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Post by Mario on Jun 18, 2005 0:09:08 GMT -5
Hello, So thats where a lot of the news is today right? The US is there along with other countries. But as an AMERICAN CITIZEN, i am very disappointed with what the US is doing. They should not have gone to Iraq, North Korea, yes, but not Iraq. Now we are gonna fuck with Iran, this aint right. America is just messing around over there. And then on the news, you hear about these Islamic Terrorists. Well guess what? They dont represent Islam, they are nutS!!! But then wouldnt you be mad if someone walked into your house and started taking your valuable stuff, and told changed your liffe? I am not happy with what America is doing, and especially those troops who torture those prisoners, thats terrible! And the worst part, those soldiers were destroying copies of the Holy Quran. Thats messed up! That is a holy book, and deserved respect just like the Bible and Tora. Please, post your opinions on these issues. I would like to know what you have yo say about this! Thanks! hey man ..fuck that..were u happy when those islamic jihadist killed thousands on 9/11? its ok for arabs to take to the streets and celebrate AS THEY DID ON 9/11..AL JAZERRA A ARAB AGENCY SHOWED IT...ITS OK TO BURN OUR FLAG KILL OUR PEOPLE BUT WE RETALIATE AND WE ARE CONDEMED??? FUCK OFF..ITS A WAR I COULD CARE LESS ABOUT THE PRISONERS ..WHERE IS THE SYMPATHY FOR ALL THE INNOCENT WESTERNERS BEHEADED??? FUCK THE IRAQIS FUCK THE JIHAD, AND I HOPE WE NUKE THE MIDEAST..AND END THIS CRAP Look you dumb white boy, Jihadist isnt even a word, just some prejudice word you put together!!! I feel bad for the families who had to suffer during 9/11, and i have the upmost love and respect for them. God Bless Them. But i just hate some of the political decision we have made. What my problem is, Americans like you who are so angry, you fuse you hatred towards the norm target, which are considered the typical muslim/arab people. The fact is, Bin Laden is a fucker, hes not Afghan, and does not represent islam, noone of those terrorists do. But your blaming a race and religion for something a few people do! I could say that all priests are dirty child molesters, because some did, but i wont, because i have respect for the majority of them. Dont blame all for a crime a few committed! And u, say you're city burned, one building burned down. You know when the US bombed Iraq and Afghanistan from the comfort of their homes, more people died. And you say arabs are trying to make a statement? Dude, most of those people just want the US OUT! There is more crime in California than there is in Iraq everyday. Thats stuff is normal, they are attacking our troops, we should bring them home, and save them for the real threat! Or this could be a chance to steal some oil from Iraq who is the third country with the best oil supply. Look people, i just wanna say REspect all people, most are innocent Respect Religion Islam tolerates youre religion, dont let a group of idiots make you be closeminded and hate everything about it in general. And if you do some research, youll see that the US POws are treated much better than the prisoners that the us capture. Yes many of them end up dying, but i would rather die than be tortured and humiliated, wouldnt you? Look my friends, this is just my opinion, please post what you think. I am not anti-American, but we must look at it from all sides, then make our judgement. I would still love to hear what you all think. In the words of the great John Lennon: "If everyone demanded peace instead of another television set, then there'd be peace. " Thank You
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Post by macleod on Jun 18, 2005 6:32:35 GMT -5
hey man ..fuck that..were u happy when those islamic jihadist killed thousands on 9/11? its ok for arabs to take to the streets and celebrate AS THEY DID ON 9/11..AL JAZERRA A ARAB AGENCY SHOWED IT...ITS OK TO BURN OUR FLAG KILL OUR PEOPLE BUT WE RETALIATE AND WE ARE CONDEMED??? FUCK OFF..ITS A WAR I COULD CARE LESS ABOUT THE PRISONERS ..WHERE IS THE SYMPATHY FOR ALL THE INNOCENT WESTERNERS BEHEADED??? FUCK THE IRAQIS FUCK THE JIHAD, AND I HOPE WE NUKE THE MIDEAST..AND END THIS CRAP Look you dumb white boy, Jihadist isnt even a word, just some prejudice word you put together!!! I feel bad for the families who had to suffer during 9/11, and i have the upmost love and respect for them. God Bless Them. But i just hate some of the political decision we have made. What my problem is, Americans like you who are so angry, you fuse you hatred towards the norm target, which are considered the typical muslim/arab people. The fact is, Bin Laden is a fucker, hes not Afghan, and does not represent islam, noone of those terrorists do. But your blaming a race and religion for something a few people do! I could say that all priests are dirty child molesters, because some did, but i wont, because i have respect for the majority of them. Dont blame all for a crime a few committed! And u, say you're city burned, one building burned down. You know when the US bombed Iraq and Afghanistan from the comfort of their homes, more people died. And you say arabs are trying to make a statement? Dude, most of those people just want the US OUT! There is more crime in California than there is in Iraq everyday. Thats stuff is normal, they are attacking our troops, we should bring them home, and save them for the real threat! Or this could be a chance to steal some oil from Iraq who is the third country with the best oil supply. Look people, i just wanna say REspect all people, most are innocent Respect Religion Islam tolerates youre religion, dont let a group of idiots make you be closeminded and hate everything about it in general. And if you do some research, youll see that the US POws are treated much better than the prisoners that the us capture. Yes many of them end up dying, but i would rather die than be tortured and humiliated, wouldnt you? Look my friends, this is just my opinion, please post what you think. I am not anti-American, but we must look at it from all sides, then make our judgement. I would still love to hear what you all think. In the words of the great John Lennon: "If everyone demanded peace instead of another television set, then there'd be peace. " Thank You webby please read this
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Post by lionsden® on Jun 18, 2005 6:41:34 GMT -5
hey man ..fuck that..were u happy when those islamic jihadist killed thousands on 9/11? its ok for arabs to take to the streets and celebrate AS THEY DID ON 9/11..AL JAZERRA A ARAB AGENCY SHOWED IT...ITS OK TO BURN OUR FLAG KILL OUR PEOPLE BUT WE RETALIATE AND WE ARE CONDEMED??? FUCK OFF..ITS A WAR I COULD CARE LESS ABOUT THE PRISONERS ..WHERE IS THE SYMPATHY FOR ALL THE INNOCENT WESTERNERS BEHEADED??? FUCK THE IRAQIS FUCK THE JIHAD, AND I HOPE WE NUKE THE MIDEAST..AND END THIS CRAP Look you dumb white boy, Jihadist isnt even a word, just some prejudice word you put together!!! I feel bad for the families who had to suffer during 9/11, and i have the upmost love and respect for them. God Bless Them. But i just hate some of the political decision we have made. What my problem is, Americans like you who are so angry, you fuse you hatred towards the norm target, which are considered the typical muslim/arab people. The fact is, Bin Laden is a fucker, hes not Afghan, and does not represent islam, noone of those terrorists do. But your blaming a race and religion for something a few people do! I could say that all priests are dirty child molesters, because some did, but i wont, because i have respect for the majority of them. Dont blame all for a crime a few committed! And u, say you're city burned, one building burned down. You know when the US bombed Iraq and Afghanistan from the comfort of their homes, more people died. And you say arabs are trying to make a statement? Dude, most of those people just want the US OUT! There is more crime in California than there is in Iraq everyday. Thats stuff is normal, they are attacking our troops, we should bring them home, and save them for the real threat! Or this could be a chance to steal some oil from Iraq who is the third country with the best oil supply. Look people, i just wanna say REspect all people, most are innocent Respect Religion Islam tolerates youre religion, dont let a group of idiots make you be closeminded and hate everything about it in general. And if you do some research, youll see that the US POws are treated much better than the prisoners that the us capture. Yes many of them end up dying, but i would rather die than be tortured and humiliated, wouldnt you? Look my friends, this is just my opinion, please post what you think. I am not anti-American, but we must look at it from all sides, then make our judgement. I would still love to hear what you all think. In the words of the great John Lennon: "If everyone demanded peace instead of another television set, then there'd be peace. " Thank You The last I checked Afghanistan is doing quite well, very well in fact after the Taliban were booted out. And also it seems to me that muslims in Iraq are targeting other muslims instead of our troops. And I really can't recall the last time I heard of someone driving a car full of explosives into a restaurant in California. Just my 2 cents
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Post by macleod on Jun 18, 2005 6:46:07 GMT -5
hey man ..fuck that..were u happy when those islamic jihadist killed thousands on 9/11? its ok for arabs to take to the streets and celebrate AS THEY DID ON 9/11..AL JAZERRA A ARAB AGENCY SHOWED IT...ITS OK TO BURN OUR FLAG KILL OUR PEOPLE BUT WE RETALIATE AND WE ARE CONDEMED??? FUCK OFF..ITS A WAR I COULD CARE LESS ABOUT THE PRISONERS ..WHERE IS THE SYMPATHY FOR ALL THE INNOCENT WESTERNERS BEHEADED??? FUCK THE IRAQIS FUCK THE JIHAD, AND I HOPE WE NUKE THE MIDEAST..AND END THIS CRAP Look you dumb white boy WEBBY.IN YOUR PM TO ME U SPOKE OF LOCKING OR BANNING AND MENTIONED RACIAL SLURS WELL LOOK THERE.IF THAT IS NOT GROUNDS FOR BANNING OR LOCKING HIS CRAP WHAT IS? IMAGINE IF I SAID SOMETHING DEROGATORY, I WOULD BE A RACIST AND BANNED..IS IT OK HERE TO SLUR WHITE PEOPLE MAN?
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Post by webm@ster on Jun 18, 2005 8:30:03 GMT -5
WEBBY.IN YOUR PM TO ME U SPOKE OF LOCKING OR BANNING AND MENTIONED RACIAL SLURS WELL LOOK THERE.IF THAT IS NOT GROUNDS FOR BANNING OR LOCKING HIS CRAP WHAT IS? IMAGINE IF I SAID SOMETHING DEROGATORY, I WOULD BE A RACIST AND BANNED..IS IT OK HERE TO SLUR WHITE PEOPLE MAN? I will be in touch with the members involved. peace.
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Post by Dominic on Jun 18, 2005 9:07:01 GMT -5
I'm sorry, but believers of the cause or not, members of the armed forces have no choice as to where they are drafted. I'm ex Royal Navy, and believe me you go where you are sent, no arguing, that's it you go. Trust me I know having served on a ship that was deployed to the Northern Arabian Gulf and to the region around Kosovo, both were during times of conflict. Do you really think it matters whether you believe in the cause or not? Granted, I'm sure a vast majority of American troops had personal feelings about being in Afghanistan because of the unfortunate events of 9/11, but hte bottom line is, if there's a job to be done you have got to do it. It's the members of the armed forces, whatever country they serve, that have to deal with the consequences of politicians decisions. It's easy for Bush and Blair to send forces in to conflicts, but they get to sleep in their own beds at night. The troops, sailors and airmen don't get a choice, they all know that when they join up there is a distinct possibility that in present times, they may be required to serve in conflict. my mum was a teacher in the army and i've been in camps when everyone was drafted out and how devastating it was to the families. there is a choice you can make though, get a fuckin education and dont fuckin join the army. well said
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Post by Dominic on Jun 19, 2005 5:03:31 GMT -5
hey man ..fuck that..were u happy when those islamic jihadist killed thousands on 9/11? its ok for arabs to take to the streets and celebrate AS THEY DID ON 9/11..AL JAZERRA A ARAB AGENCY SHOWED IT...ITS OK TO BURN OUR FLAG KILL OUR PEOPLE BUT WE RETALIATE AND WE ARE CONDEMED??? FUCK OFF..ITS A WAR I COULD CARE LESS ABOUT THE PRISONERS ..WHERE IS THE SYMPATHY FOR ALL THE INNOCENT WESTERNERS BEHEADED??? FUCK THE IRAQIS FUCK THE JIHAD, AND I HOPE WE NUKE THE MIDEAST..AND END THIS CRAP The fact is, Bin Laden is a fucker, hes not Afghan, and does not represent islam, noone of those terrorists do. But your blaming a race and religion for something a few people do! I could say that all priests are dirty child molesters, because some did, but i wont, because i have respect for the majority of them. Dont blame all for a crime a few committed! very well said to be fair
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Post by nyr401994 on Jun 19, 2005 15:51:11 GMT -5
I agree with the US going into Afghanistan. But I disagree with the war in Iraq, there's no point in being there, Saddam had nothing to do with 9/11. Bush is just putting the lives of those who want to fight for their country if there is an immediate threat in jeopardy. The fact is Iraq was never a threat and was as dangerous as an old lady crossing the street. EXACTLY! saddam was not a threat to americans except for one thing: remember around 1998, the u.s. was on the brink of war because he was hiding weapons. this was when clinton was president. but he had nothing to do with 9/11
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Post by nyr401994 on Jun 19, 2005 16:14:34 GMT -5
but how about this, being the self-proclaimed bono of this forum: why don't we all just get along? our boys are on tour! anyways, there's nothing we can do to change what's going on in the world, whether we like it or not.
just my two cents
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Post by Dominic on Jun 19, 2005 16:17:28 GMT -5
no probs bono lol
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Post by feckarse on Jun 19, 2005 16:34:05 GMT -5
but how about this, being the self-proclaimed bono of this forum: why don't we all just get along? our boys are on tour! anyways, there's nothing we can do to change what's going on in the world, whether we like it or not. just my two cents "Ut humiliter opinor" doesn't have a chance with that attitude! We must solve the world's problems here in the forum!! Years from now, when peace has broken out, kids in school will learn of the wise NYR401994, the noble Dominic, the humble Feckarse, the perceptive Lionsden...etc. who in an oasis fan forum, came up with a Unified Global Theorem for Prosperity & Peace, that got developed & thus the world was saved of famine, war & poverty! The angels will sing from upon high, praising the might of Webby who foresaw the nature of these virtuous initiatives! The Gods will look down from the heavens and smile, their creation is now complete, and the Lord will turn to his brothers Budda & Allah and proclaim "It is now only am I happy. For Ut Humiliter Opinor has saved the world" right, that's definitely enough coffee for me for the day
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Post by nyr401994 on Jun 19, 2005 16:38:38 GMT -5
right, that's definitely enough coffee for me for the day you sure that's just coffee, mate?
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Post by daysleeper on Jun 19, 2005 18:40:00 GMT -5
but how about this, being the self-proclaimed bono of this forum: why don't we all just get along? our boys are on tour! anyways, there's nothing we can do to change what's going on in the world, whether we like it or not. just my two cents "Ut humiliter opinor" doesn't have a chance with that attitude! We must solve the world's problems here in the forum!! Years from now, when peace has broken out, kids in school will learn of the wise NYR401994, the noble Dominic, the humble Feckarse, the perceptive Lionsden...etc. who in an oasis fan forum, came up with a Unified Global Theorem for Prosperity & Peace, that got developed & thus the world was saved of famine, war & poverty! The angels will sing from upon high, praising the might of Webby who foresaw the nature of these virtuous initiatives! The Gods will look down from the heavens and smile, their creation is now complete, and the Lord will turn to his brothers Budda & Allah and proclaim "It is now only am I happy. For Ut Humiliter Opinor has saved the world" lol nice one! But i think there is a very serious point here - we CAN do something to change whats going on in the world. we are not powerless. it is so fucking simple a concept but so many overlook it - we are all just people. People change the world - who is to say that someone sitting at their computer reading these posts wont go on to become a person with the power to change things? Bono is the perfect example - he is a musician. he isnt a great thinker, an original thinker or even in many peoples eyes - a smart thinker. (or a great musician! lol) But he has used his talents in the best way he could to engineer a position as one of the most powerful people in the world. why cant one of us do that? Tony Blair grew up in a small town a few miles from me. he didnt have rich parents or a powerful family. but now he is one of the most powerful men in the world. Why cant i become like him? The only thing stopping any one of us from making a difference is apathy.
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Post by Dominic on Jun 19, 2005 18:48:54 GMT -5
"Ut humiliter opinor" doesn't have a chance with that attitude! We must solve the world's problems here in the forum!! Years from now, when peace has broken out, kids in school will learn of the wise NYR401994, the noble Dominic, the humble Feckarse, the perceptive Lionsden...etc. who in an oasis fan forum, came up with a Unified Global Theorem for Prosperity & Peace, that got developed & thus the world was saved of famine, war & poverty! The angels will sing from upon high, praising the might of Webby who foresaw the nature of these virtuous initiatives! The Gods will look down from the heavens and smile, their creation is now complete, and the Lord will turn to his brothers Budda & Allah and proclaim "It is now only am I happy. For Ut Humiliter Opinor has saved the world" lol nice one! But i think there is a very serious point here - we CAN do something to change whats going on in the world. we are not powerless. it is so fucking simple a concept but so many overlook it - we are all just people. People change the world - who is to say that someone sitting at their computer reading these posts wont go on to become a person with the power to change things? Bono is the perfect example - he is a musician. he isnt a great thinker, an original thinker or even in many peoples eyes - a smart thinker. (or a great musician! lol) But he has used his talents in the best way he could to engineer a position as one of the most powerful people in the world. why cant one of us do that? Tony Blair grew up in a small town a few miles from me. he didnt have rich parents or a powerful family. but now he is one of the most powerful men in the world. Why cant i become like him? The only thing stopping any one of us from making a difference is apathy. since what happened to bono when he was 14 i think he has some condition where he has to be constantly doin somethin, thats why he is so shifty and odd in interveiws, but yea daysleepers spot on, i wish more people shared his veiw
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Post by gowerlee on Jun 21, 2005 17:09:00 GMT -5
there is a choice you can make though, get a fuckin education and dont fuckin join the army. Perhaps some people want a career in the armed forces! I was just saying that you don't get to choose where you are drafted to or sent on deployment. Oh, and by the way, my education must have been good enough, 'coz when I was in the Royal Navy I was recommended for officer training and passed aptitude test's to be a helicopter pilot.
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Post by Rain on Jun 22, 2005 1:58:06 GMT -5
End of Summer or middle next year the war of Iraq be over, but Peace in the Middle East will prevail by 2050.
But I disagree with Iraq thing overall
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