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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Jul 17, 2014 16:08:49 GMT -5
There are serious and potentially disturbing political implications and ramifications from the fall out of the shot down Malaysian passenger jet. As far as international relations go, this could get ugly. Hopefully, everything is done in a responsible manner, but the situation is very, very, loaded.
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Jul 17, 2014 16:29:07 GMT -5
www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2696366/It-looks-like-terrible-tragedy-Obama-briefly-addresses-Malaysian-plane-crash-emerges-23-U-S-passengers-board.htmlYou've got to be kidding me. Now I know what it's like to have lived under Carter. The shot down Malaysian passenger jet transcends a "tragedy", Obama. Whether that specific plane was the intended target is moot, either way there are severe ramifications from an international relations perspective. This could get ugly. And let's stop parsing words, Mr. President - another terrorist act surely brings conclusion to your described "Over-Seas Contingency Plans," and resumes the "War on Terror" which our enemies have continued to wage in lieu of the US' refusal to actively participate. Your predecessor has some useful notes on the subject, please read them.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2014 18:56:15 GMT -5
www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2696366/It-looks-like-terrible-tragedy-Obama-briefly-addresses-Malaysian-plane-crash-emerges-23-U-S-passengers-board.htmlYou've got to be kidding me. Now I know what it's like to have lived under Carter. The shot down Malaysian passenger jet transcends a "tragedy", Obama. Whether that specific plane was the intended target is moot, either way there are severe ramifications from an international relations perspective. This could get ugly. And let's stop parsing words, Mr. President - another terrorist act surely brings conclusion to your described "Over-Seas Contingency Plans," and resumes the "War on Terror" which our enemies have continued to wage in lieu of the US' refusal to actively participate. Your predecessor has some useful notes on the subject, please read them. REAGAN WOULDA ALREADY SENT A MESSAGE  A BIG ONE |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2014 19:00:06 GMT -5
Living under carter was the worst ... Not only was our economy at the pits ... The soviets dominated us ... There was a pic in the New York Times showing Uncle Sam limp getting choked out by the Russian bear .....THEN CAME RON ! NO MORE CHOKE OUT BACK TO WAR EAGLE AND KICKIN ASS ......REAGAN ....TAKE ME THERE IF YOU DIDNT LIVE UNDER CARTER , YOU HAVE NO IDEA WHY REAGAN IS SO BELOVED ,
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2014 19:06:59 GMT -5
REAGAN BELIEVED IN WHAT I BELIEVE .... MIGHT MAKES RIGHT AND WHEN YOU HAVE MIGHT ...NOBODY FUCKS WITH YOU ,WHY WE HAD A GREAT 8 YEAR RUN ..THESE HOLIER THAN THOU LIBERALS DONT GET THAT , THERE TO YOUNG , OR TO DUMB ...IF YOU WERE ALIVE THEN AND KNEW HOW BAD IT WAS YOU WOULD UNDERSTAND WHY REAGAN RULED
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Jul 17, 2014 20:26:23 GMT -5
REAGAN BELIEVED IN WHAT I BELIEVE .... MIGHT MAKES RIGHT AND WHEN YOU HAVE MIGHT ...NOBODY FUCKS WITH YOU ,WHY WE HAD A GREAT 8 YEAR RUN ..THESE HOLIER THAN THOU LIBERALS DONT GET THAT , THERE TO YOUNG , OR TO DUMB ...IF YOU WERE ALIVE THEN AND KNEW HOW BAD IT WAS YOU WOULD UNDERSTAND WHY REAGAN RULED Putting my response here - Basically, Obama doesn't know how to lead, and I think he came to the presidency thinking he didn't need to, that rhetoric alone would allow the “....the moment when the rise of the oceans began to slow, and our planet began to heal.” What nonsense. It was clear in 2008 that all he is is an empty suited demagogue. No convictions. No leadership skills. Now I know what it was like to live under the incompetence and aloofness of Carter with the cynicism and secrecy of Nixon. All of this is now so transparent, which is what Obama professed from the very start...Transparency. |
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Jul 17, 2014 20:34:36 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2014 20:39:41 GMT -5
REAGAN BELIEVED IN WHAT I BELIEVE .... MIGHT MAKES RIGHT AND WHEN YOU HAVE MIGHT ...NOBODY FUCKS WITH YOU ,WHY WE HAD A GREAT 8 YEAR RUN ..THESE HOLIER THAN THOU LIBERALS DONT GET THAT , THERE TO YOUNG , OR TO DUMB ...IF YOU WERE ALIVE THEN AND KNEW HOW BAD IT WAS YOU WOULD UNDERSTAND WHY REAGAN RULED Putting my response here - Basically, Obama doesn't know how to lead, and I think he came to the presidency thinking he didn't need to, that rhetoric alone would allow the “....the moment when the rise of the oceans began to slow, and our planet began to heal.” What nonsense. It was clear in 2008 that all he is is an empty suited demagogue. No convictions. No leadership skills. Now I know what it was like to live under the incompetence and aloofness of Carter with the cynicism and secrecy of Nixon. All of this is now so transparent, which is what Obama professed from the very start...Transparency. Nixon only crime ... He got caught .. Foreign policy wise he was as good as it gets ... He went to china , he started detente , he started SALT ( strategic arms limitations treaty ) he made Breshnev look human , ... Nixon was paranoid why he bugged the watergate , he would have won by the same landslide he did , ... Kids today watch left wing bullshit about him and spout shit line they were there......I was there , Nixon was a damn good president |
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Jul 17, 2014 21:07:18 GMT -5
Putting my response here - Basically, Obama doesn't know how to lead, and I think he came to the presidency thinking he didn't need to, that rhetoric alone would allow the “....the moment when the rise of the oceans began to slow, and our planet began to heal.” What nonsense. It was clear in 2008 that all he is is an empty suited demagogue. No convictions. No leadership skills. Now I know what it was like to live under the incompetence and aloofness of Carter with the cynicism and secrecy of Nixon. All of this is now so transparent, which is what Obama professed from the very start...Transparency. Nixon only crime ... He got caught .. Foreign policy wise he was as good as it gets ... He went to china , he started detente , he started SALT ( strategic arms limitations treaty ) he made Breshnev look human , ... Nixon was paranoid why he bugged the watergate , he would have won by the same landslide he did , ... Kids today watch left wing bullshit about him and spout shit line they were there......I was there , Nixon was a damn good president Obama's presidency is all over, which would be fine with me if it wasn't for the fact that he's taking America and the rest of the world down with him. It astounds me. How can a man who mocked Bush's response at Katrina be seen so ineptly handling the illegal immigration flood at the border AND make jokes 40 seconds into a press conference where he mentioned today's event as a "tragedy"? HOW CAN HE BE SO ALOOF WHEN HE PERCEIVED HIS PREDECSSOR OF BEING ALOOF. HOW IS THAT EVEN POSSIBLE? LIKE IF I SAW eva Fawkes TURN LEFT AND WALK INTO A WALL, THEREBY I NOW KNOW TURNING LEFT WOULD MAKE ME WALK INTO A WALL, AND I TURN LEFT ANYWAY KNOWING THAT, HOW....WHY....WHAT....I DON'T EVEN KNOWWWWWWWWWW WHAT THE FUCK IS HE DOING? |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2014 21:14:42 GMT -5
Nixon only crime ... He got caught .. Foreign policy wise he was as good as it gets ... He went to china , he started detente , he started SALT ( strategic arms limitations treaty ) he made Breshnev look human , ... Nixon was paranoid why he bugged the watergate , he would have won by the same landslide he did , ... Kids today watch left wing bullshit about him and spout shit line they were there......I was there , Nixon was a damn good president Obama's presidency is all over, which would be fine with me if it wasn't for the fact that he's taking America and the rest of the world down with him. I honestly don't know who was more inept carter or Obama .....WHAT PISSES ME OFF IS THE MTV GENERATION VOTED HIM IN SIIMPLY FOR THE COLOR OF HIS SKIN ....IF HE WAS WHITE HE NEVER WOULD HAVE CARRIED THE MTV VOTE BY 90 percent ...AND IF HE WAS WHITE HE NEVER WOULD HAVE GOTTEN RE ELECTED .THATS A FACT ....CARTER GOT BEAT IN THE SECOND WORST LANDSLIDE IN HISTORY BECAUSE HE WAS INEPT ....OBAMA GOT 4 MORE YEARS CAUSE HES THE FIRST ... AGAIN FACT .... I DONT CARE IF OBAMA IS WHITE , YELLOW , BLACK ,,RED , HES THE FUCKING WORST ...BUT IF U SAY THAT YOURVLABELED RACIST ...FUCK THAT ..IM SAYING IT , HE WAS ELECTED CAUSE HE WAS BLACK THE LIBERAL MEDIA , CNN , GOT OUT THE YOUNG VOTE TO ELECT A PERSON OF COLOR ... I COULD CARE LESS , I VOTED FOR DINKINS ( first black NYC mayor ) SO THIS AINT RACIST ...ITS REVERSE RACISM OBAMA GETS AWAY WITH FUCKING UP THIS COUNTRY BECAUSE THE MEDIA IS AFRAID OF BEING LABELED RACIST .....FACT |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2014 21:17:16 GMT -5
The man had no credentials and cane from Chicago back room politics , he was a junior senator ....IF HE WAS WHITE THE PARTY NEVER WOULD HAVE SUPPORTED A JUNIOR SENATOR FOR PRESIDENT
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2014 21:17:43 GMT -5
THE YOUNG KIDS HERE CAN HATE ...BUT ITS ALL FACT
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Jul 17, 2014 21:41:38 GMT -5
This event is just very eerily reminiscent of how sparks were initiated for both WWI and WWII (the former more than the latter, which even more eerily "celebrates" it's centennial this year) - which was the basis for my very first post on this. There's a lot going on. Let's hope to fuck we learned from history and this isn't mishandled. As I said in my first post --- this could get VERY ugly.
My first thought when I saw the headline: Major wars have been started over similar incidents. This is very bad.
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Jul 17, 2014 22:05:24 GMT -5
Mods, please move all relevant posts regarding this here. This is going to be in the news cycle for a long time. This is very bad, with very real implications.
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Post by Elie De Beaufour 🐴 on Jul 17, 2014 22:24:07 GMT -5
Why were they flying over a war zone is my question? Nothing has stabilized there
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Post by Rain on Jul 18, 2014 2:24:30 GMT -5
Obama's presidency is all over, which would be fine with me if it wasn't for the fact that he's taking America and the rest of the world down with him. I honestly don't know who was more inept carter or Obama .....WHAT PISSES ME OFF IS THE MTV GENERATION VOTED HIM IN SIIMPLY FOR THE COLOR OF HIS SKIN ....IF HE WAS WHITE HE NEVER WOULD HAVE CARRIED THE MTV VOTE BY 90 percent ...AND IF HE WAS WHITE HE NEVER WOULD HAVE GOTTEN RE ELECTED .THATS A FACT ....CARTER GOT BEAT IN THE SECOND WORST LANDSLIDE IN HISTORY BECAUSE HE WAS INEPT ....OBAMA GOT 4 MORE YEARS CAUSE HES THE FIRST ... AGAIN FACT .... I DONT CARE IF OBAMA IS WHITE , YELLOW , BLACK ,,RED , HES THE FUCKING WORST ...BUT IF U SAY THAT YOURVLABELED RACIST ...FUCK THAT ..IM SAYING IT , HE WAS ELECTED CAUSE HE WAS BLACK THE LIBERAL MEDIA , CNN , GOT OUT THE YOUNG VOTE TO ELECT A PERSON OF COLOR ... I COULD CARE LESS , I VOTED FOR DINKINS ( first black NYC mayor ) SO THIS AINT RACIST ...ITS REVERSE RACISM OBAMA GETS AWAY WITH FUCKING UP THIS COUNTRY BECAUSE THE MEDIA IS AFRAID OF BEING LABELED RACIST .....FACT       |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 18, 2014 4:49:53 GMT -5
Why your a genius man ....love it ! |
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Jul 18, 2014 7:50:58 GMT -5
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Post by eva Fawkes on Jul 18, 2014 8:25:50 GMT -5
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Post by Rain on Jul 18, 2014 14:28:27 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Jul 18, 2014 15:05:27 GMT -5
Once again ... Brilliant
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Post by spaneli on Jul 18, 2014 16:39:25 GMT -5
I would say Obama has most disappointed me with the NSA spying and Drones. I agree with RainHowever, I would completely disagree with kalas on the belief that somehow Reagan had the magic key to Russia. Reagan did nothing policy wise that previous presidents since Eisenhower had done. He may have had the sound bites, but just as Clinton was lucky to have the economy of the 90's (where I would say he did nothing different than H.W. Bush) he benefited from the work his predecessors. The Berlin wall didn't call because Reagan said tear down this wall, it fell because the Russia was weakened economically through years of hard sanctions and policy making (nothing that Obama is doing differently I might add). The plain fact of the matter, is that American foreign policy has barely changed since Eisenhower left office. The same edicts and many of the same programs are still run, though under different names. Presidents may change small details such as how much to give one nation in aid or arms, but the large foreign policy picture has barely changed; whether it's Reagan, LBJ, Carter, H.W. Bush, George Bush, or Obama. It's the same letter head different name. Next, travel to inner city neighborhood and find how many people love Reagan there. You know, the places that fell behind under his policies and still haven't recovered, like cutting public housing. Most minorities to do not love Reagan. While there was a widening of the economic gap during Carter because of a poor economy, there was a far larger widening because of economic policies that inhibited the poor and minorities. But you know, Reagan was so beloved. Lastly, to say that the "only" reason the MTV generation voted for Obama is because of the color of his skin is b.s. and it ignores the contours of when he ran. He was elected because he ran against against a candidate who seemed to old to serve and sometimes too soft to lead in McCain. He won because his main challengers in the primary were a young Senator in Edwards who was too left wing to win and a candidate in Clinton was too out of touch with the middle class and had voted for the Iraq war. He won because he was an eloquent speaker, not something gotten because of the color of his skin. He won because he had not voted for the Iraq war. He was re-elected because he ran against a former Governor who never provided a plan. And he won re-election because while the economy tumbled under Carter to it's lowest levels since the depression, Obama could fall back on the fact that the economy had already begun to tumble before he came into office and had recovered enough by the time he ran again, while dealing with a Congress that had its lowest approval ratings in its history. Those things having nothing to do with the color of his skin. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 18, 2014 16:56:09 GMT -5
My young son I admire your essay ...which is your forte ....... But you are Fucking clueless cause u weren't there ....REAGAN HAD A MYSTIQUE WHEN REAGAN WAS AT YOUR BELOVED CHICAGO CUB GAME AND SAID MR PRESIDENT ...THE MISSLES ARE IN THE AIR ..GORBACHAV SHIT IN HIS PANTS ..... THE MAN RESTORED DIG ITY AND RESPECT TO THE USA ..BUT U JUST READ THE BOOKS .,,U WERE NOT THERE ..... HARREY CARRY ..REAGAN ..IT WAS BRILLIANT ... IT SPOOKEC GORBACHAV ..AND ITS IN HIS MEMOIRS
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Post by Deleted on Jul 18, 2014 16:58:14 GMT -5
You can recite essays all u want spaneli it's your thing I FUCKUNG LIVED IT AND YOU ARE CLUELESS CAUSE U JUST READ BOOKS ....BIASED AT THAT YOU READ AND BELIEVE ... WHY AMERICA is in toilet kids like you who think you know history ... cause u read books or listen to CNN ..... I lived it .. You my friend are clueless ...but u write a great essay . It's wrong but good |
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Jul 18, 2014 17:26:18 GMT -5
Ronald Reagan is so revered because he was an actual leader. He championed "Peace through Strength", unlike this administrations' "Leading from Behind" and the official (yes, OFFICIAL: dailycaller.com/2014/06/01/white-house-aides-reveal-obama-doctrine-dont-do-stupid-shit/) Obama doctrine of "Don't do stupid shit." Whoops... How America has fallen. Instead of Richard Nixon, Henry Kissinger, Zbigniew Brzezinski, Ronald Reagan, Nancy Reagan, Colin Powell, Conda-Liza Rice, we now have Harry Reid, Nancy Pelosi, Hilary Clinton, Michelle Obama, & Barrack Obama. God have mercy on this fallen nation. I'm going to stop here. For now. |
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