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Post by theseventwenty on Jan 24, 2018 18:12:48 GMT -5
I'd never seen this interview before, where Noel talks about the AA album: thequietus.com/articles/07125-noel-gallagher-interview-high-flying-birds"At The Quietus we were very excited to learn that you’re also working with Amorphous Androgynous because we loved the last ever Oasis release, Falling Down, that they remixed for you. From the little bit I’ve read about it, it sounds like it’s been a pretty intense experience. NG: Right, I’m going to give you the quick version. This was the record that I started doing first after the split. I took a few of my songs which have ended up on the High Flying Birds album and gave them to Garry [Cobain] and Brian [Dougans]. And they totally took these songs to pieces, they were sticking bits in the wrong way round, putting the end and the beginning, sticking a load of extra choruses in there. I was like, ‘Woah, what have you done?’ And they were like, [imitates stoned guy] ‘Don’t worry about it man, it’s going to be fucking great.’ It sounded good but I was a bit worried about having something that mad come out as my first solo record. So I gave them some more songs to work with, but maybe songs that were less finished, a bit more like sketches, and some other tracks that I still wasn’t sure about, to see what they would do with them. And what they came back with was fucking great. But I don’t want to say too much about it now, because then I won’t have anything to talk about next year when that album comes out. Do you know them? I know who they are. I’m a back in the day fan of ‘Stakker Humanoid’ [by Humanoid] and Future Sound Of London. NG: And what a fucking tune ‘Stakker Humanoid’ is! I didn’t realise it was them until we were about halfway through recording. Someone mentioned that track halfway through recording and I was like, ‘You’re fucking joking… shut up… get the fuck out of here!’ I had to stop and give them a hug. I used to love that tune! But what I will say is this: Gaz never shuts up. He will not stop talking. Every day it would be a lecture on the psychedelic gifts that we were about to receive and there would be an hour and a half, bare minimum, of him talking before we even did anything. And the other one, Brian, never says a word. He just makes loads of joints and occasionally goes: “This is going to be… great.” I’d be in the studio with one guy that never shuts up and another that never talks, both of them getting really high and blowing my songs to pieces and I’d be like, ‘I’m sure I used to be in a really famous band...’ But what they’ve done is amazing. That’s fair enough but just whet our appetite a little bit. If there’s a certain sun-dappled psychedelia to High Flying Birds, is the Amorphous Androgynous record going to melt our faces? NG: Well, I’ll tell you this, if there are hints of psychedelia to the High Flying Birds then Gaz and Brian have taken those hints and exploded them. They say that they’ve finished but they still haven’t delivered it. I know they’re still tweaking it, making it go even further out there. I think there’s going to be about ten intense psychedelic songs and three songs that are on the High Flying Birds album but reworked by them. How we’ve envisaged it is like a modern take on Dark Side Of The Moon, with lots of texture and ambient noise on it… You know what, you need to get a lot of doorbell noises on it, so that when some 15-year old pothead in Levenshulme hears it he gets up to answer the door in the middle of the night. NG: Ha ha ha! Brilliant. You know what, before I was in Oasis I used to live in Asia House in Manchester and my door bell was exactly the same tone as a sound out of ‘Tomorrow Never Knows’ and I can’t tell you the number of times I got up to answer the door stoned out of my mind and there was no one there… And as is my wont, I’d better end on a terrible question: all the way from the Inspiral Carpets to Alisha Sufit of Magic Carpet [psych rock singer and Amorphous Androgynous/Noel Gallagher collaborator], how has the trip been so far? NG: Do you know what? All of it’s been brilliant. In a word, great. Even Oasis splitting up was great. I mean, we got 17 years out of it. Who would have thought we would have stayed as big as we did for as long as we did? Just brilliant."
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Post by theseventwenty on Feb 25, 2018 22:30:00 GMT -5
I wonder if THIS bit of music is from the AA sessions too - sounds like it kinda could be, when the mellotron comes in and stuff...
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Post by lau on May 11, 2018 12:42:43 GMT -5
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Post by mossy on May 11, 2018 15:02:52 GMT -5
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Post by MONO on Aug 19, 2018 11:10:07 GMT -5
Noel did NOT destroy the masters. (Just in case someone thought it was true).
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Post by theseventwenty on Aug 19, 2018 11:54:04 GMT -5
And he might revisit the album later!
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Post by Derrick on Aug 19, 2018 12:28:39 GMT -5
Noel did NOT destroy the masters. (Just in case someone thought it was true). Oh, we all faithfully trust Noel, so we all did believe it, just like we all believe now that Sara had mistakenly placed them in the socks drawer where they remained unnoticed for years. Let's guess the masters of the DIV sessions are hidden somewhere in the broom closet behind the cleaning supplies...
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Post by shannee on Aug 19, 2018 14:51:44 GMT -5
Noel is the biggest fucking liar ever!! I literally lol-ed at this
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2018 15:45:55 GMT -5
Who does this wee guy think he is calling ma feet medieval when he’s a grown man still hiding stuff in a sock drawer.... grow up (both to him personally and also to his wee totty trotters).
I heavy want to hear the album but like it’s probably going to be pure anticlimactic if it ever did get released.
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Post by petergallagher on Aug 19, 2018 16:28:33 GMT -5
Well, it's easy to lose something in the sock drawer when your socks are that small that you can fit thousands of pairs of them in it
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Post by oasisserbia on Aug 20, 2018 10:03:53 GMT -5
I'm not sure if Noel was always wanker that he is now or I just grew up and stopped admiring his interviews.
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Post by oasisserbia on Aug 20, 2018 10:05:26 GMT -5
And it would be so nice to watch him losing his hair hehehe.
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Post by oasisserbia on Aug 20, 2018 10:22:07 GMT -5
It sometimes feels like that he was bass player in Echobelly and not leader of last great Rock and Roll band. He met De Niro and McConaughey and he is talking about that all the time like he is some local guy from pub who met them once also. And of course, there always has to be story about him and fucking Bono. I know that he was asked this time and that it was Q and A but he is always talking about them regardless.
And then story about his perfect hair, his perfect feet and his perfect jeans size. I understand his humour and all that but it's getting so boring.
He should be so above all those thing not only because of who he is but also because of his age.
I met this celebrity, I met that celebrity, look at my perfect hair, look at my perfect feet... It's like interview with some participant from some fucking reality show.
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Post by mossy on Aug 21, 2018 4:59:54 GMT -5
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Post by crisppacket on Aug 21, 2018 5:58:33 GMT -5
Oh shitttt, was there any need for so many brackets though ☹️☹️☹️ Interesting to read how he’d written in the studio, thought Noely had never done that before and it was a revolutionary tactic DH employed eh 🙄 But long story short Noel wasted more than a year of their time/money and used AA stuff without credit yeah?
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Post by shannee on Aug 21, 2018 8:25:31 GMT -5
Here’s the thing though, when you feel someone has burned and used you, you don’t keep going back to get burned again and then bitch about it.
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Post by mossy on Aug 21, 2018 11:57:38 GMT -5
Oh shitttt, was there any need for so many brackets though ☹️☹️☹️ Interesting to read how he’d written in the studio, thought Noely had never done that before and it was a revolutionary tactic DH employed eh 🙄 But long story short Noel wasted more than a year of their time/money and used AA stuff without credit yeah? Yeah, nothing new in this latest post, all things Gaz has said before. Given Noel’s past performance and by just trusting my ears when listening to The Right Stuff I’m willing to believe most of what Gaz says. X
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Post by mossy on Aug 21, 2018 12:48:55 GMT -5
Here’s the thing though, when you feel someone has burned and used you, you don’t keep going back to get burned again and then bitch about it. Gaz has posted at length explaining why he considered working with Noel again after getting burnt once. Maybe he’s just more forgiving than you, you heartless bastard ;-P X
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Post by Binary Sunset on Aug 21, 2018 14:30:17 GMT -5
Man, that's difficult to read with the formatting and brackets
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Post by bogaloo on Aug 21, 2018 16:30:38 GMT -5
Does anyone know what are the criteria for crediting people in albums? There must be some kind of published criteria, no?
That kind of thing should be as clear as possible from the beggining, that and how much you're getting paid.
It would just be easier: you could either agree to the terms or not before starting the work.
This said, I've just been reminded that in the end the AA were offered 8k to remix 7 tracks in 2 months, whereas I earn less than 2000 euros per month for 42 h weekly work (in which I may end up killing someone if I do so some mistake), plus, I rarely am able to leave on schedule due to (unpaid) overwork. Plus, I am more or less obliged to do scientific work (again, unpaid) if I want to have a few more Kudos in my CV and eventually progress to a higher "tier" of payment in the next 5 years (that IF indeed those vacancies for a higher tier ever are out to applicances). It-makes-me-depressed.
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Post by 2nz on Aug 21, 2018 17:02:15 GMT -5
Cynically he's probably keen to work with him as he's still their main potential mealticket- if they're running at 8k a project for a few months then someone as mainstream as Noel could open up so many doors for them still.
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Post by shannee on Aug 21, 2018 17:05:56 GMT -5
Here’s the thing though, when you feel someone has burned and used you, you don’t keep going back to get burned again and then bitch about it. Gaz has posted at length explaining why he considered working with Noel again after getting burnt once. Maybe he’s just more forgiving than you, you heartless bastard ;-P X No doubt he is lol. Apparently there needs to be a standard Noel Gallagher contract notice: all those who intend to collaborate with NG, know he will leave your tired useless corpse in the dust when he’s done with you, and act accordingly. Seems like Gaz just got so into this project he lost his head over it. I’m sure it’s been said already that the communication between him and Noel was not functional. I’m not convinced Noel owed him an explaination about working on the other record at the same time, since this was a very divisive and defining moment in Noel’s career and he probably didn’t even know what he was going to do. Gaz would have been smart to keep this in mind and realize how important it would be for Noel to get it right. Of course it would have been NICE of Noel to communicate but when has he ever gone out of his way to be nice and include someone in his choices about his music? You always have to be aware of who you are working with or your’re not going to make a successful team. I’m sure all this Holmes talk is driving Gaz up the wall but ultimately the public doesn’t care about how he got burned and got his feelings hurt. The public only care about gossip. He would have been better served laughing it off and calling Noel a bastard instead of posting some long rant.
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Post by bogaloo on Aug 21, 2018 17:39:04 GMT -5
Gaz has posted at length explaining why he considered working with Noel again after getting burnt once. Maybe he’s just more forgiving than you, you heartless bastard ;-P X No doubt he is lol. Apparently there needs to be a standard Noel Gallagher contract notice: all those who intend to collaborate with NG, know he will leave your tired useless corpse in the dust when he’s done with you, and act accordingly. Seems like Gaz just got so into this project he lost his head over it. I’m sure it’s been said already that the communication between him and Noel was not functional. I’m not convinced Noel owed him an explaination about working on the other record at the same time, since this was a very divisive and defining moment in Noel’s career and he probably didn’t even know what he was going to do. Gaz would have been smart to keep this in mind and realize how important it would be for Noel to get it right. Of course it would have been NICE of Noel to communicate but when has he ever gone out of his way to be nice and include someone in his choices about his music? You always have to be aware of who you are working with or your’re not going to make a successful team. I’m sure all this Holmes talk is driving Gaz up the wall but ultimately the public doesn’t care about how he got burned and got his feelings hurt. The public only care about gossip. He would have been better served laughing it off and calling Noel a bastard instead of posting some long rant. This, a thousand times. And if indeed it is as clear as it seems that they've been uncredited and hence unpaid, then do sue him and wait for a decision, don't come ranting on Facebook about it. After a 5 min research on Google it was easy to realize that there are no clear cut guidelines to crediting people. I'm not claiming to know anything about it, but from what I read, it may even vary according to genre- hip hop producers are often credited as cowriters while rock producers are often not. The last paragraph in this article is quite telling... www.thebalancecareers.com/how-should-i-pay-my-music-producer-2460965I'd probably bet that things with Holmes have been clearer from the beggining, he seems a far more straightfoward type of person, who wouldn't let boxes unticked regarding payment and royalties beforehand, for everyone's benefit.
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Post by Let It Bleed on Aug 21, 2018 17:42:51 GMT -5
I bet that AA guy loves the sound of his own voice.....talk about long post! Glad I didn't waste my time reading that.
Thanks.
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Post by shannee on Aug 21, 2018 18:04:38 GMT -5
No doubt he is lol. Apparently there needs to be a standard Noel Gallagher contract notice: all those who intend to collaborate with NG, know he will leave your tired useless corpse in the dust when he’s done with you, and act accordingly. Seems like Gaz just got so into this project he lost his head over it. I’m sure it’s been said already that the communication between him and Noel was not functional. I’m not convinced Noel owed him an explaination about working on the other record at the same time, since this was a very divisive and defining moment in Noel’s career and he probably didn’t even know what he was going to do. Gaz would have been smart to keep this in mind and realize how important it would be for Noel to get it right. Of course it would have been NICE of Noel to communicate but when has he ever gone out of his way to be nice and include someone in his choices about his music? You always have to be aware of who you are working with or your’re not going to make a successful team. I’m sure all this Holmes talk is driving Gaz up the wall but ultimately the public doesn’t care about how he got burned and got his feelings hurt. The public only care about gossip. He would have been better served laughing it off and calling Noel a bastard instead of posting some long rant. This, a thousand times. And if indeed it is as clear as it seems that they've been uncredited and hence unpaid, then do sue him and wait for a decision, don't come ranting on Facebook about it. After a 5 min research on Google it was easy to realize that there are no clear cut guidelines to crediting people. I'm not claiming to know anything about it, but from what I read, it may even vary according to genre- hip hop producers are often credited as cowriters while rock producers are often not. The last paragraph in this article is quite telling... www.thebalancecareers.com/how-should-i-pay-my-music-producer-2460965I'd probably bet that things with Holmes have been clearer from the beggining, he seems a far more straightfoward type of person, who wouldn't let boxes unticked regarding payment and royalties beforehand, for everyone's benefit. Yes communication failure again I think. Gaz should of had a royalties contract signed before he handed over tapes for mixing. It’s just foolish to give over all your work with no written agreement
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