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Post by Silence Dogood on Dec 2, 2011 16:46:50 GMT -5
This media slagging match between the 2 has become embarrassing. Liam joking about rathering to "eat shit" is a new low. If they are going to continue it at least make it witty/clever, not retarded shite (pun intended) i get what you're saying but all Liam is doing is a handing a bit of trash-talk. trash talk doesn't need to be "witty" or "clever" by any means. In fact, the nastier, the better, and the more effective it is.
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Post by allah on Dec 2, 2011 16:52:07 GMT -5
This media slagging match between the 2 has become embarrassing. Liam joking about rathering to "eat shit" is a new low. If they are going to continue it at least make it witty/clever, not retarded shite (pun intended) i get what you're saying but all Liam is doing is a handing a bit of trash-talk. trash talk doesn't need to be "witty" or "clever" by any means. In fact, the nastier, the better, and the more effective it is. It's a type of trash talk that 15 year olds do though, Liam is 40 next year. Clever/Witty trash talk is a lot more effective than "I'd rather eat shit" anyway imo
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Post by headshrinker84 on Dec 2, 2011 17:55:33 GMT -5
I admit, I am a stupid little noob on this forum. lgfaver, on the other hand, is....also a stupid little noob on this forum-but one who lives vicariously through Liam G and would serve as his personal ass wiper if given the opportunity. Personally, I'm happy with my lot. hahaha... what an imbecile. do you even know the definition of noob? at least you admit you are in fact a stupid little noob. Im not one though... How the fuck am i living vicariously through Liam ? Sadly you're just showing how much of an ignorant little bitch you are. I have praised Noel and i have criticized Liam in the past. I am pretty unbiased when it comes to this Liam vs Noel nonsense. Do i stick up for Liam when people start saying ridiculous things like Noel's album is 100 times better than BDI's ? Sure but that's just me calling out Noel fanboys. in any case, i am done with you. you're just wasting my time. Normally i don't engage with pathetic noobs like you but i thought i'd make an exception just so i can own the shit out of you How is it ridiculous saying Noel's album is better than BDI's?
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Post by gdforever on Dec 2, 2011 17:58:02 GMT -5
Obviously it's a shit interview because every question pertained to Noel or Oasis. Wouldn't even think I'd have to explain myself.
Liam hasn't said anything new. So despite him being super aggressive there is nothing her to be pissed at Liam about.
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Post by allah on Dec 2, 2011 18:07:29 GMT -5
The karmas will be changing rapidly
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Post by thomaslivesforever on Dec 3, 2011 7:45:17 GMT -5
Thats not really what his comment suggests. It kind of is. He wants the positives of Oasis (the big gigs for WTSMG) without the negatives (being in a band with Noel) He wants to do the big WTSMG gigs...but he wants to pretend that that isn't the same as reforming Oasis. Honestly...from the way that they talk...if people were pissed by the lack of chemistry between Noel and Liam on stage during the DOYS tour...can you imagine the atrocity that that WTSMG tour would be? The most awkward show on the face of the planet. I think thats pretty naive to be honest. From everything Liam has said over the last few weeks it would appear that when saying he can't see himself being in a band with his brother again he's referring to a band in the full sense. Recording albums together, doing a hundred date tours. That sort of thing. But any type of reunion tour would never be like that if relations remain the same. It would be a series of mega gigs. Doesn't really seem complicated to me, Liam will do it, he'd like to for himself and the fans.
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Post by gdforever on Dec 3, 2011 8:51:39 GMT -5
That's the exact same thing just putting a spin on it.
The basics are that Liam wants the big gigs of Oasis without having to be in Oasis and do any of the tough bits. Hence the have his cake and eat it too analogy.
Fact is that most fans of Oasis want Oasis back together not just a single world your for WTSMG. So the idea that he is considering it to make the fans happy is naive. A reunion tour without a proper reunion isn't what most fans want.
I think he is doing it mostly for himself. If he'd been going on the arena tour next year.
You don't have to make it a big thing to want the enjoyable bits without the tough bits. It's only natural. Everyone does it.
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Post by thomaslivesforever on Dec 3, 2011 9:05:18 GMT -5
That's the exact same thing just putting a spin on it. The basics are that Liam wants the big gigs of Oasis without having to be in Oasis and do any of the tough bits. Hence the have his cake and eat it too analogy. Fact is that most fans of Oasis want Oasis back together not just a single world your for WTSMG. So the idea that he is considering it to make the fans happy is naive. A reunion tour without a proper reunion isn't what most fans want. You don't have to make it a big thing to want the enjoyable bits without the tough bits. It's only natural. Everyone does it. Its not really. Its a subtle difference Liam has expressed pretty clearly imo. That doesn't make any sense at all. Liam loved being in Oasis and being in Oasis to him probably constitutes being onstage, singing Oasis songs with the last incarnation of Oasis playing the music. So how would he not be in Oasis? Bizzare... A MG tour wouldn't make Oasis fans happy? Ok then....
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Post by headshrinker84 on Dec 3, 2011 9:36:34 GMT -5
Let's be honest if Noel or Liam do the WTSMG tour it will be for the money. It always has been.
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Post by thomaslivesforever on Dec 3, 2011 9:40:05 GMT -5
Let's be honest if Noel or Liam do the WTSMG tour it will be for the money. It always has been. Because Liam and Noel don't really have any do they? Why would you just assume that?
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Post by ToneBender on Dec 3, 2011 9:50:49 GMT -5
I seem to recall a recent estimate that their combined net worth is about $100 million+. The people I'd accuse of doing it for the money would be Andy and Gem, and even then, I doubt they really need the money. This isn't just about Liam and Noel. Noel's directed quite a bit of vitriol towards Andy, which from what we've heard from both sides, seems more than a bit unwarranted.
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Post by ToneBender on Dec 3, 2011 9:53:57 GMT -5
And to be fair, they could all use to go sit down with a therapist and keep it behind closed doors. When they get asked questions in interviews, it's not like they are incapable of saying "It's in the past, we're dealing with it privately, let's talk about some music now." The first few months were amusing, now it's just getting to be a bit much. A ceasefire would do everyone a bit of good.
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Post by gdforever on Dec 3, 2011 12:43:27 GMT -5
That's the exact same thing just putting a spin on it. The basics are that Liam wants the big gigs of Oasis without having to be in Oasis and do any of the tough bits. Hence the have his cake and eat it too analogy. Fact is that most fans of Oasis want Oasis back together not just a single world your for WTSMG. So the idea that he is considering it to make the fans happy is naive. A reunion tour without a proper reunion isn't what most fans want. You don't have to make it a big thing to want the enjoyable bits without the tough bits. It's only natural. Everyone does it. Its not really. Its a subtle difference Liam has expressed pretty clearly imo. That doesn't make any sense at all. Liam loved being in Oasis and being in Oasis to him probably constitutes being onstage, singing Oasis songs with the last incarnation of Oasis playing the music. So how would he not be in Oasis? Bizzare... A MG tour wouldn't make Oasis fans happy? Ok then.... Is that actually the extent of what they want. No way. They want Oasis back together in the way Liam doesn't. They'll take a single tour if that is what is on offer. As I said...he wants bits of Oasis he likes without the bits he doesn't like. Which basically you have just parroted back to me... How are you disagreeing with me? You just like arguing.
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Post by gdforever on Dec 3, 2011 12:44:07 GMT -5
Let's be honest if Noel or Liam do the WTSMG tour it will be for the money. It always has been. If they do it...it'll be for the ego
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Post by J.B on Dec 3, 2011 13:34:19 GMT -5
Why is it that every thread I go onto is always filled with posts by gdforever which usually consist of her arguing with people?
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Post by allah on Dec 3, 2011 13:38:03 GMT -5
Why is it that every thread I go onto is always filled with posts by gdforever which usually consist of her arguing with people? From what I've seen it's usually her defending herself from some idiots that have seemingly ganged up on her. I must have missed something that has happened around here before I joined since it seems she's being targeted a bit.
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Post by BlueJay on Dec 4, 2011 9:46:13 GMT -5
It they do a WTSMG tour, as gdforever said, it'll be to feed the egos and to indulge in the communal buzz and feeling that they would've got from having 50,000 people sing their songs back to them, something that they would surely miss now. It's got nothing to do with money, between them Noel and Liam have enough dosh to buy a small country like Tahiti or Fiji.
I'm not sure why people are so generally negative to the idea of a WTSMG reunion. If it does happen, we will not only have the chance to see the brothers Gallagher play together again, but we will most likely be able to see them perform songs that they have never played before (if the album in its entirety plan goes ahead intact). It's not like if The Smiths were reforming and they'd be destroying their perfect legacy, Oasis' legacy is patchy at best and was virtually destroyed by themselves from Be Here Now onwards anyway. Bring it on I say, I want to hear 'The sink is full of fishes, but she's got dirty dishes on the brain' just one more time...
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Post by howsoonisnow on Dec 4, 2011 12:24:37 GMT -5
They won't do the tour for the money, they don't need it. But even if they do it for the ego, I really don't see where the pb is. Liam and Noel are well known for their ego, no news here. A MG tour would be great, everyone here would trie to have ticket in the second it'll be announced, we'll have a great gig, with one of the the greatest album of all time and that's all that matters really. It's in 3 years, they have time to reconcile. If they don't, well they don't. No big deal here, it just would be great for the fans if they do it.
Anyway, it's obvious neither of them have moved on Oasis and each other. If they were indifferent about each other, it would really mean they're over, the fact that they need to spend all their itw speaking about each other doesn't only prove they hate each other, it's more importantly proves they still care about each other. If they didn't care about each other, they simply could say "no comment" to journalist, they don't, they keep going and going about each other all the time. They're just codependant and affraid to turn Oasis page definitly.
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Post by cheerfuljamie on Dec 4, 2011 13:03:10 GMT -5
Oasis are dead lets all move on including Liam & Noel. Sod a reunion tour they haven't been gone 5 minutes. Both have released really good albums long live BDI & NGHFB's. I just wish they would cut out the slagging each other off in interviews it's as boring as fuck.
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Post by thomaslivesforever on Dec 6, 2011 7:00:52 GMT -5
Why is it that every thread I go onto is always filled with posts by gdforever which usually consist of her arguing with people? From what I've seen it's usually her defending herself from some idiots that have seemingly ganged up on her. I must have missed something that has happened around here before I joined since it seems she's being targeted a bit. You've been reading a different forum to me then mate.
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Post by allah on Dec 6, 2011 10:20:35 GMT -5
From what I've seen it's usually her defending herself from some idiots that have seemingly ganged up on her. I must have missed something that has happened around here before I joined since it seems she's being targeted a bit. You've been reading a different forum to me then mate. I live in a whole different world to you mate, the real world
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Post by ctmazin on Dec 6, 2011 10:53:51 GMT -5
From what I've seen it's usually her defending herself from some idiots that have seemingly ganged up on her. I must have missed something that has happened around here before I joined since it seems she's being targeted a bit. You've been reading a different forum to me then mate. gdforever is a perfectly good member of this forum, albeit a bit of a stickler...I'll admit that she got under my skin on one occasion. Nonetheless, beyond the fact that she is a Noel fan (as am I), I fail to see what is so horrible about most of her posts. She's sober, intelligent, measured and pretty reasonable, especially for someone who posts twenty times a day.
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Post by gdforever on Dec 6, 2011 10:56:57 GMT -5
You've been reading a different forum to me then mate. gdforever is a perfectly good member of this forum, albeit a bit of a stickler...I'll admit that she got under my skin on one occasion. Nonetheless, beyond the fact that she is a Noel fan (as am I), I fail to see what is so horrible about most of her posts. She's sober, intelligent, measured and pretty reasonable, especially for someone who posts twenty times a day. I'll have you know I am drunk as skunk. ;p j/k
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Post by youandmegirl on Dec 6, 2011 11:53:56 GMT -5
You've been reading a different forum to me then mate. I live in a whole different world to you mate, the real world Okay, here's the fundamental flaw in your supposed counsel, like: Let's, for the sake of argument, give you the benefit of the doubt that your felt "real world" is indeed about what you choose to attend to and represent and connect with, BUT isn't your apparently "real world" you are experiencing and making choices within and developing perceptions without, if you will, is maybe actually just a small, skewed section of reality that's been pre-chosen FOR you BY you, with your own-- conscious or unconscious-- prejudices?? You're welcome. (Or is it "your welcome"?)
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Post by thomaslivesforever on Dec 8, 2011 5:39:45 GMT -5
You've been reading a different forum to me then mate. I live in a whole different world to you mate, the real world I don't think becoming GD's latest minion constitutes living in 'the real world'
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