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Post by liamgallagher1992 on Nov 29, 2011 20:51:31 GMT -5
When Oasis split my main concern was whether Beady Eye would put out a good album, they did. Really my main concern should have been who Noel would have in his "band". That never even crossed my mind, i thought Noels going to put a great album out, put the classics in the setlist, lovely jubbly.
For a start they look fucking shite. That guitarist looks like Noel when he was going through his Be Here Now drug crisis and the drummer looks like he should be on the sex offenders register.
Watching Noel on Jools made me cringe. I was unconvinced by the band when i seen him live, but after 10 pints and when the crowd are louder than the performers on the classics, you dont notice it as much. On Jools, it is the first time i have watched a Noel performance and just wanted it to end. The band are an abseloute joke. Do they have soundchecks? The predominant sound in TDOYAM is a piano and stupidly loud drums with Noel struggling vocally.
When the the sex offender drums he looks like the gorilla on the Cadbury's advert. And his drums seem to be louder than any other instrument which totally ruined If I Had A Gun. The best part of IIHAG on the album is the impact of the melody in the chorus, and live it is just non existent, down to stupidly loud drums guitars.
What A Life just does not come across good live in anyway. The best thing about the album version is the riff. The riff is superb. The vocals are superb. And it's a mega song. Then live, Noel's vocals are all over the place and it is all played in totally the wrong key.
He needs to sack the lot of them. They are shit. Noel, an accoustic guitar and a stool. That is all we need.
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Post by ctmazin on Nov 29, 2011 21:18:25 GMT -5
When Oasis split my main concern was whether Beady Eye would put out a good album, they did. Really my main concern should have been who Noel would have in his "band". That never even crossed my mind, i thought Noels going to put a great album out, put the classics in the setlist, lovely jubbly. For a start they look fucking shite. That guitarist looks like Noel when he was going through his Be Here Now drug crisis and the drummer looks like he should be on the sex offenders register. Watching Noel on Jools made me cringe. I was unconvinced by the band when i seen him live, but after 10 pints and when the crowd are louder than the performers on the classics, you dont notice it as much. On Jools, it is the first time i have watched a Noel performance and just wanted it to end. The band are an abseloute joke. Do they have soundchecks? The predominant sound in TDOYAM is a piano and stupidly loud drums with Noel struggling vocally. When the the sex offender drums he looks like the gorilla on the Cadbury's advert. And his drums seem to be louder than any other instrument which totally ruined If I Had A Gun. The best part of IIHAG on the album is the impact of the melody in the chorus, and live it is just non existent, down to stupidly loud drums guitars. What A Life just does not come across good live in anyway. The best thing about the album version is the riff. The riff is superb. The vocals are superb. And it's a mega song. Then live, Noel's vocals are all over the place and it is all played in totally the wrong key. He needs to sack the lot of them. They are shit. Noel, an accoustic guitar and a stool. That is all we need. I think you're mostly wrong. They sounded very good live when I saw them in Toronto-very tight. The bassist is great--good energy, good playing and great backing vocals. Mike Rowe is tops-I don't think anyone here would disagree. And I think the drummer is really good, regardless of the fact that he looks "like a sex offender". I think the drums on the last half of IIHAG are pretty awesome, and really make the song kick. The guitarist has not distinguished himself, but I would hardly say he's awful. It's not like he's asked to do a heck of a lot I would agree that What A life is not that good live, which is disappointing because it is my favourite song on the album. But that comes down to the fact that Noel refuses to/can't play the guitar part like it is played on the album (which is the best part of the song) and Noel's voice, which doesn't project like it does on the other new songs.
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Post by rich45 on Nov 29, 2011 22:04:46 GMT -5
When the the sex offender drums he looks like the gorilla on the Cadbury's advert. Brilliant ;D
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Post by thuperthonic on Nov 29, 2011 22:49:58 GMT -5
Yeah, epic post, regardless of how much one agrees with it.
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Post by Silence Dogood on Nov 29, 2011 22:55:27 GMT -5
i wouldn't call the band a disaster but i kinda get what you're saying. they look nothing like Oasis--the band we all love, whereas BDI looks a lot like Oasis. the drummer does look like a pedophile and he needs to stop hanging on to the little hair he has and just shave his head already but the bass player(though he looks real young) does an adequate job with the backing vocals. The other guitarist looks bloated all the time and Mike Rowe is over the top with his mannerisms, like he gets too excited or something. come on dude, you're playing the piano, chill. lol Finally Noel hasn't exactly been stellar(vocals) but what can you do?
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Post by youandmegirl on Nov 29, 2011 22:59:55 GMT -5
Yep, that's the result of going at it half-assed, Mr. Noel Gallagher.
(If only I can take my own advice, then I, too, will be a much happier and healthier person. But ya know how pride can be a fuckin' pain in the ass sometimes, ain't nothing to do but massage it, like)
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Post by uboasis on Nov 29, 2011 23:07:57 GMT -5
i wouldn't call the band a disaster but i kinda get what you're saying. they look nothing like Oasis--the band we all love, whereas BDI looks a lot like Oasis. Why would I want Noel to be in a band that looks like Oasis if it's not Oasis. I'm ready for Noel to be playing less stadium rock and being a singer-songwriter. It's not the 90s anymore. Frankly, I think when rock bands start playing into their 50s, they look kind of silly. Solo artists age better. That said, he does have a collective/band. I do think that Russell Pritchard and Mike Rowe are keepers.
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Post by theelfoidtfs on Nov 29, 2011 23:51:00 GMT -5
I'm gonna go over this bit by bit. For a start they look fucking shite. Welcome to the post-Susan Boyle world. Also, Mick Jagger's face looks like it is made of rubber, Ronnie James Dio was a dwarf, you can still be an incredible performer regardless of look. If being good looking was a requisite for being a good musician, that would make Britney Spears more talented than Black Sabbath, Motorhead, The Rolling Stones, and a host of other incredible talents. It's a lot harder to be famous if you're unattractive, but that doesn't mean we all have to endorse that stupid idea. Keith Richards also shows you can be ugly as all sin and still have that 'rockstar' vibe. Also, to an extent, Noel is gonna want somewhat plain people to avoid the focus being on them too much. I recall when David Lee Roth recruited a solo band in the 80s, there was a "no bleach blonde hair" stipulation. This will be similar. Also, is this music really something that demands rock 'n' roll looks? It's a middle aged man's music, and he is partnered with people accordingly. Considering the role of Paul Stacey in Oasis, having his twin brother on drums is really not a bad shout. A bad sound mix will be the fault of the soundboard engineers / your television / the broadcasting engineers. How loud a band plays is not based on how hard they hit the instruments (mostly). Not entirely sure how Noel singing in the wrong key is the band's fault. Do explain how the man singing is not the one at fault here (I am not critiquing him personally, as I did not see it, I am just unsure how the blame can be their fault). That does limit the material he can play an awful lot. A lot of the new album would not come accross perfectly with that. A lot of his 1994-96 ballad-ish b-sides work great in that format, but 2 hours of that would get a little tiring. Even for those who loved it, it's not something you want to see more than a few times. Hardcore Oasis fans who love those songs aside, not many people will know that material anyway. Logistically, he has to play well known material, or play to a crowd of ten people.
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Post by Silence Dogood on Nov 29, 2011 23:53:14 GMT -5
i wouldn't call the band a disaster but i kinda get what you're saying. they look nothing like Oasis--the band we all love, whereas BDI looks a lot like Oasis. Why would I want Noel to be in a band that looks like Oasis if it's not Oasis. I'm ready for Noel to be playing less stadium rock and being a singer-songwriter. It's not the 90s anymore. Frankly, I think when rock bands start playing into their 50s, they look kind of silly. Solo artists age better. That said, he does have a collective/band. I do think that Russell Pritchard and Mike Rowe are keepers. Noel himself wishes he could still play stadiums, if you like him better playing smaller venues that's fine. Why would i want them to look like Oasis? that's not the point. the point is Oasis was my ideal band, they had a certain image, they looked badass on stage. BDI still looks that way when they perform, Noel band doesn't, that's it.
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Post by putmeinmyplace89 on Nov 30, 2011 0:07:19 GMT -5
this is pathetic. learn an instrument, dont be such shallow humans
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Post by thuperthonic on Nov 30, 2011 0:15:03 GMT -5
What a Life does suck live though, that's for damn sure.
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Post by basiloasis1974 on Nov 30, 2011 1:26:37 GMT -5
whereas BDI looks a lot like Oasis No shit sherlock!
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Post by GIMH on Nov 30, 2011 1:58:33 GMT -5
Have to agree with Thupertonic, it doesn't matter whether you agree or not, the OP is fantastic.
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Post by Rifles on Nov 30, 2011 2:11:25 GMT -5
I do think that Russell Pritchard and Mike Rowe are keepers. I agree. The bass player moves just enough to sort of be interesting and his backing vocals are great. And Mike Rowe is cool. I don't have an issue with the drummer, but I'm not a fan of the guitarist. He looks like he's gotten about 40 too many botox shots or something. He just looks weirdly plastic and I'm not a fan of his playing style, more specifically how he solos. They are definitely not the most interesting bunch. BDI are saved by Gem and Liam, in my opinion. I think Andy and the bass player are useless onstage. Sharrock is decent, no complaints there. Noel's not particularly magnetic when he's on stage unless he's ripping into guitar solos. I can see why people think the show is visually boring. The music is great though.
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Post by Swarfiga on Nov 30, 2011 2:15:36 GMT -5
The bass player and Mike Rowe behind the keyboard are cool. They both add great things to the show, and to the songs. The piano on the acoustic tunes, and Russel's backing vocals are spot on. For example. The other two guys... nah! I agree that the drums sounds way too loud on especially If I Had A Gun... as far as I can tell, by watching it on Youtube. I'm not been able to see NGHFB live yet.
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Post by gdforever on Nov 30, 2011 2:24:32 GMT -5
I definitely agree about the guitarist
Honestly...I hope that Noel is a risk-taking enough person to pull off this rotating line-up thing. I think that switching up the guitarist before the AA album would be a good idea. Noel seemed to imply there was more intricate guitar work going on on that album...and frankly this guitarist doesn't thrill me.
The drummer is alright. I have a feeling that the people complaining about his drumming probably aren't a fan of the drumming on the album...which was Noel's decision. Every drummer would probably play these songs roughly the same. I won't complain if he gets switched...but we'll see when the AA album comes out which presumably will have some different beats. That will probably give us a better idea of this guys versatility and skills
Bass player and Mike Rowe are great though. Mike Rowe gets really into it...which is disconcerting at first...but he's great. He loves preforming and musically he is amazing...what more could you ask? More like him is the answer. And Zutons guy is getting better with the backing vocals every time I hear them play, the bass playing is fine and he looks good on stage.
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Post by GIMH on Nov 30, 2011 2:40:33 GMT -5
The drummer is the only guy aside from Noel who appears on every studio performance isn't he? Reckon he's here to stay (unless he does get put on the sex offenders register)
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Post by gdforever on Nov 30, 2011 2:50:05 GMT -5
The drummer is the only guy aside from Noel who appears on every studio performance isn't he? Reckon he's here to stay (unless he does get put on the sex offenders register) He didn't appear on the AA stuff as far as I know. He is on all the HFB stuff though. Probably the b-sides/bonus tracks too. He's been working with Noel a quite a while on this project...they must get along pretty well. I agree he probably isn't going anywhere this tour.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 30, 2011 2:50:10 GMT -5
who cares about the backing band. im there to see Noel. the bass player does a good job though.
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Post by headshrinker84 on Nov 30, 2011 4:19:29 GMT -5
whereas BDI looks a lot like Oasis No shit sherlock! Haha he truly is a moron.
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Post by rupertg on Nov 30, 2011 4:34:54 GMT -5
the bass player bops his head like a pigeon
maybe that's where the 'high flying birds' come in
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Post by Silence Dogood on Nov 30, 2011 4:43:33 GMT -5
No shit sherlock! Haha he truly is a moron. go fuck your mother
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Post by headshrinker84 on Nov 30, 2011 4:52:55 GMT -5
Haha he truly is a moron. go fuck your mother Aww did i touch a nerve?
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Post by howsoonisnow on Nov 30, 2011 5:15:03 GMT -5
There's a thing I really don't like about this band : They move too much. Oasis was all about standing still on stage, Liam did, Noel did and Gem and Andy learned to do it too. There was an unity on stage. BDI still doing that. Noel on the other hand is still standing still but the other guys around keep moving. Mike Rowe is great on the piano, but he just moves too much, he has a choregraphy for every note, Not to mention the guitaris who's praticly dancing. When i see them, I have the impression Noel's lost around them.
The, it's true they look like shit, the drummer is fat, and too loud, especially for songs like Talk Tonight, it's ridiculous. And the guitarist look like he's got a wig on. And they look so old. I would only save Mike Row and the bass player.
Finally, it's true WAL sounds like shit live, it sounds like an average rock song and looses all his dance spirit. Stupid version.
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Post by andymorris on Nov 30, 2011 5:18:57 GMT -5
What did you expect, they're touring musicians. of courese there wont be band unity. And coz it's not a band, they're supposed to look ridiculous. But the drummer and Mike Rowe are cool as fuck, the other two, i dont really care for.
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