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Post by NoelsGirlie on May 13, 2013 16:38:03 GMT -5
Uh oh.... Don't think it's right, I think you should stick by your managers
Who do you think will be the next man citeh manager?
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Post by jordan71421 on May 13, 2013 16:42:18 GMT -5
Big mistake on their part, I'm not sure who could take his place
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Post by Lennon2217 on May 13, 2013 16:43:55 GMT -5
Mancini got screwed. This guy delivered a lot for this club.
- Champions League - FA Cup Title - EPL Championship
Not bad for a 3.5 year run. Sure his spendings should have been wiser but City is relevant finally.
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Post by NoelsGirlie on May 13, 2013 16:45:38 GMT -5
Mancini got screwed. This guy delivered a lot for this club. - Champions League - FA Cup Title - EPL Championship Not bad for a 3.5 year run. Sure his spendings should have been wiser but City is relevant finally. Yes, definitely !
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Post by MacaRonic on May 13, 2013 16:49:26 GMT -5
I could see it coming, Mourinho could be the next manager.
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Post by frjdoasis on May 13, 2013 16:50:48 GMT -5
Roberto Mancini ha fatto un grande lavoro. Merita solo elogi.
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Post by jaq515 on May 13, 2013 16:54:10 GMT -5
With that much money flying around they want performance/consistency not just results.. Wigan showed that the FA Cup can still be won by anyone not just rich clubs They only won the league by the skin of their teeth, then a season after utd destroyed them in terms of consistency (even tho citeh destroyed them on when head to head) Champions league... They showed they are streets behind Mancini did a job but not a good enough job, given another few season sure he'd pull it together but thus far he's not been able to control the money grabbing egos at the club and thus inconsistent results
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Post by NoelsGirlie on May 13, 2013 16:54:10 GMT -5
I could see it coming, Mourinho could be the next manager. Oh that would be soooooo good
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Post by Deleted on May 13, 2013 16:56:18 GMT -5
Poor team selection .. Questionable tactics , and a style of play that ownership doesn't approve he won with a huge payroll , I like him alot but its no shock , the red side of Manchester plays brilliant attacking football that blue ownership crave ... They have the funds and even if they give him the ammo it's not i his way to use it properly he loves the Italian way too much
Not saying he deserved it but it was a marriage headed for divorce from the start ...his bad way with some players other than Mario was well noted , time to move one for both
Yes he accomplished alot ...but he had the payroll that other the other city managers did not have ,,, and there is no way his style would survive once city became a player other than domestically .. They will play attacking football next year and Mancini would not be the best manager tactically or selection wise
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Post by Deleted on May 13, 2013 17:00:11 GMT -5
I could see it coming, Mourinho could be the next manager. Macca it's either a return to Chelsea which seems weird or a city run ...interesting he is a control freak which may present a problem
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Post by MacaRonic on May 13, 2013 17:05:08 GMT -5
I could see it coming, Mourinho could be the next manager. Macca it's either a return to Chelsea which seems weird or a city run ...interesting he is a control freak which may present a problem True, but isn't it a managers job to be a control freak? That's why he was so successful. If they bite the bullet and offer him the job with 99% control than he may well take it as it being a fresh start rather than returning to Abramovich.
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Post by NoelsGirlie on May 13, 2013 17:07:30 GMT -5
Macca it's either a return to Chelsea which seems weird or a city run ...interesting he is a control freak which may present a problem True, but isn't it a managers job to be a control freak? That's why he was so successful. If they bite the bullet and offer him the job with 99% control than he may well take it as it being a fresh start rather than returning to Abramovich. I think he'll go back to Chelsea to be honest Then Rafa will step up
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Post by Deleted on May 13, 2013 17:08:22 GMT -5
Macca it's either a return to Chelsea which seems weird or a city run ...interesting he is a control freak which may present a problem True, but isn't it a managers job to be a control freak? That's why he was so successful. If they bite the bullet and offer him the job with 99% control than he may well take it as it being a fresh start rather than returning to Abramovich. No doubt ...but that doesent seem want city want is my point .....? I agree totally , but in Mancini they had a hot head who spared with p,ayers and press Like ...the special one is even more fiery ..I welcome him. But wonder if the board will ?? That's what I was trying to say
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Post by Deleted on May 13, 2013 17:09:23 GMT -5
True, but isn't it a managers job to be a control freak? That's why he was so successful. If they bite the bullet and offer him the job with 99% control than he may well take it as it being a fresh start rather than returning to Abramovich. I think he'll go back to Chelsea to be honest Then Rafa will step up Roman will really be eating crow if this happens
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Post by MacaRonic on May 13, 2013 17:17:30 GMT -5
True, but isn't it a managers job to be a control freak? That's why he was so successful. If they bite the bullet and offer him the job with 99% control than he may well take it as it being a fresh start rather than returning to Abramovich. No doubt ...but that doesent seem want city want is my point .....? I agree totally , but in Mancini they had a hot head who spared with p,ayers and press Like ...the special one is even more fiery ..I welcome him. But wonder if the board will ?? That's what I was trying to say And you're right If Mourinho isn't there next season then that's the reason why he won't -- because multi-billionaire owners who are pumping shit loads of money into their clubs feel the need to have a say about football when they don't know the first thing about football. I suppose they have a right when it's their money but IMO if they want to be successful the manager needs to have total control over who comes in and out. The smaller clubs (ie Everton) have the right idea but don't have the money to back it up.
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Post by rebus on May 13, 2013 17:22:39 GMT -5
Not the right timing but definitely the right decision. All the funds at his disposal, an amazing squad and he wins the league on goal difference and screws up in Europe. He's been very poor considering his resources.
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Post by MacaRonic on May 13, 2013 17:23:14 GMT -5
Then Rafa will step up That could happen but the reason why it probably won't happen is because Rafa has never been successful in the League.
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Post by Deleted on May 13, 2013 17:25:44 GMT -5
No doubt ...but that doesent seem want city want is my point .....? I agree totally , but in Mancini they had a hot head who spared with p,ayers and press Like ...the special one is even more fiery ..I welcome him. But wonder if the board will ?? That's what I was trying to say And you're right If Mourinho isn't there next season then that's the reason why he won't -- because multi-billionaire owners who are pumping shit loads of money into their clubs feel the need to have a say about football when they don't know the first thing about football. I suppose they have a right when it's their money but IMO if they want to be successful the manager needs to have total control over who comes in and out. The smaller clubs (ie Everton) have the right idea but don't have the money to back it up. That's the problem Agreed You know it's the same here , people in New York have very short memories , George Steinbrenner ( R I P ) was a great owner but loved to make baseball decisions and made a mess of it , people seem to forget the Yankee dynasty from 96 thru 2001 was built when Steinbrenner was banned from baseball and the baseball people were able to make baseball decisions without Steinbrenner second guessing There were no more extravagant free agent signings they made shrewd trades they won a World Series without a player hitting over 30 homers , and they won 4 in 6 years or 5 years ... Point is they were allowed to let the people that know the sport run it , when George came back he was not as boisterous but the big spending resumed and only 1 World Series to show for it , yes Steinbrenner gets the credit for that dynasty but he had no hand in it. Alot of people forget that . That's why Mancini , Jose , have problems big egos are now buying footy teams and want to celebrities and influence the game when they should shut it and let the guys that eat , sleep , shit it , do what they pay them for .
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Post by Lennon2217 on May 13, 2013 17:32:23 GMT -5
And you're right If Mourinho isn't there next season then that's the reason why he won't -- because multi-billionaire owners who are pumping shit loads of money into their clubs feel the need to have a say about football when they don't know the first thing about football. I suppose they have a right when it's their money but IMO if they want to be successful the manager needs to have total control over who comes in and out. The smaller clubs (ie Everton) have the right idea but don't have the money to back it up. That's the problem Agreed You know it's the same here , people in New York have very short memories , George Steinbrenner ( R I P ) was a great owner but loved to make baseball decisions and made a mess of it , people seem to forget the Yankee dynasty from 96 thru 2001 was built when Steinbrenner was banned from baseball and the baseball people were able to make baseball decisions without Steinbrenner second guessing There were no more extravagant free agent signings they made shrewd trades they won a World Series without a player hitting over 30 homers , and they won 4 in 6 years or 5 years ... Point is they were allowed to let the people that know the sport run it , when George came back he was not as boisterous but the big spending resumed and only 1 World Series to show for it , yes Steinbrenner gets the credit for that dynasty but he had no hand in it. Alot of people forget that . That's why Mancini , Jose , have problems big egos are now buying footy teams and want to celebrities and influence the game when they should shut it and let the guys that eat , sleep , shit it , do what they pay them for . Kalas you are a little off base with the Yankee/Steinbrenner facts. He was banned from 1990-1992. He was fully back and in charge from 1993 onwards. He had trusted general working under him though (Bob Watson, Gene Michael and Brian Cashman). Great field commanders.
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Post by Deleted on May 13, 2013 17:36:16 GMT -5
You know MacaRonic that's the problem now the bpl is huge biggest in world seen everywhere ...fergie was grandfathered in he had success before it went truly truly global ya know ?? I used to be one of the few who had a footy kit here supporting city Now I see kits everywhere Big money came in and personalities and instant success is needed rather than tactics and shrewd decisions , those are forgotten if you don't win ...united let fergie mold the team and look at the result ...yet that won't happen again ...owners don't get you can let beckham walk away or transfer because it makes footy sense , they just care about how many kits he moves in Asia Pathetic
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Post by Deleted on May 13, 2013 17:37:57 GMT -5
That's the problem Agreed You know it's the same here , people in New York have very short memories , George Steinbrenner ( R I P ) was a great owner but loved to make baseball decisions and made a mess of it , people seem to forget the Yankee dynasty from 96 thru 2001 was built when Steinbrenner was banned from baseball and the baseball people were able to make baseball decisions without Steinbrenner second guessing There were no more extravagant free agent signings they made shrewd trades they won a World Series without a player hitting over 30 homers , and they won 4 in 6 years or 5 years ... Point is they were allowed to let the people that know the sport run it , when George came back he was not as boisterous but the big spending resumed and only 1 World Series to show for it , yes Steinbrenner gets the credit for that dynasty but he had no hand in it. Alot of people forget that . That's why Mancini , Jose , have problems big egos are now buying footy teams and want to celebrities and influence the game when they should shut it and let the guys that eat , sleep , shit it , do what they pay them for . Kalas you are a little off base with the Yankee/Steinbrenner facts. He was banned from 1990-1992. He was fully back and in charge from 1993 onwards. He had trusted general working under him though (Bob Watson, Gene Michael and Brian Cashman). Great field commanders. But the the drafts were ble to be done without his input , the nucleus of a team was allowed to grow without a stupid trade that would most certainly have come I could see jeter being thrown in to get a over the hill pitcher easy
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Post by Deleted on May 13, 2013 17:41:10 GMT -5
I've read and heard many people talk Lennon2217 on talk radio , bars , and newspapers ,as well have seen it like you ... That if Steinbrenner was around that team never would have been born he would have influenced trades and raped the minors where the stars like jetter were that was michaels and watsons big gripe with him
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Post by MacaRonic on May 13, 2013 17:41:15 GMT -5
You know MacaRonic that's the problem now the bpl is huge biggest in world seen everywhere ...fergie was grandfathered in he had success before it went truly truly global ya know ?? I used to be one of the few who had a footy kit here supporting city Now I see kits everywhere Big money came in and personalities and instant success is needed rather than tactics and shrewd decisions , those are forgotten if you don't win ...united let fergie mold the team and look at the result ...yet that won't happen again ...owners don't get you can let beckham walk away or transfer because it makes footy sense , they just care about how many kits he moves in Asia Pathetic Agreed One of the main things that is missing nowadays not just in football but in life is TRUST. No-one trusts anyone anymore. It's all about the Diamonds.
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Post by Lennon2217 on May 13, 2013 17:42:53 GMT -5
Kalas you are a little off base with the Yankee/Steinbrenner facts. He was banned from 1990-1992. He was fully back and in charge from 1993 onwards. He had trusted general working under him though (Bob Watson, Gene Michael and Brian Cashman). Great field commanders. But a It of the drafts were ble to be done without his input , the nucleus of a team was allowed to grow without a stupid trade that would most certainly have come I could see jester being thrown in to get a over the hill pitcher easy Manchester City can only hope that Roberto Mancini was the Buck Showalter in the club's history and a Joe Torre is out there to guide the ship when the waters get deepest and turbulent! Also, the Yankees traded away basically their entire farm system from 1996 to the mid 2000s to acquire top talent (Tino Martinez, Roger Clemens, Chuck Knoblauch, David Justice, etc). Their farm system has been in ruin. Cano was the last home grown Yankee and that was from 2005! As a result of a poor farm system they spent and spent and spent and spent (Giambi, Mussina, AROD, Sheffield, Johnson, Damon, Matsui, Clemens, Pettitte, etc). It didn't always end well for them. 1 Championship in 10 years.
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Post by Deleted on May 13, 2013 17:47:22 GMT -5
But a It of the drafts were ble to be done without his input , the nucleus of a team was allowed to grow without a stupid trade that would most certainly have come I could see jester being thrown in to get a over the hill pitcher easy Manchester City can only hope that Roberto Mancini was the Buck Showalter in the club's history and a Joe Torre is out there to guide the ship when the waters get deepest and turbulent! Also, the Yankees traded away basically their entire farm system from 1996 to the mid 2000s to acquire top talent (Tino Martinez, Roger Clemens, Chuck Knoblauch, David Justice, etc). Their farm system has been in ruin. Cano was the last home grown Yankee and that was from 2005! As a result of a poor farm system they spent and spent and spent and spent (Giambi, Mussina, AROD, Sheffield, Johnson, Damon, Matsui, Clemens, Pettitte, etc). It didn't always end well for them. 1 Championship in 10 years. Can never happen its a different world ..... There can be no show alter at city he be sacked year one when they finish 4 th for playing with young talent and joe torre would sacked once a euro crash followed by no domestic glory ensues ..so is life when you play in the blue half of Manchester , always having to keep up with red half ?its sad but true
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