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Aug 16, 2021 16:23:37 GMT -5
Post by jezza2 on Aug 16, 2021 16:23:37 GMT -5
Every military intervention by the US post WW2 should be a case for den Haag. But I guess only China and Russia are truly evil, America brought PEACE 🇺🇸 and FREEDOM 🇺🇸 The Korean Peninsula would like to speak to you.
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9/11
Aug 16, 2021 17:09:14 GMT -5
Post by girllikeabomb on Aug 16, 2021 17:09:14 GMT -5
It certainly could have been done better. But what's done is done. The most important bit was that it was done.
We are largely on the same side, but I really hope people don't all turn away now. It will be more than a shame if it happens (it will also be a spur for future hate.) Maybe it's a way too much to hope for. People don't even care about the deaths of fellow Americans right now let alone Afghans! But Afghan women need our help and we do owe them something after 20 years of meddling, promises and betrayal. As you say, there are many potential ways to help them. I just fear none of it will happen if people say "that's just the way it is" and don't fight for things to be better. “What’s done is done” is what Lady Macbeth said … except that it wasn’t done! The consequences were only just starting ...
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Post by The Invisible Sun on Aug 16, 2021 17:18:57 GMT -5
It certainly could have been done better. But what's done is done. The most important bit was that it was done.
We are largely on the same side, but I really hope people don't all turn away now. It will be more than a shame if it happens (it will also be a spur for future hate.) Maybe it's a way too much to hope for. People don't even care about the deaths of fellow Americans right now let alone Afghans! But Afghan women need our help and we do owe them something after 20 years of meddling, promises and betrayal. As you say, there are many potential ways to help them. I just fear none of it will happen if people say "that's just the way it is" and don't fight for things to be better. “What’s done is done” is what Lady Macbeth said … except that it wasn’t done! The consequences were only just starting ...
Highly idealistic, but I'd like to see:
-Free Passage and citizenship to the U.S. for Afghan citizens.
- A UBI as compensation for all the suffering we have caused them for at least 20 years should they choose to immigrate to the United States.
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9/11
Aug 16, 2021 17:47:47 GMT -5
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Post by Manualex on Aug 16, 2021 17:47:47 GMT -5
Pontius Pilate was left behind as a historial "I'm not going to deal with this and pretending that everything will be alright in the end if I closet my eyes."
So in the end they wanted only Osama* and the rest of the country is in limbo and not their problem. Cool beans.
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9/11
Aug 17, 2021 15:36:14 GMT -5
Post by Beady’s Here Now on Aug 17, 2021 15:36:14 GMT -5
You get your mucky fingers burned.
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9/11
Aug 18, 2021 14:24:44 GMT -5
Post by Beady’s Here Now on Aug 18, 2021 14:24:44 GMT -5
Biden must (and will) resign.
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I’m not playing partisan games here.
And I’m not getting into a fight on this point.
It’s a blanket statement - you can ignore it, or do as you please with it.
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Post by globe on Aug 18, 2021 16:28:09 GMT -5
I can’t believe I bought into the Bush Doctrine of the 2000s. I was indeed, once a strong Neo-Con. Pushing our style of government onto nations of other cultures under the guise of ‘Nation Building’ is just Imperialism but with a cuter name. And it’s arrogant as fuck. Never again. globeYou tagged that wrong globe again ya fud. Anyway, good to see you recognise what a load of shite you were talking about back then… pity you now seem to have been conned by another nut job. The whole thing is a shit-show- we should never have went to Iraq or Afghanistan, a complete waste of time, money and most importantly innocent lives.
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9/11
Aug 18, 2021 17:00:44 GMT -5
Post by Beady’s Here Now on Aug 18, 2021 17:00:44 GMT -5
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Post by jezza2 on Aug 18, 2021 18:28:16 GMT -5
Biden must (and will) resign.——— I’m not playing partisan games here. And I’m not getting into a fight on this point. It’s a blanket statement - you can ignore it, or do as you please with it. He wont though?
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Post by funhouse on Aug 19, 2021 8:05:16 GMT -5
Biden must (and will) resign.——— I’m not playing partisan games here. And I’m not getting into a fight on this point. It’s a blanket statement - you can ignore it, or do as you please with it. I'm not making any jokes here or anything, but statements like these makes me question your mental health.
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9/11
Aug 19, 2021 8:26:39 GMT -5
Post by Beady’s Here Now on Aug 19, 2021 8:26:39 GMT -5
Biden must (and will) resign.——— I’m not playing partisan games here. And I’m not getting into a fight on this point. It’s a blanket statement - you can ignore it, or do as you please with it. I'm not making any jokes here or anything, but statements like these makes me question your mental health. You have zero grasp on history. You have zero grasp on what is actually going on. You have zero grasp on the utter humiliation of this defeat. You have zero grasp on the humanitarian crisis. You have zero grasp on how exceedingly badly this is being received. You have zero grasp on the dire world wide consequences and ramifications (geopolitical) of all of this. You have zero grasp that the United States is currently and literally leaderless. You have zero grasp on the extent Biden has shown himself to derelict his duty over the last week. You have zero grasp on how this will define Biden’s presidency, and a unconscionable stain forever on his already exceedingly poor record. You have zero grasp that you’re an idiot. Shame on you.
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9/11
Aug 19, 2021 10:30:33 GMT -5
Post by Beady’s Here Now on Aug 19, 2021 10:30:33 GMT -5
9/11/2001 changed and defined George W. Bush’s presidency.
Afghanistan 2021 changes and defines Joe Biden’s presidency.
In exactly twenty years, we have come full circle. Shocking.
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Post by funhouse on Aug 19, 2021 11:02:42 GMT -5
I'm not making any jokes here or anything, but statements like these makes me question your mental health. You have zero grasp on history. You have zero grasp on what is actually going on. You have zero grasp on the utter humiliation of this defeat. You have zero grasp on the humanitarian crisis. You have zero grasp on how exceedingly badly this is being received. You have zero grasp on the dire world wide consequences and ramifications (geopolitical) of all of this. You have zero grasp that the United States is currently and literally leaderless. You have zero grasp on the extent Biden has shown himself to derelict his duty over the last week. You have zero grasp on how this will define Biden’s presidency, and a unconscionable stain forever on his already exceedingly poor record. You have zero grasp that you’re an idiot. Shame on you. I wouldn't have written like I did if you only used the word "must". That's an opinion that I disagree with, but it's still just an opinion. However, when you write "will", thats embarking on Qanon-territory, making me question if you're actually Mike Lindell in disguise. And you would have shut your mouth if Trump did this, everyone here knows you would. Despite of all this(your at times very questionable politics), I do wish you well. I have understood through the years that you're in a tough spot, and I don't think you have ill intent based on your other engagement on this forum. Maybe I got a bit too serious there, but I really found the message I responded to especially troubling.
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9/11
Aug 19, 2021 11:23:14 GMT -5
Post by Beady’s Here Now on Aug 19, 2021 11:23:14 GMT -5
You have zero grasp on history. You have zero grasp on what is actually going on. You have zero grasp on the utter humiliation of this defeat. You have zero grasp on the humanitarian crisis. You have zero grasp on how exceedingly badly this is being received. You have zero grasp on the dire world wide consequences and ramifications (geopolitical) of all of this. You have zero grasp that the United States is currently and literally leaderless. You have zero grasp on the extent Biden has shown himself to derelict his duty over the last week. You have zero grasp on how this will define Biden’s presidency, and a unconscionable stain forever on his already exceedingly poor record. You have zero grasp that you’re an idiot. Shame on you. I wouldn't have written like I did if you only used the word "must". That's an opinion that I disagree with, but it's still just an opinion. However, when you write "will", thats embarking on Qanon-territory, making me question if you're actually Mike Lindell in disguise. And you would have shut your mouth if Trump did this, everyone here knows you would. Despite of all this(your at times very questionable politics), I do wish you well. I have understood through the years that you're in a tough spot, and I don't think you have ill intent based on your other engagement on this forum. Maybe I got a bit too serious there, but I really found the message I responded to especially troubling. Fair play, mate. I appreciate the follow up. I take back my ‘idiot’ remark - I got a little bit hot headed there.
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Post by RocketMan on Aug 22, 2021 9:30:52 GMT -5
I'm not making any jokes here or anything, but statements like these makes me question your mental health. You have zero grasp on history. You have zero grasp on what is actually going on. You have zero grasp on the utter humiliation of this defeat. You have zero grasp on the humanitarian crisis. You have zero grasp on how exceedingly badly this is being received. You have zero grasp on the dire world wide consequences and ramifications (geopolitical) of all of this. You have zero grasp that the United States is currently and literally leaderless. You have zero grasp on the extent Biden has shown himself to derelict his duty over the last week. You have zero grasp on how this will define Biden’s presidency, and a unconscionable stain forever on his already exceedingly poor record. You have zero grasp that you’re an idiot. Shame on you. The mental gymnastics you do when it comes to politics. its really fascinating. Sometimes I think “awww he might get there” and then you just fall back into your very narrow minded conservative partisanship.
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9/11
Aug 22, 2021 10:21:20 GMT -5
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Post by RocketMan on Aug 22, 2021 10:21:20 GMT -5
And now they’re selling it to evil communist (oligarchs really) empires. #capitalism. Poor humiliated Americans 🥲
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9/11
Aug 26, 2021 12:54:32 GMT -5
Post by Beady’s Here Now on Aug 26, 2021 12:54:32 GMT -5
You have zero grasp on history. You have zero grasp on what is actually going on. You have zero grasp on the utter humiliation of this defeat. You have zero grasp on the humanitarian crisis. You have zero grasp on how exceedingly badly this is being received. You have zero grasp on the dire world wide consequences and ramifications (geopolitical) of all of this. You have zero grasp that the United States is currently and literally leaderless. You have zero grasp on the extent Biden has shown himself to derelict his duty over the last week. You have zero grasp on how this will define Biden’s presidency, and a unconscionable stain forever on his already exceedingly poor record. You have zero grasp that you’re an idiot. Shame on you. The mental gymnastics you do when it comes to politics. its really fascinating. Sometimes I think “awww he might get there” and then you just fall back into your very narrow minded conservative partisanship. Ok.
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9/11
Aug 31, 2021 23:01:34 GMT -5
Post by Beady’s Here Now on Aug 31, 2021 23:01:34 GMT -5
We just unintentionally armed the Taliban with thousands of airplanes/aircrafts….
….the Taliban control Afghanistan in 2021….
….the Taliban are a terrorist organization…..
….who harbor Al-Qaeda…..
…..Al-Qaeda used airplanes on 9/11….
….by turning off the airplane transponders….
….on the airplanes Al-Qaeda hijacked from the US….
….after planning the attack under the harbor of the Taliban…..
….the Taliban which controlled Afghanistan in 2001….
Ummm — Am I missing something here? 🥴 #connectthosedots
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Post by RocketMan on Sept 2, 2021 5:33:42 GMT -5
We just unintentionally armed the Taliban with thousands of airplanes/aircrafts…. ….the Taliban control Afghanistan in 2021…. ….the Taliban are a terrorist organization….. ….who harbor Al-Qaeda….. …..Al-Qaeda used airplanes on 9/11…. ….by turning off the airplane transponders…. ….on the airplanes Al-Qaeda hijacked from the US…. ….after planning the attack under the harbor of the Taliban….. ….the Taliban which controlled Afghanistan in 2001…. Ummm — Am I missing something here? 🥴 #connectthosedotsIt sucks right? Normally you just sell weapons straight to Saudi Arabia and get some sweet money in return. Or you Arm people to fight Assad and accidentally create isis.
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9/11
Sept 2, 2021 15:45:55 GMT -5
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Post by globe on Sept 2, 2021 15:45:55 GMT -5
We just unintentionally armed the Taliban with thousands of airplanes/aircrafts…. ….the Taliban control Afghanistan in 2021…. ….the Taliban are a terrorist organization….. ….who harbor Al-Qaeda….. …..Al-Qaeda used airplanes on 9/11…. ….by turning off the airplane transponders…. ….on the airplanes Al-Qaeda hijacked from the US…. ….after planning the attack under the harbor of the Taliban….. ….the Taliban which controlled Afghanistan in 2001…. Ummm — Am I missing something here? 🥴 #connectthosedotsWe’ll you armed them in the 1980s so not much has changed eh.
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9/11
Sept 2, 2021 15:47:01 GMT -5
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Post by globe on Sept 2, 2021 15:47:01 GMT -5
Just watched “ 9/11: Inside the President’s War Room”, fascinating stuff.
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9/11
Sept 3, 2021 9:02:17 GMT -5
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Post by RocketMan on Sept 3, 2021 9:02:17 GMT -5
We just unintentionally armed the Taliban with thousands of airplanes/aircrafts…. ….the Taliban control Afghanistan in 2021…. ….the Taliban are a terrorist organization….. ….who harbor Al-Qaeda….. …..Al-Qaeda used airplanes on 9/11…. ….by turning off the airplane transponders…. ….on the airplanes Al-Qaeda hijacked from the US…. ….after planning the attack under the harbor of the Taliban….. ….the Taliban which controlled Afghanistan in 2001…. Ummm — Am I missing something here? 🥴 #connectthosedotsWe’ll you armed them in the 1980s so not much has changed eh. Armed by an average Cowboy-Actor. Just american things
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9/11
Sept 4, 2021 5:16:42 GMT -5
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Post by Elie De Beaufour on Sept 4, 2021 5:16:42 GMT -5
Who released the 5000, 75% are in charge? That's why the Sri Lankan went ape yesterday. He thought Arden a Trumpanzee
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