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Post by glider on Feb 23, 2015 18:46:36 GMT -5
I have to say, having heard it properly now, there isn't a song that I don't like. The transitions between the tracks work really well. Riverman, Lock All the Doors, Dying Of The Light, Right Stuff, While The Song Remains The Same, You Know We Can't Go Back, Mighty I are all absolutely brilliant. And the wah wah sounds in The Mexican are one of my favourite things about that song. The mastering appears to be good as well from what I can hear and the vocals are at the right level in the mix. A top album. When you don't have iTunes  |
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Post by Lennon2217 on Feb 23, 2015 18:48:18 GMT -5
Remember when Dave Sardy wanted "The Good Rebel" on DBTT. Thank fuck cooler heads prevailed.  Remember when Dave Sardy was a good producer? Because I can't. Was he ever a good producer? He was just a guy at the right time and place. His resume doesn't scream "Let's hire this guy!!!". I think after recording DBTT 3-4 times, Noel was getting desperate. |
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Post by glider on Feb 23, 2015 18:52:47 GMT -5
Remember when Dave Sardy was a good producer? Because I can't. Was he ever a good producer? He was just a guy at the right time and place. His resume doesn't scream "Let's hire this guy!!!". I think after recording DBTT 3-4 times, Noel was getting desperate. Noel still hasn't said if he would have him produce the 3rd album. Or produce anything else for him in the future. |
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Post by Lennon2217 on Feb 23, 2015 18:55:52 GMT -5
Was he ever a good producer? He was just a guy at the right time and place. His resume doesn't scream "Let's hire this guy!!!". I think after recording DBTT 3-4 times, Noel was getting desperate. Noel still hasn't said if he would have him produce the 3rd album. Or produce anything else for him in the future. Noel's a smart man. He produced a better solo album than Sardy did in 2011. There is no going back. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 23, 2015 18:56:48 GMT -5
Was he ever a good producer? He was just a guy at the right time and place. His resume doesn't scream "Let's hire this guy!!!". I think after recording DBTT 3-4 times, Noel was getting desperate. Noel still hasn't said if he would have him produce the 3rd album. Or produce anything else for him in the future. Every thread turns into a Sardy-bashing session. Love it! We as fans have a duty to tell him at all the gigs that Sardy is no longer wanted for any future album. Huge banners need to commissioned with "Fuck Dave Sardy" emblazoned in big red lettering and advertising space should be bought around every arena to convey a similar message. |
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Post by Lennon2217 on Feb 23, 2015 19:01:04 GMT -5
Noel still hasn't said if he would have him produce the 3rd album. Or produce anything else for him in the future. Every thread turns into a Sardy-bashing session. Love it! We as fans have a duty to tell him at all the gigs that Sardy is no longer wanted for any future album. Huge banners need to commissioned with "Fuck Dave Sardy" emblazoned in big red lettering and advertising space should be bought around every arena to convey a similar message. Don't poke the bear!  |
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Post by spaneli on Feb 23, 2015 19:02:06 GMT -5
Have to say that The Dying of the Light sounds amazing. It's gone up a lot in estimations. It's gone from just an average Noel by the numbers song to a near classic and I don't like calling things "classics", but damn that's a good.
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Post by KRRRRRRR on Feb 23, 2015 19:15:26 GMT -5
If you want to "rip" the album so you can listen to it without a stream: 1) Load up the stream, play it. 2) Download/install "Fiddler" www.telerik.com/download/fiddler. This is just a program that tells you what HTTP packets are doing on your machine. Its basically a utility, nothing illegal. The similar tool for a MAC is called "HTTP Scoop". Just Google it. You can use this program to capture ANYTHING that is streaming, so its useful past this. It keeps quality. 3) With Fiddler open, it'll start listing a bunch of stuff, you're looking for an iTunes link, eventually you'll see it pop up. The stream has to be playing during this step so it picks up the data coming to your computer. 4)In the "Hosts" column, you'll see a couple of things -for me it was 2- that pop up that start with "promotions.itunes.com". This is the stream. Right click, go to copy, select "Just URL". Plug the URL into any browser, it'll download an M4P file. Its about 84 MB. Its the full album. You can only play M4P in iTunes and there's no way to convert it, but if your internet is shitty or you want to use it on iTunes to stream to another device, it makes it a lot more stable. 256kpbs, standard iTunes quality. I dont know if sharing M4P files is even possible or if theres metadata embedded, so its best if you want the iTunes rip to do this yourself. |
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Post by element103 on Feb 23, 2015 19:18:12 GMT -5
From an Apple-phobe:
How do you skip forward to later tracks? It's playing away here but I haven't got past Riverman yet.
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Post by glider on Feb 23, 2015 19:18:34 GMT -5
Have to say that The Dying of the Light sounds amazing. It's gone up a lot in estimations. It's gone from just an average Noel by the numbers song to a near classic and I don't like calling things "classics", but damn that's a good. Yeah, that and Riverman are my top tracks. |
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Post by KRRRRRRR on Feb 23, 2015 19:19:15 GMT -5
From an Apple-phobe: How do you skip forward to later tracks? It's playing away here but I haven't got past Riverman yet. You cant. Its not tracked. Its just one whole track. Its done so purposely. Just use the seek bar to move forward/back. |
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Post by peteyparker on Feb 23, 2015 19:25:21 GMT -5
If you want to "rip" the album so you can listen to it without a stream: 1) Load up the stream, play it. 2) Download/install "Fiddler" www.telerik.com/download/fiddler. This is just a program that tells you what HTTP packets are doing on your machine. Its basically a utility, nothing illegal. The similar tool for a MAC is called "HTTP Scoop". Just Google it. You can use this program to capture ANYTHING that is streaming, so its useful past this. It keeps quality. 3) With Fiddler open, it'll start listing a bunch of stuff, you're looking for an iTunes link, eventually you'll see it pop up. 4)In the "Hosts" column, you'll see a couple of things (for me it was 2) pop up that start with "promotions.itunes.com". This is the stream. Right click, go to copy, select "Just URL". Plug the URL into any internet browser, it'll download an M4P file. Its about 84 MB. Its the full album. You can only play M4P in iTunes and there's no way to convert it, but if your internet is shitty or you want to use it on iTunes to stream to another device, it makes it a lot more stable. 256kpbs, standard iTunes quality. I dont know if sharing M4P files is even possible or if theres metadata embedded, so its best if you want the iTunes rip to do this yourself. It doesn't seem to be finding the stream for me. It just says "Tunnel to" for iTunes. Not sure what I'm doing wrong. I have the stream playing right now. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 23, 2015 19:28:51 GMT -5
If you want to "rip" the album so you can listen to it without a stream: 1) Load up the stream, play it. 2) Download/install "Fiddler" www.telerik.com/download/fiddler. This is just a program that tells you what HTTP packets are doing on your machine. Its basically a utility, nothing illegal. The similar tool for a MAC is called "HTTP Scoop". Just Google it. You can use this program to capture ANYTHING that is streaming, so its useful past this. It keeps quality. 3) With Fiddler open, it'll start listing a bunch of stuff, you're looking for an iTunes link, eventually you'll see it pop up. The stream has to be playing during this step so it picks up the data coming to your computer. 4)In the "Hosts" column, you'll see a couple of things -for me it was 2- that pop up that start with "promotions.itunes.com". This is the stream. Right click, go to copy, select "Just URL". Plug the URL into any browser, it'll download an M4P file. Its about 84 MB. Its the full album. You can only play M4P in iTunes and there's no way to convert it, but if your internet is shitty or you want to use it on iTunes to stream to another device, it makes it a lot more stable. 256kpbs, standard iTunes quality. I dont know if sharing M4P files is even possible or if theres metadata embedded, so its best if you want the iTunes rip to do this yourself. Nice one! I was fiddling about with Wireshark to no avail. This worked brilliantly. |
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Post by KRRRRRRR on Feb 23, 2015 19:31:45 GMT -5
It doesn't seem to be finding the stream for me. It just says "Tunnel to" for iTunes. Not sure what I'm doing wrong. I have the stream playing right now. I'm trying to re-create your issue and I have no idea what it means by saying Tunnel to. It doesnt do that for me. If you're on a proxy or VPN that may be why, but I really dont know. I did notice however, that if you start Fiddler, and THEN start the stream, that works too and it may pop up more instantaneously that way. |
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Post by peteyparker on Feb 23, 2015 19:34:07 GMT -5
It doesn't seem to be finding the stream for me. It just says "Tunnel to" for iTunes. Not sure what I'm doing wrong. I have the stream playing right now. I'm trying to re-create your issue and I have no idea what it means by saying Tunnel to. It doesnt do that for me. If you're on a proxy or VPN that may be why, but I really dont know. I did notice however, that if you start Fiddler, and THEN start the stream, that works too and it may pop up more instantaneously that way. Ha ha it worked when I tried it that way. Thanks. |
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Post by Tales from The Mighty I on Feb 23, 2015 19:38:24 GMT -5
So as I've said previously, I have the stream file. It was in a totally different file, so I've gone ahead and re-recorded it to remove the DRM off the file. Now after re-recording, looking at the waveform, no skips are present. I'm splitting the files to their respective Track Times now.
But more later.
BTW: @ooooooo, I've done that, FYI. Fiddler is an amazing program!
More later though, everyone.
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Post by KRRRRRRR on Feb 23, 2015 19:42:44 GMT -5
So as I've said previously, I have the stream file. It was in a totally different file, so I've gone ahead and re-recorded it to remove the DRM off the file. Now after re-recording, looking at the waveform, no skips are present. I'm splitting the files to their respective Track Times now. But more later. BTW: @ooooooo, I've done that, FYI. Fiddler is an amazing program! More later though, everyone. Re-recording? You just transcoded it. You can't convert M4P, so if you used something like Total Recorder or Audacity (etc) to create a wave, if you go to MP3 you lose data. Its up to you to do what you want with it, but not something you want to spread. IMO its too much work for something we'll have a direct rip of in 2-3 days when its out in Japan. |
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Post by HMSBaz on Feb 23, 2015 19:42:54 GMT -5
I wouldn't of bothered splitting, not intending to skip any tracks, good work
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Post by Deleted on Feb 23, 2015 19:56:27 GMT -5
This is a right bastard to transcode. Even FFMpeg doesn't work.
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Post by Tales from The Mighty I on Feb 23, 2015 20:04:23 GMT -5
So as I've said previously, I have the stream file. It was in a totally different file, so I've gone ahead and re-recorded it to remove the DRM off the file. Now after re-recording, looking at the waveform, no skips are present. I'm splitting the files to their respective Track Times now. But more later. BTW: @ooooooo, I've done that, FYI. Fiddler is an amazing program! More later though, everyone. Re-recording? You just transcoded it. You can't convert M4P, so if you used something like Total Recorder or Audacity (etc) to create a wave, if you go to MP3 you lose data. Its up to you to do what you want with it, but not something you want to spread. IMO its too much work for something we'll have a direct rip of in 2-3 days when its out in Japan. I guess you're right. But I've got friends who actually want the iTunes stream split up, so what do you suggest I do? I've halted everything once I saw this haha |
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Post by batfink30 on Feb 23, 2015 20:12:08 GMT -5
Sounds bloody amazing "clean".
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Post by HMSBaz on Feb 23, 2015 20:20:49 GMT -5
Re-recording? You just transcoded it. You can't convert M4P, so if you used something like Total Recorder or Audacity (etc) to create a wave, if you go to MP3 you lose data. Its up to you to do what you want with it, but not something you want to spread. IMO its too much work for something we'll have a direct rip of in 2-3 days when its out in Japan. I guess you're right. But I've got friends who actually want the iTunes stream split up, so what do you suggest I do? I've halted everything once I saw this haha f/f =====>> buttons are good, as you say for the sake of a day. |
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Post by KRRRRRRR on Feb 23, 2015 20:30:08 GMT -5
Re-recording? You just transcoded it. You can't convert M4P, so if you used something like Total Recorder or Audacity (etc) to create a wave, if you go to MP3 you lose data. Its up to you to do what you want with it, but not something you want to spread. IMO its too much work for something we'll have a direct rip of in 2-3 days when its out in Japan. I guess you're right. But I've got friends who actually want the iTunes stream split up, so what do you suggest I do? I've halted everything once I saw this haha Eh tell em to shove it, and just listen to it unsplit haha. |
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Post by samcj on Feb 23, 2015 20:45:55 GMT -5
Is the stream not available in the US?
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Post by thechieftan on Feb 23, 2015 20:46:54 GMT -5
Yeah I don't think its available in the US iTunes store cause I don't see it anywhere, well shucks
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