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Post by Marissa on Dec 15, 2022 15:30:58 GMT -5
this is actually the record that got me into oasis. sure, it could've been better, but it blew my mind when it first came out and i didn't know who these guys were. it's special in my heart for that reason and still one of my favorites
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Post by World71R on Dec 15, 2022 21:44:17 GMT -5
A big issue with the album is that it sounds so dated and retro. Yes, Oasis were never original but their sound was contemporary in the 1990s with Owen Morris at the helm. Obviously Dave Sardy has to take a lot of the blame, but songwriting wise, nothing went beyond the 1960s and 1970s influences. And it sounds like an album from the 60s and 70s by some mediocre long haired hippy weirdos specialising in sludgy glam rock. An album so incredibly out of touch against the band's contemporaries during that period who were releasing much more diverse and sonically interesting albums. Their regressive, conservative instincts were infuriating at this stage. All the better they broke up then. Brutal. I guess this could apply to I'm Outta Time and Waiting for the Rapture but otherwise I think it was a pretty exciting-sounding album that fit in well with the landscape of 2009. Especially The Shock of the Lightning and Falling Down. Hell even The Nature of Reality gives me similar vibes as Tame Impala's breakthrough song Elephant (which came four whole years later), just without the distortion and fuzz added onto the guitars. I really think the band was onto something, even just listening to the Richard Fearless production of To Be Where There's Life. I just wish they had spread their wings a little more with their producer choices but even as is I'd say it's a good note for Oasis to have gone out on, even if the last few songs weren't that great (they were still cool-sounding and not your typical 3-chord rock affair some people pit on the band).
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Post by andymorris on Dec 16, 2022 9:43:45 GMT -5
I'd say that this record was a bit of a risk really... compared to the gigs. The gigs were really awful during that era, best of tours, autopilot.
The sound on DOYS is huge, almost heavy metaly. Some songs are not up there with their best work but i absolutely enjoy the start of the record. Song 1-3 are great (yes i love that version of Rapture too, although the riff is clearly stolen). Then "shock" for me is of value for its drum solo, otherwise I dont care for the song. I'm Outta time is ok, same as "Lady". Then you got the huge Falling Down. to Be Where there's life should have been Fearless version.
I also enjoy Nature of Reality for its atmosphere, same for Solder On. Aint Got nothing shouldnt be on it. Should have swapped for Boy With the Blues. But it sounds like from another sessions, so maybe that wasn't included because of that.
Overall, there's 5 great songs on this record, which shines really because of the atmosphere. Maybe it's a bit of a pastiche, but where Oasis was in 08/09, they couldn't really reinvent the wheel. They just had to sell records to sell tours. They were a ticket selling machine, like U2 or any other aging act. The love was fading. Clearly. So they were a bit stuck creatively. they had to please everyone.
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Post by tiger40 on Dec 16, 2022 13:29:45 GMT -5
The second half might not be as strong as individual songs but they flow very well for me and complete the journey of the album as a project overall IMO. I still say that Soldier On is an absolute gem and one of Liam's finest bits of writing. This album seems to get very underrated by this forum and hardcore UK Oasis junkies but it has a hipstery appeal to people abroad judging by how its talked about on YouTube comments and such. I guess the lyrics on TNOR just don't sound as shit or on the nose if you're not an English speaker first and foremost (like me). I totally agree with you about Soldier On and I've always liked it. For me it's Liam's best song on that album and it's a good album closer too.
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Post by tiger40 on Dec 16, 2022 13:36:38 GMT -5
A big issue with the album is that it sounds so dated and retro. Yes, Oasis were never original but their sound was contemporary in the 1990s with Owen Morris at the helm. Obviously Dave Sardy has to take a lot of the blame, but songwriting wise, nothing went beyond the 1960s and 1970s influences. And it sounds like an album from the 60s and 70s by some mediocre long haired hippy weirdos specialising in sludgy glam rock. An album so incredibly out of touch against the band's contemporaries during that period who were releasing much more diverse and sonically interesting albums. Their regressive, conservative instincts were infuriating at this stage. All the better they broke up then. Brutal. I guess this could apply to I'm Outta Time and Waiting for the Rapture but otherwise I think it was a pretty exciting-sounding album that fit in well with the landscape of 2009. Especially The Shock of the Lightning and Falling Down. Hell even The Nature of Reality gives me similar vibes as Tame Impala's breakthrough song Elephant (which came four whole years later), just without the distortion and fuzz added onto the guitars. I really think the band was onto something, even just listening to the Richard Fearless production of To Be Where There's Life. I just wish they had spread their wings a little more with their producer choices but even as is I'd say it's a good note for Oasis to have gone out on, even if the last few songs weren't that great (they were still cool-sounding and not your typical 3-chord rock affair some people pit on the band). I love the Richard Fearless version of To Be Where There's Life and always have. I haven't listened to it in a long time though.
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Post by tiger40 on Dec 16, 2022 13:41:35 GMT -5
I've always loved I Believe In All and always liked it much better than Boy With The Blues which is ok but it's never been one of my favourite Liam written songs.
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Post by matt on Dec 16, 2022 14:35:20 GMT -5
A big issue with the album is that it sounds so dated and retro. Yes, Oasis were never original but their sound was contemporary in the 1990s with Owen Morris at the helm. Obviously Dave Sardy has to take a lot of the blame, but songwriting wise, nothing went beyond the 1960s and 1970s influences. And it sounds like an album from the 60s and 70s by some mediocre long haired hippy weirdos specialising in sludgy glam rock. An album so incredibly out of touch against the band's contemporaries during that period who were releasing much more diverse and sonically interesting albums. Their regressive, conservative instincts were infuriating at this stage. All the better they broke up then. Brutal. I guess this could apply to I'm Outta Time and Waiting for the Rapture but otherwise I think it was a pretty exciting-sounding album that fit in well with the landscape of 2009. Especially The Shock of the Lightning and Falling Down. Hell even The Nature of Reality gives me similar vibes as Tame Impala's breakthrough song Elephant (which came four whole years later), just without the distortion and fuzz added onto the guitars. I really think the band was onto something, even just listening to the Richard Fearless production of To Be Where There's Life. I just wish they had spread their wings a little more with their producer choices but even as is I'd say it's a good note for Oasis to have gone out on, even if the last few songs weren't that great (they were still cool-sounding and not your typical 3-chord rock affair some people pit on the band). I do think Falling Down and Shock of the Lightning are great tunes but aside from that, I don't really get anything from the album. Shock has a great punky energy reminiscent of their early days and Falling Down is one of Noel's best songs, although I do think the production sounds too retro even if its one of the more capable sounding songs on the album. The first two songs are decent if unspectacular but everything outside of that is a real dirge for me. I've always had a soft spot for Soldier On which, in the hands of a more exciting producer, could have been drawn out into something quite haunting and spectacular. It works as a closer to an epic album that sadly doesn't exist, so by time the tune starts up, its effect is limited and I just stopped caring given the disastrous tunes preceding it. I think contrary to ideas that its experimental, it's bland and safe, and where the apparent 'grooves' are I'm not sure. To get that, I wish Oasis could have gone in the studio and built the songs up from the ground.
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Post by Lennon2217 on Dec 16, 2022 15:52:49 GMT -5
I think if I did my “Falling Down” power rankings it would go like this:
1) Falling Down (Demo)
2) Falling Down (The Gibb Mix)
3) Falling Down (album version)
4) Falling Down (AA mix)
5) Falling Down (Chemical Brothers mix)
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Post by World71R on Dec 16, 2022 17:07:44 GMT -5
Brutal. I guess this could apply to I'm Outta Time and Waiting for the Rapture but otherwise I think it was a pretty exciting-sounding album that fit in well with the landscape of 2009. Especially The Shock of the Lightning and Falling Down. Hell even The Nature of Reality gives me similar vibes as Tame Impala's breakthrough song Elephant (which came four whole years later), just without the distortion and fuzz added onto the guitars. I really think the band was onto something, even just listening to the Richard Fearless production of To Be Where There's Life. I just wish they had spread their wings a little more with their producer choices but even as is I'd say it's a good note for Oasis to have gone out on, even if the last few songs weren't that great (they were still cool-sounding and not your typical 3-chord rock affair some people pit on the band). I do think Falling Down and Shock of the Lightning are great tunes but aside from that, I don't really get anything from the album. Shock has a great punky energy reminiscent of their early days and Falling Down is one of Noel's best songs, although I do think the production sounds too retro even if its one of the more capable sounding songs on the album. The first two songs are decent if unspectacular but everything outside of that is a real dirge for me. I've always had a soft spot for Soldier On which, in the hands of a more exciting producer, could have been drawn out into something quite haunting and spectacular. It works as a closer to an epic album that sadly doesn't exist, so by time the tune starts up, its effect is limited and I just stopped caring given the disastrous tunes preceding it. I think contrary to ideas that its experimental, it's bland and safe, and where the apparent 'grooves' are I'm not sure. To get that, I wish Oasis could have gone in the studio and built the songs up from the ground. I agree with that last part of building the songs up from the ground. TBWTL (Richard Fearless version) showed what could be done when they built a song around a groove where everyone gets a time to shine or chime in. I would've loved to have seen Andy go wild on some of the jams and Noel pull off some cool lead guitar stuff or some of the drum fills by Zak or Chris, we really lost out.
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Post by PepsiNebula on Dec 16, 2022 20:04:51 GMT -5
A big issue with the album is that it sounds so dated and retro. Yes, Oasis were never original but their sound was contemporary in the 1990s with Owen Morris at the helm. Obviously Dave Sardy has to take a lot of the blame, but songwriting wise, nothing went beyond the 1960s and 1970s influences. And it sounds like an album from the 60s and 70s by some mediocre long haired hippy weirdos specialising in sludgy glam rock. An album so incredibly out of touch against the band's contemporaries during that period who were releasing much more diverse and sonically interesting albums. Their regressive, conservative instincts were infuriating at this stage. All the better they broke up then. There's nothing inherently wrong with retro, though. If you follow the same artistic trends as everyone else, just wait a decade and you'll still be dated.
I'm an Oasis latecomer who worked through their discography in order after the fact, and I loved DOYS instantly. Maybe it was because I was comparing it to previous Oasis albums rather than to its contemporaries, but it felt fresh and colorful and varied after the dreary diminishing returns of Heathen Chemistry and especially DBTT. It has a sense of fun that the band hadn't had since BHN, and yeah, I love the retro vibes on some of the songs, like TBWTL. There isn't a single track on there I regularly skip, which is more than I can say about any other album by the Gallaghers, together or separate.
It's probably the Oasis album I've listened to most. It's right up there with WTSMG for me.
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Post by PepsiNebula on Dec 16, 2022 20:06:12 GMT -5
The second half might not be as strong as individual songs but they flow very well for me and complete the journey of the album as a project overall IMO. I still say that Soldier On is an absolute gem and one of Liam's finest bits of writing. I love Soldier On and am kind of surprised by the vitriol here about it. It's my favorite album closer after Champagne Supernova. I love the eeriness of it and the outro.
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Post by Diamond in The Dark on Dec 17, 2022 4:17:16 GMT -5
Like Dig Out Your Soul. It's just a little dark by the standards of an Oasis album but it has a nice dark veneer. To make it more enjoyable I would change the tracklist a bit and improve the arrangements a bit, especially in To Be Where There's Life... I also like Nature of Reality, it would be a great soundtrack in Peaky Blinders
My Tracklist
Bag It Up The Turning I'm Outta Time To Be Where There's Life The Shock Of The Lightning Falling Down The Nature Of Reality I Believe In All The Boy With The Blues Soldier On
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Post by themanwithnoname on Dec 17, 2022 8:43:55 GMT -5
Once again, the songs weren’t really there. It all just felt a bit laboured and lacking any magic.
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Post by Lennon2217 on Dec 17, 2022 13:43:28 GMT -5
Once again, the songs weren’t really there. It all just felt a bit laboured and lacking any magic. Oh the songs were there. They most definitely were there. It just was not all of them were used properly!!!!
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Post by The Crimson Rambler on Dec 17, 2022 14:54:41 GMT -5
The obligatory tracklist post:
Dig Out Your Soul 1. Bag It Up 2. The Turning 3. Waiting for the Rapture 4. The Shock of the Lightning 5. I'm Outta Time
6. (I Wanna Live In A Dream In My) Record Machine [Liam Sung] 7. Come On Outside [Liam Sung] 8. To Be Where There's Life 9. Falling Down 10. Soldier On
~44m
Personally I have no problems with production or arrangements of the songs and would be more than happy to keep the songs the way they are. I think I'd have held over 'Boy With The Blues' once again as it's an album worth contribution from Liam and is only just squeaked out by 'Soldier On' but 'Ain't Got Nothin'', 'The Nature of Reality', '(GOY)HHL', 'Those Swollen Hand Blues' and 'I Believe In All' all make for perfectly serviceable b-sides. A bunch of the remixes would make for a nice bonus disk on a special edition/boxset of the album.
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Post by The Crimson Rambler on Dec 17, 2022 16:46:54 GMT -5
A big issue with the album is that it sounds so dated and retro. Yes, Oasis were never original but their sound was contemporary in the 1990s with Owen Morris at the helm. [...] songwriting wise, nothing went beyond the 1960s and 1970s influences. And it sounds like an album from the 60s and 70s by some mediocre long haired hippy weirdos specialising in sludgy glam rock. An album so incredibly out of touch against the band's contemporaries during that period who were releasing much more diverse and sonically interesting albums. Their regressive, conservative instincts were infuriating at this stage. All the better they broke up then. I'm failing to hear what you're hearing. Is it retro? Absolutely. Dated? I certainly wouldn't phrase it like that. A lot of popular rock music from the 2000s was very retro. Post-punk revival... Garage-rock revival... The Black Keys, Kings of Leon, The Raconteurs, The Hives, The Zutons... But this isn't new to Oasis the band have always been seen in this light. One of the first headlines about the band read 'Never Mind The Bollocks, Here's The Sex Beatles!'. 'Oasis-Quo', remember that? Listen to the opening track from the (WTS)MG? 'Hello'. I'd love to know where the 80's or 90's influences are in that song because I'm struggling to hear them. Outside of 'D'You Know What I Mean?' I don't think you could seriously say that Be Here Now was a contemporary sounding album, could you? Ultimately though I don't think it's important whether you try to sound contemporary or not. Good music has been produced in every decade and you're free to pull from wherever you like. All trends come in and out of fashion and following what's new isn't necessarily the best idea. May I make a simple observation as to why you don't like the sound of the album? It just so happens that during this time period Noel and the band were being influenced by stuff from the 60's and 70's that you yourself aren't particularly a fan of. You've gone on record many times dissing Glam Rock (which funnily enough has been a clear influence on the band since Definitely Maybe), but as you're such a fan of the term 'Dad Rock' I assume this extends to quite a lot of music from that period of time. Not all of these bands and artists influenced Dig Out Your Soul but here's some quotes of yours which I think make it quite clear you don't like a lot of popular music from that period (though I'm sure there's plenty of music you do): I think Sardy is a bit of a scapegoat in the Oasis community. I think people Noel will have approved everything he did. Dig Out The Soul is the only LP he fully produced for Oasis or Noel and it sounds pretty good to me. As good a job as Owen did early on for Oasis Sardy never dropped the ball as much as Owen did on Be Here Now. It's not experimental but it's definitely not bland either. The grooves? Bag It Up? Waiting For The Rapture? High Horse Lady? To Be Where There's Life? The Nature of Reality? Soldier On? I'd say they all have some groove to them, at least compared to typical Oasis. Maybe they're not what most people would immediately think of when the term 'groove' is used but I can hear what Noel's getting at.
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Post by cj85 on Dec 17, 2022 17:49:46 GMT -5
The obligatory tracklist post: Dig Out Your Soul1. Bag It Up 2. The Turning 3. Waiting for the Rapture 4. The Shock of the Lightning 5. I'm Outta Time 6. (I Wanna Live In A Dream In My) Record Machine [Liam Sung]7. Come On Outside [Liam Sung]8. To Be Where There's Life 9. Falling Down 10. Soldier On ~44m Personally I have no problems with production or arrangements of the songs and would be more than happy to keep the songs the way they are. I think I'd have held over 'Boy With The Blues' once again as it's an album worth contribution from Liam and is only just squeaked out by 'Soldier On' but 'Ain't Got Nothin'', 'The Nature of Reality', '(GOY)HHL', 'Those Swollen Hand Blues' and 'I Believe In All' all make for perfectly serviceable b-sides. A bunch of the remixes would make for a nice bonus disk on a special edition/boxset of the album. ^^This
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Post by matt on Dec 17, 2022 17:55:39 GMT -5
A big issue with the album is that it sounds so dated and retro. Yes, Oasis were never original but their sound was contemporary in the 1990s with Owen Morris at the helm. [...] songwriting wise, nothing went beyond the 1960s and 1970s influences. And it sounds like an album from the 60s and 70s by some mediocre long haired hippy weirdos specialising in sludgy glam rock. An album so incredibly out of touch against the band's contemporaries during that period who were releasing much more diverse and sonically interesting albums. Their regressive, conservative instincts were infuriating at this stage. All the better they broke up then. I'm failing to hear what you're hearing. Is it retro? Absolutely. Dated? I certainly wouldn't phrase it like that. A lot of popular rock music from the 2000s was very retro. Post-punk revival... Garage-rock revival... The Black Keys, Kings of Leon, The Raconteurs, The Hives, The Zutons... But this isn't new to Oasis the band have always been seen in this light. One of the first headlines about the band read 'Never Mind The Bollocks, Here's The Sex Beatles!'. 'Oasis-Quo', remember that? Listen to the opening track from the (WTS)MG? 'Hello'. I'd love to know where the 80's or 90's influences are in that song because I'm struggling to hear them. Outside of 'D'You Know What I Mean?' I don't think you could seriously say that Be Here Now was a contemporary sounding album, could you? Ultimately though I don't think it's important whether you try to sound contemporary or not. Good music has been produced in every decade and you're free to pull from wherever you like. All trends come in and out of fashion and following what's new isn't necessarily the best idea. May I make a simple observation as to why you don't like the sound of the album? It just so happens that during this time period Noel and the band were being influenced by stuff from the 60's and 70's that you yourself aren't particularly a fan of. You've gone on record many times dissing Glam Rock (which funnily enough has been a clear influence on the band since Definitely Maybe), but as you're such a fan of the term 'Dad Rock' I assume this extends to quite a lot of music from that period of time. Not all of these bands and artists influenced Dig Out Your Soul but here's some quotes of yours which I think make it quite clear you don't like a lot of popular music from that period (though I'm sure there's plenty of music you do): I think Sardy is a bit of a scapegoat in the Oasis community. I think people Noel will have approved everything he did. Dig Out The Soul is the only LP he fully produced for Oasis or Noel and it sounds pretty good to me. As good a job as Owen did early on for Oasis Sardy never dropped the ball as much as Owen did on Be Here Now. It's not experimental but it's definitely not bland either. The grooves? Bag It Up? Waiting For The Rapture? High Horse Lady? To Be Where There's Life? The Nature of Reality? Soldier On? I'd say they all have some groove to them, at least compared to typical Oasis. Maybe they're not what most people would immediately think of when the term 'groove' is used but I can hear what Noel's getting at. A fair point, something I haven't really added together is the fact that the majority of influences for the album are crusty old rockers whose opinions of have probably regressed even further. It's true, I'm not a fan of rock music from the 60s and 70s. But I also think what separates Oasis from those list of contemporary bands you list is that they are a real anthemic stadium pop-rock band. The pop element is key. I think the brickwall techniques of the first albums give it a contemporary edge to it that separates it from albums from the 60s and 70s. And as messy as it is, I still like the chaotic production of Be Here Now over anything Sardy has done. While I do agree that most of the influences of the first three albums don't go beyond the 60s and 70s, there are melodic sensibilities that make those songs timeless. I fundamentally believe Oasis at their best are a pop band rocked up. They can definitely get away with punk influences probably because I like that genre (Headshrinker, Shock, Bring It On Down) but their timelessness derives from Noel being a master of pop melody. That is nowhere to be found on Dig Out Your Soul, and I think if the power of a great tune was there, it would transcend any of the influences I have no time for.
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Post by andymorris on Dec 18, 2022 3:10:13 GMT -5
My Dig Out Your Soul
1. Bag It Up 2. The Turning 3. Waiting for the Rapture 4. The Shock of the Lightning 5. I'm Outta Time 6. High Horse Lady 7. Falling Down 8. Swollen Hand Blues 9. To Be Where There's Life 10. Boy With the Blues 11. Soldier On
why Swollen Hand Blues you say ? Simply because i stuck it here once, and it felt really good after the adventurous Falling down. It creates a relaxing atmosphere than and then the "psychedelic" continues in To Be Where There's Life. It was recorded before but somehow sounds really good and fits on DOYS.
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Post by tiger40 on Dec 18, 2022 13:35:41 GMT -5
The obligatory tracklist post: Dig Out Your Soul1. Bag It Up 2. The Turning 3. Waiting for the Rapture 4. The Shock of the Lightning 5. I'm Outta Time 6. (I Wanna Live In A Dream In My) Record Machine [Liam Sung]7. Come On Outside [Liam Sung]8. To Be Where There's Life 9. Falling Down 10. Soldier On ~44m Personally I have no problems with production or arrangements of the songs and would be more than happy to keep the songs the way they are. I think I'd have held over 'Boy With The Blues' once again as it's an album worth contribution from Liam and is only just squeaked out by 'Soldier On' but 'Ain't Got Nothin'', 'The Nature of Reality', '(GOY)HHL', 'Those Swollen Hand Blues' and 'I Believe In All' all make for perfectly serviceable b-sides. A bunch of the remixes would make for a nice bonus disk on a special edition/boxset of the album. Personally I would have put I Believe In All on the album instead of Ain't Got Nothing but I agree with you the other songs which you mentioned should've been b.sides instead of the remixes which we got. Also, the alternative version of Waiting For The Rapture should've been on the album instead of the version we got which I've never liked much.
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Post by The Crimson Rambler on Dec 18, 2022 19:19:49 GMT -5
I'm failing to hear what you're hearing. Is it retro? Absolutely. Dated? I certainly wouldn't phrase it like that. A lot of popular rock music from the 2000s was very retro. Post-punk revival... Garage-rock revival... The Black Keys, Kings of Leon, The Raconteurs, The Hives, The Zutons... But this isn't new to Oasis the band have always been seen in this light. One of the first headlines about the band read 'Never Mind The Bollocks, Here's The Sex Beatles!'. 'Oasis-Quo', remember that? Listen to the opening track from the (WTS)MG? 'Hello'. I'd love to know where the 80's or 90's influences are in that song because I'm struggling to hear them. Outside of 'D'You Know What I Mean?' I don't think you could seriously say that Be Here Now was a contemporary sounding album, could you? Ultimately though I don't think it's important whether you try to sound contemporary or not. Good music has been produced in every decade and you're free to pull from wherever you like. All trends come in and out of fashion and following what's new isn't necessarily the best idea. May I make a simple observation as to why you don't like the sound of the album? It just so happens that during this time period Noel and the band were being influenced by stuff from the 60's and 70's that you yourself aren't particularly a fan of. You've gone on record many times dissing Glam Rock (which funnily enough has been a clear influence on the band since Definitely Maybe), but as you're such a fan of the term 'Dad Rock' I assume this extends to quite a lot of music from that period of time. Not all of these bands and artists influenced Dig Out Your Soul but here's some quotes of yours which I think make it quite clear you don't like a lot of popular music from that period (though I'm sure there's plenty of music you do): I think Sardy is a bit of a scapegoat in the Oasis community. I think people Noel will have approved everything he did. Dig Out The Soul is the only LP he fully produced for Oasis or Noel and it sounds pretty good to me. As good a job as Owen did early on for Oasis Sardy never dropped the ball as much as Owen did on Be Here Now. It's not experimental but it's definitely not bland either. The grooves? Bag It Up? Waiting For The Rapture? High Horse Lady? To Be Where There's Life? The Nature of Reality? Soldier On? I'd say they all have some groove to them, at least compared to typical Oasis. Maybe they're not what most people would immediately think of when the term 'groove' is used but I can hear what Noel's getting at. A fair point, something I haven't really added together is the fact that the majority of influences for the album are crusty old rockers whose opinions of have probably regressed even further. It's true, I'm not a fan of rock music from the 60s and 70s. But I also think what separates Oasis from those list of contemporary bands you list is that they are a real anthemic stadium pop-rock band. I'd say those bands produced stadium sized anthems. 'Steady As She Goes', 'Hate To Say I Told You So', 'Valerie', 'Sex On Fire'... I don't really buy the brickwalling discussion regarding Oasis. Compression lends itself well to Oasis's natural sound but you have to go about it the right way. I find it hard to believe Oasis songs being highly compressed ('Dig Out Your Soul' is too btw) has anything much to do with you liking them. Regarding 'Be Here Now' I'd wager that when you listen to the album the production and mixing isn't really bothering you because you like the songs so much. Quite clearly things have gone wrong on multiple levels. There's quite a few late 80's/early 90's indie influences in early Oasis. The Stone Roses being the most obvious one. To state that melodic sensibilities are "nowhere to be found" on 'Dig Out Your Soul' is very much overstating things. The Beatles are still one of the clearest influences on the record. And surely, that last line of yours " I think if the power of a great tune was there, it would transcend any of the influences I have no time for" is not true as you've said you don't like the songs of incredibly popular and critically acclaimed bands and artists like Led Zeppelin, The Who, Jimi Hendrix who I'm sure you must acknowledge did indeed write "great tunes" but whose own influences you likely have no time for either. In my opinion 'Dig Out Your Soul' just isn't for you, which of course is totally fine.
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Post by thomaslivesforever on Dec 19, 2022 7:07:24 GMT -5
My Dig Out Your Soul 1. Bag It Up 2. The Turning 3. Waiting for the Rapture 4. The Shock of the Lightning 5. I'm Outta Time 6. High Horse Lady 7. Falling Down 8. Swollen Hand Blues 9. To Be Where There's Life 10. Boy With the Blues 11. Soldier On why Swollen Hand Blues you say ? Simply because i stuck it here once, and it felt really good after the adventurous Falling down. It creates a relaxing atmosphere than and then the "psychedelic" continues in To Be Where There's Life. It was recorded before but somehow sounds really good and fits on DOYS. I'm less surprised by Swollen Hand Blues than I am keeping High Horse Lady on there. Its unsalvageable rubbish.
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Post by andymorris on Dec 19, 2022 7:21:30 GMT -5
My Dig Out Your Soul 1. Bag It Up 2. The Turning 3. Waiting for the Rapture 4. The Shock of the Lightning 5. I'm Outta Time 6. High Horse Lady 7. Falling Down 8. Swollen Hand Blues 9. To Be Where There's Life 10. Boy With the Blues 11. Soldier On why Swollen Hand Blues you say ? Simply because i stuck it here once, and it felt really good after the adventurous Falling down. It creates a relaxing atmosphere than and then the "psychedelic" continues in To Be Where There's Life. It was recorded before but somehow sounds really good and fits on DOYS. I'm less surprised by Swollen Hand Blues than I am keeping High Horse Lady on there. Its unsalvageable rubbish. I dont mind it really. I think it fits and the production is spot on. Sure it's a complete ripp off it's almost a cover. But overall they didn't have much material left to fill this record. It's a nice filler to breath a little between the intense emotional I'm outta Time and the intense sounding Falling Down. This record could have been so much better, but i enjoy it as it is.
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Post by thomaslivesforever on Dec 19, 2022 7:46:22 GMT -5
I'm less surprised by Swollen Hand Blues than I am keeping High Horse Lady on there. Its unsalvageable rubbish. I dont mind it really. I think it fits and the production is spot on. Sure it's a complete ripp off it's almost a cover. But overall they didn't have much material left to fill this record. It's a nice filler to breath a little between the intense emotional I'm outta Time and the intense sounding Falling Down. This record could have been so much better, but i enjoy it as it is. I'd be happy with your tracklist if you took High Horse Lady out. I'd say its an improvement except that.
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Post by andymorris on Dec 19, 2022 10:33:07 GMT -5
I dont mind it really. I think it fits and the production is spot on. Sure it's a complete ripp off it's almost a cover. But overall they didn't have much material left to fill this record. It's a nice filler to breath a little between the intense emotional I'm outta Time and the intense sounding Falling Down. This record could have been so much better, but i enjoy it as it is. I'd be happy with your tracklist if you took High Horse Lady out. I'd say its an improvement except that. Ok i'm removing it next time i listen to DOYS, just for you (you have my word)
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