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Post by Day Tripper on Aug 2, 2021 4:30:05 GMT -5
Thats something that varies from band to band. There are bands like Red Hot Chili Peppers, that split everything 4 ways to their band members no matter who comes up with the riff or song idea. Metallica is a band that James comes up with an idea and then Lars arrenges the idea in a way that ends up being a song. At times other members come up with parts and they end as songwriters but it's mainly those two who get the songwriting checks. Would be interesting for someone to study if bands that have an equitable split last longer on average than bands that don't ... I know Spacemen 3 split up because they started trying to own songwriting credits and in the end their last album, which was released after they had broken up, was side 1 all Kember's work and side 2 all Pierce's. Basically Recurring is both the earliest Spiritualized and earliest Sonic Boom album in one package.
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Post by mkoasis on Aug 2, 2021 14:44:15 GMT -5
I would disagree. I’d never say UH is poor and I don’t think I’ve ever heard any Verve fan say that. But the songs are fundamentally of a different kind from the early EPs and ASIH to the more singer-songwriter tracks we see on UH. I don’t love one or other more, both are valued equally, just differently. Sometimes you feel like “She’s a Superstar” is their greatest song, other times “Lucky man”. But it’s all The Verve to me. There's many ASIH purists I've seen on other forums that loathe UH and even heavily criticize ANH because of the more straightforward rock it has on it. On the Ashcroft forum it's the opposite. Interesting to see the dynamic between the two types of Verve fans. I did not know this! But, given human nature, I’m not surprised to hear it. Verve fans are human too, after all.
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Post by Elie De Beaufour on Aug 3, 2021 17:18:56 GMT -5
Favourite 'comeback' album?
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Post by Gas Panic on Aug 4, 2021 5:33:00 GMT -5
Favourite 'comeback' album? Chinese Democracy. Probably a very unpopular opinion!
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Post by glider on Aug 4, 2021 11:52:39 GMT -5
Favourite 'comeback' album? Slowdive
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Post by mimmihopps on Aug 4, 2021 12:09:51 GMT -5
Favourite 'comeback' album? Slowdive Can't agree more. The album is a jewel.
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Post by heathenchemist01 on Aug 4, 2021 15:26:40 GMT -5
Unpopular opinion, but I've recently rediscovered my love for Green Day or at least some particular eras in their career.
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Post by andymorris on Aug 5, 2021 1:55:28 GMT -5
Some Time In New York City (Disc 1) is vastly underrated. One of the best in Lennon solo collection. And Yoko has moments too !
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Post by World71R on Aug 5, 2021 19:01:10 GMT -5
Can't agree more. The album is a jewel. So good. It has some genre-defining and artist-defining songs on there (e.g., Star Roving, Everyone Knows, Sugar for the pill).
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Post by Elie De Beaufour on Aug 6, 2021 1:11:51 GMT -5
Don't know if new Guns and Roses is trying to be Limp Bizkit or they don't know too many F bombs ruin the song for me.
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Post by mkoasis on Aug 7, 2021 1:30:08 GMT -5
Rediscovered this Jam song the other day. It’s the b-side to Eton Rifles and sounds amazing played back to back.
Setting Sons is my favourite Jam album. I only wish they’d left Heatwave off, put Wasteland as the final song instead, and put When You’re Young in at track 5. I also prefer the b-side version of Smithers Jones to the album one. This album is heavy on the theme of growing up and disillusionment, which ties together many of its stellar songs. It’s a tremendous achievement for any songwriter and band, let alone one as young as Weller was when he wrote and made this with Rick and Bruce.
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Post by girllikeabomb on Aug 7, 2021 3:34:20 GMT -5
Setting Sons is my favourite Jam album. I only wish they’d left Heatwave off, put Wasteland as the final song instead, and put When You’re Young in at track 5. I also prefer the b-side version of Smithers Jones to the album one. This album is heavy on the theme of growing up and disillusionment, which ties together many of its stellar songs. It’s a tremendous achievement for any songwriter and band, let alone one as young as Weller was when he wrote and made this with Rick and Bruce. Well said on “Setting Sons.” It’s underrated, even by Weller himself. Ridiculously great lyrics—poetic, cinematic, and so rightfully furious -- from a 21-year-old. Unpopular opinion but I never minded Heatwave ending it – something about the ferocious take on a Motown love song fit to me with the album's story of youthful disillusionment. The funny part is that to this day Weller still plays Heatwave live ... and it still seems to get him going ...
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Post by mimmihopps on Aug 7, 2021 6:41:01 GMT -5
Rediscovered this Jam song the other day. It’s the b-side to Eton Rifles and sounds amazing played back to back. Setting Sons is my favourite Jam album. I only wish they’d left Heatwave off, put Wasteland as the final song instead, and put When You’re Young in at track 5. I also prefer the b-side version of Smithers Jones to the album one. This album is heavy on the theme of growing up and disillusionment, which ties together many of its stellar songs. It’s a tremendous achievement for any songwriter and band, let alone one as young as Weller was when he wrote and made this with Rick and Bruce. Setting Sons is my all time favourite album by The Jam too! and the first album of theirs I bought. Still loving the entire album from first track to the last one. I loved Girl on the Phone as soon as I heard it for the first time. Loved the line "She knows me so well better than anyone, better than myself". I remember Burning Sky was the first track of side B of the record (now track 6 on the CD). I like both version of Smithers-Jones, album version with strings on and the single version is more "lighter". Loved Heatwave. They covered some famour Motown songs in their early days - Heatwave, Back in My Arms Again (only live) and In The Midnigh Hour. Ages later I bought the deluxe CD with bonus tracks including Sea-Saw and their cover of The Who's So Sad About Us. Sea-Saw is a lovely song, yet underrated, same as The Dreams of Children. Weller still plays The Eton Rifles live these days. In October 2018 he played Private Hell during his acoustic gigs. I lost my word. The song had a new arrangement with heavy bass intro by Andy Croft, but the original "feeling" was still there. Think I'm gonna listen to the entire album today.
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Post by Elie De Beaufour on Aug 7, 2021 9:36:08 GMT -5
Just rediscovered Blind Guardian doing Dio's Don't talk to strangers again. The only Dio cover better than the original for me.
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Post by The Escapist on Aug 15, 2021 10:12:39 GMT -5
MOST UNDER-RATED SONGS FROM MY TOP TEN ARTISTS: Oasis: Underneath the Sky Coldplay: Chinese Sleep Chant Kanye West: Everything I Am Radiohead: Give Up the Ghost Bon Iver: 666t Bob Dylan: Series of Dreams The Beatles: Good Night Lana Del Rey: Old Money Arcade Fire: Peter Pan MF DOOM: Rap Ambush MY TOP FIVE ARTISTS RANKED: OASIS:1. Be Here Now 2. Definitely Maybe 3. (What's the Story) Morning Glory? 4. Standing on the Shoulders of Giants 5. Dig Out Your Soul 6. Heathen Chemistry 7. Don't Believe the Truth COLDPLAY:1. Viva la Vida or Death and All His Friends 2. Ghost Stories 3. Mylo Xyloto 4. A Rush of Blood to the Head 5. Everyday Life 6. Parachutes 7. X&Y 8. A Head Full of Dreams KANYE WEST:1. The Life of Pablo 2. Yeezus 3. My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy 4. 808s & Heartbreak 5. Late Registration 6. Ye 7. Kids See Ghosts 8. Graduation 9. The College Dropout 10. Watch the Throne 11. Jesus is King RADIOHEAD1. A Moon-Shaped Pool 2. Amnesiac 3. The King of Limbs 4. Kid A 5. In Rainbows 6. OK Computer 7. Hail to the Thief 8. The Bends 9. Pablo Honey THE BEATLES
1. Abbey Road 2. Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band 3. Revolver 4. Rubber Soul 5. The White Album 6. Magical Mystery Tour 7. Help! 8. A Hard Day's Night 9. Let it Be 10. Please Please Me 11. With the Beatles 12. Beatles for Sale Obviously these are just personal enjoyment/emotion, not which ones I consider the "best". Considered doing Bob Dylan but couldn't be arsed.
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Post by Elie De Beaufour on Aug 18, 2021 1:24:42 GMT -5
Your WTF of the day, courtesy of Nuclear power trio:
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Post by Elie De Beaufour on Aug 18, 2021 5:07:44 GMT -5
Your other wtf of the day, Danny from Voyager speaking Russian
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Post by defmaybe00 on Aug 18, 2021 7:17:23 GMT -5
Such a cool record found almost by accident
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Post by Frank Lee Vulgar on Aug 19, 2021 6:05:23 GMT -5
Unpopular opinion, but I've recently rediscovered my love for Green Day or at least some particular eras in their career. Green Day don't deserve half the hate they get. Sure, some of their recent stuff is bland and the songwriting is repetitive. Their best 10-15 songs are still absolute class though. Even between their 90s and 2000s commercial peaks they recorded some sneakily good stuff on Nimrod and Warning.
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Post by defmaybe00 on Aug 20, 2021 7:02:11 GMT -5
Jake Bugg still putting out underwhelming records I see
Such a shame, he had huge potential but it's like he peaked early and never managed to make anything even slightly interesting from 2013 onwards
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Post by Lennon2217 on Aug 20, 2021 10:11:21 GMT -5
Jake Bugg still putting out underwhelming records I see Such a shame, he had huge potential but it's like he peaked early and never managed to make anything even slightly interesting from 2013 onwards Are you talking Jake Bugg or Miles Kane?
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Post by defmaybe00 on Aug 20, 2021 10:58:42 GMT -5
Jake Bugg still putting out underwhelming records I see Such a shame, he had huge potential but it's like he peaked early and never managed to make anything even slightly interesting from 2013 onwards Are you talking Jake Bugg or Miles Kane? Miles Kane's latest wasn't *too* bad to be fair, but I don't think he ever had as much potential as Jake Bugg as a solo artist anyway At least he's got The Last Shadow Puppets to fall back to
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Post by Elie De Beaufour on Aug 21, 2021 10:14:31 GMT -5
Sonic Youth fans (if any), where does this complete beginner start?
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Post by funhouse on Aug 21, 2021 11:22:53 GMT -5
Sonic Youth fans (if any), where does this complete beginner start? Not like a huge fan, but this should be a good listen. Teenage Riot Kool Thing Incinerate Bull In The Heather Sugar Kane
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Post by funhouse on Aug 21, 2021 11:24:22 GMT -5
Love this song, love this channel.
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