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Post by guigsysEstring on Feb 27, 2016 14:19:56 GMT -5
Morning Glory, obviously... Until I went to the States in the mid nineties I genuinely had no idea what the phrase meant to Americans- A kindly US colleague pointed it out after doing a double take of the album title I had on me at the time
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Post by Flatulence Panic on Feb 27, 2016 15:01:51 GMT -5
See The Sun is great though. Should be re-recorded to be honest. I had to look up what a "porter" is to be honest guigsysEstring . I'm guessing that is more of an American term. No I am British and my late father had the job title 'porter' in the 1970s when he worked that sort of role in a hospital. I agree with you though that See The Sun could have made for a great song, perhaps as a gem of a B-side in the 'Definitely Maybe' era. Ah, yes I've heard the term in relation to hospitals. Forgot about it being used in that context... for some reason my mind jumped to a job in a hotel being called a 'porter', e.g. someone to carry your bags which you only tend to see in the US. Yeah would have liked to see it recorded in that era, although Owen Morris's brick wall mastering wouldn't have been helpful. I've been listening a lot to Stanley Road recently, there is a great example of a britpop (if you want to call it that)/mod/rock n' roll album that sounds great. Rock n Roll does not need to be compressed to death, it just loses about half it's potency as far as I'm concerned. Then again I'm probably not the best person to speak too about sound quality... Steely Dan's AJA is quoted a lot in audiophile communities for it's sound quality... I've heard it and I can't say I was impressed. Then again I'm not a huge fan of S.D. like I suppose some people are (mainly Americans it has to be said). From a personal point of view the best sounding piece of music on any format I have has to be the 1979 Harvest release of Pink Floyd's "The Wall" (The code is SHDW 411 for any record nerds). The A-side of the first disc is unbelievably good, even on my pretty poor turntable. Going to buy myself a quality setup one day to really enjoy it. It's the only record I've got that has close to no surface noise (but only on that A-side for some reason). The sonics are incredible (to my ear anyway).
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Post by theyknowwhatimean on Feb 27, 2016 15:03:48 GMT -5
Who was the companion around that time? Liz Shaw? Pertwee, you old dog. It was indeed Liz Shaw, played by the lovely Caroline John (that makes her sound like a stage magician's assistant or something...). She was great in the role, although only stayed for one series (leaving in the fan-favourite Inferno, 1970). Unusual at the time in that she was playing a scientist character who could talk to the Doctor on his level, similar to Dana Scully in some ways. Apparently this caused some problems for the script writers at the time, because this meant she couldn't ask so many "what's going on Doctor?"-type questions that a lot of the previous companions had. You know you're British when you think, 'well sure she was lovely, but I bet she was bloody freezing dressed like that...' Still though, she was no Rose Tyler, was she? I must have been 9 years old when the episode 'New Earth' aired (the one with New New York and the cat-people nurses), and can still recall the bit where the 'spirit' (or other such Doctor Who isms) of Zoë Wanamaker's Cassandra invades Rose, making her rip her shirt open as if she were an extra in a Carry On film, and generally act all saucy -- safe to say, it positively warped my fragile little mind.
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Post by Flatulence Panic on Feb 27, 2016 15:04:26 GMT -5
Morning Glory, obviously... That awkward moment when you have to cross the landing with a stiffy. Well... what's the story morning glory!! Need a little time to wake up, Wake up!!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 27, 2016 15:11:42 GMT -5
Fuckin' In The Bushes...
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Post by Flatulence Panic on Feb 27, 2016 15:23:46 GMT -5
How does it feel when you're inside me? I always wondered if Noel wrote that knowing how awkward it would be for Liam having to sing that lyric... Would not surprise me in the slightest if that were true.
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Post by guigsysEstring on Feb 27, 2016 15:35:19 GMT -5
No I am British and my late father had the job title 'porter' in the 1970s when he worked that sort of role in a hospital. I agree with you though that See The Sun could have made for a great song, perhaps as a gem of a B-side in the 'Definitely Maybe' era. Ah, yes I've heard the term in relation to hospitals. Forgot about it being used in that context... for some reason my mind jumped to a job in a hotel being called a 'porter', e.g. someone to carry your bags which you only tend to see in the US. Yeah would have liked to see it recorded in that era, although Owen Morris's brick wall mastering wouldn't have been helpful. I've been listening a lot to Stanley Road recently, there is a great example of a britpop (if you want to call it that)/mod/rock n' roll album that sounds great. Rock n Roll does not need to be compressed to death, it just loses about half it's potency as far as I'm concerned. Then again I'm probably not the best person to speak too about sound quality... Steely Dan's AJA is quoted a lot in audiophile communities for it's sound quality... I've heard and I can't say I wasn't impressed. Then again I'm not a huge fan of S.D. like I suppose some people are (mainly Americans it has to be said). From a personal point of view the best sounding piece of music on any format I have has to be the 1979 Harvest release of Pink Floyd's "The Wall" (The code is SHDW 411 for any record nerds). The A-side of the first disc is unbelievably good, even on my pretty poor turntable. Going to buy myself a quality setup one day to really enjoy it. It's the only record I've got that has close to no surface noise (but only on that A-side for some reason). The sonics are incredible (to my ear anyway). In reference to Pink Floyd it's a shame Noel didn't get his hands on the EMI TG12345 MkIII console that was used to record The Dark Side of the Moon until the SOTSOG era, which is when he briefly developed an interest in recording techniques with Mark 'Spike' Stent. That console is famed for the "warm" sound of the Pink Floyd record, and looks like this one which itselfis used by Coral Studios in New York Another Link between Noel Gallagher, Lee Mavers and Pink Floyd
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Post by Flatulence Panic on Feb 27, 2016 15:38:02 GMT -5
Ah, yes I've heard the term in relation to hospitals. Forgot about it being used in that context... for some reason my mind jumped to a job in a hotel being called a 'porter', e.g. someone to carry your bags which you only tend to see in the US. Yeah would have liked to see it recorded in that era, although Owen Morris's brick wall mastering wouldn't have been helpful. I've been listening a lot to Stanley Road recently, there is a great example of a britpop (if you want to call it that)/mod/rock n' roll album that sounds great. Rock n Roll does not need to be compressed to death, it just loses about half it's potency as far as I'm concerned. Then again I'm probably not the best person to speak too about sound quality... Steely Dan's AJA is quoted a lot in audiophile communities for it's sound quality... I've heard and I can't say I wasn't impressed. Then again I'm not a huge fan of S.D. like I suppose some people are (mainly Americans it has to be said). From a personal point of view the best sounding piece of music on any format I have has to be the 1979 Harvest release of Pink Floyd's "The Wall" (The code is SHDW 411 for any record nerds). The A-side of the first disc is unbelievably good, even on my pretty poor turntable. Going to buy myself a quality setup one day to really enjoy it. It's the only record I've got that has close to no surface noise (but only on that A-side for some reason). The sonics are incredible (to my ear anyway). In reference to Pink Floyd it's a shame Noel didn't get his hands on the EMI TG12345 MkIII console that was used to record The Dark Side of the Moon until the SOTSOG era, which is when he briefly developed an interest in recording techniques with Mark 'Spije' Stent. That console is famed for the "warm" sound of the Pink Floyd record, and looks like this one which itslef is used by Coral Studios in New York Another Link between Noel Gallagher, Lee Mavers and Pink Floyd So was this used for SOTSOG? I've never heard SOTSOG on vinyl but the dynamics of the CD aren't great. Not BHN levels of compression but not exactly to the production levels of Floyd either. Nice to know that Mavers used that desk didn't know that cheers.
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Post by guigsysEstring on Feb 27, 2016 15:49:26 GMT -5
In reference to Pink Floyd it's a shame Noel didn't get his hands on the EMI TG12345 MkIII console that was used to record The Dark Side of the Moon until the SOTSOG era, which is when he briefly developed an interest in recording techniques with Mark 'Spije' Stent. That console is famed for the "warm" sound of the Pink Floyd record, and looks like this one which itslef is used by Coral Studios in New York Another Link between Noel Gallagher, Lee Mavers and Pink Floyd So was this used for SOTSOG? I've never heard SOTSOG on vinyl but the dynamics of the CD aren't great. Not BHN levels of compression but not exactly to the production levels of Floyd either. Nice to know that Mavers used that desk didn't know that cheers. Mavers was supposed to have used it when they couldn't source the MKII or earlier 1960s version he wanted, although the desks he used included one that had to have a vacuum cleaner running in reverse to blow cold air and keep the circuits, etc. cool! The Pink Floyd desk owned by Noel was installed at Wheeler End during their time there, although whether it was used when Noel, Spike, Jan Kybert and Paul Stacey, etc. reconvened after the aborted Chateau de la Colle Noire sessions I don't know but he did mention in an interview with Clark Amps that he had switched to older gear for recording- Clark Amps Again he doesn't specifically mention that console. davidjay I just realised that Clarks piece is reprinted on the recording info website- I don't suppose you can confirm if that console was used in those sessions or not?
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Post by davidjay on Feb 27, 2016 16:58:46 GMT -5
So was this used for SOTSOG? I've never heard SOTSOG on vinyl but the dynamics of the CD aren't great. Not BHN levels of compression but not exactly to the production levels of Floyd either. Nice to know that Mavers used that desk didn't know that cheers. Mavers was supposed to have used it when they couldn't source the MKII or earlier 1960s version he wanted, although the desks he used included one that had to have a vacuum cleaner running in reverse to blow cold air and keep the circuits, etc. cool! The Pink Floyd desk owned by Noel was installed at Wheeler End during their time there, although whether it was used when Noel, Spike, Jan Kybert and Paul Stacey, etc. reconvened after the aborted Chateau de la Colle Noire sessions I don't know but he did mention in an interview with Clark Amps that he had switched to older gear for recording- Clark Amps Again he doesn't specifically mention that console. davidjay I just realised that Clarks piece is reprinted on the recording info website- I don't suppose you can confirm if that console was used in those sessions or not? Yes, it was used in the tracking session but not for for the mix down. My thanks for Brian Gibson for confirming this. I wrote to Brian via Gearslutz back in 2012 and he kindly shared the following info about the recording setup. I never actually got round to putting this on the site unfortunately; I'll try and sort something out soon. Anyway, would like to interview Spike Stent and Jan Kybert for the site at some point too. Probably a long way off though. Anyway, hope this is of interest. (Quoted from private correspondence with the author, 2012) (Quoted from private correspondence with the author, 2012) I remember that Noel said in a guitar interview (c. 2000) words to the effect of "we recorded it on the old EMI console with the aircraft faders, which sounded great... but you can't really mix on it. So Spike mixed it on his modern console, which gave it a good blend of old and new." (For the life of me I can't find that mag now - but the quote was vaguely on those lines). One other thing I recall is that a similar EMI console was used to record Beady Eye's BE album. EDIT: Think these were posted by either Beady Eye or Dave Sitek on social media during the recording sessions for BE.
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Post by Flatulence Panic on Feb 27, 2016 17:23:01 GMT -5
Mavers was supposed to have used it when they couldn't source the MKII or earlier 1960s version he wanted, although the desks he used included one that had to have a vacuum cleaner running in reverse to blow cold air and keep the circuits, etc. cool! The Pink Floyd desk owned by Noel was installed at Wheeler End during their time there, although whether it was used when Noel, Spike, Jan Kybert and Paul Stacey, etc. reconvened after the aborted Chateau de la Colle Noire sessions I don't know but he did mention in an interview with Clark Amps that he had switched to older gear for recording- Clark Amps Again he doesn't specifically mention that console. davidjay I just realised that Clarks piece is reprinted on the recording info website- I don't suppose you can confirm if that console was used in those sessions or not? Yes, it was used in the tracking session but not for for the mix down. My thanks for Brian Gibson for confirming this. I wrote to Brian via Gearslutz back in 2012 and he kindly shared the following info about the recording setup. I never actually got round to putting this on the site unfortunately; I'll try and sort something out soon. Anyway, would like to interview Spike Stent and Jan Kybert for the site at some point too. Probably a long way off though. Anyway, hope this is of interest. (Quoted from private correspondence with the author, 2012) (Quoted from private correspondence with the author, 2012) I remember that Noel said in a guitar interview (c. 2000) words to the effect of "we recorded it on the old EMI console with the aircraft faders, which sounded great... but you can't really mix on it. So Spike mixed it on his modern console, which gave it a good blend of old and new." (For the life of me I can't find that mag now - but the quote was vaguely on those lines). One other thing I recall is that a similar EMI console was used to record Beady Eye's BE album. davidjay strikes again! The font of all Oasis/Gallagher knowledge.
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Post by guigsysEstring on Feb 27, 2016 18:53:38 GMT -5
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Post by Jessica on Feb 27, 2016 20:08:52 GMT -5
Noel said The Girl With X-Ray Eyes was about a one night stand in one of those videos where he's going through all the songs on Chasing Yesterday. Still think Beady’s Here Now's theory about Lock All the Doors is extreme, he's just daydreaming about the girl.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 22, 2016 19:23:41 GMT -5
Go Let It Out, Go Let It In, Go Let It Out
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Post by Noel's Nose on Mar 22, 2016 21:20:10 GMT -5
Go Let It Out, Go Let It In, Go Let It Out some mins later... go let it out, don't let it in, go let it out, don't let it in, don't let it in, don't let it in!
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Post by guigsysEstring on Mar 23, 2016 4:05:08 GMT -5
davidjay don't know if you have seen this 2012 music radar Interview with Dave Sardy where he talks about recording the first NGHFB LP? One part I found interesting based on the above discussions was they also used in Sardy's words a 'Mint condition TG console' with modern gears, so it seems he and Noel are both fans of that equipment.
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Post by davidjay on Jun 30, 2016 16:45:56 GMT -5
guigsysEstring and Flatulence Panic I found that article with info on the Standing on the Shoulder of Giants sessions I was looking for earlier. It was in issue 69 of Total Guitar, published May 2000. (Total Guitar, May 2000, p. 21) On p. 23-24 Noel talks about having bought much of the equipment used to record the album, including the EMI Mark 2 desk used in the tracking sessions. (Total Guitar, May 2000, pp. 23-4).
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Jul 1, 2016 17:34:30 GMT -5
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Post by guigsysEstring on Jul 2, 2016 10:33:43 GMT -5
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Post by sgtpeppr on Jul 2, 2016 11:02:22 GMT -5
Morning Glory, obviously... huh?! i assume youre joking...?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 2, 2016 11:40:30 GMT -5
Bang Bang Feat. Ariana Grande & Nicki Minaj, oh wait, other forum....
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Post by revol on Jul 2, 2016 12:00:10 GMT -5
"We tie our balls in one big knob."
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Post by The Crimson Rambler on Jul 2, 2016 13:14:38 GMT -5
Morning Glory, obviously... huh?! i assume youre joking...? Ho ho ho... I'm afraid not little one. I was wondering when this day would come. I guess you're old enough to know now... Ever woken up a little more excited than you expected? Hmm. Mmmhmm. I thought so. Well that son is what us grownups sometimes like to call a 'Morning Glory'. Don't worry though, it's nothing to be scared of. Your body can be a confusing thing at times and even the more experienced of us wake up wondering 'what's the story' there then? Ho ho ho. Whatever the reason is it's perfectly natural. You just 'need a little time to wake up". To lie back and 'rest your mind'. And if that isn't doing the trick then... 'I guess you might as well'... But just remember who cleans your room! Now give me a shout when you're 18 and maybe I'll tell you what a Magic Pie is. Just don't tell mum.
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Post by sgtpeppr on Jul 2, 2016 13:32:51 GMT -5
huh?! i assume youre joking...? Ho ho ho... I'm afraid not little one. I was wondering when this day would come. I guess you're old enough to know now... Ever woken up a little more excited than you expected? Hmm. Mmmhmm. I thought so. Well that son is what us grownups sometimes like to call a 'Morning Glory'. Don't worry though, it's nothing to be scared of. Your body can be a confusing thing at times and even the more experienced of us wake up wondering 'what's the story' there then? Ho ho ho. Whatever the reason is it's perfectly natural. You just 'need a little time to wake up". To lie back and 'rest your mind'. And if that isn't doing the trick then... 'I guess you might as well'... But just remember who cleans your room! Now give me a shout when you're 18 and maybe I'll tell you what a Magic Pie is. Just don't tell mum. man, are you doss. everyone knows it can mean that. youre not enlightening anyone. the joke was (or wouldve been) you taking the songs obvious meaning and replacing it with the sexual definition. its about drugs and addiction. cocaine/amphetamines mainly... and chances are im older than you.
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Post by The Crimson Rambler on Jul 2, 2016 14:07:46 GMT -5
Ho ho ho... I'm afraid not little one. I was wondering when this day would come. I guess you're old enough to know now... Ever woken up a little more excited than you expected? Hmm. Mmmhmm. I thought so. Well that son is what us grownups sometimes like to call a 'Morning Glory'. Don't worry though, it's nothing to be scared of. Your body can be a confusing thing at times and even the more experienced of us wake up wondering 'what's the story' there then? Ho ho ho. Whatever the reason is it's perfectly natural. You just 'need a little time to wake up". To lie back and 'rest your mind'. And if that isn't doing the trick then... 'I guess you might as well'... But just remember who cleans your room! Now give me a shout when you're 18 and maybe I'll tell you what a Magic Pie is. Just don't tell mum. man, are you doss. everyone knows it can mean that. youre not enlightening anyone. the joke was (or wouldve been) you taking the songs obvious meaning and replacing it with the sexual definition. its about drugs and addiction. cocaine/amphetamines mainly... and chances are im older than you. Alright big boy. Lighten up. Next time I'll write 'joke' in big capital letters for you. You know, below the 4 paragraphs of innuendo and me pretending to be your dad.
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