's voice is untouchable. If BHN is mediocre, what are post 90's Oasis albums ?
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Post by sgtpeppr on Jun 7, 2016 6:55:26 GMT -5
i was there then and i liked BHN from the get go...
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Post by Deleted on Jun 7, 2016 9:35:41 GMT -5
Every time I hear this album a small part of me returns to 1997 and the excitement of the time. Nothing will ever take this feeling away from me. Is the album flawed? Sure. Is it amazing? Most definitely!
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Post by themanwithnoname on Jun 7, 2016 10:44:03 GMT -5
Stick Be Here Now on after listening to Definitely Maybe and WTSMG and the difference in song quality, with one or two exceptions, is obvious.
Even the better BHN material (Don't Go Away, DYKWIM, Stand By Me, at a push I Hope, I Think, I Know) doesn't match up to the best bits of the first two albums.
I honestly think you'd have to be insane not to recognise that, but hey, different strokes for different folks I guess.
Oh, and please don't be a twat and slag off people who got into Oasis nearly a quarter of a century and are still here now (see what I did there?).
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Post by mystoryisgory on Jun 7, 2016 23:16:49 GMT -5
BHN will always be my favorite Oasis album, but I can see why people may not like it. The millions of layers upon layers of guitars, and the endlessly long outros are a integral part of the album's identity, and if you can't stand that kind of ridiculous and outrageous bravado, then BHN is not for you. I do have a tendency to prefer the bloated third album in a trilogy to the other two, more acclaimed, and often considered "better" than the final installment (ex: The Great Escape, Pop, X&Y). Guess I just like overblown music.
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Post by Gas Panic on Jun 8, 2016 2:05:33 GMT -5
BHN will always be my favorite Oasis album, but I can see why people may not like it. The millions of layers upon layers of guitars, and the endlessly long outros are a integral part of the album's identity, and if you can't stand that kind of ridiculous and outrageous bravado, then BHN is not for you. I do have a tendency to prefer the bloated third album in a trilogy to the other two, more acclaimed, and often considered "better" than the final installment (ex: The Great Escape, Pop, X&Y). Guess I just like overblown music. For about the last year or so I've listened to and enjoyed bhn far more than the first two albums, but that's mainly because I used to play the first two to death. The first two are definitely far superior albums though and I can see why they are more popular with the general public.
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Post by AdidasNG72 on Jun 8, 2016 2:16:51 GMT -5
BHN is the greatest album of all time, so reading these reviews now amazes me how the critics actually got it right first time round.
This is one album I can play over and over without getting bored of it, unlike DM and WTS. Maybe its down to the overlays, the loud epicness, the feelgood factor and goosebumps at certain moments throughout the album. This is Euro 96/Labour's landslide election era bottled for me, and takes me back to the summer days when I first moved to London.
I Was There Then, and what a time it was!!!
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Post by thomaslivesforever on Jun 8, 2016 7:02:35 GMT -5
I love BHN. At the time I felt it was a let down, young as I was but the older I get the fonder of it I am. Its hugely flawed,Its too long, too loud and too stupid most of the time and yet as an album I actually think it works better than the first two as a unified collection of songs.
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Post by guigsysEstring on Jun 8, 2016 14:24:36 GMT -5
Quick update- cock up with the ebay seller means I have just received Q Sep 1996 not 1997 which has Noel on the cover but only as part of great gigs.....Have reordered Q Sep 1997 and hope to receive it by Monday 13th, sorry to keep all waiting!
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Post by underneaththesky on Jun 8, 2016 15:04:34 GMT -5
no it wasnt. I guess 'fans' like you let them down too. or they were just glad to kick em away with some madness you can't fucking handle... For people who would buy anything with an uncritical eye because it had the name 'Oasis' on it perhaps it wasn't, but as this report from a year on in August 1998 shows even Noel wasn't enamored with his own work- BBC August 1998 By 1999 Melody Maker had an article reporting it was the most sold album to second hand record shops in the UK. As one from that era who was there and by the sound of it globe and themanwithnoname were as well, how exactly did we "let them down" by buying the records, concert tickets, T-shirts and other merchandise? I can't speak for those two chaps but I was working in the business back then and the level of hype for what to me was basically an anthems band like Slade, albeit some brilliant anthems, was ridiculous and nothing they put out was going to live up to the hype. Also the brothers were adamant they wanted to be the biggest band in the world not just the UK at the time, so I very much doubt "they were just glad to kick em away with some madness you can't fucking handle...". There is nothing wrong with liking a record or indeed disliking a record, but you seem to have taken personal offence here with that statement as if you personally wrote BHN or are involved with the band in some way. Oasis carried on for twelve years after Be Here Now but the truth is their peak had already past by September 1996, which isn't a criticism it is the same for many artists where you can see the point in their career at which they peaked and ended or carried on at a different level. don't worry man, it's just rock n roll. I'm a fan since '94, Oasis is the only band I kept on following through the years. I'm fascinated by this band. they never let me down.. not even when they broke up. Heathen Chemistry? it happened... shit happens , you know? but it's just part of the story. it's alright to me. if they let you down, go back to the other albums, who cares. Be Here Now is UP THERE. I loved it back then... and I still do.
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Post by theyknowwhatimean on Jun 9, 2016 7:01:22 GMT -5
Stick Be Here Now on after listening to Definitely Maybe and WTSMG and the difference in song quality, with one or two exceptions, is obvious. Even the better BHN material (Don't Go Away, DYKWIM, Stand By Me, at a push I Hope, I Think, I Know) doesn't match up to the best bits of the first two albums.I honestly think you'd have to be insane not to recognise that, but hey, different strokes for different folks I guess. Oh, and please don't be a twat and slag off people who got into Oasis nearly a quarter of a century and are still here now (see what I did there?). In my opinion, D'You Know What I Mean? is not only the greatest thing Oasis ever put out, but one of the best songs of the entire 1990s. And Stand By Me, Don't Go Away and All Around The World are all examples of classic Oasis, to me, to the level of a Some Might Say or a Rock 'N' Roll Star. But as you say, different strokes for different folks...
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Post by guigsysEstring on Jun 11, 2016 10:28:28 GMT -5
keke underneaththesky theyknowwhatimean davidjay and anyone else who was waiting for the legendary Q review by Paul Du Noyer which appears to have been cleansed from the world wide web Apologies for quality this was taken on a camera phone in a Premier Inn (proper class )
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Post by guigsysEstring on Jun 11, 2016 10:29:54 GMT -5
There is a twelve page special on 18 months inside the band with that issue of Q- I will try and photo it for upload a bit later
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Post by guigsysEstring on Jun 11, 2016 11:37:07 GMT -5
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Post by guigsysEstring on Jun 11, 2016 11:52:04 GMT -5
Right I think that's all the Be Here Now related articles for the moment- hope the Q stuff was worth the wait, and if anyone wants me to redo any of the photos let me know- cheers!
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Post by keke on Jun 11, 2016 11:54:19 GMT -5
Right I think that's all the Be Here Now related articles for the moment- hope the Q stuff was worth the wait, and if anyone wants me to redo any of the photos let me know- cheers! Thanks for taking time and everything you done
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Post by guigsysEstring on Jun 11, 2016 11:57:24 GMT -5
Actually did forget one final photo- The cover to the Be Here Now hype edition of Q from the September 1997 issue.
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Post by underneaththesky on Jun 13, 2016 12:23:58 GMT -5
best band / best album EVER
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Post by mossy on Jun 13, 2016 12:37:15 GMT -5
keke underneaththesky theyknowwhatimean davidjay and anyone else who was waiting for the legendary Q review by Paul Du Noyer which appears to have been cleansed from the world wide web Apologies for quality this was taken on a camera phone in a Premier Inn (proper class ) Thanks.
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Post by AdidasNG72 on Oct 22, 2017 0:21:22 GMT -5
Stick Be Here Now on after listening to Definitely Maybe and WTSMG and the difference in song quality, with one or two exceptions, is obvious. Even the better BHN material (Don't Go Away, DYKWIM, Stand By Me, at a push I Hope, I Think, I Know) doesn't match up to the best bits of the first two albums. I honestly think you'd have to be insane not to recognise that, but hey, different strokes for different folks I guess. Oh, and please don't be a twat and slag off people who got into Oasis nearly a quarter of a century and are still here now (see what I did there?). I honestly think the songs overall are far better on BHN than both DM and MG (with the exception of Some Might Say, Step Out and Round Are Way, which all sound like they belong more on BHN anyway!) Couple that with the unique sound produced on BHN - an epic hurricane monster screaming at the top of its lungs, and its easy to see why BHN is the greatest rock album ever made.
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Post by sgtpeppr on Oct 22, 2017 0:47:29 GMT -5
Stick Be Here Now on after listening to Definitely Maybe and WTSMG and the difference in song quality, with one or two exceptions, is obvious. Even the better BHN material (Don't Go Away, DYKWIM, Stand By Me, at a push I Hope, I Think, I Know) doesn't match up to the best bits of the first two albums. I honestly think you'd have to be insane not to recognise that, but hey, different strokes for different folks I guess. Oh, and please don't be a twat and slag off people who got into Oasis nearly a quarter of a century and are still here now (see what I did there?). I honestly think the songs overall are far better on BHN than both DM and MG (with the exception of Some Might Say, Step Out and Round Are Way, which all sound like they belong more on BHN anyway!) Couple that with the unique sound produced on BHN - an epic hurricane monster screaming at the top of its lungs, and its easy to see why BHN is the greatest rock album ever made. we get it. you like BHN...no need to quote posts that are over a year old.
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Post by AdidasNG72 on Oct 22, 2017 1:08:16 GMT -5
I honestly think the songs overall are far better on BHN than both DM and MG (with the exception of Some Might Say, Step Out and Round Are Way, which all sound like they belong more on BHN anyway!) Couple that with the unique sound produced on BHN - an epic hurricane monster screaming at the top of its lungs, and its easy to see why BHN is the greatest rock album ever made. we get it. you like BHN...no need to quote posts that are over a year old. Why not? This is a forum, ain't it..?
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Post by sgtpeppr on Oct 22, 2017 2:04:25 GMT -5
we get it. you like BHN...no need to quote posts that are over a year old. Why not? This is a forum, ain't it..? yeah, but usually when no-ones posted in a thread for over a year, its considered dead... its not like there arent a dozen new/er threads for you to go on and on about BHN.
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Post by popeyebonaparte on Oct 22, 2017 5:39:32 GMT -5
My all time favourite Oasis album. Cannot understand why people don't like it (particularly Noel) but that's life. An absolute masterpiece, more progressive than MG, more rock than MG. Also LOVE the production, the wall of guitars sound is absolutely brilliant! Not a weak track on it, even The Girl In The Dirty Shirt and It's Getting Better Man grow on you. The Sgt Peppers of the 90s. I cannot express my undying love for this record in stronger terms!
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