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Post by tezza198 on Dec 3, 2021 16:39:29 GMT -5
Liam is my top artist on Deezer with Why Me Why Not my most listened to album and One Of Us and Invisible Sun are my most listened to songs. Sorry Noel. Same. I do like some of Noel's new songs but there's a reason why Liam's selling out Knebworth and stadiums and Noel isn't. It's crazy to think back in 2010-2016 it was the complete opposite. I can't see Noel becoming bigger than Liam again
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Post by mkoasis on Dec 4, 2021 1:48:35 GMT -5
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Post by matt on Dec 4, 2021 7:30:19 GMT -5
Might be an unpopular opinion but I think Alright Now is one of the best songs to come out in the post Oasis era. I absolutely love it. I love it too. Not the usual kind of song he sings, as is a song like What Are You Dreaming Of. But as ever, he pulls it off brilliantly.
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Post by tiger40 on Dec 4, 2021 13:37:55 GMT -5
Liam is my top artist on Deezer with Why Me Why Not my most listened to album and One Of Us and Invisible Sun are my most listened to songs. Sorry Noel. Same. I do like some of Noel's new songs but there's a reason why Liam's selling out Knebworth and stadiums and Noel isn't. It's crazy to think back in 2010-2016 it was the complete opposite. I can't see Noel becoming bigger than Liam again Agreed. I always find myself listening to Liam a lot more than I do Noel. But I do listen to Noel but not all of the time. I can’t see Noel being bigger than Liam again either and I agree that it was the complete opposite back in 2010- 2016. Who would have thought it back then that Liam would make such a big come back?
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Post by themanwholivesinhell on Dec 5, 2021 6:06:18 GMT -5
Same. I do like some of Noel's new songs but there's a reason why Liam's selling out Knebworth and stadiums and Noel isn't. It's crazy to think back in 2010-2016 it was the complete opposite. I can't see Noel becoming bigger than Liam again Agreed. I always find myself listening to Liam a lot more than I do Noel. But I do listen to Noel but not all of the time. I can’t see Noel being bigger than Liam again either and I agree that it was the complete opposite back in 2010- 2016. Who would have thought it back then that Liam would make such a big come back? I’d never have foreseen it when Beady Eye split, but in hindsight it makes sense. After Liam got sole blame for the split in 2009, Beady Eye were doomed as irrelevant from the start due to literally being Oasis without Noel. However enough time had passed by 2017. Plus he came back solo not looking like Oasis without Noel, and seeming more humble in admitting he needed co-writers, unlike saying Beady Eye could be bigger than Oasis. On top of that he’s playing more Oasis songs live than BE did…..all at the same time as Noel got more experimental. So fans saw LG as the closest to Oasis they’d get, and once he got them on his side again there was no looking back.
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Post by tiger40 on Dec 5, 2021 13:42:36 GMT -5
Agreed. I always find myself listening to Liam a lot more than I do Noel. But I do listen to Noel but not all of the time. I can’t see Noel being bigger than Liam again either and I agree that it was the complete opposite back in 2010- 2016. Who would have thought it back then that Liam would make such a big come back? I’d never have foreseen it when Beady Eye split, but in hindsight it makes sense. After Liam got sole blame for the split in 2009, Beady Eye were doomed as irrelevant from the start due to literally being Oasis without Noel. However enough time had passed by 2017. Plus he came back solo not looking like Oasis without Noel, and seeming more humble in admitting he needed co-writers, unlike saying Beady Eye could be bigger than Oasis. On top of that he’s playing more Oasis songs live than BE did…..all at the same time as Noel got more experimental. So fans saw LG as the closest to Oasis they’d get, and once he got them on his side again there was no looking back. Yeah, I agree with you. With Beady Eye (even though I like them) they were never going to be more successful than what Oasis were. But when Liam came back as a solo artist he came back with the right song Wall Of Glass as the first single. And, as you say Noel decided to go experimental and many fans went with Liam at that point.
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Post by tezza198 on Dec 6, 2021 2:27:06 GMT -5
tiger40 and themanwholivesinhell both make good points. In 2017 almost everything went right and his image for the first time in however many years are super positive. That One Love concert really solidified that as well. It was perfect timing. great album and hundred other things. It really has been an incredible come back and he'll continue to get bigger.
My question is, what comes after knebworth?
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Post by girllikeabomb on Dec 6, 2021 3:51:39 GMT -5
My question is, what comes after knebworth? Seems he plans to do a worldwide tour based on his tweets. Would guess USA maybe Fall of 2022 travel restrictions and variants willing. I'd love to see him spend a little more time here and do some real media (not just music slots but actually do some late night talk show interviews and the whole nine yards, do SNL, ha!), but we will take whatever we can get. In the end I still expect it's going to be way better for him to do fewer dates more spread out at this point in time, but the economics of that are tricky so we'll see how it all goes (if it goes, fingers crossed.) Also, what comes next I think will depend a bit on how the album is received. It doesn't have to be a critical hit for him to keep doing exactly what he's doing but if it is one then the calculations can be a bit different.
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Post by GlastoEls on Dec 6, 2021 8:27:39 GMT -5
My question is, what comes after knebworth? That’s an excellent question and something I’ve been pondering also. For the second time, Knebworth is the end of something rather than the beginning. Or is it? Will he simply just press on? Will the kind of teenage 90s bucket hat throwback move on to celebrate 20 years of nu-metal or something? Or will Liam now just be forever a kind of perennial rock legend like, say, The Stones who aren’t affected by fashion? Either way, 2017 to the present has been my second favourite era of Oasis since 94-96 and I’m clinging on firmly!
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Post by tiger40 on Dec 6, 2021 13:52:47 GMT -5
tiger40 and themanwholivesinhell both make good points. In 2017 almost everything went right and his image for the first time in however many years are super positive. That One Love concert really solidified that as well. It was perfect timing. great album and hundred other things. It really has been an incredible come back and he'll continue to get bigger. My question is, what comes after knebworth? That's a very good question. But like Girllikeabomb says Liam will probably do some kind of a world tour as I'm sure that he'll be wanting to promote his new album. I agree with you though that it's been an incredible come back and he'll continue to get bigger. I'm just happy for him to have such a great come back as everybody had written him off I think after Oasis.
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Post by girllikeabomb on Dec 6, 2021 17:09:36 GMT -5
My question is, what comes after knebworth? For the second time, Knebworth is the end of something rather than the beginning. Or is it? Hadn't really thought of it like that, as a full-stop ending of this era. He won't, he loves it and wants it too much, but I suppose he could do Knebworth again and just walk away. Quit on top just like the old fantasy of never fading away.
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Post by tezza198 on Dec 7, 2021 0:53:11 GMT -5
I personally think 80k each night for Liam is underselling knebworth, it should have been at least 100,000 each night but COVID may have made that decision. Knebworth will be the beginning of the main tour I suspect so he'll go around the world after that but what can he do next...who knows at this point - it'll depend on how the album sells etc
Can we all imagine for a second that Liam either A) retired in 2015 and never came back or B) As You Were bombed and he gave it in, I thought B was likely back in 2017 not because AYW sucked but I wasn't sure people wanted Liam. In reality it succeeded all exceptions x10
Side note: Tom Meighan is releasing an album in 2022 as well and it sounds amazing so far. 2022 is going to be a great year.
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Post by welshylad on Dec 7, 2021 3:18:43 GMT -5
For me personally, when I heard he was doing Knebworth I was so excited. But when I heard it wasn't full capacity it lost all it's magic for me. Don't see the point, I'd rather see him do one night with 125,000
That's my personal opinion obviously
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Post by Sadie on Dec 7, 2021 3:50:25 GMT -5
For me personally, when I heard he was doing Knebworth I was so excited. But when I heard it wasn't full capacity it lost all it's magic for me. Don't see the point, I'd rather see him do one night with 125,000 That's my personal opinion obviously I think I heard somewhere that all gigs at Knebworth now have a lower capacity so I'm not sure how much of this is down to Liam's personal choice or anything by his team but yeah it's a shame, it would've been great to see him do 125k
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Post by girllikeabomb on Dec 7, 2021 4:24:37 GMT -5
Er, Isn’t the point mainly to give a new generation a chance to camp out, get excited, go wild for a few hours, see something kind of like Oasis and have stories to tell for the rest of their lives? Does it really make that big a difference if it’s 80,000 or 125,000 when you’re in it? It’s not really about the Guiness Book of World Records is it? Isn't it more about showing he can still put on a grand show for the masses on his own and coming full circle? That seem more interesting than numbers to me, anyway.
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Post by artumlobov on Dec 7, 2021 4:45:19 GMT -5
There is no camping.
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Post by girllikeabomb on Dec 7, 2021 4:56:46 GMT -5
By "camp out" I meant hang out all day outside in one spot -- maybe that's an Americanism -- but I also believe based on reading various things on twitter (and even here) that people are actually camping overnight not on the grounds but nearby as well. In any case, besides the point.
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Post by welshylad on Dec 7, 2021 5:10:58 GMT -5
Er, Isn’t the point mainly to give a new generation a chance to camp out, get excited, go wild for a few hours, see something kind of like Oasis and have stories to tell for the rest of their lives? Does it really make that big a difference if it’s 80,000 or 125,000 when you’re in it? It’s not really about the Guiness Book of World Records is it? Isn't it more about showing he can still put on a grand show for the masses on his own and coming full circle? That seem more interesting than numbers to me, anyway. Agreed, you won't notice when you're in 80k that it's not 125k. But it made the event seem special the fact Liam sold out on his own what Oasis did in '96. That fact the numbers are not the same kinda spoils it. Again, that's my opinion
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Post by artumlobov on Dec 7, 2021 6:27:20 GMT -5
By "camp out" I meant hang out all day outside in one spot -- maybe that's an Americanism -- but I also believe based on reading various things on twitter (and even here) that people are actually camping overnight not on the grounds but nearby as well. In any case, besides the point. Gotcha. In the UK it means to camp. Usually in a tent but sometimes in a vehicle such as a camper van. Just to confirm, there is no official camping for this event.
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Post by GlastoEls on Dec 7, 2021 7:53:27 GMT -5
By "camp out" I meant hang out all day outside in one spot -- maybe that's an Americanism -- but I also believe based on reading various things on twitter (and even here) that people are actually camping overnight not on the grounds but nearby as well. In any case, besides the point. Gotcha. In the UK it means to camp. Usually in a tent but sometimes in a vehicle such as a camper van. Just to confirm, there is no official camping for this event. Yes there is: www.ticketmaster.co.uk/liam-gallagher-tickets/artist/2055477#experience
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Post by artumlobov on Dec 7, 2021 8:14:23 GMT -5
That is an independent using an official retailer.
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Post by norkbauer on Dec 7, 2021 8:57:46 GMT -5
Knebworth will be the beginning of the main tour I suspect so he'll go around the world after that I'd be very happy if he'd come to South America for Rock in Rio in September. He'll play the Portuguese edition in June in the same day of Foo Fighters and The National.
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Post by tiger40 on Dec 7, 2021 13:46:57 GMT -5
I'm just pleased for Liam that he's managed to sell out Knebworth on his own and not in Oasis. It doesn't matter to me how many people will be there. The fact is he's sold it out which is a great thing.
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Post by tiger40 on Dec 7, 2021 13:50:05 GMT -5
And, if Liam and his camp do decide to release one or both of his Knebworth gigs then I hope that they won't sit on them for 25 years like Oasis did.
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Post by vespa on Dec 7, 2021 17:29:30 GMT -5
Not sure it’s official yet at 80,000 is it? Only off a tweet from a ticket company .. And where does he go after knebworth?? Looks like he’s going to release an album or 2 , world tour then I think that’ll be it till the inevitable , it’s all been very busy for Liam for the last 5 years. Noel I also think is coming to the end of his solo career unless he wants to end up down the weller route of smaller venues , steady album sales , they aren’t getting any younger ..
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