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Post by eva on Nov 14, 2022 5:26:22 GMT -5
frogerz merged your thread here Who gives a fuck. Let's not turn this thread into another endless debate. Find more important things to be annoyed about. ^this got buried between posts +1 on the "who gives a fuck" stance Noel's done it, Liam's done it. as well as many other artists
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Post by Diamond in The Dark on Nov 14, 2022 6:25:58 GMT -5
Its own immaturity. You can't leave a band for a joke. For example, my brother and I continually joke around in every possible way without any problems. But if you have the touchiness of a 5 year old, the fault is yours alone. Genuine question, has Liam Gallagher ever done anything wrong in your eyes? If it turned out he was behind 9/11, would you say, "Yeah, but he was struggling with Hashimotos at the time so it's understandable. And he'd done some good vocal takes the year before"? I love Liam more than Noel for many reasons, but obviously I'm not a fool. Want to know if I can get criticism of Liam too? Of course I have them! I do not appreciate his total disinterest for many years in not taking care of the health of his voice. I don't appreciate the fact that on many occasions he got drunk when he shouldn't have. I don't like his underestimation as an author and consequently some of his very beautiful songs which in my opinion should receive much more relevance. I don't like his monothematic way of dressing with all those parkas that now only seem to exist. I don't like the fact that he underestimates the importance of "Official Videos" which are very important to me in communicating the essence of a song and in enhancing the impact on the audience. I don't like his quarrelsome side and I hope this attitude has changed today. It is enough for you?
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Post by mimmihopps on Nov 14, 2022 7:25:15 GMT -5
Who gives a fuck. Let's not turn this thread into another endless debate. Find more important things to be annoyed about. ^this got buried between posts +1 on the "who gives a fuck" stance Noel's done it, Liam's done it. as well as many other artists
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Post by walterglass on Nov 14, 2022 7:28:07 GMT -5
If you’re suggesting hypocrisy then the answer to that is “like…yeah 🤷🏻♂️ “
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Post by mouth on Nov 14, 2022 7:50:18 GMT -5
Genuine question, has Liam Gallagher ever done anything wrong in your eyes? If it turned out he was behind 9/11, would you say, "Yeah, but he was struggling with Hashimotos at the time so it's understandable. And he'd done some good vocal takes the year before"? I love Liam more than Noel for many reasons, but obviously I'm not a fool. Want to know if I can get criticism of Liam too? Of course I have them! I do not appreciate his total disinterest for many years in not taking care of the health of his voice. I don't appreciate the fact that on many occasions he got drunk when he shouldn't have. I don't like his underestimation as an author and consequently some of his very beautiful songs which in my opinion should receive much more relevance. I don't like his monothematic way of dressing with all those parkas that now only seem to exist. I don't like the fact that he underestimates the importance of "Official Videos" which are very important to me in communicating the essence of a song and in enhancing the impact on the audience. I don't like his quarrelsome side and I hope this attitude has changed today. It is enough for you?
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Post by thespiderandthefly on Nov 14, 2022 10:00:51 GMT -5
Noel got paid to play a gig. Same as the gigs that you paid him for across the last 30 years. It's called the entertainment business. Business.
Get a life and get over it.
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Post by RocketMan on Nov 14, 2022 11:34:38 GMT -5
Noel got paid to play a gig. Same as the gigs that you paid him for across the last 30 years. It's called the entertainment business. Business. Get a life and get over it. How dare we criticize a man we dedicated a whole forum to for the things he’s doing. Just enjoy the music and ignore the rest!!
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Post by acquiesce19 on Nov 14, 2022 12:36:40 GMT -5
If I had the kind of money that would allow me to book Noel Gallagher on my private yacht, you sure as shit can believe I'd be doing that and I wouldn't think twice. If this lets him keep making music and living his life, who the heck cares?
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Post by noeloliam on Nov 14, 2022 12:43:37 GMT -5
Yeah, he played a few songs on the yacht cause he felt like it, he likes yachts, had a funny afternoon. Who you gonna call, the Martini Police ?
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Post by His Royal Noelness on Nov 14, 2022 17:15:05 GMT -5
If I had the kind of money that would allow me to book Noel Gallagher on my private yacht, you sure as shit can believe I'd be doing that and I wouldn't think twice. If this lets him keep making music and living his life, who the heck cares? Ah yes, poor impoverished Noel Gallagher struggling on the streets, can only keep making his unsaleable niche music and feeding his family through the divine benevolence of nostalgic billionaires. Such a bizarre distortion of reality! But fascinating.
p.s. I get that people aren’t open to talking about this here and won’t continue, but it’s about playing into a bad system, folks, one that has consequences for all of us. That’s the question and it’s one worthy of spirited debate on both sides, not unimportant, and far more interesting, if uncomfortable, than say, endless complaining about already set release dates.
But never mind all that. What it’s not about is whether Noel can make records without holding out his hands in the billionaire line … he really can people! At least give him the credit ...
Noel has a fairly sizeable band to pay and a record company to keep afloat. Shit like this pays those bills.
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Post by justaroundmidnight on Nov 14, 2022 17:36:43 GMT -5
Noel and Liam doing these lucrative private gigs suggests that any chance of an Oasis reunion hinges on the right amount money being offered - and the chances are someone will offer it.
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Post by Teotihuacan on Nov 14, 2022 18:20:15 GMT -5
I fear to watch yet I can't look away
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Post by Sadie on Nov 14, 2022 21:15:51 GMT -5
Noel and Liam doing these lucrative private gigs suggests that any chance of an Oasis reunion hinges on the right amount money being offered - and the chances are someone will offer it. Nah, no amount of money will ever reunite those two. Maybe they'll find a way to become at least civil with one another again one day but the band isn't getting back together for any sum of money
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Post by mouth on Nov 15, 2022 2:48:49 GMT -5
it's funny how people act as if it was the most normal thing in the world for both gallaghers to play these kind of private gigs to super rich assholes. "goOd FoR tHeM tO cASh In, mmMMmKay?"
no, it's not the most normal thing in the world. especially if you talk about fucking noel and liam gallagher and what they once stood for. many became fans because of their music, but what also played a big role for them to become as popular as they were, was how they portrayed themaselves and their attitudes towards certrain things in life and how rock'n'roll they were. "rock'n'roll is about music, music, music." well, not anymore as it seems.
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Post by oasisserbia on Nov 15, 2022 3:34:48 GMT -5
Noel and Liam doing these lucrative private gigs suggests that any chance of an Oasis reunion hinges on the right amount money being offered - and the chances are someone will offer it. Nah, no amount of money will ever reunite those two. Maybe they'll find a way to become at least civil with one another again one day but the band isn't getting back together for any sum of money Yes, it is. They showed that they have no principles and that they will do anything for money. We will have Oasis reunion when someone make the right offer.
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Post by quantum on Nov 15, 2022 4:12:52 GMT -5
Nah, no amount of money will ever reunite those two. Maybe they'll find a way to become at least civil with one another again one day but the band isn't getting back together for any sum of money Yes, it is. They showed that they have no principles and that they will do anything for money. We will have Oasis reunion when someone make the right offer. Sadly it'll be on a really big super yacht somewhere and we won't get to see any of it. But that's ok with lots on here, because Multi-Millionaire Noely "Forever The People" G has got a big band to pay, so needs to dance whenever some rich guy offers to throw him a coin.
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Post by oasisserbia on Nov 15, 2022 6:14:42 GMT -5
And that thing with having a band to pay 🤣 Do you understand that he is making more money this way than if he was in the band?
Same thing with his own studio.
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Post by acquiesce19 on Nov 15, 2022 9:08:13 GMT -5
Do we all realize that the music industry is a shambles compared to when Oasis formed? And that that obviously has an impact on modern-day financial decisions?
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Post by jezza2 on Nov 15, 2022 10:36:11 GMT -5
Whatever expectations you thought both Noel and Liam were "supposed" to have are gone. They've been gone for longer than you think.
I will echo many other comments on this thread: Who gives a fuck.
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Post by underneaththesky on Nov 15, 2022 12:02:04 GMT -5
mo' money, mo' power
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Post by Derrick on Nov 15, 2022 15:32:13 GMT -5
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Post by andymorris on Nov 17, 2022 2:58:22 GMT -5
Problem is not private gigs, they always existed. After all I am the Walrus was recorded at a sony seminar or something...
What's more worrying is that People are okay to pay ridiculous amount of money to go and see their favorite band in a field somewhere every summer. We are all part of the problem really. I wont go to Pulp or blur next summer for partly that reason. I refuse to pay 100 pounds or whatever to watch a band from 500 meters away which a shit sound and half of a crowd who is there just because they had nothing better to do. It's just ridiculous.
People who respect music should stop buying those tickets and maybe things will change. I'd much rather see those bands in real music venues, but i guess that wont ever happen anymore, because why bother ? Live music have become a night out, it's not about music anymore.
Tickermaster / livenation must be laughing their ass off really. Oh let's raise tickets 50 pounds and see what happens. They're still bying it ? Hahah c.unts.
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Post by justaroundmidnight on Nov 17, 2022 11:28:49 GMT -5
Problem is not private gigs, they always existed. After all I am the Walrus was recorded at a sony seminar or something... What's more worrying is that People are okay to pay ridiculous amount of money to go and see their favorite band in a field somewhere every summer. We are all part of the problem really. I wont go to Pulp or blur next summer for partly that reason. I refuse to pay 100 pounds or whatever to watch a band from 500 meters away which a shit sound and half of a crowd who is there just because they had nothing better to do. It's just ridiculous. People who respect music should stop buying those tickets and maybe things will change. I'd much rather see those bands in real music venues, but i guess that wont ever happen anymore, because why bother ? Live music have become a night out, it's not about music anymore. Tickermaster / livenation must be laughing their ass off really. Oh let's raise tickets 50 pounds and see what happens. They're still bying it ? Hahah c.unts. Same with Knebworth tickets. It's a seedy business.
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Post by morning_rain on Nov 17, 2022 12:13:42 GMT -5
These private parties for wealthy people are fascinating. There are talks about huge bands (U2, Coldplay, The Rolling Stones...) playing at secret birthday parties for wealthy saudi families and stuff, I wonder what if Oasis has ever reunited but we don't know about it?
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Post by andymorris on Nov 18, 2022 2:59:36 GMT -5
BTW, industry showcases and conferences like what happened at the Gleneagle Hotel are something entirely different ...
Yeah you're right, but it's still an assembly of non fan people in ties and stupid costumes. I guess we all have here a very angelic or pure vision about rock n roll or whatever, but it's always been an industry. Even with the beatles. Bowie, etc... it's corporations behind it, people here to make money. No artists signed to a record company is free, 100% free. It's always been a business, so that little NG gig is clearly nothing. He probably pocketed z ridiculous amount of money for 5 songs. who wouldn't do it ? As long as it's not a nazi or something, that's fine. What's important : are the records released the real vision of the artist and not a push from management. Are the gigs what's the artists wants to play. The rest dont really matter.
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