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Post by Sadie on Feb 10, 2024 10:27:15 GMT -5
Biden is clearly unfit for the role. It's concerning and I fear it could be too late for another candidate to emerge. I feel so bad for Americans, both choices in this election are dogshit
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Post by settingson on Feb 11, 2024 4:22:34 GMT -5
I think the Democrats strategy is pretty clear now:
We must get Biden to the election, otherwise we get obliterated. Once he's elected, Joe will have an "unexpected and totally unforeseen incident" and the VP will take over.. Then we will have 4 years to find a candidate.
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Post by The-Ghost-Dancer on Feb 11, 2024 9:48:05 GMT -5
Beady’s Here Now ,once Just once please please put your money where you mouth is and explain this shit and just what it is you admire about this lunatic
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Post by jeffrey on Feb 11, 2024 11:43:02 GMT -5
Trump is an immature, egomaniac, that was incapable of presenting himself as “presidential.” I’m not in favor of the way the US political system functions (two parties that accept corporate bribes), but I actually voted for Biden in 2020 because I was sick of the division and somewhat believed the narrative about the Trump presidency being the worst in history.
Sadly, I’ve gone from not in favor, to completely against the political system in these past three years. I’m genuinely ashamed of myself for not researching his past and voting for this intellectually-incompetent, pandering, pussy. I won’t vote for Trump, but the country was better off when he was in office than we are now.
What I’ve learned since 2020 is that I can’t trust any legacy media to provide unbiased, truthful information, on either side. They’re in the business of selling cult-like ideologies and my beliefs aren’t tied to what one side says about the other; they’re both completely full of shit.
Healthcare is broken; immigration is broken; justice system is broken; education system is broken; social systems are broken; infrastructure is broken; etc. Trump didn’t do this. He’s not the reason our country is in shambles, but they want you to believe that he’s solely responsible so they have a scapegoat.
We need to collectively wake up and take a stand for common people (like the European farmers have done) because trusting in politicians to help (either side) is exactly why we’re in the shitter right now.
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Post by The Invisible Sun on Feb 11, 2024 13:28:27 GMT -5
We have to stop electing corporate democrats and republicans. We are a late stage capitalist system entering (or perhaps already arrived at) monopoly capitalism. I'm honestly not sure we can recover, but we surely won't if we continue to play into the system and accept bad candidates.
We need a new voting system and a no confidence 'none of these' option on every ballot.
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Post by The Crimson Rambler on Feb 11, 2024 17:36:05 GMT -5
Once again isn't this election as simple as (begrudgingly or not) voting for the individual who isn't actively lying about almost everything and who isn't an apologist for the very worst of society, both within the US and outside of it?* Sure, it might be a shit situation to be in voting to stick with the status quo but isn't that infinitely better than the alternative? It would be amazing to have some real positive change to how the system works but when a real world impacting danger is in with a genuine chance of succeeding unfortunately that'll have to happen some other time.
*Not to mention all the other crazy shit.
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Post by theyknowwhatimean on Feb 11, 2024 19:58:12 GMT -5
Biden is clearly unfit for the role. It's concerning and I fear it could be too late for another candidate to emerge. If any of his family and/or friends have encouraged him to run again, they should be utterly ashamed of themselves. He's fucking 82 this year, and you can probably add ten years onto that for his mental age. He should be able to enjoy some peace and quiet in his twilight years, put his feet up and take it easy.
This is one of the clearest examples I can think of of America's toxic work habits. It's grotesque really, the sight of this enfeebled, confused old guy asking his countrymen and women to keep him in office for another four years because he can't bear the thought of just stopping and being still. He must keep carrying all of this responsibility on his shoulders, like some act of sado-masichism.
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Post by The Invisible Sun on Feb 12, 2024 1:58:33 GMT -5
Once again isn't this election as simple as (begrudgingly or not) voting for the individual who isn't actively lying about almost everything and who isn't an apologist for the very worst of society, both within the US and outside of it?* Sure, it might be a shit situation to be in voting to stick with the status quo but isn't that infinitely better than the alternative? It would be amazing to have some real positive change to how the system works but when a real world impacting danger is in with a genuine chance of succeeding unfortunately that'll have to happen some other time. *Not to mention all the other crazy shit.I hear this every election. Every election is the most important election. Just keep kicking the ball down the field, for it never to reach its goal. Meanwhile, the country continues to deteriorate. Democracy is dying a gradual death and fascism inches closer than ever before.
I don't know how else to say this, but bluntly ... This "tactic" that has been going on for DECADES, ain't working. It is not achieving anything. It's allowing politicians to avoid working, because they know you'll have no other options and won't ever gather the courage to actually challenge or threaten their power.
The last time this country prospered, was during and following FDR's America, where we had an influx of social programs that actually addressed the needs of the working class and paved the way for boomers to horde the majority of the nations wealth today (52%). How funny that the same generation that benefited the most from 'socialism', is also largely the same demographic who staunchly hate it and want to cut social programs and prevent the creation of new aid for the working class and poor.
If you genuinely believe America is in trouble if Trump is elected, then Biden ain't the horse to back. He's unpopular with his own party for a number of issues, most recently his failure to prevent and end a genocide in Gaza and he's mentally unfit for the role of President, especially looking 4 years ahead of time.
If Joe Biden is the best option that democrats can put forth for the most important job in the nation, then I'm afraid we've already lost and the party is already too weak to salvage.
If we must go with Joe Biden, then the best path forward to victory is for Biden to select a strong Vice President and promise to step down after re-election (making the VP assume the Presidency). Who that would be, I don't know. But it can't be Kamala.
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Post by andymorris on Feb 12, 2024 3:00:23 GMT -5
Weird times really. Troubled times often produce strong leaders, yet this time, it doesn't. Every Country on earth is facing that, not just the US.
Why not Blinken ? What do you US boys and girls think of him ? Too soft for the US of A ?
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Post by The Crimson Rambler on Feb 12, 2024 5:19:30 GMT -5
Once again isn't this election as simple as (begrudgingly or not) voting for the individual who isn't actively lying about almost everything and who isn't an apologist for the very worst of society, both within the US and outside of it?* Sure, it might be a shit situation to be in voting to stick with the status quo but isn't that infinitely better than the alternative? It would be amazing to have some real positive change to how the system works but when a real world impacting danger is in with a genuine chance of succeeding unfortunately that'll have to happen some other time. *Not to mention all the other crazy shit.I hear this every election. Every election is the most important election. Just keep kicking the ball down the field, for it never to reach its goal. Meanwhile, the country continues to deteriorate. Democracy is dying a gradual death and fascism inches closer than ever before.
I don't know how else to say this, but bluntly ... This "tactic" that has been going on for DECADES, ain't working. It is not achieving anything. It's allowing politicians to avoid working, because they know you'll have no other options and won't ever gather the courage to actually challenge or threaten their power.
The last time this country prospered, was during and following FDR's America, where we had an influx of social programs that actually addressed the needs of the working class and paved the way for boomers to horde the majority of the nations wealth today (52%). How funny that the same generation that benefited the most from 'socialism', is also largely the same demographic who staunchly hate it and want to cut social programs and prevent the creation of new aid for the working class and poor.
If you genuinely believe America is in trouble if Trump is elected, then Biden ain't the horse to back. He's unpopular with his own party for a number of issues, most recently his failure to prevent and end a genocide in Gaza and he's mentally unfit for the role of President, especially looking 4 years ahead of time.
If Joe Biden is the best option that democrats can put forth for the most important job in the nation, then I'm afraid we've already lost and the party is already too weak to salvage.
If we must go with Joe Biden, then the best path forward to victory is for Biden to select a strong Vice President and promise to step down after re-election (making the VP assume the Presidency). Who that would be, I don't know. But it can't be Kamala.
You're right they do say this all the time, which is why each time voters must figure out themselves whether there's really any truth to it. If you believe now's the time to risk that then I don't know what to say to you, especially if you're concerned about fascism. I agree that it's frustrating that the Democrats have failed to find a successor to Biden. His age was always going to be an unavoidable obvious issue. That said I don't at all believe all hope is lost like you do. To say well if you don't like Trump don't vote Biden either makes no sense to me whatsoever.
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Post by The-Ghost-Dancer on Feb 16, 2024 16:29:15 GMT -5
ooohhhh this has gotta sting seeing as all the mango moron tangerine toddler cares about is money, hahaha
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Post by The-Ghost-Dancer on Feb 16, 2024 16:33:44 GMT -5
another report on the fraud trail
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Feb 16, 2024 16:37:27 GMT -5
ooohhhh this has gotta sting seeing as all the mango moron tangerine toddler cares about is money, hahaha He donated his full $400,000/yr salary when he was president….
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Post by The-Ghost-Dancer on Feb 16, 2024 17:21:45 GMT -5
ooohhhh this has gotta sting seeing as all the mango moron tangerine toddler cares about is money, hahaha He donated his full $400,000/yr salary when he was president…. mate dont take this as a direct dig at you but you can fuck clean all the way off with that shit, trump made more money as potus spending time golfing on his own resorts and charging secret service money on the room they were staying in his properties , not to mention the 2B ivanka and jared made from the saudis, the mans a fuckin grifter plain and simple, dont believe me read this
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Post by The-Ghost-Dancer on Feb 16, 2024 17:24:10 GMT -5
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Post by The-Ghost-Dancer on Feb 16, 2024 17:25:43 GMT -5
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Post by The-Ghost-Dancer on Feb 16, 2024 17:37:43 GMT -5
Beady’s Here Now also mate its not to late to reclaim and stand tall and proud on your british heritage, i know you must have dual citizenship being a resident of the USA but you're a brit 1st and foremost and 99% of us brits think this guy is a clown do the right thing and denounce him and maybe in the process you might gain some respect from all the anti trumpers on this forum when you finally wake up to the fact he's a fuckin idiot, a dangerous idiot aswell, what kind of guy promotes and encourages the idea that russia can invade NATO countries and do what they want if they havent chipped in their fare share of GDP to NATO resources. If he got elected again he WOULD start WW3 just so it could be his legacy and he would always be remembered for it, cos lets face it he wont be remembered for anything he done while in office because he done fuck all of substance apart from tax cuts for million / billionaires. And he's a rapist who fantasizes about humping his own daughter
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Post by The-Ghost-Dancer on Feb 16, 2024 18:39:09 GMT -5
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Post by jeffrey on Feb 17, 2024 7:37:08 GMT -5
Beady’s Here Now also mate its not to late to reclaim and stand tall and proud on your british heritage, i know you must have dual citizenship being a resident of the USA but you're a brit 1st and foremost and 99% of us brits think this guy is a clown do the right thing and denounce him and maybe in the process you might gain some respect from all the anti trumpers on this forum when you finally wake up to the fact he's a fuckin idiot, a dangerous idiot aswell, what kind of guy promotes and encourages the idea that russia can invade NATO countries and do what they want if they havent chipped in their fare share of GDP to NATO resources. If he got elected again he WOULD start WW3 just so it could be his legacy and he would always be remembered for it, cos lets face it he wont be remembered for anything he done while in office because he done fuck all of substance apart from tax cuts for million / billionaires. And he's a rapist who fantasizes about humping his own daughter I genuinely wonder if you’re a bot… All you're doing is regurgitating hyperbolic nonsense that has been endlessly repeated since 2016. I actually dislike the fucker, but you’re obviously stuck in a hidebound mindset. Unless something drastic happens and the candidates change, he is going to absolutely crush Biden in the election. Would you believe that’s because people have four years of evidence proving things got significantly worse with Biden in office? I can tell you, unequivocally, that this country is in a much worse place now than anytime between 2016-2020. Your endless declarations stated as if they’re fact (he’s an idiot, he will start WW3, he did done nothing of substance) are just tiresome tropes and quite frankly, why he’s likely to win again. Do you really believe someone as successful as Trump is an idiot? Do you really think that the only President not to get involved in wars is going to start WW3? Is it feasible to believe he did absolutely nothing of substance while in office? That’s definitely the picture that the majority of media paints, but it doesn’t hold up to scrutiny. Again, I don’t like him. I didn’t/won’t vote for him; however, he didn’t cause all of the broken infrastructure in the country. You’re a Brit. You don’t live here. You post videos from proudly biased accounts, yet you try to bash and shame someone with real, first-hand knowledge of their community/country for their beliefs? That’s textbook narcissism/intolerance. You can’t learn and definitely can’t understand different opinions if you wholeheartedly subscribe to one viewpoint.
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Post by globe on Feb 17, 2024 7:53:24 GMT -5
Beady’s Here Now also mate its not to late to reclaim and stand tall and proud on your british heritage, i know you must have dual citizenship being a resident of the USA but you're a brit 1st and foremost and 99% of us brits think this guy is a clown do the right thing and denounce him and maybe in the process you might gain some respect from all the anti trumpers on this forum when you finally wake up to the fact he's a fuckin idiot, a dangerous idiot aswell, what kind of guy promotes and encourages the idea that russia can invade NATO countries and do what they want if they havent chipped in their fare share of GDP to NATO resources. If he got elected again he WOULD start WW3 just so it could be his legacy and he would always be remembered for it, cos lets face it he wont be remembered for anything he done while in office because he done fuck all of substance apart from tax cuts for million / billionaires. And he's a rapist who fantasizes about humping his own daughter I genuinely wonder if you’re a bot… All you're doing is regurgitating hyperbolic nonsense that has been endlessly repeated since 2016. I actually dislike the fucker, but you’re obviously stuck in a hidebound mindset. Unless something drastic happens and the candidates change, he is going to absolutely crush Biden in the election. Would you believe that’s because people have four years of evidence proving things got significantly worse with Biden in office? I can tell you, unequivocally, that this country is in a much worse place now than anytime between 2016-2020. Your endless declarations stated as if they’re fact (he’s an idiot, he will start WW3, he did done nothing of substance) are just tiresome tropes and quite frankly, why he’s likely to win again. Do you really believe someone as successful as Trump is an idiot? Do you really think that the only President not to get involved in wars is going to start WW3? Is it feasible to believe he did absolutely nothing of substance while in office? That’s definitely the picture that the majority of media paints, but it doesn’t hold up to scrutiny. Again, I don’t like him. I didn’t/won’t vote for him; however, he didn’t cause all of the broken infrastructure in the country. You’re a Brit. You don’t live here. You post videos from proudly biased accounts, yet you try to bash and shame someone with real, first-hand knowledge of their community/country for their beliefs? That’s textbook narcissism/intolerance. You can’t learn and definitely can’t understand different opinions if you wholeheartedly subscribe to one viewpoint. List the things that are worse since Biden was President in comparison to the same things 2016-2020. Trump has broken US politics, he has broken the Republican Party - a party that was once full of clever, intelligent people, now fronted by a bunch of absolute fucking morons.
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Post by jeffrey on Feb 17, 2024 10:15:46 GMT -5
-Economy: significantly higher interest rates; higher inflation; young people can’t afford to buy homes and rent/mortgages are roughly 40% of people’s income
-Crime rate: higher overall; highest gun violence ever; highest suicide rates in 80+ years
-Immigration is FAR worse
-Wars: funding a war that everyone knows Ukraine cannot win (doing so because we organized a coup ten years ago that fucked the region up); funding a genocide; started our own bombing campaign
And by the way, I don’t care about the how he supposedly fucked up a political party. Both parties are a function of a system that not only allows corruption, but flaunts it. Neither side is better than the other; they both take corporate bribes and protect the interests of the ones that bankroll them.
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Post by andymorris on Feb 17, 2024 10:32:38 GMT -5
Funding Ukraine is not funding Ukraine its funding Society as you know it. Its funding your little comfort.
Stop funding and its Europe and then USA. Don't think you are safe because there's two oceans around you.
Baffling how people think country (or state, or town) and not planet.
USA once again has the world's faith in hands, so dont fuck it up please.
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Post by globe on Feb 17, 2024 10:38:26 GMT -5
-Economy: significantly higher interest rates; higher inflation; young people can’t afford to buy homes and rent/mortgages are roughly 40% of people’s income -Crime rate: higher overall; highest gun violence ever; highest suicide rates in 80+ years -Immigration is FAR worse -Wars: funding a war that everyone knows Ukraine cannot win (doing so because we organized a coup ten years ago that fucked the region up); funding a genocide; started our own bombing campaign And by the way, I don’t care about the how he supposedly fucked up a political party. Both parties are a function of a system that not only allows corruption, but flaunts it. Neither side is better than the other; they both take corporate bribes and protect the interests of the ones that bankroll them. That's funny because I read an article in The Economist last month that compared the Trump administration to the current Biden administration on 6 key areas and the Biden government is out-performing the previous Trump admin in 4 of them. Funny that you mention crime and guns though - how can any President do anything about gun crime when you are all so obsessed with guns and see it as a right to own one? Ukraine cannot win the war with Russia? Keep drinking the Trump cool aid mate, Russia thought they would be in Kiev in 3 days, 2 years on and the whole thing is a stalemate.
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Post by The-Ghost-Dancer on Feb 17, 2024 10:45:20 GMT -5
Beady’s Here Now also mate its not to late to reclaim and stand tall and proud on your british heritage, i know you must have dual citizenship being a resident of the USA but you're a brit 1st and foremost and 99% of us brits think this guy is a clown do the right thing and denounce him and maybe in the process you might gain some respect from all the anti trumpers on this forum when you finally wake up to the fact he's a fuckin idiot, a dangerous idiot aswell, what kind of guy promotes and encourages the idea that russia can invade NATO countries and do what they want if they havent chipped in their fare share of GDP to NATO resources. If he got elected again he WOULD start WW3 just so it could be his legacy and he would always be remembered for it, cos lets face it he wont be remembered for anything he done while in office because he done fuck all of substance apart from tax cuts for million / billionaires. And he's a rapist who fantasizes about humping his own daughter I genuinely wonder if you’re a bot… All you're doing is regurgitating hyperbolic nonsense that has been endlessly repeated since 2016. I actually dislike the fucker, but you’re obviously stuck in a hidebound mindset. Unless something drastic happens and the candidates change, he is going to absolutely crush Biden in the election. Would you believe that’s because people have four years of evidence proving things got significantly worse with Biden in office? I can tell you, unequivocally, that this country is in a much worse place now than anytime between 2016-2020. Your endless declarations stated as if they’re fact (he’s an idiot, he will start WW3, he did done nothing of substance) are just tiresome tropes and quite frankly, why he’s likely to win again. Do you really believe someone as successful as Trump is an idiot? Do you really think that the only President not to get involved in wars is going to start WW3? Is it feasible to believe he did absolutely nothing of substance while in office? That’s definitely the picture that the majority of media paints, but it doesn’t hold up to scrutiny. Again, I don’t like him. I didn’t/won’t vote for him; however, he didn’t cause all of the broken infrastructure in the country. You’re a Brit. You don’t live here. You post videos from proudly biased accounts, yet you try to bash and shame someone with real, first-hand knowledge of their community/country for their beliefs? That’s textbook narcissism/intolerance. You can’t learn and definitely can’t understand different opinions if you wholeheartedly subscribe to one viewpoint. Yep I'm a bot and by your comments you're a trumper arguing with a trumper is like playing chess with a pigeon, the pigeon kicks the pieces all over the board then struts about like it won
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Post by The-Ghost-Dancer on Feb 17, 2024 10:47:37 GMT -5
I genuinely wonder if you’re a bot… All you're doing is regurgitating hyperbolic nonsense that has been endlessly repeated since 2016. I actually dislike the fucker, but you’re obviously stuck in a hidebound mindset. Unless something drastic happens and the candidates change, he is going to absolutely crush Biden in the election. Would you believe that’s because people have four years of evidence proving things got significantly worse with Biden in office? I can tell you, unequivocally, that this country is in a much worse place now than anytime between 2016-2020. Your endless declarations stated as if they’re fact (he’s an idiot, he will start WW3, he did done nothing of substance) are just tiresome tropes and quite frankly, why he’s likely to win again. Do you really believe someone as successful as Trump is an idiot? Do you really think that the only President not to get involved in wars is going to start WW3? Is it feasible to believe he did absolutely nothing of substance while in office? That’s definitely the picture that the majority of media paints, but it doesn’t hold up to scrutiny. Again, I don’t like him. I didn’t/won’t vote for him; however, he didn’t cause all of the broken infrastructure in the country. You’re a Brit. You don’t live here. You post videos from proudly biased accounts, yet you try to bash and shame someone with real, first-hand knowledge of their community/country for their beliefs? That’s textbook narcissism/intolerance. You can’t learn and definitely can’t understand different opinions if you wholeheartedly subscribe to one viewpoint. Yep I'm a bot and arguing with a trumper is like playing chess with a pigeon, the pigeon kicks the pieces all over the board then struts about like it won
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