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Post by RocketMan on May 1, 2012 5:53:12 GMT -5
because wonderwall is the easiest song to cover on guitar you don't play guitar, do you? i do |
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Post by Frank Lee Vulgar on May 1, 2012 6:08:35 GMT -5
Wonderwall is pretty easy to play, especially considering that it sounds really good without any other instruments. It's 5 rather simple chords, sing along to it and there you go...
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Post by jasonsmantra on May 1, 2012 7:17:15 GMT -5
Every bastard on the street singing for money plays wonderwall. You barely even need to be able to play a guitar its so easy
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Post by Teal on May 20, 2012 20:25:02 GMT -5
I guess you could say Oasis did break America if by 'breaking America' you mean they got some radio play. I was a little kid in the 90s but the radio was always on in my house, so when I rediscovered Oasis in the past year or so, I found that I did recognize a few of their bigger hits such as Wonderwall and Champagne Supernova but for the most part I had never heard their music or knew they were even that big of a deal. I thought they were just another alternative rock band who'd had a few well-known singles here and there.. Of the other teens at my school, maybe one in ten would recognize Wonderwall, if anything. But for the most part this band is not well-known anymore. Perhaps it was at one point, but even my father, who used to collect rock albums, had never bought an Oasis one in the 90s. As disappointing as it is, I don't know of any radio station in my city that plays Oasis.. We used to have one awesome station that played soft rock and 90s alternative that you could occasionally hear Wonderwall on, but that's about it.
Overall, I would not say that Oasis 'broke' America for the fact that they had minor success as a alternative rock band but were never at all considered mainstream. Granted, they had some sold-out shows in the 90s, but as an American I've observed that people around me do not listen to this band anymore. And even if they do recognize a song here or there, it's unlikely that they would know of Liam and Noel's stormy relationship that gave them so much fame in England.
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Post by forestfan on Feb 21, 2015 22:40:56 GMT -5
Every bastard on the street singing for money plays wonderwall. You barely even need to be able to play a guitar its so easy People say this and I disagree I think wonderwall is played badly/incorrect by most butchering with no capo on, shitty strumming its not a simple guitar song at all- Columbia three chords is a simple song |
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Post by Lennon2217 on Feb 21, 2015 22:47:18 GMT -5
Oasis was huge in America between the tail end of 1995 and all of 1996. Loads of anticipation for Be Here Now in the summer of 1997 but they failed to make a lasting impression on that album cycle for a variety of reasons (change in trends, bloated album/singles, negative press). It seemed all the good karma from 1996 was lost by fall 1997. By the time SOTSOG came around in February 2000, their commercial footing in America was gone forever. Sure later albums peaked in the top 10 and 5 but they disappeared quickly. No hit singles or albums. All in all, I would say they broke America between 1994 and 1997. Three platinum albums and Wonderwall was literally everywhere in 1996.  |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 21, 2015 22:50:22 GMT -5
Every bastard on the street singing for money plays wonderwall. You barely even need to be able to play a guitar its so easy People say this and I disagree I think wonderwall is played badly/incorrect by most butchering with no capo on, shitty strumming its not a simple guitar song at all- Columbia three chords is a simple song It is a very simple song to play. A capo is essential. The only tricky/interesting bit is the picking in the "all the roads..." pre chorus. But the chord pattern requires that you barely have to move half of your fingers. |
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Post by forestfan on Feb 21, 2015 23:17:47 GMT -5
People say this and I disagree I think wonderwall is played badly/incorrect by most butchering with no capo on, shitty strumming its not a simple guitar song at all- Columbia three chords is a simple song It is a very simple song to play. A capo is essential. The only tricky/interesting bit is the picking in the "all the roads..." pre chorus. But the chord pattern requires that you barely have to move half of your fingers. But you dont get the point its not a song for beginners at all The strumming is not very easy to teach at all surely you get that much? |
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Post by nahuel89p on Feb 21, 2015 23:25:35 GMT -5
I think they didn't... wasn't grunge, their own indie rock, hip-hop, punk rock, etc, the choice of the youth there?
Not to speak about late 90s, when nu metal became THE thing.
I always saw little room for britpop or rock n roll there.
Oasis even supported U2...
I bet chemical brothers had more success
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Post by Lennon2217 on Feb 21, 2015 23:30:58 GMT -5
I think they didn't... wasn't grunge, their own indie rock, hip-hop, punk rock, etc, the choice of the youth there? Not to speak about late 90s, when nu metal became THE thing. I always saw little room for britpop or rock n roll there. For two solid years they broke it. They had platinum albums. Had videos all over MTV, played MTV Unplugged and VMAs. Wonderwall and Supernova were massive radio hits. People all over America knew who they were. I think that says a lot. Even today Americans still know Oasis well. Sadly it's all their negative bullshit but they are embedded in pop culture. You could say the Verve never truly broke America despite a hit single and platinum selling album. They came and went fast partly due to breaking up. |
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Post by nahuel89p on Feb 21, 2015 23:47:15 GMT -5
I think they didn't... wasn't grunge, their own indie rock, hip-hop, punk rock, etc, the choice of the youth there? Not to speak about late 90s, when nu metal became THE thing. I always saw little room for britpop or rock n roll there. For two solid years they broke it. They had platinum albums. Had videos all over MTV, played MTV Unplugged and VMAs. Wonderwall and Supernova were massive radio hits. People all over America knew who they were. I think that says a lot. Even today Americans still know Oasis well. Sadly it's all their negative bullshit but they are embedded in pop culture. You could say the Verve never truly broke America despite a hit single and platinum selling album. They came and went fast partly due to breaking up. Ok, so "breaking america" means just being one more in the bunch. If that's the case, I agree. I just saw, the album Americana by the offspring got 5x platinum. I always regarded it as a massive selling album there. So 4x for wtsmg isn't bad. |
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Post by Lennon2217 on Feb 21, 2015 23:57:20 GMT -5
For two solid years they broke it. They had platinum albums. Had videos all over MTV, played MTV Unplugged and VMAs. Wonderwall and Supernova were massive radio hits. People all over America knew who they were. I think that says a lot. Even today Americans still know Oasis well. Sadly it's all their negative bullshit but they are embedded in pop culture. You could say the Verve never truly broke America despite a hit single and platinum selling album. They came and went fast partly due to breaking up. Ok, so "breaking america" means just being one more in the bunch. If that's the case, I agree. I just saw, the album Americana by the offspring got 5x platinum. I always regarded it as a massive selling album there. So 4x for wtsmg isn't bad. The sales figures no doubt aren't going to be robust compared to other at the same point in time. Things were much different back then. Going platinum was still a big deal. Being a British band a lot was working against them initially. It had been a long time since a British band properly broke America. They became a hold house name, had hit selling albums and are a brand in America to this very day. Plenty of other UK bands never got that far despite the hype or critical reviews (Ocean Colour Scene, Manic Street Preachers, Pulp, Suede, Travis, Gomez, Cornershop, Supergrass, etc). |
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Post by Who Is Andy Bell? on Feb 22, 2015 0:21:28 GMT -5
I bet chemical brothers had more success Interestingly I think Let Forever Be was one of their higher charting US singles. Think it broke the top 30 on the rock charts. And I think Setting Sun was one of their few singles to break the Billboard top 100. According to AllMusic, Live Forever peaked at #2 on the Modern Rock chart, Supersonic at #11. Champagne Supernova and Don't Look Back in Anger both peaked at #10 on the same chart. And Wonderwall hit #1 on that chart (and #8 on the Top 100). D'You Know What I Mean (#4) and Don't Go Away (#5) were also top 10 songs on the Modern Rock chart. That's a pretty good run, then they completely fell off save for Lyla and Shock of the Lightning. They were on the VMAs, on Letterman everytime they toured the US between 1994 and 2000, were on SNL. I think the biggest factor was just how good US music was in the 1990s too. Easy to see why Blur, Oasis etc. didn't do amazing when Pearl Jam, Nirvana, Chili Peppers, Soundgarden, Foo Fighters etc. were also making good music. |
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Post by Lennon2217 on Feb 22, 2015 1:10:39 GMT -5
I bet chemical brothers had more success Interestingly I think Let Forever Be was one of their higher charting US singles. Think it broke the top 30 on the rock charts. And I think Setting Sun was one of their few singles to break the Billboard top 100. According to AllMusic, Live Forever peaked at #2 on the Modern Rock chart, Supersonic at #11. Champagne Supernova and Don't Look Back in Anger both peaked at #10 on the same chart. And Wonderwall hit #1 on that chart (and #8 on the Top 100). D'You Know What I Mean (#4) and Don't Go Away (#5) were also top 10 songs on the Modern Rock chart. That's a pretty good run, then they completely fell off save for Lyla and Shock of the Lightning. They were on the VMAs, on Letterman everytime they toured the US between 1994 and 2000, were on SNL. I think the biggest factor was just how good US music was in the 1990s too. Easy to see why Blur, Oasis etc. didn't do amazing when Pearl Jam, Nirvana, Chili Peppers, Soundgarden, Foo Fighters etc. were also making good music. Don't forget the Smashing Pumpkins. They were alternative kings in America from 1993 to 1998. |
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Post by stevemeister on Feb 22, 2015 3:28:23 GMT -5
For two solid years they broke it. They had platinum albums. Had videos all over MTV, played MTV Unplugged and VMAs. Wonderwall and Supernova were massive radio hits. People all over America knew who they were. I think that says a lot. Even today Americans still know Oasis well. Sadly it's all their negative bullshit but they are embedded in pop culture. You could say the Verve never truly broke America despite a hit single and platinum selling album. They came and went fast partly due to breaking up. Ok, so "breaking america" means just being one more in the bunch. If that's the case, I agree. I just saw, the album Americana by the offspring got 5x platinum. I always regarded it as a massive selling album there. So 4x for wtsmg isn't bad. The Offspring was stopped being good after Ixnay.. |
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Post by nahuel89p on Feb 22, 2015 11:18:29 GMT -5
Ok, so "breaking america" means just being one more in the bunch. If that's the case, I agree. I just saw, the album Americana by the offspring got 5x platinum. I always regarded it as a massive selling album there. So 4x for wtsmg isn't bad. The Offspring was stopped being good after Ixnay.. I don't think so. Americana had MASSIVE hits, and received a lot of radio and mtv play back in the day. It's their best selling album for a reason. I do believe the magic got lost with conspiracy of one, tho. That long progressive punk track at the end of the album was superb. |
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Post by stevemeister on Feb 22, 2015 11:34:22 GMT -5
The only true reason that record got popular was because of their stupid Pretty Fly for a White Guy video.
Their best is and always will be Smash.
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Post by Sternumman on Mar 5, 2015 9:08:27 GMT -5
Wtsmg 4m+ albums sold. Thirteenth best selling album of the year. Three albums in the top five. I think the only foreign bands from 95 to now to have more success are Radiohead, U2, and Coldplay.
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Post by Lennon2217 on Mar 5, 2015 9:13:28 GMT -5
Wtsmg 4m+ albums sold. Thirteenth best selling album of the year. Three albums in the top five. I think the only foreign bands from 95 to now to have more success are Radiohead, U2, and Coldplay. Don't look now but Mumford & Sons are slowly joining the discussion. Two albums and they've combined to sell 5 million plus records in America and won Grammy of The Year in 2012 for Babel. I'm sure their upcoming new album will do the damage as well. Soccer moms LOVE them. |
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Post by World71R on Mar 5, 2015 18:01:30 GMT -5
Wtsmg 4m+ albums sold. Thirteenth best selling album of the year. Three albums in the top five. I think the only foreign bands from 95 to now to have more success are Radiohead, U2, and Coldplay. Don't look now but Mumford & Sons are slowly joining the discussion. Two albums and they've combined to sell 5 million plus records in America and won Grammy of The Year in 2012 for Babel. I'm sure their upcoming new album will do the damage as well. Soccer moms LOVE them. I was about to comment back and say how I wonder how the hell they got so popular, but then you mentioned the soccer moms and it all made sense. They, by far, have got the worst tastes in music, which is basically whatever comes on the radio and nothing more. To all the women on this forum, please, for the love of God & all his Holiness, do not end up being one of them. Be MadFerIt fer life.  |
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Post by Lennon2217 on Mar 5, 2015 19:39:15 GMT -5
I was about to comment back and say how I wonder how the hell they got so popular, but then you mentioned the soccer moms and it all made sense. They, by far, have got the worst tastes in music, which is basically whatever comes on the radio and nothing more. To all the women on this forum, please, for the love of God & all his Holiness, do not end up being one of them. Be MadFerIt fer life. sorry for my stupid question, wtf is soccer mom?  |
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Post by Let It Bleed on Mar 5, 2015 19:44:28 GMT -5
eva's a soccer mom.  God bless.
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Post by Let It Bleed on Mar 5, 2015 19:49:48 GMT -5
I was about to comment back and say how I wonder how the hell they got so popular, but then you mentioned the soccer moms and it all made sense. They, by far, have got the worst tastes in music, which is basically whatever comes on the radio and nothing more. To all the women on this forum, please, for the love of God & all his Holiness, do not end up being one of them. Be MadFerIt fer life. sorry for my stupid question, wtf is soccer mom? A soccer mom is a woman with kids who listens to awful music and only has sex maybe once a year, and is definitely not completely shaved. God bless. |
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Post by Lennon2217 on Mar 5, 2015 19:51:19 GMT -5
sorry for my stupid question, wtf is soccer mom? A soccer mom is a woman with kids who listens to awful music and only has sex maybe once a year, and is definitely not completely shaved. God bless.  |
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Post by eva on Mar 5, 2015 20:19:56 GMT -5
eva's a soccer mom. God bless. God forbid! |
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