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Post by AppleScruff on Feb 22, 2022 14:17:48 GMT -5
I've always liked Heathen Chemistry even though it's not their best album. And, as for The Strokes I think that they're a shit band with only a couple of good songs. This is right up there as the biggest shit take I’ve seen on here. The Strokes are probably the most influential band of the last 20 years. Everyone is entitled to their opinion but not a great insight to suggest they “only had a couple of good songs”. |
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Post by tiger40 on Feb 22, 2022 14:18:56 GMT -5
I've always liked Heathen Chemistry even though it's not their best album. And, as for The Strokes I think that they're a shit band with only a couple of good songs. This is right up there as the biggest shit take I’ve seen on here. The Strokes are probably the most influential band of the last 20 years. Everyone is entitled to their opinion but not a great insight to suggest they “only had a couple of good songs”. Really? Well, that's only your opinion. |
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Post by shadowplay on Feb 22, 2022 14:32:41 GMT -5
This is right up there as the biggest shit take I’ve seen on here. The Strokes are probably the most influential band of the last 20 years. Everyone is entitled to their opinion but not a great insight to suggest they “only had a couple of good songs”. Really? Well, that's only your opinion. I'm barely aware of them and have never heard anyone mention them in conversation. Maybe it's an American thing I dunno but from my UK perspective most people don't give a shit about them |
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Post by tiger40 on Feb 22, 2022 14:59:13 GMT -5
Really? Well, that's only your opinion. I'm barely aware of them and have never heard anyone mention them in conversation. Maybe it's an American thing I dunno but from my UK perspective most people don't give a shit about them Well you're not missing much that's for sure. |
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Post by AppleScruff on Feb 22, 2022 15:01:25 GMT -5
This is right up there as the biggest shit take I’ve seen on here. The Strokes are probably the most influential band of the last 20 years. Everyone is entitled to their opinion but not a great insight to suggest they “only had a couple of good songs”. Really? Well, that's only your opinion. Any debate about Heathen Chemistry and music in 2002 would mention The Strokes, which a number of posts have already alluded to. They changed the musical landscape in 2001 and although Oasis were going for a “back to basics” approach on HC, the comparison was stark. Oasis had relatively quickly become the unfashionable and dated band. For me and many others, it was possible to love both. It’s also fine to not like The Strokes. Each to their own. But there is a lot to be said about them….. their impact on fashion, their influence on bands that followed. To say “they’re shit” 🤣. What is the point. |
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Post by AppleScruff on Feb 22, 2022 15:05:49 GMT -5
Really? Well, that's only your opinion. I'm barely aware of them and have never heard anyone mention them in conversation. Maybe it's an American thing I dunno but from my UK perspective most people don't give a shit about them I’m from Scotland mate, not NYC or the Sunset Strip. From a U.K. perspective? If there was no Strokes then The Libertines probably don’t get signed. Certainly their debut album would be very different. We maybe have no Arctic Monkeys. Franz Ferdinand. Go wider and you have virtually every major band of the 00s owing some debt to The Strokes. The Killers, Kings of Leon, Yeah Yeah Yeahs. Vines etc This is music history, it’s pretty widely understood |
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Post by shadowplay on Feb 22, 2022 16:11:06 GMT -5
I'm barely aware of them and have never heard anyone mention them in conversation. Maybe it's an American thing I dunno but from my UK perspective most people don't give a shit about them I’m from Scotland mate, not NYC or the Sunset Strip. From a U.K. perspective? If there was no Strokes then The Libertines probably don’t get signed. Certainly their debut album would be very different. We maybe have no Arctic Monkeys. Franz Ferdinand. Go wider and you have virtually every major band of the 00s owing some debt to The Strokes. The Killers, Kings of Leon, Yeah Yeah Yeahs. Vines etc This is music history, it’s pretty widely understood tldr post punk bands Oh shit,I fucked up my reply because of my boring opinions and wireless keyboard....You do you man and enjoy your bands, I wish you nothing but happiness, music is supposed to make us all happy, I don't like the Strokes but who cares, my opinion is bullshit anyway. Long live post punk and goth rock, listen to Drab Majesty, Cold Cave and Body of Light if you can!!! But if not who cares, you like your music and thats cool. I love how subjective this all is, I have a mate who hates Radiohead, can you imagine that mentality? Bonkers I know but it exists and we should respect peoples opinions |
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Post by garylineker on Feb 22, 2022 22:17:31 GMT -5
There is absolutely no doubt Heathen Chemistry gets way too hard a time on here and the people that don't like it really like to create this enforced opinion that it's the worst thing the world has ever listened to. It's a bit draining at times.
The facts are it had 4 great singles on and in Little By Little and Stop Crying Your Heart out had the last 2 Oasis songs to truly enter the public consciousness.
Yes, it's frustrating that SOTSOG bombed that much that Noel reverted back to the more traditional Oasis, but at the same time it's far from a disaster either.
As for being "unfashionable". They were still playing huge stadiums and selling them out all over the world. Yes, they weren't as popular with teenagers but almost every band goes through that 10 years on. They've now recaptured that 30 years on so that's no big deal.
The hyperbole used on this forum sometimes does make me laugh.
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Post by Sadie on Feb 23, 2022 13:06:48 GMT -5
There is absolutely no doubt Heathen Chemistry gets way too hard a time on here and the people that don't like it really like to create this enforced opinion that it's the worst thing the world has ever listened to. It's a bit draining at times. The facts are it had 4 great singles on and in Little By Little and Stop Crying Your Heart out had the last 2 Oasis songs to truly enter the public consciousness. Yes, it's frustrating that SOTSOG bombed that much that Noel reverted back to the more traditional Oasis, but at the same time it's far from a disaster either. As for being "unfashionable". They were still playing huge stadiums and selling them out all over the world. Yes, they weren't as popular with teenagers but almost every band goes through that 10 years on. They've now recaptured that 30 years on so that's no big deal. The hyperbole used on this forum sometimes does make me laugh. Finally someone said it! HC arguably had some of the strongest singles of their 00s period and as you said, the last 2 to enter the public consciousness were from that album so that says a lot. Plus they sounded incredible live in 2002 as well so even if they didn't sustain the popularity they once had it's hardly like the band hit rock bottom |
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Post by tiger40 on Feb 23, 2022 14:15:35 GMT -5
There is absolutely no doubt Heathen Chemistry gets way too hard a time on here and the people that don't like it really like to create this enforced opinion that it's the worst thing the world has ever listened to. It's a bit draining at times. The facts are it had 4 great singles on and in Little By Little and Stop Crying Your Heart out had the last 2 Oasis songs to truly enter the public consciousness. Yes, it's frustrating that SOTSOG bombed that much that Noel reverted back to the more traditional Oasis, but at the same time it's far from a disaster either. As for being "unfashionable". They were still playing huge stadiums and selling them out all over the world. Yes, they weren't as popular with teenagers but almost every band goes through that 10 years on. They've now recaptured that 30 years on so that's no big deal. The hyperbole used on this forum sometimes does make me laugh. Yeah, I agree about the singles from Heathen Chemistry and have always liked them. Probably more so than say Lyla from Don’t Believe The Truth (which isn't one of their best anyway). |
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Post by Aman on Feb 23, 2022 14:22:18 GMT -5
It was a successful period, no doubting that and it got Oasis back into the public consciousness and the singles obviously did well. I don't think anyone's doubted it was a successful era for Oasis. (As in the overall opinion of the forum)
But, it really depends how much you like the singles as to how you view the album. Little By Little and THT I've never minded, good songs without ever loving them. Songbird is OK and SCHYO meh.
Which then leaves BOADC which I like though again not great.
And the rest of the songs are awful.
No matter how much you love the singles, this is an album with FON, Hung, AQP (instrumental or not still wtf is this lol), Probably, SIL and BM. I mean these are horrendous songs not just when it comes to Oasis in their prime but horrendous songs period.
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Post by mkoasis on Feb 23, 2022 23:49:58 GMT -5
There is absolutely no doubt Heathen Chemistry gets way too hard a time on here and the people that don't like it really like to create this enforced opinion that it's the worst thing the world has ever listened to. It's a bit draining at times. The facts are it had 4 great singles on and in Little By Little and Stop Crying Your Heart out had the last 2 Oasis songs to truly enter the public consciousness. Yes, it's frustrating that SOTSOG bombed that much that Noel reverted back to the more traditional Oasis, but at the same time it's far from a disaster either. As for being "unfashionable". They were still playing huge stadiums and selling them out all over the world. Yes, they weren't as popular with teenagers but almost every band goes through that 10 years on. They've now recaptured that 30 years on so that's no big deal. The hyperbole used on this forum sometimes does make me laugh. I’d agree with that. It’s not a great album but it’s far from the complete disaster it’s made out to be. Plus, we got one of their best tours from this album cycle too. |
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Post by mkoasis on Feb 23, 2022 23:51:28 GMT -5
I also want to say that I’ll always have some love for HIABP. It’s great live but the album version, for whatever reason, is one of my favourite 00s Oasis songs. I just like a lot of things about it.
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