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Post by mkoasis on Mar 9, 2016 20:05:23 GMT -5
I'm probably the only one but I would like too see Liam with Gem, Chris and Bonehead playing some acoustic gigs. I've said it before but the 4 of them should join together and play BHN live in its entirety in smaller venues. Maybe start with DM, then MG, then BHN. But that would be incredible.
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Mar 9, 2016 20:25:35 GMT -5
Liam solo would be a fucking disaster. I hope he's planning with Noel on an Oasis reunion.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 9, 2016 20:25:40 GMT -5
I'm probably the only one but I would like too see Liam with Gem, Chris and Bonehead playing some acoustic gigs. I've said it before but the 4 of them should join together and play BHN live in its entirety in smaller venues. Maybe start with DM, then MG, then BHN. But that would be incredible. that would be epic but i think liam would really struggle with many of those songs now, especially songs like some might say, d'you know what i mean, and i hope i think i know and she's electric (hell he never attempted the latter two live back in the 90's when those albums were first released). and who would sing all of noel's songs? no chance.
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Mar 9, 2016 20:31:31 GMT -5
I'm probably the only one but I would like too see Liam with Gem, Chris and Bonehead playing some acoustic gigs. I've said it before but the 4 of them should join together and play BHN live in its entirety in smaller venues. Maybe start with DM, then MG, then BHN. But that would be incredible. But who would sing Magic Pie? Noel.
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Post by guigsysEstring on Mar 9, 2016 21:28:42 GMT -5
Liam solo would be a fucking disaster. I hope he's planning with Noel on an Oasis reunion. I still contend it would depend on a few things, chief point being how is his most recognisable contribution i.e. the voice? If that is gone beyond recovery then Oasis or solo it's going to be pretty disastrous for any live performance. I take the point though that if he can sing reasonably well at least then as long as he is in shape to do gigs a reunion tour isn't necessarily out of the question. I've posted on it before but the complications for a reunion are going to come in the smaller details such as by 'Oasis', do we mean:- A) Liam & Noel plus hired hands? - Certainly the best option for keeping as much of the take as possible. B) A classic lineup?- Given the unlikely appearance of Messrs McCarroll, White and possibly even McGuigan this could well be at best The Gallaghers plus Bonehead, fine for die hard fans but really worth the brothers splitting a pay day for the general masses? C) A reunion of post 2000 members or a new line up?- Fine if the band are making a full comeback including a new record with songwriting contributions from other members, which hasn't been that successful in the past, and if it isn;t going to be that again where is the incentive? Also you start getting into details such as is it co-managed or does someone (probably Liam's) representative get stiffed in the deal? I can't see him agreeing to cut out his other half at this moment, and it is an open question whether or not Noel would agree to joint managers for a reunion tour or more. The take is also another question, as music publishing aside during the glory years Noel was the highest earner in the partnership, reputedly taking 40% plus songwriting income- will Liam agree to this again or would Noel concede to a more equal share for his brother? A Liam solo project throws up it's own questions, but at least in the case of management and as long as the voice is working, that's taken care of two big issues. If he has enough songs he really needs a professional sessions band and a forward producer who will be able to flesh out his ideas without retreating into the shadows. If he hasn't got enough new material then he may need to look at a new band with co-writers or even outside writers, although whether that's a step he would be willing to take is again another matter. It goes back as usual to either Liam (solo) or both brothers (reunion) having the desire and/or need to make it happen, and along with their representatives making sure whatever they decide upon goes ahead.
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Post by gdforever on Mar 10, 2016 0:58:35 GMT -5
Liam solo would be a fucking disaster. I hope he's planning with Noel on an Oasis reunion. I still contend it would depend on a few things, chief point being how is his most recognisable contribution i.e. the voice? If that is gone beyond recovery then Oasis or solo it's going to be pretty disastrous for any live performance. I take the point though that if he can sing reasonably well at least then as long as he is in shape to do gigs a reunion tour isn't necessarily out of the question. I've posted on it before but the complications for a reunion are going to come in the smaller details such as by 'Oasis', do we mean:- A) Liam & Noel plus hired hands? - Certainly the best option for keeping as much of the take as possible. B) A classic lineup?- Given the unlikely appearance of Messrs McCarroll, White and possibly even McGuigan this could well be at best The Gallaghers plus Bonehead, fine for die hard fans but really worth the brothers splitting a pay day for the general masses? C) A reunion of post 2000 members or a new line up?- Fine if the band are making a full comeback including a new record with songwriting contributions from other members, which hasn't been that successful in the past, and if it isn;t going to be that again where is the incentive? Also you start getting into details such as is it co-managed or does someone (probably Liam's) representative get stiffed in the deal? I can't see him agreeing to cut out his other half at this moment, and it is an open question whether or not Noel would agree to joint managers for a reunion tour or more. The take is also another question, as music publishing aside during the glory years Noel was the highest earner in the partnership, reputedly taking 40% plus songwriting income- will Liam agree to this again or would Noel concede to a more equal share for his brother? A Liam solo project throws up it's own questions, but at least in the case of management and as long as the voice is working, that's taken care of two big issues. If he has enough songs he really needs a professional sessions band and a forward producer who will be able to flesh out his ideas without retreating into the shadows. If he hasn't got enough new material then he may need to look at a new band with co-writers or even outside writers, although whether that's a step he would be willing to take is again another matter. It goes back as usual to either Liam (solo) or both brothers (reunion) having the desire and/or need to make it happen, and along with their representatives making sure whatever they decide upon goes ahead. I think most of the first few reasons are moot points. There will never be the WTSMG lineup, doesn't matter what the fans want. It would be as close to 2009 lineup as they could get it likely maybe with Bonehead showing up for a few of the classic tunes. There is enough drama between the Gallagher's without adding in someone like Tony or White, and Guigs isn't stepping on stage because he's not interested in that life. And if they can't get someone they can just get a hired gun. Anyone that cares that much about whether or not Guigs is there would probably go see the band regardless of the lineup. It'll be Oasis for the lions share of the world if they can get Liam and Noel on the stage playing Oasis songs. As for what would the incentive be? Money. They all made tons of money from a tour. I think everyone, except maybe Noel but probably not, made more money off the tours than albums. Another windfall like that would certainly be worth it to any non-Gallagher. Their earning potential outside of Oasis vs in is night and day. They don't have clothing lines or #1 albums. Having two separate managers wouldn't matter. There is no reason they need to have the same manager. Both managers would get their standard percentage of each brothers deal. And the tour manager is different from the manager that represents their career. So they would just have to find a tour manager that they could both agree on. Perhaps someone unrelated to either camp. The only barrier truly is the desire of Noel and Liam to do this. If they decided to do this putting it together would be easy. I think Liam doing this is more likely than him doing a solo album at this point. I have a hard time seeing Noel agreeing to a reunion for at least 1 albums cycle. He's still making money off his albums and tours with no compromises or drama
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Post by Mr. Bigglesworth on Mar 10, 2016 1:17:55 GMT -5
I'm probably the only one but I would like too see Liam with Gem, Chris and Bonehead playing some acoustic gigs. I've said it before but the 4 of them should join together and play BHN live in its entirety in smaller venues. Maybe start with DM, then MG, then BHN. But that would be incredible. That would be just wrong. He should do something on his own and this? An oasis coverband? No liam has more to offer.
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Post by morning_rain on Mar 10, 2016 3:42:28 GMT -5
Let's consider the source for a second: a fan comment on instagram maybe it's true, or maybe Liam said it as a joke. I wouldn't make a big deal out of this This. And even if it's true everything could change a couple of months from now with a phonecall from the right producer/musician/brother.
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Post by theyknowwhatimean on Mar 10, 2016 20:35:03 GMT -5
I think as Liam not doing anything at the moment it probably is the same person (I.e his girlfriend Debbie) but yes you are right Noel for instance his manager and press representative would be different people. Thanks. hmmmmm, manager, that word hasn't a clear definition... This is confusion, I am confusing myselfWait. Was that an Oasis related pun??
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Post by theyknowwhatimean on Mar 10, 2016 20:36:53 GMT -5
Paul G. is still not a fan of the tabloids, funnily enough. Is that theyknowwhatimean Twitter handle? Yeah, totally. Just took out a subscription with Private Eye magazine an' all, so, should I continue to post on here as often as I do at the moment, expect more ranting and raving about the tabloids from me for the considerable future...
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Post by guigsysEstring on Mar 10, 2016 21:44:32 GMT -5
Yeah, totally. Just took out a subscription with Private Eye magazine an' all, so, should I continue to post on here as often as I do at the moment, expect more ranting and raving about the tabloids from me for the considerable future... Breaking News:- theyknowwhatimean and Beady’s Here Now to be new panel show captains? (P.S. rant on good sir)
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Post by You're My van der Waal on Mar 16, 2016 23:52:21 GMT -5
I wonder if people still think "album sales don't matter". BE wasn't critically panned but poor sales completely ruined Beady Eye and seems to have destroyed Liam's confidence and pride. Clearly, album sales matter a lot to him.
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Post by underneaththesky on Mar 9, 2017 20:05:20 GMT -5
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Post by plaskins1 on Mar 9, 2017 20:09:54 GMT -5
I use spotify, I was amazed at the amount of plays Coldplay have had. I was like OMG. Lots of people like shit music
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Post by aky on Mar 9, 2017 21:52:55 GMT -5
I use spotify, I was amazed at the amount of plays Coldplay have had. I was like OMG. Lots of people like shit music Because its so easy listening. Not much going on within the music, and thats why the masses lap it up. You could say the same for most pop out right now. For anyone who really understands and enjoys great music, its very frustrating to see. people like Ed Sheeran etc....listen to the songs, its just a fucking guitar and his voice with a shit melody, but it resonates because its so fucking easy to listen too, doesnt make you have to sit back and notice little details or melodies within the music. I always compare it to shows like hollyoaks or most reality shows...actually a lot TV now thinking about it. Again, really easy watching, not much to follow, and the masses lap it up, just a different format. This is what people mean when they say society is brainwashed etc...just a whole load of simple minds bobbing along the stream of life who grab and take the most minimal things in order to subliminally convince themselves that they are happy.
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Post by GlastoEls on Mar 10, 2017 8:07:21 GMT -5
^
But that's exactly what Oasis were.
Music for the masses. It might have come from an authentic place - a couple of lads from Burnage - but let's not pretend Oasis were alternative or challenging in any way.
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Post by aky on Mar 10, 2017 10:47:07 GMT -5
^ But that's exactly what Oasis were. Music for the masses. It might have come from an authentic place - a couple of lads from Burnage - but let's not pretend Oasis were alternative or challenging in any way. I'm not talking about music being "alternative" and all that shit. Im talking about the difference between good music and bad music. And fuck all the "oh its a matter of opinion" shit because anyone who knows about music can tell a good song from a bad song. Oasis were both, they did HAVE good music and it didnt need to be challenging in any way. The masses lapped up oasis not just for the music, half of it was the image. If they didnt blow up and carried on playing pubs for the rest of their years, anyone who heard the songs would STILL rate them the same way they do today. Thats the reason they DID end up becoming music for the masses, because the songs were already there, it was inevitable. But it didn't start that way, and thats the difference. If were talking post-98 though, thats a whole different story.
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