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Post by Manualex on Aug 30, 2015 12:48:26 GMT -5
^ I'd take The Nature Of Reality over those two any day. I would takr 4 letter word. The riff(forget aboit the lyrics) of nature of reality and the other two? Erase them. |
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Post by glider on Aug 30, 2015 13:13:48 GMT -5
^ I'd take The Nature Of Reality over those two any day. Kill for A Dream sucks, but Beat Goes On is just really cheesy. |
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Post by World71R on Aug 30, 2015 13:34:04 GMT -5
If only to annoy The Doc- erm... Mean Mrs Mustard: 1. Bag it Up 2. The Turning 3. Waiting for the Rapture 4. The Shock of the Lightning 5. I'm Outta Time 6. (Get Off Your) High Horse Lady 7. Falling Down 8. To Be Where There's Life 9. Come On Outside (Liam Vox) 10. Soldier On Notice how it isn't radically different from the album; that's because DOYS is fucking good. I like it, but I'd just replace Come on Outside with Boy With the Blues, since we don't exactly have a Liam-sung Come on Outside, unfortunately.  |
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Post by The Crimson Rambler on Aug 30, 2015 13:55:50 GMT -5
I quite like The Nature Of Reality ((GOY)HHL, AGNOY & SO too). Musically they're pretty good. Obviously Noel and the gang had a few better tracks in the canon worthy of replacing them ( BWTB & Come On Outside) but one suggestion I don't see many putting forward is Andy Bell's solo track Grapefruit. Now technically it's not an Oasis song, but it's hardly a stretch to see it placed on the album. It's a little experimental, a little bit different and something I'm sure many would see as being a progressive move. It'd probably need reworking as I've always found it sounded like a demo, but with a bit of muscle behind it and some wilder guitars (during the moments of feedback) it'd scrub up pretty nicely. I'm sure not everyone would like it, but some would see it as a step forward. It's also probably worth throwing Freaky Teeth's name into the ring as well. I'm not sure if it was demoed in the side sessions to DOYS or very shortly after, but if it was the former it'd make some solid filler which would again match the style of the album. Sorry Mean Mrs. Mustard * but it's tracklist time.
I'm not gonna include (IWLIADIM)RM and STC because I'd use them in a previous album (plus they don't fit the style album) and I'm not gonna include the Richard Fearless mix of TBWTL because I think the Sardy (I know right?) original is far better.
Dig Out Your Soul 1) Bag It Up [Liam] 2) The Turning [Liam] 3) Waiting For The Rapture [Noel] 4) The Shock Of The Lighting [Liam] 5) I'm Outta Time [Liam] 6) Freaky Teeth [Noel] [Dig Out Your Soul Mix] 7) Come On Outside [Liam] [Dig Out Your Soul Mix] 8) Grapefruit [Instrumental] [Dig Out Your Soul Mix] 9) Falling Down [Noel] 10) To Be Where There's Life [Liam] 11) Boy With The Blues [Liam]
Now where's that A&R job Lennon2217 keeps harping on about.  In all seriousness it's not perfect but it's a pretty good alternative I reckon. *Not sorry  |
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Post by mahsteve on Aug 30, 2015 15:26:38 GMT -5
I quite like The Nature Of Reality ((GOY)HHL, AGNOY & SO too). Musically they're pretty good. Obviously Noel and the gang had a few better tracks in the canon worthy of replacing them ( BWTB & Come On Outside) but one suggestion I don't see many putting forward is Andy Bell's solo track Grapefruit. Now technically it's not an Oasis song, but it's hardly a stretch to see it placed on the album. It's a little experimental, a little bit different and something I'm sure many would see as being a progressive move. It'd probably need reworking as I've always found it sounded like a demo, but with a bit of muscle behind it and some wilder guitars (during the moments of feedback) it'd scrub up pretty nicely. I'm sure not everyone would like it, but some would see it as a step forward. It's also probably worth throwing Freaky Teeth's name into the ring as well. I'm not sure if it was demoed in the side sessions to DOYS or very shortly after, but if it was the former it'd make some solid filler which would again match the style of the album. Sorry Mean Mrs. Mustard * but it's tracklist time.
I'm not gonna include (IWLIADIM)RM and STC because I'd use them in a previous album (plus they don't fit the style album) and I'm not gonna include the Richard Fearless mix of TBWTL because I think the Sardy (I know right?) original is far better.
Dig Out Your Soul 1) Bag It Up [Liam] 2) The Turning [Liam] 3) Waiting For The Rapture [Noel] 4) The Shock Of The Lighting [Liam] 5) I'm Outta Time [Liam] 6) Freaky Teeth [Noel] [Dig Out Your Soul Mix] 7) Come On Outside [Liam] [Dig Out Your Soul Mix] 8) Grapefruit [Instrumental] [Dig Out Your Soul Mix] 9) Falling Down [Noel] 10) To Be Where There's Life [Liam] 11) Boy With The Blues [Liam]
Now where's that A&R job Lennon2217 keeps harping on about. In all seriousness it's not perfect but it's a pretty good alternative I reckon. *Not sorry Interesting read. I agree RM and STC should have been used during the DBTT era. I forgot about grapefruit and freaky teeth. |
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Post by Lennon2217 on Aug 30, 2015 15:42:07 GMT -5
I quite like The Nature Of Reality ((GOY)HHL, AGNOY & SO too). Musically they're pretty good. Obviously Noel and the gang had a few better tracks in the canon worthy of replacing them ( BWTB & Come On Outside) but one suggestion I don't see many putting forward is Andy Bell's solo track Grapefruit. Now technically it's not an Oasis song, but it's hardly a stretch to see it placed on the album. It's a little experimental, a little bit different and something I'm sure many would see as being a progressive move. It'd probably need reworking as I've always found it sounded like a demo, but with a bit of muscle behind it and some wilder guitars (during the moments of feedback) it'd scrub up pretty nicely. I'm sure not everyone would like it, but some would see it as a step forward. It's also probably worth throwing Freaky Teeth's name into the ring as well. I'm not sure if it was demoed in the side sessions to DOYS or very shortly after, but if it was the former it'd make some solid filler which would again match the style of the album. Sorry Mean Mrs. Mustard * but it's tracklist time.
I'm not gonna include (IWLIADIM)RM and STC because I'd use them in a previous album (plus they don't fit the style album) and I'm not gonna include the Richard Fearless mix of TBWTL because I think the Sardy (I know right?) original is far better.
Dig Out Your Soul 1) Bag It Up [Liam] 2) The Turning [Liam] 3) Waiting For The Rapture [Noel] 4) The Shock Of The Lighting [Liam] 5) I'm Outta Time [Liam] 6) Freaky Teeth [Noel] [Dig Out Your Soul Mix] 7) Come On Outside [Liam] [Dig Out Your Soul Mix] 8) Grapefruit [Instrumental] [Dig Out Your Soul Mix] 9) Falling Down [Noel] 10) To Be Where There's Life [Liam] 11) Boy With The Blues [Liam]
Now where's that A&R job Lennon2217 keeps harping on about. In all seriousness it's not perfect but it's a pretty good alternative I reckon. *Not sorry My general policy with Oasis post 2000 is this: As much Noel as possible. Maybe some Liam. No Andy or Gem unless a standout like Turn Up The Sun occurs. Very rare.  Freaky Teeth was written in the fall of 2008. Long after the recording and mixing for DOYS. If anything, Freaky Teeth needed to be on HFB. Would totally fit after WAL and another rocker was much needed. My REVISED Dig Out Your Soul track list (minus STC and RM) is......................... Bag It Up The Turning Waiting For The Rapture The Shock of The Lightning I'm Outta Time Come On Outside Falling Down To Be Where There Is Life (Fearless) I Believe In All Boy With The Blues |
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Post by The Crimson Rambler on Aug 30, 2015 15:52:09 GMT -5
I quite like The Nature Of Reality ((GOY)HHL, AGNOY & SO too). Musically they're pretty good. Obviously Noel and the gang had a few better tracks in the canon worthy of replacing them ( BWTB & Come On Outside) but one suggestion I don't see many putting forward is Andy Bell's solo track Grapefruit. Now technically it's not an Oasis song, but it's hardly a stretch to see it placed on the album. It's a little experimental, a little bit different and something I'm sure many would see as being a progressive move. It'd probably need reworking as I've always found it sounded like a demo, but with a bit of muscle behind it and some wilder guitars (during the moments of feedback) it'd scrub up pretty nicely. I'm sure not everyone would like it, but some would see it as a step forward. It's also probably worth throwing Freaky Teeth's name into the ring as well. I'm not sure if it was demoed in the side sessions to DOYS or very shortly after, but if it was the former it'd make some solid filler which would again match the style of the album. Sorry Mean Mrs. Mustard * but it's tracklist time.
I'm not gonna include (IWLIADIM)RM and STC because I'd use them in a previous album (plus they don't fit the style album) and I'm not gonna include the Richard Fearless mix of TBWTL because I think the Sardy (I know right?) original is far better.
Dig Out Your Soul 1) Bag It Up [Liam] 2) The Turning [Liam] 3) Waiting For The Rapture [Noel] 4) The Shock Of The Lighting [Liam] 5) I'm Outta Time [Liam] 6) Freaky Teeth [Noel] [Dig Out Your Soul Mix] 7) Come On Outside [Liam] [Dig Out Your Soul Mix] 8) Grapefruit [Instrumental] [Dig Out Your Soul Mix] 9) Falling Down [Noel] 10) To Be Where There's Life [Liam] 11) Boy With The Blues [Liam]
Now where's that A&R job Lennon2217 keeps harping on about. In all seriousness it's not perfect but it's a pretty good alternative I reckon. *Not sorry My general policy with Oasis post 2000 is this: As much Noel as possible. Maybe some Liam. No Andy or Gem unless a standout like Turn Up The Sun occurs. Very rare. Freaky Teeth was written in the fall of 2008. Long after the recording and mixing for DOYS. If anything, Freaky Teeth needed to be on HFB. Would totally fit after WAL and another rocker was much needed. Unless you've got a good quote handy I'm going off asimarx 's speculation. |
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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on Aug 30, 2015 16:02:16 GMT -5
I've got the feeling that Noel's and my idea of a psychedelic song are very different.
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Post by World71R on Aug 30, 2015 16:15:01 GMT -5
I quite like The Nature Of Reality ((GOY)HHL, AGNOY & SO too). Musically they're pretty good. Obviously Noel and the gang had a few better tracks in the canon worthy of replacing them ( BWTB & Come On Outside) but one suggestion I don't see many putting forward is Andy Bell's solo track Grapefruit. Now technically it's not an Oasis song, but it's hardly a stretch to see it placed on the album. It's a little experimental, a little bit different and something I'm sure many would see as being a progressive move. It'd probably need reworking as I've always found it sounded like a demo, but with a bit of muscle behind it and some wilder guitars (during the moments of feedback) it'd scrub up pretty nicely. I'm sure not everyone would like it, but some would see it as a step forward. It's also probably worth throwing Freaky Teeth's name into the ring as well. I'm not sure if it was demoed in the side sessions to DOYS or very shortly after, but if it was the former it'd make some solid filler which would again match the style of the album. Sorry Mean Mrs. Mustard * but it's tracklist time.
I'm not gonna include (IWLIADIM)RM and STC because I'd use them in a previous album (plus they don't fit the style album) and I'm not gonna include the Richard Fearless mix of TBWTL because I think the Sardy (I know right?) original is far better.
Dig Out Your Soul 1) Bag It Up [Liam] 2) The Turning [Liam] 3) Waiting For The Rapture [Noel] 4) The Shock Of The Lighting [Liam] 5) I'm Outta Time [Liam] 6) Freaky Teeth [Noel] [Dig Out Your Soul Mix] 7) Come On Outside [Liam] [Dig Out Your Soul Mix] 8) Grapefruit [Instrumental] [Dig Out Your Soul Mix] 9) Falling Down [Noel] 10) To Be Where There's Life [Liam] 11) Boy With The Blues [Liam]
Now where's that A&R job Lennon2217 keeps harping on about. In all seriousness it's not perfect but it's a pretty good alternative I reckon. *Not sorry My general policy with Oasis post 2000 is this: As much Noel as possible. Maybe some Liam. No Andy or Gem unless a standout like Turn Up The Sun occurs. Very rare. Freaky Teeth was written in the fall of 2008. Long after the recording and mixing for DOYS. If anything, Freaky Teeth needed to be on HFB. Would totally fit after WAL and another rocker was much needed. My REVISED Dig Out Your Soul track list (minus STC and RM) is......................... Bag It Up The Turning Waiting For The Rapture The Shock of The Lightning I'm Outta Time Come On Outside Falling Down To Be Where There Is Life (Fearless) I Believe In All Boy With The Blues Nice list, but I Believe in All falls too late in the going. I'd have it like this: Bag it Up The Turning Waiting for the Rapture The Shock of the Lightning I'm Outta Time I Believe in All (Get Off Your) High Horse Lady Falling Down To Be Where There's Life Boy With the Blues (shortened outro) Soldier On Come on Outside would've been a nice track to have on there, but fuck, there's already three Noel tracks on there, and they all fit well within the context of the album, so why change that? |
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Post by World71R on Aug 30, 2015 16:16:04 GMT -5
I've got the feeling Noel's and my idea of a psychedelic song are very different. And the idea that 98% of people, including you and I, have of a psychedelic song, really. |
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Post by Lennon2217 on Aug 30, 2015 17:23:02 GMT -5
My general policy with Oasis post 2000 is this: As much Noel as possible. Maybe some Liam. No Andy or Gem unless a standout like Turn Up The Sun occurs. Very rare. Freaky Teeth was written in the fall of 2008. Long after the recording and mixing for DOYS. If anything, Freaky Teeth needed to be on HFB. Would totally fit after WAL and another rocker was much needed. My REVISED Dig Out Your Soul track list (minus STC and RM) is......................... Bag It Up The Turning Waiting For The Rapture The Shock of The Lightning I'm Outta Time Come On Outside Falling Down To Be Where There Is Life (Fearless) I Believe In All Boy With The Blues Nice list, but I Believe in All falls too late in the going. I'd have it like this: Bag it Up The Turning Waiting for the Rapture The Shock of the Lightning I'm Outta Time I Believe in All (Get Off Your) High Horse Lady Falling Down To Be Where There's Life Boy With the Blues (shortened outro) Soldier On Come on Outside would've been a nice track to have on there, but fuck, there's already three Noel tracks on there, and they all fit well within the context of the album, so why change that? You gotta think three dimensionally. Liam would have sung "Come On Outside". |
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Post by Lennon2217 on Aug 30, 2015 17:24:59 GMT -5
My general policy with Oasis post 2000 is this: As much Noel as possible. Maybe some Liam. No Andy or Gem unless a standout like Turn Up The Sun occurs. Very rare. Freaky Teeth was written in the fall of 2008. Long after the recording and mixing for DOYS. If anything, Freaky Teeth needed to be on HFB. Would totally fit after WAL and another rocker was much needed. Unless you've got a good quote handy I'm going off asimarx 's speculation. Exactly. The quote says since the recording of DOYS and he made the statement in August. Well after all the work was done. |
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Post by The Crimson Rambler on Aug 30, 2015 17:37:44 GMT -5
Unless you've got a good quote handy I'm going off asimarx 's speculation. Exactly. The quote says since the recording of DOYS and he made the statement in August. Well after all the work was done. A) The date of the quote proves it was written by August 08 at the very latest. It could have been written months before if not earlier. Noel's hardly a reliable source and would happily crowbar a song with backstory into an interview and streamline its dating for the sake of a better story. B) I said I'm basing its dating off asimarx speculation: Your move...  |
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Post by Lennon2217 on Aug 30, 2015 17:41:53 GMT -5
Exactly. The quote says since the recording of DOYS and he made the statement in August. Well after all the work was done. A) The date of the quote proves it was written by August 08 at the very latest. It could have been written months before if not earlier. Noel's hardly a reliable source and would happily crowbar a song with backstory into an interview and streamline its dating for the sake of a better story. B) I said I'm basing its dating off asimarx speculation: Your move... Not a chance it is from the DOYS sessions. Noel only opened his big fat mouth about this song months later. I strongly believe if he had it sooner, he would have gushed about it far sooner. |
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Post by The Crimson Rambler on Aug 30, 2015 17:48:56 GMT -5
A) The date of the quote proves it was written by August 08 at the very latest. It could have been written months before if not earlier. Noel's hardly a reliable source and would happily crowbar a song with backstory into an interview and streamline its dating for the sake of a better story. B) I said I'm basing its dating off asimarx speculation: Your move... Not a chance it is from the DOYS sessions. Noel only opened his big fat mouth about this song months later. I strongly believe if he had it sooner, he would have gushed about it far sooner. Find some proof and I'll happily scrub it off my list. Until then it's very plausible. Freaky Teeth's hardly track worthy of bringing up for no good reason and upon searching where the quote came from, low and behold, he was talking about James Bond films before hand. www.nme.com/news/oasis/39763 |
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Post by mystoryisgory on Aug 30, 2015 20:47:21 GMT -5
DBTT session songs = DOYS tracklisting thread??? |
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Post by Lennon2217 on Aug 30, 2015 22:08:39 GMT -5
DBTT session songs = DOYS tracklisting thread??? Have I ever shared with you my alternate Heathen Chemistry track list..........? |
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Post by mystoryisgory on Aug 30, 2015 22:11:05 GMT -5
DBTT session songs = DOYS tracklisting thread??? Have I ever shared with you my alternate Heathen Chemistry track list..........? I think it goes like this: 1. Silence 2. Silence 3. Silence 4. Silence 5. Silence 6. Silence 7. Silence 8. Silence 9. Silence 10. Silence 11. Silence (with hidden track The Quiet Ones) |
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Post by glider on Aug 30, 2015 22:25:47 GMT -5
Heathen Chemistry if it had to be an album (this period should've have been an EP or individual single)
1. The Hindu Times
2. The Roller
3. Hung In a Bad Place
4. Stop Crying Your Heart Out
5. Songbird
6. Little by Little
7. Born On A Different Cloud (better production)
8. (Instrumental)
9. One Way Road
10. It's A Crime (Liam/Noel)
11. Shout It Out Loud
Hidden Track: Revolution Song (AKA...Solve My Mystery)
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Post by World71R on Aug 30, 2015 22:46:04 GMT -5
Heathen Chemistry if it had to be an album (this period should've have been an EP or individual single) 1. The Hindu Times 2. The Roller 3. Hung In a Bad Place 4. Stop Crying Your Heart Out 5. Songbird 6. Little by Little 7. Born On A Different Cloud (better production) 8. (Instrumental) 9. One Way Road 10. It's A Crime (Liam/Noel) 11. Shout It Out Loud Hidden Track: Revolution Song (AKA...Solve My Mystery) I'd do it like this: 1. The Hindu Times 2. Shout it Out Loud 3. Hung in a Bad Place 4. Stop Crying Your Heart Out 5. Songbird 6. Little by Little 7. A Quick Peep 8. Thank You For the Good Times 9. Idler's Dream 10. Born on a Different Cloud But a combination of HC & SOTSOG would be badass imo: 1. Fuckin' in the Bushes 2. The Hindu Times 3. Shout it Out Loud 4. Go Let it Out 5. Who Feels Love? 6. Let's All Make Believe 7. Gas Panic! 8. Where Did it All Go Wrong? (Demo Version) 9. Little by Little 10. Stop Crying Your Heart Out 11. Roll it Over |
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Post by guigsysEstring on Aug 31, 2015 3:24:06 GMT -5
Ah, I know I'm on record with my opinions on Sardy here, but I have to say again that what the band needed at that period was a producer with good ideas who yes, could take charge and even put forward track lists for the finished LP. The person for this role IMO was not a linear producer with a limited arsenal of tricks at his disposal, but either a full sound rock producer or someone leftt field such as DIV or even perhaps Dave Fridmann (Mercury Rev, Mogwai, Weezer, Sleater-Kinney to name a few). I think the success of DBTT gave him credit he had not necessarily earned, as that record's sales outside the UK picked up during the tour, which by Oasis standards was an incident free and very successful affair. Whilst I don't bear Dave Sardy any personal ill will, I can't see as a producer what he has brought to any records (including non-Oasis) I have heard that would not have been better served by a different person at the controls. |
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Post by Lennon2217 on Aug 31, 2015 6:42:53 GMT -5
Heathen Chemistry if it had to be an album (this period should've have been an EP or individual single) 1. The Hindu Times 2. The Roller 3. Hung In a Bad Place 4. Stop Crying Your Heart Out 5. Songbird 6. Little by Little 7. Born On A Different Cloud (better production) 8. (Instrumental) 9. One Way Road 10. It's A Crime (Liam/Noel) 11. Shout It Out Loud Hidden Track: Revolution Song (AKA...Solve My Mystery) Yeah, Heathen Chemistry is packed with filler, mostly shit. Going the EP route or Led Zeppelin style (less tracks) might have been the way but very edgey in 2002. 1. The Hindu Times 2. Stop Crying Your Heart Out 3. Songbird 4. Little By Little 5. She Is Love 6. Born On A Different Cloud 7. You've Got The Heart of A Star I knew as soon as Oasis entered the HC era, I immediately wanted them to get out of it. |
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Post by glider on Aug 31, 2015 8:10:49 GMT -5
Heathen Chemistry if it had to be an album (this period should've have been an EP or individual single) 1. The Hindu Times 2. The Roller 3. Hung In a Bad Place 4. Stop Crying Your Heart Out 5. Songbird 6. Little by Little 7. Born On A Different Cloud (better production) 8. (Instrumental) 9. One Way Road 10. It's A Crime (Liam/Noel) 11. Shout It Out Loud Hidden Track: Revolution Song (AKA...Solve My Mystery) Yeah, Heathen Chemistry is packed with filler, mostly shit. Going the EP route or Led Zeppelin style (less tracks) might have been the way but very edgey in 2002. 1. The Hindu Times 2. Stop Crying Your Heart Out 3. Songbird 4. Little By Little 5. She Is Love 6. Born On A Different Cloud 7. You've Got The Heart of A Star I knew as soon as Oasis entered the HC era, I immediately wanted them to get out of it. Edgy but would've paid off alot more than have an era with commercially successful singles yet a terribly arranged album. 1. The Hindu Times 2. Stop Crying Your Heart Out 3. Little By Little 4. Songbird 5. It's A Crime (Liam/Noel) 6. Idler's Dream 7. Shout It Out Loud Hidden Track: Revolution Song *And also, axe She Is Love off of that tracklist right now!  |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 31, 2015 8:17:37 GMT -5
If only to annoy The Doc- erm... Mean Mrs Mustard: 1. Bag it Up 2. The Turning 3. Waiting for the Rapture 4. The Shock of the Lightning 5. I'm Outta Time 6. (Get Off Your) High Horse Lady 7. Falling Down 8. To Be Where There's Life 9. Come On Outside (Liam Vox) 10. Soldier On Notice how it isn't radically different from the album; that's because DOYS is fucking good. I like it, but I'd just replace Come on Outside with Boy With the Blues, since we don't exactly have a Liam-sung Come on Outside, unfortunately. A small change: 1. Bag it Up 2. The Turning 3. Waiting For the Rapture 4. The Shock of the Lightning 5. I'm Outta Time 6. Boy With the Blues 7. Falling Down 8. To Be Where's Life 9. Come On Outside 10. Soldier On The only good thing from the Heathen Chemisty period was The Hindu Times Demo, which is the sound they should have been going for. Such an epic demo. |
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Post by World71R on Aug 31, 2015 14:05:27 GMT -5
I like it, but I'd just replace Come on Outside with Boy With the Blues, since we don't exactly have a Liam-sung Come on Outside, unfortunately. A small change: 1. Bag it Up 2. The Turning 3. Waiting For the Rapture 4. The Shock of the Lightning 5. I'm Outta Time 6. Boy With the Blues 7. Falling Down 8. To Be Where's Life 9. Come On Outside 10. Soldier On The only good thing from the Heathen Chemisty period was The Hindu Times Demo, which is the sound they should have been going for. Such an epic demo.To be fair, all of the singles were really good, aside from the She is Shi- I mean She is Love. Shout it Out Loud was also really good too, but I do see your point in that THT demo was something they should've continued going for, along with the kind of sound that SCYHO, SIOL and LBL achieved. That would've been a nice mix of classic Oasis, and a forward thinking Oasis. |
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In all seriousness it's not perfect but it's a pretty good alternative I reckon.
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