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Post by ruchin on Jul 30, 2013 15:56:43 GMT -5
Hmm.. Why is Mary Appleton cashing in on her daughters situation, seems a bizarre thing to do, you would have thought they wouldn't want their dirty laundry in public.
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Post by cigarsinhell on Jul 30, 2013 17:32:05 GMT -5
We dont need idiots misreading things! If you read the article, it's merely quoting Liam's current scenario with his management PA - as a parallel to this other case. Liam is not involved. Of course he's not. But that's the whole POINT of the thing. You think anyone would read this dry article WITHOUT tying Liam's name to it?
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Post by cigarsinhell on Jul 30, 2013 17:48:16 GMT -5
Nic knows where Liam is. She should walk into HER house and confront him face to face. He is HER husband, after all. It's nice that Nic's family and friends are supportive of her, but they can't do this for her; she has to make her decisions for herself. The vibe I'm picking up (which may be entirely wrong) is that Liam is drowning in despair and doesn't know what to say or do at this point. He's fucked up royally and he knows it. I really hope their marriage can survive. And Nic should say THIS to Liza (and/or Debbie), in the famous words of Loretta Lynn: "You ain't woman enough to take my man."
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Post by collibosher on Jul 30, 2013 19:30:38 GMT -5
Nic knows where Liam is. She should walk into HER house and confront him face to face. He is HER husband, after all. It's nice that Nic's family and friends are supportive of her, but they can't do this for her; she has to make her decisions for herself. The vibe I'm picking up (which may be entirely wrong) is that Liam is drowning in despair and doesn't know what to say or do at this point. He's fucked up royally and he knows it. I really hope their marriage can survive. And Nic should say THIS to Liza (and/or Debbie), in the famous words of Loretta Lynn: "You ain't woman enough to take my man." I don't agree with this at all. Why should Nicole have any burden here? Liam is the one who cheated on her and then deceived her when it appears he knew all along the relationship produced a daughter. If she never wants to speak to him directly again, that's her right and her business. Personally, I think she was naïve if she really believed Liam would always be faithful to her, but that's not the point. As for Liam drowning in despair, maybe he is, but it probably won't last long. He couldn't have been all that happy in his marriage if he was carrying on behind his wife's back. (and this was very likely not the only time it's happened.) He'll recover and find himself another, maybe younger and dumber partner and the cycle will continue. He really should get a vasectomy though.
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Post by cigarsinhell on Jul 30, 2013 21:10:11 GMT -5
Surely Nicole didn't go into this marriage believing Liam would never cheat on her. He's Liam Gallagher, what did she EXPECT? He was still married to Patsy when Nic shacked up with him. If a guy will cheat on one woman, he'll cheat on all of them. But even if he WAS bored with Nic and fancied "broadening his horizons", he wouldn't want to hurt his kids. Liza was the 'ho who happened to be in New York, she saw he was a moron and an easy payday; she should have just asked for the money up front like an honest prostitute instead of going after it after the fact. I believe Liam was stupid, but didn't INTEND to hurt his wife and wreck his marriage. He wanted to "have his cake and eat it, too." This baby wasn't his idea and Liza probably told him she was protected. But after entrapment and extortion, is he going to submit to blackmail, too? He's in a no-win situation. Hopefully, Liam and Nic will persevere through this and be stronger than ever because of it. If his marriage is destroyed and he survives that terrible divorce process without drinking himself into an early grave, we'll all have to lock away our daughters because he'll definitely go Viking.
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Post by collibosher on Jul 31, 2013 0:19:44 GMT -5
Surely Nicole didn't go into this marriage believing Liam would never cheat on her. He's Liam Gallagher, what did she EXPECT? He was still married to Patsy when Nic shacked up with him. If a guy will cheat on one woman, he'll cheat on all of them. But even if he WAS bored with Nic and fancied "broadening his horizons", he wouldn't want to hurt his kids. Liza was the 'ho who happened to be in New York, she saw he was a moron and an easy payday; she should have just asked for the money up front like an honest prostitute instead of going after it after the fact. I believe Liam was stupid, but didn't INTEND to hurt his wife and wreck his marriage. He wanted to "have his cake and eat it, too." This baby wasn't his idea and Liza probably told him she was protected. But after entrapment and extortion, is he going to submit to blackmail, too? He's in a no-win situation. Hopefully, Liam and Nic will persevere through this and be stronger than ever because of it. If his marriage is destroyed and he survives that terrible divorce process without drinking himself into an early grave, we'll all have to lock away our daughters because he'll definitely go Viking. Or maybe he was just too drunk to care one way or the other? As far as blaming the mother of the baby for everything, that's nonsense. It's likely Liam wasn't raped; he had a choice. He also had an option to use his own contraception. He chose to have sex with a woman who wasn't his wife and it's hardly extortion to expect him to pay to support his new daughter in the same manner his other children are being supported. I also find this "top Dad" notion about Liam somewhat dubious. A top Dad would have tried to have been a part of his oldest daughter's life. And I doubt he gave his sons a thought when he started this affair. I think any attempt to paint Liam as a victim is doomed to fail. He's a spoiled rock star with substance abuse issues and if the marriage is over it's because of his choices. On a positive note though, as this is clearly Liam being Liam, I'm sure he'll pull through just fine.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 31, 2013 1:23:39 GMT -5
Surely Nicole didn't go into this marriage believing Liam would never cheat on her. He's Liam Gallagher, what did she EXPECT? He was still married to Patsy when Nic shacked up with him. If a guy will cheat on one woman, he'll cheat on all of them. But even if he WAS bored with Nic and fancied "broadening his horizons", he wouldn't want to hurt his kids. Liza was the 'ho who happened to be in New York, she saw he was a moron and an easy payday; she should have just asked for the money up front like an honest prostitute instead of going after it after the fact. I believe Liam was stupid, but didn't INTEND to hurt his wife and wreck his marriage. He wanted to "have his cake and eat it, too." This baby wasn't his idea and Liza probably told him she was protected. But after entrapment and extortion, is he going to submit to blackmail, too? He's in a no-win situation. Hopefully, Liam and Nic will persevere through this and be stronger than ever because of it. If his marriage is destroyed and he survives that terrible divorce process without drinking himself into an early grave, we'll all have to lock away our daughters because he'll definitely go Viking. this is the best impression of a GDForever post i have ever seen!
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Post by cigarsinhell on Jul 31, 2013 2:51:52 GMT -5
Of course Liam is no victim here. As you say, he's a spoiled rock star with substance issues. The thing is: EVERYONE already knows that. Liza Ghorbani knew it before she dangled the tuna under his drunken bloodhound nose. What woman with ANY honor or self-respect would go wallowing with a married man? ANY married man? Certainly Liam wasn't raped, but neither was Ghorbani. He broke it off, he didn't WANT the pregnancy. In America, Liza has access to the finest abortion facilities American taxpayer money can buy. Liam would probably have even paid for that, AND given her a big fat wad of hush money. But that wasn't enough for our Star-Spangled Gold-Digger: She wanted to be set for LIFE. Why settle for a measly few thousand bucks when you can milk this rich idiot for MILLIONS for two decades? What little evidence we DO have points to the fact that going through with the pregnancy and giving birth was Ghorbani's decision ALONE. She saw this john coming from two miles away and she'll earn a fortune off this trick.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 31, 2013 3:24:45 GMT -5
Of course Liam is no victim here. As you say, he's a spoiled rock star with substance issues. The thing is: EVERYONE already knows that. Liza Ghorbani knew it before she dangled the tuna under his drunken bloodhound nose. What woman with ANY honor or self-respect would go wallowing with a married man? ANY married man? Certainly Liam wasn't raped, but neither was Ghorbani. He broke it off, he didn't WANT the pregnancy. In America, Liza has access to the finest abortion facilities American taxpayer money can buy. Liam would probably have even paid for that, AND given her a big fat wad of hush money. But that wasn't enough for our Star-Spangled Gold-Digger: She wanted to be set for LIFE. Why settle for a measly few thousand bucks when you can milk this rich idiot for MILLIONS for two decades? What little evidence we DO have points to the fact that going through with the pregnancy and giving birth was Ghorbani's decision ALONE. She saw this john coming from two miles away and she'll earn a fortune off this trick. WHO THE FUCK ARE YOU TO DETERMINE A UNBORN CHILD'S LIFE?
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Post by Bruno on Jul 31, 2013 3:55:00 GMT -5
No need to take drugs, just read through this thread and you'll feel your head getting light.
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Post by Mr. Bigglesworth on Jul 31, 2013 3:59:35 GMT -5
it's getting funny how a few forum members write about Liam, Nicole and Liza like they really would be close to them or they would have been part of the act, that maybe ruined Liam's and Nicole's Marriage. don't really get the hate for Liza here, you all don't know if Liam was drunk, and even if, this would be no excuse. Liam and Liza made a mistake in the end, and I say this as a loyal Gallagher-fan. I respect what Liam does music wise, but his life outside music is his business and who am I to judge these people.
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Post by pphillipsukuk on Jul 31, 2013 4:00:36 GMT -5
Of course Liam is no victim here. As you say, he's a spoiled rock star with substance issues. The thing is: EVERYONE already knows that. Liza Ghorbani knew it before she dangled the tuna under his drunken bloodhound nose. What woman with ANY honor or self-respect would go wallowing with a married man? ANY married man? Certainly Liam wasn't raped, but neither was Ghorbani. He broke it off, he didn't WANT the pregnancy. In America, Liza has access to the finest abortion facilities American taxpayer money can buy. Liam would probably have even paid for that, AND given her a big fat wad of hush money. But that wasn't enough for our Star-Spangled Gold-Digger: She wanted to be set for LIFE. Why settle for a measly few thousand bucks when you can milk this rich idiot for MILLIONS for two decades? What little evidence we DO have points to the fact that going through with the pregnancy and giving birth was Ghorbani's decision ALONE. She saw this john coming from two miles away and she'll earn a fortune off this trick. The worst post I have ever read on this forum. Unbelievable.
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Post by cigarsinhell on Jul 31, 2013 4:01:25 GMT -5
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Post by Underneath the sky on Jul 31, 2013 5:47:49 GMT -5
If you want to take a positive from this, Liam getting a divorce will probably mean more Beady Eye albums and releases of Oasis material.
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Post by Shockmaster on Jul 31, 2013 6:16:47 GMT -5
What if they never had sex, and Liam has superspunk that survived after he had a wank and cleaned it up with toilet paper that was then recycled ... Then Liza used that same bit of recycled spunkpaper to wipe her fanny, and now she has a baby because of it? Liam is only down because it's all a massive misunderstanding. He can't get a shag off his wife because they're not talking, he's too loyal to shag someone else, and he's never having a wank again, because he learned his lesson...
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Post by justaroundmidnight on Jul 31, 2013 7:35:30 GMT -5
"Smoke it, don't drop it...right 'till the end"
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Post by ruchin on Jul 31, 2013 7:47:00 GMT -5
Anyone else saying he missed that Jimmy Fallon Show not because he had food poisoning but cos he "overslept"
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Post by thatsmyattitude on Jul 31, 2013 7:48:04 GMT -5
Remember people, rags such as The Sun, Mirror and Daily Mail pull quotes out of thin air. I doubt Mary Appleton has said half the stuff she is alleged to have and as soon as they mention a 'source' read some hack has made it up.
Obviously Liam has fucked up big time and is burying his head in the sand. It is sad as i liked the idea of him being a decent, loving chap under all the bravado. Hopefully he can get himself on track, grow up a bit and stop hurting other people so much, but i won't hold my breath.
We will find out in due course what is actually happened, not that it is anyone's business. I shouldn't take much notice of the red tops in the meantime.
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Post by Nyron Nosworthy on Jul 31, 2013 13:47:53 GMT -5
Am I the only one very bored of all of this?
The number of 'experts' in the personal lives of people they're never likely to meet is staggering
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Post by Deleted on Jul 31, 2013 14:31:27 GMT -5
Am I the only one very bored of all of this? The number of 'experts' in the personal lives of people they're never likely to meet is staggering No but I imagine the other people bored of it had the sense to stay out of the thread.
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Post by Pat Butcher on Jul 31, 2013 14:37:42 GMT -5
Apparently Liam hasn't even bothered to speak to his two sons either for this duration. Top dad my my b0ll0x. He's as much an idiot as his own father.
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Post by defmaybe00 on Jul 31, 2013 14:58:38 GMT -5
No,you can't be an idiot like Tommy
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Post by Ash & Debris on Jul 31, 2013 15:15:23 GMT -5
Apparently Liam hasn't even bothered to speak to his two sons either for this duration. Top dad my my b0ll0x. He's as much an idiot as his own father. You might be on to something there. I wouldn't be surprised if Noel sees a lot of ole Tommy in Liam too and that's why he has distanced himself from both of them. It's clear from the recent Tommy interview that he likes Liam a lot because they're very similar whereas he despises Noel who presumably took more after mom Patsy. '
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Post by pphillipsukuk on Jul 31, 2013 15:19:51 GMT -5
How the bloody hell do any off us know who Liam is and isn't talking too? Just because he isn't talking to his wife doesn't mean he isn't talking to his kids. I'm sure they'll all have mobiles and he will be able to chat to them whenever he wants.
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Post by cigarsinhell on Jul 31, 2013 15:58:39 GMT -5
Liam is a great rock-n-roll singer, but a louse when it comes to women.
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